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On December 29 2016 08:20 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:17 darthfoley wrote:On December 29 2016 08:15 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:14 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:12 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 08:12 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:08 darthfoley wrote:On December 28 2016 06:23 LightningStrike wrote:On December 28 2016 04:46 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't understand how Koshi is town reading LS. He came back recently and he was still focused entirely on Koshi's first post.
He's probably the most likely mafia at this point. You be suprised how hard I can tunnel as town. Yet you haven't tunneled anyone. You also added onto Koshi's case on Grack with a bad point onto a case that was already bad. Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward. I do not like this post. I do. should have specified: I dont mind the first sentence. I really do not like the second. I should go to bed. specifically i dislike the "Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward." because i feel it is not true at all Yea okay you've now used three posts to tell us you don't like it. Why is it not true? Who/what has he pushed that have been original points? Show nested quote +On December 27 2016 12:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I going to put a vote on Koshi for right now because his opening was pure shit and not like any town opening I remember him doing.
##Vote: Koshi Show nested quote +On December 27 2016 12:15 LightningStrike wrote:
I also really liking ExO already too he trying to push a town agenda and get this game rolling off the bat. Show nested quote +On December 27 2016 14:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Tbh Grack's defense of Koshi is a little bit strange can't remember if he did the same thing regarding me in my very first game together. Anyways I think we should leave Slam alone and see what he does because one of the ways Geript had a good read on to Slam is if Slam does his own thing which would mean he would be town so I rather see what he does later. Show nested quote +On December 28 2016 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:On December 28 2016 03:45 disformation wrote:
I like GB.
I like Koshi liking GB.
I dislike Koshi liking ExO_
but tbh Im just policy voting ExO_ :D Pretty terrible policy vote tbh. I think he's more likely town than scum at this point and we shouldn't lynch him. Show nested quote +On December 28 2016 10:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Nothing really was going on and post game of the other game just started.
@Darth thoughts on Koshi? Show nested quote +On December 28 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
I too think Grack is potential mafia too due to how when I was hard pushing you Koshi earlier he kept trying to steer it away to Slam who we both know is harder to read based on pure pushing.
Really?
The original Koshi push was a follow up of ExO's push.
There's a bunch of duplicate town reads on ExO
And then 2 posts on my Koshi post that DF (and I) already addressed.
Now here's an experiment for you. Go through my filter just starting around page 5 or 6 and make a comparison.
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On December 29 2016 08:26 darthfoley wrote:
Grack, ExO: what do you guys think about going Koshi? I am most comfortable with LS or Koshi ATM.
I honestly think LS is the better lynch. But obviously I'm willing to switch to Koshi.
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On December 29 2016 08:27 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:26 beentheredonethat wrote:On December 29 2016 08:24 ExO_ wrote:On December 29 2016 08:21 beentheredonethat wrote:
Oh c'mon. Yes, I confirmed 2 days ago. Then, I had christmas dinner with gf's family, spent a nice time with her, she went home to my place with me and we continued having a nice time. Nail me on that if you feel like it and don't believe that I genuinely forgot about this game, okay. But lynching into me is the easiest thing to do for scum at this point.
Check my last town game and check my activity level there. I can and will contribute for town in the exact same way if you give me the chance to do so.
There's no way I will catch up in the like what 30 minutes or so we have until deadline. Tictock, the whole reason behind you voting me is that my vote was randomly cast on you.I checked if there was a main wagon, there wasn't, so I voted randomly.
More important even: as there seemingly aren't any clear wagons and town feels confident in lynching into afk/lurky players, I fear that mafia is currently in the driving seat of this game. Which leads my gut to Koshi who went under the radar pretty much ALWAYS when town was on the wrong track. I correctly read him as scum once already so I guess it's worth something. Koshi has 1 filter, compared to his last town game of D1 that's horrendous. Also note Time Traveler's vote on me and keep a close look on ANYONE that voted me early as I am right now a very low hanging fruit for mafia and lazy town alike.
you have 2 posts in this game, that you confirmed in to. You promising to be active now doesn't really convince me you will be. Why are you just coming out and voting now that its been mentioned you need 3 posts? Because I went to teamliquid.net to see if I'm going to get lynched and actually care about this game? see darth pressure votes do work!
A wild Chezinu appears!
