• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:30
CEST 02:30
KST 09:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy9[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple1BSL Season 235Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool Bot on ladder [ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy new ranked ladder hack?
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro8 Day 1 [IPSL] IPSL is Back With Winter 26-27!
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Gaming Intensity, Problemati…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7829 users

Liquidmania Qualifier #1 - Page 16

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 108 Next
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 09:07 GMT
#301
Disformation / Rels should maybe be lynched into. Sicklucker as backup?
I had a good night of sleep.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 20 2016 09:08 GMT
#302
On December 20 2016 18:05 Koshi wrote:
I reread Exo and the first 10 pages of the game and nothing Exo did is showing any mafia mindset. I think the case on him boils down to "odd town play".

The case Rels makes on Exo, I don't know if that makes him mafia, it is a very odd play for mafia to constantly push such a deep idea while defending.
Show nested quote +
"If you think I am mafia you should also think disformation is mafia, but you don't think disformation is mafia so you are mafia".

I am reading Exo more like odd town than cornered mafia.


So currently I still don't like disinformation, sicklucker, Alakaslam & Rels. I might really not like Rels.

Why ?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 09:19 GMT
#303
On December 20 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 18:05 Koshi wrote:
I reread Exo and the first 10 pages of the game and nothing Exo did is showing any mafia mindset. I think the case on him boils down to "odd town play".

The case Rels makes on Exo, I don't know if that makes him mafia, it is a very odd play for mafia to constantly push such a deep idea while defending.
"If you think I am mafia you should also think disformation is mafia, but you don't think disformation is mafia so you are mafia".

I am reading Exo more like odd town than cornered mafia.


So currently I still don't like disinformation, sicklucker, Alakaslam & Rels. I might really not like Rels.

Why ?

If you are asking why I don't like you. I don't know yet. But my feels say you are potential mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 20 2016 09:22 GMT
#304
On December 20 2016 18:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 18:05 Koshi wrote:
I reread Exo and the first 10 pages of the game and nothing Exo did is showing any mafia mindset. I think the case on him boils down to "odd town play".

The case Rels makes on Exo, I don't know if that makes him mafia, it is a very odd play for mafia to constantly push such a deep idea while defending.
"If you think I am mafia you should also think disformation is mafia, but you don't think disformation is mafia so you are mafia".

I am reading Exo more like odd town than cornered mafia.


So currently I still don't like disinformation, sicklucker, Alakaslam & Rels. I might really not like Rels.

Why ?

If you are asking why I don't like you. I don't know yet. But my feels say you are potential mafia.

That is what I'm asking about and this doesn't statisfy me.
Why is SL anything other than null ?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 09:24 GMT
#305
On December 20 2016 18:22 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 18:19 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 18:05 Koshi wrote:
I reread Exo and the first 10 pages of the game and nothing Exo did is showing any mafia mindset. I think the case on him boils down to "odd town play".

The case Rels makes on Exo, I don't know if that makes him mafia, it is a very odd play for mafia to constantly push such a deep idea while defending.
"If you think I am mafia you should also think disformation is mafia, but you don't think disformation is mafia so you are mafia".

I am reading Exo more like odd town than cornered mafia.


So currently I still don't like disinformation, sicklucker, Alakaslam & Rels. I might really not like Rels.

Why ?

If you are asking why I don't like you. I don't know yet. But my feels say you are potential mafia.

That is what I'm asking about and this doesn't statisfy me.
Why is SL anything other than null ?

PoE makes his mafia chance higher.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 09:25 GMT
#306
Because I like you are here I shall read the latest pages as well. Maybe my feels are off. (wouldn't hope on it)
I had a good night of sleep.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 20 2016 09:32 GMT
#307
On December 20 2016 18:24 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 18:22 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 18:19 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 18:05 Koshi wrote:
I reread Exo and the first 10 pages of the game and nothing Exo did is showing any mafia mindset. I think the case on him boils down to "odd town play".

The case Rels makes on Exo, I don't know if that makes him mafia, it is a very odd play for mafia to constantly push such a deep idea while defending.
"If you think I am mafia you should also think disformation is mafia, but you don't think disformation is mafia so you are mafia".

I am reading Exo more like odd town than cornered mafia.


So currently I still don't like disinformation, sicklucker, Alakaslam & Rels. I might really not like Rels.

Why ?

If you are asking why I don't like you. I don't know yet. But my feels say you are potential mafia.

That is what I'm asking about and this doesn't statisfy me.
Why is SL anything other than null ?

