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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 22:15 GMT
#738
On December 28 2016 06:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2016 03:32 Koshi wrote:
superbia good lynch

ExO town. Making bad assumptions and those more likely come from town. (I am demotivated, TiTr is from other site). If he is mafia he is doing a good job at bullshitting hard without it being obvious. His reaction to the "most lynchable" sentence of darth was really good. top town. Great post on Grack. Tip top town.

Grack coming in defending me is mafia. He also keeps it up without really trying to discover the alignment of other players. Double mafia. Going soft after LS after his townie post about grack makes him tripple mafia.

TT is town. Good posts + chill posting style. Great post on Superbia.

LS is more likely town. + Show Spoiler +
On December 27 2016 12:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2016 12:17 Grackaroni wrote:
I get that it's unusual for Koshi to fuck off, but he usually tries to make his scum play match his town play.

*yawn* Everyone tries to make their scum game like their town game.

<- townie bravure. Also like his Grack read. It was prudent. Town!LS style.

Alakaslam good plynch. Also defended me for no reason at all.

Disformation is looking extremely clueless. I am not sure if that makes him town or mafia not knowing wtf to do.

GB could be town. Brought a new wave of information/game solving when entering thread.

TiTr might be pushing mafia agenda calling a bunch of people town at the same time. Very bad thing to do, vary naive if he is town.

darthfoley is looking at the right places with his lynch. I don't like the order yet so nullish. Also didn't dislike his previous posts, but don't love them either.



tldr: 3 people are more likely town. GB/ExO and LS.

Grack
Disfo
Slam
TiTr
Superbia
darth
GB
TT
ExO

People calling ExO mafia should probably just unistall the game. Which for those people probably means unistall internet explorer.

People who think Grack is town should do the same. While Chez tries to cheat himself towards an easy townread (probably on accident, I didn't read his post) Grack is making sure people are not townreading him by using argumentation only mafia can know. I don't know if he scumslipped there, but it looks horrible. That and the fact he is now on 25 posts doing absolutely nothing game solving. Quite amazing.


My bad townread of Superbia boils down to the fact he is a boring townie interacting with the hosts because scumhunting isn't his forte anyway. lol. last part was a joke. or maybe not.

Putting disformation also high on the scumlist. Still have no clue what he is doing, but everything he does looks forced and terrible.

Then Koshi follows up with this bolded opportunistic bullshit. I got the role PM thing from the OP, which he could spend 5 minutes checking before rushing to try to condemn me.

I've already pointed out that Koshi's push here is completely uncharacteristic of Koshi from his past postings, and is likely bullshit that he does not truly believe. He knows that not wanting to rely on role PMs to solve the game isn't scummy.
On December 28 2016 11:53 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2016 06:40 Koshi wrote:
On December 28 2016 03:32 Koshi wrote:
superbia good lynch

ExO town. Making bad assumptions and those more likely come from town. (I am demotivated, TiTr is from other site). If he is mafia he is doing a good job at bullshitting hard without it being obvious. His reaction to the "most lynchable" sentence of darth was really good. top town. Great post on Grack. Tip top town.

Grack coming in defending me is mafia. He also keeps it up without really trying to discover the alignment of other players. Double mafia. Going soft after LS after his townie post about grack makes him tripple mafia.

TT is town. Good posts + chill posting style. Great post on Superbia.

LS is more likely town. + Show Spoiler +
On December 27 2016 12:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2016 12:17 Grackaroni wrote:
I get that it's unusual for Koshi to fuck off, but he usually tries to make his scum play match his town play.

*yawn* Everyone tries to make their scum game like their town game.

<- townie bravure. Also like his Grack read. It was prudent. Town!LS style.

Alakaslam good plynch. Also defended me for no reason at all.

Disformation is looking extremely clueless. I am not sure if that makes him town or mafia not knowing wtf to do.

GB could be town. Brought a new wave of information/game solving when entering thread.

TiTr might be pushing mafia agenda calling a bunch of people town at the same time. Very bad thing to do, vary naive if he is town.

darthfoley is looking at the right places with his lynch. I don't like the order yet so nullish. Also didn't dislike his previous posts, but don't love them either.



tldr: 3 people are more likely town. GB/ExO and LS.

People who think Grack is town should do the same. While Chez tries to cheat himself towards an easy townread (probably on accident, I didn't read his post) Grack is making sure people are not townreading him by using argumentation only mafia can know. I don't know if he scumslipped there, but it looks horrible. That and the fact he is now on 25 posts doing absolutely nothing game solving. Quite amazing.

Now as for the next point, I find it quite sad
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 07:20 Koshi wrote:
On October 04 2016 07:16 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 07:00 Grackaroni wrote:
Lol NU I think the rule is pretty well defined.


I do not. Hence why I ask. I would like specific examples to know whether the rules prohibit me from being mod confirmed.

rules? What about your honor as a player.
I already know what this is about and it is superlame. superlame.

that all talk of honor was but a mere fad.