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On December 29 2016 08:31 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:24 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 08:20 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:17 darthfoley wrote:On December 29 2016 08:15 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:14 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:12 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 08:12 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:08 darthfoley wrote:On December 28 2016 06:23 LightningStrike wrote:
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You be suprised how hard I can tunnel as town. Yet you haven't tunneled anyone. You also added onto Koshi's case on Grack with a bad point onto a case that was already bad. Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward. I do not like this post. I do. should have specified: I dont mind the first sentence. I really do not like the second. I should go to bed. specifically i dislike the "Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward." because i feel it is not true at all Yea okay you've now used three posts to tell us you don't like it. Why is it not true? Who/what has he pushed that have been original points? On December 27 2016 12:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I going to put a vote on Koshi for right now because his opening was pure shit and not like any town opening I remember him doing.
##Vote: Koshi On December 27 2016 12:15 LightningStrike wrote:
I also really liking ExO already too he trying to push a town agenda and get this game rolling off the bat. On December 27 2016 14:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Tbh Grack's defense of Koshi is a little bit strange can't remember if he did the same thing regarding me in my very first game together. Anyways I think we should leave Slam alone and see what he does because one of the ways Geript had a good read on to Slam is if Slam does his own thing which would mean he would be town so I rather see what he does later. On December 28 2016 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:On December 28 2016 03:45 disformation wrote:
I like GB.
I like Koshi liking GB.
I dislike Koshi liking ExO_
but tbh Im just policy voting ExO_ :D Pretty terrible policy vote tbh. I think he's more likely town than scum at this point and we shouldn't lynch him. On December 28 2016 10:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Nothing really was going on and post game of the other game just started.
@Darth thoughts on Koshi? On December 28 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
I too think Grack is potential mafia too due to how when I was hard pushing you Koshi earlier he kept trying to steer it away to Slam who we both know is harder to read based on pure pushing. Really? The original Koshi push was a follow up of ExO's push. There's a bunch of duplicate town reads on ExO And then 2 posts on my Koshi post that DF (and I) already addressed. Now here's an experiment for you. Go through my filter just starting around page 5 or 6 and make a comparison. I dont think LS filter will ever look like one of yours regardless of alignment.  If only based on the fact that he isnt posting as much. But I think I feel actually better not lynching you.
That's a fair point. But I've definitely had games where I've gotten strong town feelings from LS before and this just isn't one of those for me.
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This is one of the largest voting clusterfucks I have ever seen.
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I'm not sure if GB is coming back. He promised sheepings.
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Disfo what is going through your mind right now?
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On December 29 2016 08:47 ExO_ wrote:
Disinfo why are you waiting to the last second to vote anything?
Yeah I don't like how reactive he has seemed.
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Killing Koshi was my primary goal for today but I don't feel all that great about the way it has happened lol.
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Lol I'm going to end up getting killed with a 2 vote split.
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On December 29 2016 08:54 Chezinu wrote:
I R SCARES!!
I'LL SAVE YOU CHEZINU
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On December 29 2016 08:56 darthfoley wrote:
Why is Grack not voting Koshi after getting lots of us to vote Koshi?
I'm feeling nervous about how easily this lynch is happening when so many people were hard townreading Koshi when I started posting today.
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On December 29 2016 04:14 Koshi wrote:
Try your bestest Grackie. I think it is possible.
Worth for this post.
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How much should we read into Disfo voting himself? That makes me kind of hesitant on him.
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I'm going to call it a night.
I think we're in a much better spot than it appears. There's going to be a lot of information from people reacting during the uncertain periods of the lynch.
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Slam are you still here? I came back.
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These posts are good Disfo.
I'll take responsibility for the Koshi lynch. I had expected LS to be the one to get lynched, as there were lots of people that had either town read Koshi or had him on a list of people they wouldn't lynch day 1. I got cold feet on the Koshi lynch when Chez/Btdt joined the Koshi lynch and nobody else jumped on LS or any other lynch.
The primary goal thing should be explained if you look back at when I first came back to the thread during the second half of day 1. Koshi's response was bothering me and then he issued a challenge for me to lynch him.
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Ok I have read through all of the filters. LS still looks very scummy and I think it is a massive red flag that Koshi got lynched over him. I think my case on LS should have gained more traction than it did. I also think that if Koshi and LS were being viewed as equally scummy then normally the lynch would land on LS.
I actually think ExO came out very townie from the lynch. He was the only person that fully took control during all of the waffling and pushed through who he wanted to be lynched, which was consistent from his earlier posts.
GlowingBear has seemed pretty townie to me. However, he said that he would sheep me and never moved his vote. He loses points for that. I think that if he had moved his vote then LS would have been more likely to have been lynched. Also I may be biased because he defended me at the end of the day.
I think TT looks quite bad from the lynch. He started out calling Koshi very townie but he offered no real defense of him when Chezinu and BtDt voted to lynch him.