PoE makes his mafia chance higher.

Why are you voting him then ?
On December 20 2016 18:25 Koshi wrote:
Because I like you are here I shall read the latest pages as well. Maybe my feels are off. (wouldn't hope on it)

Because that literally never happened in the history of TL mafia.
... right ? p:
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 20 2016 09:45 GMT
#308
Kmatt might be townier that I thought. I didn't like his early posts but that's because I didn't understand the logic. The rest of his filter is pretty natural, especially on exo, and I don't remember Kmatt being a good scum in the last game he played. I will have to reread it at some point to verify that thought.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 20 2016 09:57 GMT
#309
I don't know if I want to lynch disfo. There are things in his filter might indicate him as scum (not his hedging, he's known to do that as town): his first post, his "HF point on me is good" post, his very bad reasonning on SL on Slam. But there are things that are good like this post:
On December 20 2016 04:05 disformation wrote:
*sigh* okay, appears I am playing shit tier level currently. have another shit tier post on exo then:

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 02:15 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 02:11 Holyflare wrote:
Then why the fuck are you angry at mafia calling you mafia? What possible reason is there for you to be tilted that he's playing his alignment?

What I'm saying is and what you've now confirmed is you're getting tilted by someone doing a shit play when it's their literal job to do that. It doesn't make sense at all.


What if they aren't mafia? I don't like being called mafia at all. Especially for bullshit reasons. Literally look at the end of the most recent game I played. If you think this is getting "tilted" then I get tilted easily I guess. I don't understand why I'm not allowed to be tilted, especially when I say one sentence and am immediately voted and teamed by 2 people.

Either way it's far too early in the thread for me to lock into both of them being mafia. So I can't just brush them off entirely. THAT would be a scummy thing to do.

basically I can see him reacting badly to a SR on him (as either alignment), because I am prone to doing that, too (as either alignment). So I am thinking NAI here.
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 01:57 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:56 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:53 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:47 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:39 ExO_ wrote:
I'm fairly certain in past games Koshi has said something roughly along the lines of wasting inactive players is a waste of time, and we should focus on finding scum instead. Why is he so ready to lynch inactives now?

When there is content to discuss, sitting on your hands and lynching inactives is bad.

Is that what I am doing Exo? What am I doing Exo? Can you tell me what I am doing?


You and evidently kmatt think that the first post I make into the thread, because it's literally one of the first things I noticed when I realized the game started is making a huge case. I posted one sentence, and suddenly thats a case against kmatt? If you want to talk about overreaction, that's a huge overreaction. He immediately omgus me. I was literally still in bed and it tilted me a bit.

And you hop on in support of him right away, and then suggestion we should vote off an inactive. You won't commit to voting me, but I don't see you discussing anything else right now

I am fully committing voting you. Just cba to do it on phone.

I can only do so much. You are top priority atm. Pls answer my questions truthfully. You are on thin ice.


I couldn't care in the slightest about being on thin ice with you. You're a loose cannon. But how can I answer questions if you haven't even asked any?

His "I dont give a fuck" attitude towards koshi is rather town than scum imo.


The thing that confused me for that most part is that he suddenly brought me up. Yeah Im super biased, deal with it. Cause it does either make no sense or is a super bad deflection attempt. Maybe both? Problem is that town likes to do things that dont do much sense.

Another thing that ULTRA confuses me is this (note these two posts are back to back):
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 02:09 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 02:07 Holyflare wrote:
Like the kmart guy could be mafia and exo doesn't even factor that in. Just full on tilt mode for no reason.


.....what. That's literally the first thing I implied, and have continued with. just wat

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 02:15 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 02:11 Holyflare wrote:
Then why the fuck are you angry at mafia calling you mafia? What possible reason is there for you to be tilted that he's playing his alignment?

What I'm saying is and what you've now confirmed is you're getting tilted by someone doing a shit play when it's their literal job to do that. It doesn't make sense at all.


What if they aren't mafia? I don't like being called mafia at all. Especially for bullshit reasons. Literally look at the end of the most recent game I played. If you think this is getting "tilted" then I get tilted easily I guess. I don't understand why I'm not allowed to be tilted, especially when I say one sentence and am immediately voted and teamed by 2 people.

Either way it's far too early in the thread for me to lock into both of them being mafia. So I can't just brush them off entirely. THAT would be a scummy thing to do.

Does he believe they are mafia or not? Which is why I asked him to explain his reads again.


So his filter makes 0 sense to me, but not making sense is not necessarily scum indicative.
So I would love for him to come back and post some actual reads.

