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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 19:09 GMT
#218
On December 20 2016 03:28 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 01:07 disformation wrote:
so. now for some great reads.

ExO_ is apparently not a morning person.

you are welcome.



on a more serious note:
on SL:
His opening + kmatt vote is very wifomy. It kinda boils down to: "would he post this kinda stuff as scum" and is as such not very AI.
BUT consider the timing: the thread was super dead at the time he posted that. is scum interested in revitalizing a dead thread by posting controversial/interesting stuff? not really.
so I think it makes him slightly more town than scum.

also like LS interactions with kmat. just want to see some conclusions at some point.

When did SL get this pass to scumclaim?

Why is that kind of shit tolerated what

What is his meta now?

SL actually plays a bit less erratic nowadays especially as town imo.

I kinda want to say that I have seen ppl pull this kind of stuff as either alignment and I am not a huge fan of coinflips.

No idea who gave SL that pass, might need to ask him. =D
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 19:15 GMT
#222
good point I prop should look at him again anyways.
cause I have like no scum reads and a bunch of ppl I don't want to lynch.

like i dont want to lynch hf, kmatt, ls and koshi.
me is town.
I like the latest batch of slam posts.

by pure poe i am down to rels, exo and sl.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 19:19 GMT
#226
On December 20 2016 04:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 04:15 disformation wrote:
good point I prop should look at him again anyways.
cause I have like no scum reads and a bunch of ppl I don't want to lynch.

like i dont want to lynch hf, kmatt, ls and koshi.
me is town.
I like the latest batch of slam posts.

by pure poe i am down to rels, exo and sl.

Why is slam out of your PoE?

I hope it is a really good reason.

Probably not. :D
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On December 20 2016 03:31 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 01:18 Kmatt wrote:
I didn't have much weight in SL's post having much meaning, just wanted to "explain the joke". No one would obviously scumslip that easily (at least not by accident) so I don't find anything scummy on him. Town enough for now.

LS seems town. Nothing groundbreaking but certainly nothing damning out of him.

I was ready to unvote ExO_ if he came in with some good responses (obviously we all sleep, not a huge deal) but from seeing his kneejerk reaction to me pointing a finger and nothing else makes me more confident in my call.

Alakaslam/Koshi/Holyflame are still ambiguous. I have to go take a final so I'll be back later.

Lol why am I in this list I may as well have been inactive

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 19:22 GMT
#228
On December 20 2016 04:14 Holyflare wrote:
disfo did you think those things about exo at the time or just now?

This post:
On December 20 2016 02:28 disformation wrote:
Reread this twice, but I am getting confused.
@ExO_
Recap your reads please: do you think Kmatt (and to an lesser extend koshi?) are scum/scummy or not?
Who should think who is suspcious/not suspicious?

and yeah I think I would prefer small words n stuff :p

was me being super confused about what exo's actual reads and thoughts behind bringing me up where.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 19:23 GMT
#229
also: disclaimer:
I know that slam has a reputation for being like a wild/erratic/hard to read player, but I havent played with him before (imo). So no idea about any meta stuff.

I just know it has something to do with hijole and/or the lack of htat.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 19:25 GMT
#231
also note: the list from earlier is not a "will never lynch" list. you ppl should know that i am too waffly for that.
it is a "not lynching now/today" list. and prolly subject to change.

sl and rels posting more would be appreciated on that matter.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 19:28 GMT
#235
On December 20 2016 04:24 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 04:19 disformation wrote:
On December 20 2016 04:18 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 04:15 disformation wrote:
good point I prop should look at him again anyways.
cause I have like no scum reads and a bunch of ppl I don't want to lynch.

like i dont want to lynch hf, kmatt, ls and koshi.
me is town.
I like the latest batch of slam posts.

by pure poe i am down to rels, exo and sl.

Why is slam out of your PoE?

I hope it is a really good reason.

Probably not. :D
Liked this post:
On December 20 2016 03:31 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:18 Kmatt wrote:
I didn't have much weight in SL's post having much meaning, just wanted to "explain the joke". No one would obviously scumslip that easily (at least not by accident) so I don't find anything scummy on him. Town enough for now.

