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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 20 2016 15:42 GMT
#481
On December 21 2016 00:24 Koshi wrote:
Could Kmatt and Exo be mafia partners? That little outburst at the start? Was it odd?


probably not
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 20 2016 15:49 GMT
#482
Okay finally back and reread. My post about not liking the shift to disinformation was more a reflection of my tunneling. At the time it didn't really seem like the disinformation scum case was that big but catching up with the thread I can definitely see him being either scum or really weak town. As for everyone else, I need to take some time to go through the filters. I'll be back with a better post shortly.
We CAN have nice things
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 15:49 GMT
#483
##unvote
##Vote Exo


meh we will see.
I had a good night of sleep.
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 20 2016 15:50 GMT
#484
And lol@ me and exo being scumbuddies. Don't get me wrong I'm all for bussing people but that would be a little extreme.
We CAN have nice things
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 15:51 GMT
#485
I can only see a bus or Slam being mafia with Exo. Because Exo took destructive battering from everywhere.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 20 2016 15:57 GMT
#486
It wouldn't be a championship game without bussing.
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 20 2016 15:57 GMT
#487
On December 21 2016 00:51 Koshi wrote:
I can only see a bus or Slam being mafia with Exo. Because Exo took destructive battering from everywhere.


That's my one doubt on Exo. If he's scum (which I'm pretty damn sure he is), then mafia team is giving up the ghost super easily. And seeing the posts from his other town game I could believe he's just playing consistently not-very-good and thus is doing scum team's work for them. Not enough doubt to make me not vote for him of course but if he somehow flips green I'm going to feel like a bigger idiot than otherwise. Time for filters.
We CAN have nice things
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 20 2016 16:05 GMT
#488
Seeing the posts from his other town game, consistently bad. Um, isn't the whole premise that it's wildly different from his town game?

Bae caught me slippin?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 16:11 GMT
#489
On December 21 2016 01:05 Holyflare wrote:
Seeing the posts from his other town game, consistently bad. Um, isn't the whole premise that it's wildly different from his town game?

Bae caught me slippin?

Thought it was pretty easy to see that he was trying to figure out the game.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 16:12 GMT
#490
and there is none of that this game
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 20 2016 16:14 GMT
#491
That's my point. Why is this even in his post?

And seeing the posts from his other town game I could believe he's just playing consistently not-very-good and thus is doing scum team's work for them. Not enough doubt to make me not vote for him of course but if he somehow flips green I'm going to feel like a bigger idiot than otherwise. Time for filters.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 20 2016 16:16 GMT
#492
If it's wildly different, he has been throwing mafia accusations his way all game, he didn't want people to deflect off exo why would he feel like an idiot when exo has done nothing and looks completely different?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 16:18 GMT
#493
yeah just realized you were talking to/about kmatt. rereading the part you quoted makes me feel all kinds of bad.

like legit "since that guys is very likely to be the lynch and I know hell flip green, so let me distance myself from the blame" stuff.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 16:22 GMT
#494
Though I guess it is not impossible for him to get cold feet over the lack of resistance over ExO_s lynch. Koshi was also showing a bit of that earlier.

Still not a good post by him.
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 20 2016 16:35 GMT
#495
On December 21 2016 01:22 disformation wrote:
Though I guess it is not impossible for him to get cold feet over the lack of resistance over ExO_s lynch. Koshi was also showing a bit of that earlier.

Still not a good post by him.


Now that you put it out there, it does seem like a cheap way to shift blame, I'll avoid that in the future.
We CAN have nice things
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 20 2016 16:38 GMT
#496
On December 21 2016 01:05 Holyflare wrote:
Seeing the posts from his other town game, consistently bad. Um, isn't the whole premise that it's wildly different from his town game?

Bae caught me slippin?


To be frank I didn't actually boot up 2hu mafia and read his posts for myself. I'm lazy like that. From what was posted here it sounded like his reactionary posting and short fuse are standard fare for him. I'll give it a glance after my bigger post to see if it's as different/telling as you make it sounds.
We CAN have nice things
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 20 2016 16:41 GMT
#497
so you're saying you didn't read it but literally the only one to really talk about it was disformation where he also lays out why it's different in the same post.................?
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 20 2016 17:08 GMT
#498
Wew that was fun.

Alakaslam
Wow he actually sucks.

