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Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

December 29 2016 19:58 GMT

#1161

On December 30 2016 04:51 disformation wrote:
@Grack:
GB did sheep the main wagon at the very end?

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Yeah but he made his sheep post after I had made my post on LS.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

December 29 2016 20:00 GMT

#1162

I'll get through the rest of the people in a bit.

Sneak peak: Slam was useless.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

December 29 2016 21:31 GMT

#1175

I'm going to have to grade my reads on a curve because a lot of people are coming off as scummy to me.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

December 29 2016 21:35 GMT

#1176

Super put in some analysis posts, but overall he's just seemed very blendy to me. I don't think that's a good sign since during the periods he was here there was a lot of focus on my arguments with Koshi. I think it could have been advantageous for scum to blend in during that period. Plus I think Superbia is a player that usually draws some attention to himself through his shit posting, and he may have received the least amount of attention so far this game. I think he has a pretty decent chance of being mafia.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

December 29 2016 21:40 GMT

#1178

Chezinu actually had a good post at the end of the day:

On December 29 2016 08:48 Chezinu wrote:
Where are the mafia counter wagons?!?!?!

This post makes me lean slightly townie on him.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

December 29 2016 21:42 GMT

#1179

Time Traveler said that he was going to filter people and he only made it through LS. He openly threw away his vote at the end of the day as a null vote. I don't know really what to make of him and I don't know if this is his normal play style or not. Strangely enough I don't view him as a likely partner of LS because LS' filter was the only one he looked at and he didn't like it.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

December 29 2016 21:50 GMT

#1181

On December 29 2016 08:21 beentheredonethat wrote:
Oh c'mon. Yes, I confirmed 2 days ago. Then, I had christmas dinner with gf's family, spent a nice time with her, she went home to my place with me and we continued having a nice time. Nail me on that if you feel like it and don't believe that I genuinely forgot about this game, okay. But lynching into me is the easiest thing to do for scum at this point.

Check my last town game and check my activity level there. I can and will contribute for town in the exact same way if you give me the chance to do so.

There's no way I will catch up in the like what 30 minutes or so we have until deadline. Tictock, the whole reason behind you voting me is that my vote was randomly cast on you.I checked if there was a main wagon, there wasn't, so I voted randomly.

More important even: as there seemingly aren't any clear wagons and town feels confident in lynching into afk/lurky players, I fear that mafia is currently in the driving seat of this game. Which leads my gut to Koshi who went under the radar pretty much ALWAYS when town was on the wrong track. I correctly read him as scum once already so I guess it's worth something. Koshi has 1 filter, compared to his last town game of D1 that's horrendous. Also note Time Traveler's vote on me and keep a close look on ANYONE that voted me early as I am right now a very low hanging fruit for mafia and lazy town alike.

These seem like bold conclusions for somebody who admitted that he has not read the game at all. Especially the part about Koshi going under the radar when town was off track. There could have been decent cases put out that he had just not read.

I don't like that his first reaction was that he didn't feel comfortable making a judgement without reading the thread and wanted to throw away his vote, and then when people voted for him he came back with very strong conclusions about Koshi's alignment. I think it's possible for Btdt to have gotten strong conclusions from reading Koshi's filter. It seems a little off to me.

However, the last time I saw btdt as scum he posted a lot less than he has here and his posting seemed more uncomfortable to me. I'm going to mark him as null.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

December 29 2016 21:53 GMT

#1183

I have to speed this up faster than I would like because I have to go soon. DF said earlier that he didn't want to lynch Koshi on day 1. However, his read progression seemed natural enough to me and he's made a lot of contributions that I liked.

He's one of my top town alongside ExO.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

December 29 2016 21:54 GMT

#1184

I think we all know where I stand on LS. Disfo made a post saying that last game LS disappeared when he was under pressure and that he did the same thing this game. I think that's a good post. You can add that on to what I've said on him.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

December 29 2016 21:58 GMT

#1185

Overall reads: (graded with a bit of a curve)

Town:
ExO
DF

Town lean:
GB
Chezinu
TimeTraveler (by connection to LS, otherwise null)

Null:
Slam
Btdt

Scum lean:
Disfo
TT
Superbia

Very likely scum:
LS

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

December 29 2016 22:02 GMT

#1188

On December 30 2016 06:58 disformation wrote:
No LS didnt disappear when he was under pressure. he just went afk like 2h before deadline, after saying the main wagon is town cause meta and trying a little bit to get ppl to vote with koshi and him on another guy who turned out to be town.