LS seems town. Nothing groundbreaking but certainly nothing damning out of him.

I was ready to unvote ExO_ if he came in with some good responses (obviously we all sleep, not a huge deal) but from seeing his kneejerk reaction to me pointing a finger and nothing else makes me more confident in my call.

Alakaslam/Koshi/Holyflame are still ambiguous. I have to go take a final so I'll be back later.

Lol why am I in this list I may as well have been inactive


Yeah your reasoning is terrible. It's not because it is slam you shouldn't hold him to a high standard.
Everything slam did is well within his scum meta. It is not because he is simpler to understand this game that he is town. That's not how it works. Pretty easy post for scum!slam to make.

fair enough.
On December 20 2016 04:10 Holyflare wrote:
What I want to know though is why you gave SL a free town read for posting. If he had only posted his 0-1 other lines of posts do you think he would have started to be scum read instead?

If I remove those lines he has like 0 filter, so he would be in the land of "didnt do jack so far".
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 19:38 GMT
#238
On December 20 2016 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 04:22 disformation wrote:
On December 20 2016 04:14 Holyflare wrote:
disfo did you think those things about exo at the time or just now?

This post:
On December 20 2016 02:28 disformation wrote:
Reread this twice, but I am getting confused.
@ExO_
Recap your reads please: do you think Kmatt (and to an lesser extend koshi?) are scum/scummy or not?
Who should think who is suspcious/not suspicious?

and yeah I think I would prefer small words n stuff :p

was me being super confused about what exo's actual reads and thoughts behind bringing me up where.


yeah, that's what I thought

but this post was followed by this post:

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 02:59 disformation wrote:
having the problem that I dont think anyone is particular scummy atm.

somewhat iffy about hf, but super biased here. just think his earlier reasons to sr read me where really reaching and lukewarm. most recent ones are decent though.

exo is not looking hot at all, but I want so see him calm down a bit and post some legit reads.


so what I'm feeling weird about is that you don't have any scum reads on anybody but then come out to scum reading exo and making that big post on him

why didn't you just post this in the first place instead of holding things back and playing coy with people's reads on you?

Since I was very undecisive/confused on/about ExO_ I was hoping to get some answers to form a decent read on him.
On December 20 2016 04:30 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 04:28 disformation wrote:
On December 20 2016 04:24 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 04:19 disformation wrote:
On December 20 2016 04:18 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 04:15 disformation wrote:
good point I prop should look at him again anyways.
cause I have like no scum reads and a bunch of ppl I don't want to lynch.

like i dont want to lynch hf, kmatt, ls and koshi.
me is town.
I like the latest batch of slam posts.

by pure poe i am down to rels, exo and sl.

Why is slam out of your PoE?

I hope it is a really good reason.

Probably not. :D
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On December 20 2016 03:31 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:18 Kmatt wrote:
I didn't have much weight in SL's post having much meaning, just wanted to "explain the joke". No one would obviously scumslip that easily (at least not by accident) so I don't find anything scummy on him. Town enough for now.

LS seems town. Nothing groundbreaking but certainly nothing damning out of him.

I was ready to unvote ExO_ if he came in with some good responses (obviously we all sleep, not a huge deal) but from seeing his kneejerk reaction to me pointing a finger and nothing else makes me more confident in my call.

Alakaslam/Koshi/Holyflame are still ambiguous. I have to go take a final so I'll be back later.

Lol why am I in this list I may as well have been inactive


Yeah your reasoning is terrible. It's not because it is slam you shouldn't hold him to a high standard.
Everything slam did is well within his scum meta. It is not because he is simpler to understand this game that he is town. That's not how it works. Pretty easy post for scum!slam to make.

fair enough.
On December 20 2016 04:10 Holyflare wrote:
What I want to know though is why you gave SL a free town read for posting. If he had only posted his 0-1 other lines of posts do you think he would have started to be scum read instead?