TBH I am in a super weird spot on ExO_. like he does not make much sense, but I am not finding him too scummy. yet, I dont really have legit scum reads, so he looks like the best bet.

I think this post is hard to do as scum, and even more in disfo's position, when he's been attacked for being on the side on not taking position.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 20 2016 10:03 GMT
#310
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 20 2016 10:05 GMT
#311
On December 20 2016 18:07 Koshi wrote:
Disformation / Rels should maybe be lynched into. Sicklucker as backup?

How convenient.

I look scummy as all shit now. Great.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 10:05 GMT
#312
I disagree. That post is extremely easy to make as scum. He made shitpost after shitpost, didn't do jack shit the entire time this was being discussed "live", and then at some later point in time he makes a recap post on Exo.

Really not impressed by that.


There are 2 things speaking in disformation his favor:
1) he was quite quickly poe'ed on the right people.
2) his tone is consistently terrible.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 10:06 GMT
#313
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

On December 20 2016 19:04 Alakaslam wrote:
##Vote: Rels


Ty slam. This is really good. Ty.
I had a good night of sleep.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 20 2016 10:08 GMT
#314
On December ?? 2016 0?? Kmatt wrote:
{Stuff I cut}

No, SL was obviously not serious about trying to get LS nightkilled. I find harmless banter at the start of the game to be more town behavior. As of now, with how absent he's been from discussion I have a null read on him. There hasn't really been pressure because we've been talking about different things.

I'd like to hear some thoughts from him and something constructive from LS.

NO. Don't propagate this bullshit, that was confusing as fuck and doesn't help town at all ever.

Like people do actually make mistakes and as town I want full advantage taken of those situations because a loss after dismissing them is embarrassing. And people gloat about that. Myself included.

Be smart. Play smart. "Banter" in the community thread.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 20 2016 10:09 GMT
#315
On December 20 2016 19:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 19:04 Alakaslam wrote:
##Vote: Rels


Ty slam. This is really good. Ty.

it is shit but whatever
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 20 2016 10:09 GMT
#316
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

What does that mean ? What am I unsure wrongly about ?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 10:09 GMT
#317
On December 20 2016 19:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 19:06 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

On December 20 2016 19:04 Alakaslam wrote:
##Vote: Rels


Ty slam. This is really good. Ty.

it is shit but whatever

No it is really good.
I had a good night of sleep.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 20 2016 10:11 GMT
#318
On December 20 2016 19:05 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. That post is extremely easy to make as scum. He made shitpost after shitpost, didn't do jack shit the entire time this was being discussed "live", and then at some later point in time he makes a recap post on Exo.

Really not impressed by that.


There are 2 things speaking in disformation his favor:
1) he was quite quickly poe'ed on the right people.
2) his tone is consistently terrible.

He made a recap post that resulted at NO conclusion, when he was under pressured for being waffled. This is NOT easy to make as scum, not the recap part, the not taking position part.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 20 2016 10:12 GMT
#319
On December 20 2016 19:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 19:04 Alakaslam wrote:
##Vote: Rels


Ty slam. This is really good. Ty.

You're beginning to annoy me
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 10:13 GMT
#320
On December 20 2016 19:11 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 19:05 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. That post is extremely easy to make as scum. He made shitpost after shitpost, didn't do jack shit the entire time this was being discussed "live", and then at some later point in time he makes a recap post on Exo.

Really not impressed by that.


There are 2 things speaking in disformation his favor:
1) he was quite quickly poe'ed on the right people.
2) his tone is consistently terrible.

He made a recap post that resulted at NO conclusion, when he was under pressured for being waffled. This is NOT easy to make as scum, not the recap part, the not taking position part.

Is this opposite world?
I had a good night of sleep.
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 108 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#100
PiGStarcraft333
SteadfastSC35
davetesta10
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft333
SpeCial 42
SteadfastSC 35
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 11771
Rain 1654
GuemChi 1488
Artosis 592
Hyun 58
910 20
Dota 2
monkeys_forever545
League of Legends
Doublelift5683
Counter-Strike
taco 183
minikerr15
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox435
Other Games
summit1g11496
Coldzera 822
Day[9].tv547
shahzam534
JimRising 445
C9.Mang0361
ViBE160
Maynarde56
CosmosSc2 32
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick794
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 89
• mYiSmile124
• musti20045 20
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Day9tv547
Upcoming Events
Kung Fu Cup
10h 30m
The PondCast
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
GSL
4 days
Yamato Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.