Yeah you're right he was gone way earlier than I had remembered. I thought I remembered him being there at EoD.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

December 29 2016 22:06 GMT

#1193

On December 30 2016 07:03 darthfoley wrote:

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On December 30 2016 04:43 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok I have read through all of the filters. LS still looks very scummy and I think it is a massive red flag that Koshi got lynched over him. I think my case on LS should have gained more traction than it did. I also think that if Koshi and LS were being viewed as equally scummy then normally the lynch would land on LS.

I actually think ExO came out very townie from the lynch. He was the only person that fully took control during all of the waffling and pushed through who he wanted to be lynched, which was consistent from his earlier posts.

GlowingBear has seemed pretty townie to me. However, he said that he would sheep me and never moved his vote. He loses points for that. I think that if he had moved his vote then LS would have been more likely to have been lynched. Also I may be biased because he defended me at the end of the day.

I think TT looks quite bad from the lynch. He started out calling Koshi very townie but he offered no real defense of him when Chezinu and BtDt voted to lynch him.

On December 28 2016 15:02 Tictock wrote:
I started this post over twice kus I both want to let Grack and Koshi get into it, yet I also feel like I want to weigh in.

Koshi is towny AF and Grack could easily be mafia. However, I do rather like Gracks rundowns of the game.

I'm setteling in to reread Dis now but I'd also like to point out how incredibly shit GB's last batch of posts were.

On December 29 2016 07:06 Tictock wrote:

On December 29 2016 06:52 Time Traveler wrote:
Wait, Grack actually wants Koshi dead after defending him? da fack. Guess I'll have to re-read

It's about half OMGUS based, but he doesn't like that Koshi is pushing him without interacting with him.

It's a fair point honestly, I just don't want to lynch Koshi today.

On December 29 2016 08:49 Tictock wrote:

On December 29 2016 08:43 Time Traveler wrote:
BtDt, be honest, you just want to lynch me because I voted you without saying anything and caused all this mess by accident. And now you're like "OMG. THIS GUY ALMOST GOT ME KILLED. #DOWNWITHHIM

Your vote was quite opportunistic and have not really brought any scum hunting to the table yourself.

Honestly if it weren't for this being your first game you would probably be the lynch right now. That is the only thing holding me back ATM and I'm wondering if that isn't completely wrong right now.

I'm also not terribly keen on D1 lynching Koshi as I don't think he has really been scummy at all. He has fooled me in the past though....bleh.

On December 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh not sure where the vote count is at. If we are actually between LS and Koshi then I'm going with LS.

He also joins in with a bunch of other people blaming me for the Koshi lynch, when I had at least made a case for voting LS over Koshi.

On December 29 2016 08:59 Tictock wrote:

On December 29 2016 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:

On December 29 2016 08:56 darthfoley wrote:
Why is Grack not voting Koshi after getting lots of us to vote Koshi?

I'm feeling nervous about how easily this lynch is happening when so many people were hard townreading Koshi when I started posting today.

If Koshi flips Town you are getting scrutinized to all hell tomorrow.

He did nothing to prevent the Koshi lynch. He didn't even move his vote. That's scummy.

I realized I'm going to have to break this post up into many parts.

Idk his play just reminded me of how i felt near EoD. Also tbf the posts about Koshi being very townie were relatively early on in the game, similar to when I said I wouldn't lynch Koshi on D1. I don't really understand why you view our two similar plays so differently?

No TT was still town reading him. TT had a post saying that Koshi was not very scummy 11 minutes before lynch, but "he fooled me in the past. . . bleh."