If I remove those lines he has like 0 filter, so he would be in the land of "didnt do jack so far".


also in regards to this, you posted:

Show nested quote +
on SL:
His opening + kmatt vote is very wifomy. It kinda boils down to: "would he post this kinda stuff as scum" and is as such not very AI.
BUT consider the timing: the thread was super dead at the time he posted that. is scum interested in revitalizing a dead thread by posting controversial/interesting stuff? not really.
so I think it makes him slightly more town than scum.


now that you#ve admitted that it would be in the lands of 0 content and nothing happening, why do you equate that activity to a town lean rather than someone being forced to post minimal 0 content to appear active?

it's a weird conclusion leap and that's particularly why I didn't like it

I am a bit confused by that question. Now that he completely vanished after posting that stuff your point is pretty valid. At the time it looked like me that he wanted to give the thread stuff to talk about with his entry.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 19:43 GMT
#241
On December 20 2016 04:36 Koshi wrote:
disformation. Your problem is that your reads boil down to "everybody is town unless I have something bad to say about them."

You have called somebody town 3 times this game when the correct read is null.
You have not been pushing the game forward.
You feel absent but are lurking.
You said once too many that you have no reads, or that it is hard to gain reads.
You called HF & me mafia.

Yeah sry having a bit of a difficulty getting into the game properly. sry.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 19:44 GMT
#242
On December 20 2016 04:40 Holyflare wrote:
but that point hasn't changed since when you posted, sicklucker posted that comment and left and that was ages before you made your comment

Think I just wanted to post my opinion about that since other ppl were talking about that a bit.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 19:51 GMT
#243
On December 20 2016 04:44 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 04:40 Holyflare wrote:
but that point hasn't changed since when you posted, sicklucker posted that comment and left and that was ages before you made your comment

Think I just wanted to post my opinion about that since other ppl were talking about that a bit.

ANd for whatever reason I thought the read was decent. xD
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 19:53 GMT
#244
On December 20 2016 04:43 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 04:36 Koshi wrote:
disformation. Your problem is that your reads boil down to "everybody is town unless I have something bad to say about them."

You have called somebody town 3 times this game when the correct read is null.
You have not been pushing the game forward.
You feel absent but are lurking.
You said once too many that you have no reads, or that it is hard to gain reads.
You called HF & me mafia.

Yeah sry having a bit of a difficulty getting into the game properly. sry.

TBH one of those points should make my alignment 1000% obv. #selfmeta
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 19:57 GMT
#245
so trying to sort my thoughts:

town > less town:
hf = koshi > LS > Kmatt

less suspect < more suspect
Slam < SL < ExO_

null:
Rels

want all null and suspect ppl to post more tbh
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 20:00 GMT
#246
just realized this is majority lynch. *cough*

if all else fails: willing to consolidate with my town reads.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 20:21 GMT
#248
On December 20 2016 05:02 Kmatt wrote:
Seriously though is Rels even aware that we started? His most recent post was from last Thursday.

I do hope so.
Rels activity hasnt been amazing recently though. Would not be the first time he missed like the first half of day 1.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 21:36 GMT
#259
yo @SL : who do you think is more likely to be scum between ExO_ and Kmatt?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 21:37 GMT
#260
also what does kys mean?
"kay you suck"?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 21:59 GMT
#262
On December 20 2016 06:42 Holyflare wrote:
why are you so self defeatist this game disfo?

dont think that is that exceptionally extraordinary for me. xD

though dunno. good question actually. think i am having a bit of trouble getting *into* the game and am a bit demotivated, I had yet another pretty bad first half of D1. Though it was really bad, even for my standards. xD
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 22:17 GMT
#263
yo. I did just scroll through LS filter.
I still like his interactions with ppls, but he has 0 reads in his filter.

just to make sure: asking a lot of questions and interacting with ppl is LS town meta, correct?

still would like some reads soonish. xD
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 22:25 GMT
#264
or rather some conclusions.

also did look at kmatts filter again and saw something I liked.
I have an idea where SL's scumread is coming from, but would like for SL to explain it in full. doesnt need to be a wot, but a line or two would be nice.
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