I'll admit, he's done a fantastic job of "skating by". His filter is tiny and full of garbage. He had those posts where he talked about Rels' reads but had no actual content. To this point he hasn't even acknowledged either the Exo or Disinfo wagons. However despite all this I'm leaning more towards him playing Lazy Town rather than a quiet scum. If our wagons are both ML, then Mafia wants to hop on board for the town cred and ride for an easy kill. If we have scum targets they need to be derailing us. He's just not playing at all. In my other game we had Fidei86 being super inactive as scum (though that might have just been him not playing much) so I don't rule Slam being scum out. He's not my first priority here so he's getting a stay of votecution.

ExO_
By all accounts this guy is still scum in my book, mostly for reasons already stated (no scumreads on anyone but his accusers, over-defensiveness at my vote, being unhelpful in general). While the meta read is totally believable, I have no reason to doubt that he's both playing to his own standard and being scum. Regardless, I won't miss him when he's gone. The vote can stay here.

Koshi
For the most part I want to like this guy. His posts do seem a little erratic, but that's not necessarily scum behavior. If you could lay out in a single post your full case against Sicklucker I'd like to see it. Just looking at your filter didn't give me a clear picture on why he's scum and why we should vote him.

LightningStrike
Literally where?

While I'm not a fan of his absence, I can't pin it down to being scum for reasons in Slam's summary. He does need to get off his rump and do some McFriggin work though. Otherwise he seems harmlessly townie. I don't want harmless town I want murderous lynching town.

Sicklucker
Oh wow apparently he made a line about me and him being scumbuddies. I legitimately did not catch that until this post.

Anyway this guy gives off a Slam vibe. I think it's just in his nature to make these one-liner stream of consciousness posts but he looks to be all over the place regarding our wagons. First he thinks I'm scum, then he thinks both Exo and I are scum (which simply doesn't make sense), then me mentions Slam being scum but says nothing about that case. He looks like he's ready to hop on anyone that could be a ML. But since he's down for lynching Exo he's either bussing day 1 (questionable at best) or he's just playing weird town. His enthusiasm for Rels is also odd. That speaks to me as trying too hard for town cred. Also conveniently hasn't spoken a word about disinformation unless I missed something in his spotty filter.

If Exo flips green/blue we're putting this guy on ice.

Rels
Town enough for me. Asks good questions, hasn't done anything particularly scummy in my eyes. He got a little confused on Disinfos pseudo-scumread of Exo but that was a genuinely confusing post. For now I find no fault here.

Holyflare
I'll take him as town as well. More aggressive than I would play, but still very town. I could see him getting shot night one *cough*doc*cough*.

Kmatt
ayy

Disinformation
I genuinely can't tell if he's scum or just a town being all over the place. As much as I hate going neutral on a big wagon, I have to give him a null. If it weren't for the other more deliberately scummy players I would feel better voting for him but as it is I can't come to a conclusion. I'm watching closely.

My current scumteam comes out to Exo/Slam/SL.

TOWN
Rels
LightningStrike
Holyflare
Koshi
Disninformation
Alakaslam
Sicklucker
Exo
SCUM
We CAN have nice things
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 20 2016 17:14 GMT
#499
On December 20 2016 20:12 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 08:34 Rels wrote:
I was disliking the push on ExO at first because I witnessed first hand that ExO can be heavily tilted as town. But exo might be scum actually.

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 09:19 Rels wrote:
I'm caught up. disfo might be scum maybe, I didn't like his posts on SL and Slam these last few pages. But if the lynch was right now I would 1000% lynch exo.

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 18:57 Rels wrote:
I don't know if I want to lynch disfo. There are things in his filter might indicate him as scum (not his hedging, he's known to do that as town): his first post, his "HF point on me is good" post, his very bad reasonning on SL on Slam. But there are things that are good like this post:

These things. Mafia has a though time thinking things through as a townie would.

The first step figuring things out is easy for a townie, it instant happens in his brain, then the second step is thinking further and proving your initial gutfeeling.

You are not doing that, you are stuck on step 1 and making boring as fuck posts about that.

BS. The posts you quoted are actually all great indicators of my thought process.
I don't understand your logic on me. You know you don't read me well, I usually (always ?) fool you as scum, and you usually scumread me early game as town. Why are you so focus on me in this game ? It's nothing like last game, in which you gave me time to do stuff.
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 20 2016 17:15 GMT
#500
On December 21 2016 01:41 Holyflare wrote:
so you're saying you didn't read it but literally the only one to really talk about it was disformation where he also lays out why it's different in the same post.................?


And now I've read it. He's scum af. I was playing from work yesterday so I wouldn't read too far into stuff. Now that I'm full and well caught up I think I've seen all I need to. Exo has my vote and it would take a lot to change that.
We CAN have nice things
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