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

December 29 2016 22:08 GMT

#1195

Anyways I g2g. If I die you know what to do tomorrow.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

January 03 2017 01:05 GMT

#1249

On January 03 2017 10:01 darthfoley wrote:
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Hi there+ Show Spoiler +

are you a host?+ Show Spoiler +

if not... GO NO FURTHER!+ Show Spoiler +

I am warning you...+ Show Spoiler +

Tbh this is the most fun game i've played on TL. Never played a bastard game before but it's so spicy!

DF is having too much fun. Hit him with a punishment bill. We need to keep things balanced here.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

January 03 2017 01:07 GMT

#1254

On January 03 2017 10:06 darthfoley wrote:

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Hey! You aren't a host. You should've have read that. I warned you!

Fuck my bad. I lied.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

January 03 2017 01:30 GMT

#1265

On January 03 2017 10:30 darthfoley wrote:
Is no one seriously around? You had like four god damn days away to have a real life.

Captain Grackaroni, reporting for duty!

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

January 03 2017 01:38 GMT

#1267

On January 03 2017 10:33 darthfoley wrote:

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Do you, or do you not, have tattooed on your bottom, the words

"Jesus is coming, look busy!"

No way. Let me refer you to some material on my religious upbringing that I posted earlier on omgus.

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"I had wanted to take a stance on the religious wars, but I was too overwrought with emotion. I must admit, when I was young, I had a traumatic experience.

For you see, my father was the Flying Spaghetti Monster. And I was but a mere grounded macaroni monster, i.e. a Grackaroni. And everyone idolized my father because he was a flying spaghetti. So one day I asked him: what is it that makes you fly, father? Why are you the revered Flying Spaghetti Monster, while I am only a grounded macaroni monster?

He had said that the power was hidden in the holy sauce. Therefore, I decided to run an experiment on the holy sauce of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. There was much turmoil in the house of pasta, for I had uncovered his sordid secret. The sauce tested positive for red bull. When I hid the red bull, no longer could my father fly. And now I know only one truth. Red bull gives you wings."

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

January 03 2017 01:40 GMT

#1269

Slam I've spoken to several aliens. I will help you make contact, but you're going to have to act cool.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

January 03 2017 01:43 GMT

#1275

On January 03 2017 10:42 darthfoley wrote:
Would anyone like an item trade?

I'll trade

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

January 03 2017 02:03 GMT

#1288

On January 03 2017 09:01 disformation wrote:
timeline
VCA addendum for timeline.
Koshi (7) : ExO_, Chezinu, darthfoley, beentheredonethat, GlowingBear, Grackaroni, disformation

Okay. So the idea is that scum is less likely to start/open a new wagon, but rather hops onto a wagon for easy/sheepy reasons.
Since there was no counter wagon and only wagons with 2-3 ppl, I'd say that means the first 3 ppl are slightly less likely to be scum.
Overall there are 1-2 scum on that wagon. So tldr: I am pretty sure there is 1+ scummer in btdt, gb, grack, me

out of these four grack looks the worst (to me), as I already explained (yes he basically invented the wagon, but he also had to be basically reminded to vote koshi, as he was supposed to be according to what he said/did D1).
gb and me just hopped on at the very end for consolidation. doesnt actually give a lot of info, esp on GB who was afk leading up to EoD.
chez also had a really suspect reason to vote koshi, but at least he did so fairly early.
for btdt there is the question why he was so against lynching LS and for darth why he went from lynching into the nulls into lynching ls/koshi.

I'm being pressured to analyze things by forces unknown.

These reads are really shallow, inconsistent, and scummy. For one thing, I tried to start multiple wagons during the end of the day. A wagon on LS didn't take because other people wanted Koshi. I think there might be reasons for that but maybe I'm wrong. Looking at only the final vote count to see who tried to push forward a lynch is a total distortion of what happened during the end of the day.

Also, the only people that "jumped onto a wagon for easy sheepy reasons" are the people that Disfo has written off because they did it for "consolidation."

I'm also at a general loss for how he ignores that I tried to lynch his #2 scum read at the end of the day. What more could I have possibly done to make myself townie?

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