On December 28 2016 15:02 Tictock wrote:
I started this post over twice kus I both want to let Grack and Koshi get into it, yet I also feel like I want to weigh in.
Koshi is towny AF and Grack could easily be mafia. However, I do rather like Gracks rundowns of the game.
I'm setteling in to reread Dis now but I'd also like to point out how incredibly shit GB's last batch of posts were.
On December 29 2016 07:06 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 06:52 Time Traveler wrote:
Wait, Grack actually wants Koshi dead after defending him? da fack. Guess I'll have to re-read It's about half OMGUS based, but he doesn't like that Koshi is pushing him without interacting with him. It's a fair point honestly, I just don't want to lynch Koshi today.
On December 29 2016 08:49 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:43 Time Traveler wrote:
BtDt, be honest, you just want to lynch me because I voted you without saying anything and caused all this mess by accident. And now you're like "OMG. THIS GUY ALMOST GOT ME KILLED. #DOWNWITHHIM Your vote was quite opportunistic and have not really brought any scum hunting to the table yourself. Honestly if it weren't for this being your first game you would probably be the lynch right now. That is the only thing holding me back ATM and I'm wondering if that isn't completely wrong right now. I'm also not terribly keen on D1 lynching Koshi as I don't think he has really been scummy at all. He has fooled me in the past though....bleh.
On December 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh not sure where the vote count is at. If we are actually between LS and Koshi then I'm going with LS.
He also joins in with a bunch of other people blaming me for the Koshi lynch, when I had at least made a case for voting LS over Koshi. On December 29 2016 08:59 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 08:56 darthfoley wrote:
Why is Grack not voting Koshi after getting lots of us to vote Koshi? I'm feeling nervous about how easily this lynch is happening when so many people were hard townreading Koshi when I started posting today. If Koshi flips Town you are getting scrutinized to all hell tomorrow.
He did nothing to prevent the Koshi lynch. He didn't even move his vote. That's scummy.
I realized I'm going to have to break this post up into many parts.
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I think Disfo is still pretty scummy. During the end of the day he seemed to be trying to just keep all of his options open. He spent a lot of time waffling on me and never gave any kind of a definitive read.
Also, a lot of Disfo's EoD was spent defending LS. When DF asked him to specify which contributions LS had made that Disfo had liked, I think his list was just incredibly bad.
On December 29 2016 08:20 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:17 darthfoley wrote:On December 29 2016 08:15 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:14 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:12 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 08:12 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:08 darthfoley wrote:On December 28 2016 06:23 LightningStrike wrote:On December 28 2016 04:46 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't understand how Koshi is town reading LS. He came back recently and he was still focused entirely on Koshi's first post.
He's probably the most likely mafia at this point. You be suprised how hard I can tunnel as town. Yet you haven't tunneled anyone. You also added onto Koshi's case on Grack with a bad point onto a case that was already bad. Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward. I do not like this post. I do. should have specified: I dont mind the first sentence. I really do not like the second. I should go to bed. specifically i dislike the "Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward." because i feel it is not true at all Yea okay you've now used three posts to tell us you don't like it. Why is it not true? Who/what has he pushed that have been original points? Show nested quote +On December 27 2016 12:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I going to put a vote on Koshi for right now because his opening was pure shit and not like any town opening I remember him doing.
##Vote: Koshi Show nested quote +On December 27 2016 12:15 LightningStrike wrote:
I also really liking ExO already too he trying to push a town agenda and get this game rolling off the bat. Show nested quote +On December 27 2016 14:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Tbh Grack's defense of Koshi is a little bit strange can't remember if he did the same thing regarding me in my very first game together. Anyways I think we should leave Slam alone and see what he does because one of the ways Geript had a good read on to Slam is if Slam does his own thing which would mean he would be town so I rather see what he does later. Show nested quote +On December 28 2016 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:On December 28 2016 03:45 disformation wrote:
I like GB.
I like Koshi liking GB.
I dislike Koshi liking ExO_
but tbh Im just policy voting ExO_ :D Pretty terrible policy vote tbh. I think he's more likely town than scum at this point and we shouldn't lynch him. Show nested quote +On December 28 2016 10:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Nothing really was going on and post game of the other game just started.
@Darth thoughts on Koshi? Show nested quote +On December 28 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
I too think Grack is potential mafia too due to how when I was hard pushing you Koshi earlier he kept trying to steer it away to Slam who we both know is harder to read based on pure pushing.
He also had stated that he wasn't interested in lynching Koshi today, and never pushed forward his own alternative.
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