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 22:20 GMT
#742
On December 28 2016 11:00 Koshi wrote:
##vote Grackaroni

in 4 pages:
I have no clue who he thinks is mafia.
I have not seen him push the game forward. (aka brought new interesting topics to discuss with people)
I have not seen him try to progress his own reads by asking somebody a question that would further his read on them.
He scumreads LS, makes 2 posts on why he is mafia, and then doesn't mention him in the next 20 posts he makes.
He townreads ExO when it is safe to do so, and then pushes that read onto people like he discovered that read. While he had nothing to say about ExO the entire game (before he hard townread him).


Probably mafia. Will monitor if he picks up his play.


Here for the first point he contradicts himself at #4.

For #3 I put a lot of effort to try to talk to Koshi, and I legitimately believe he may be purposely avoiding me. I am here constantly and have been able to talk with almost everybody else.

And #5 wasn't an outright falsehood.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 22:20 GMT
#743
*was
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 22:26 GMT
#747
On December 29 2016 07:18 disformation wrote:
well, I kinda agree with the koshi part where he says you have like 25 posts without game solving and stuff. =p

can someone else verify that grack posts a lot without having a lot of content?

I'm a major shit poster.

I have just recently accepted an invitation into an OMGUS game.

I think that should verify my shit posting credentials.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 22:31 GMT
#755
On December 29 2016 07:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Also btdt is a terrible lynch because we wont get any information regarding anything tbh.

Why not? Any lynch should be informative today.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 22:35 GMT
#768
On December 29 2016 07:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 07:32 disformation wrote:
what do you think of the more recent grack posts. like when he was filtering ppl and stuff

Will read them now and post what I think on mobile because I gtg from home in about 2 minutes.

You'll probably like them. they're very anti-Koshi. Lol
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 22:36 GMT
#770
I'm souring on LS.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 22:38 GMT
#775
I don't like that first he was calling me scum for being Koshi's scum partner and now he's saying that I'm scum because my Koshi fight seems like it's between town and scum. Those are opposite reasons but I always seem to end up the lynch over Koshi.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 22:39 GMT
#777
On December 29 2016 07:38 Time Traveler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 07:34 Tictock wrote:
Oh wow Ninja vote from Traveler.

Humm...


Your vote system here in TL is strange as fuck.

Normally we explain why we're voting for somebody here before we vote in the voting thread.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 22:43 GMT
#786
On December 29 2016 07:40 darthfoley wrote:
I still find LS's Koshi v Grack analysis very very troubling and i'm nervous about it

Show nested quote +
On December 28 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
I too think Grack is potential mafia too due to how when I was hard pushing you Koshi earlier he kept trying to steer it away to Slam who we both know is harder to read based on pure pushing.


this post man??? Grack did a better job of pointing out the inconsistencies it assumes, but c'mon like what

What bothers me more is that while I think that's an acceptable post to see from LS, I can't see how Koshi would be able to call that post excellent.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 22:43 GMT
#787
On December 29 2016 07:43 GlowingBear wrote:
Can we just lynch between chez or slan if we are not lynching Mafia today?

Yes
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 22:45 GMT
#792
I've forgotten why I was going to lynch Disfo.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 22:45 GMT
#793
It was probably something GB said
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 22:47 GMT
#800
On December 29 2016 07:45 LightningStrike wrote:
We not lynching ExO I think he's a paranoid town. He shown this in his last game.

This again is wtf level.

He made three reads at the start of the game. ExO seems townie. Koshi is mafia. Grack is mafia for deflecting off of Koshi.
Every post he has made since then has just been reiterating the exact same reads while changing around the reasoning behind them.

I don't think he can come up with his own reads. At this point I think we just kill LS.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 22:54 GMT
#821
On December 29 2016 07:53 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 07:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Well I'm voting Chez. I'm not lynching an AFK nor a toenie


I don't understand why Chez or Slam are better coinflips than BtDt.

I think they're just less likely to play later.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 22:55 GMT
#824
I think I have to assume at this point that a Koshi lynch isn't happening, which makes me very dissappoint. But meh.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 23:00 GMT
#832
Can we lynch LS? I think he's more likely to be scum than Koshi. Koshi was just bothering me more.
On December 29 2016 07:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like that first he was calling me scum for being Koshi's scum partner and now he's saying that I'm scum because my Koshi fight seems like it's between town and scum. Those are opposite reasons but I always seem to end up the lynch over Koshi.

On December 29 2016 07:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 07:45 LightningStrike wrote:
We not lynching ExO I think he's a paranoid town. He shown this in his last game.

This again is wtf level.

He made three reads at the start of the game. ExO seems townie. Koshi is mafia. Grack is mafia for deflecting off of Koshi.
Every post he has made since then has just been reiterating the exact same reads while changing around the reasoning behind them.

I don't think he can come up with his own reads. At this point I think we just kill LS.

On December 29 2016 05:36 GlowingBear wrote:
I must say I'm disliking LS. I remember Tina saying something about him being more "mechanical" when he is Mafia?

##Vote: LS
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 23:12 GMT
#846
On December 29 2016 08:12 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 08:08 darthfoley wrote:
On December 28 2016 06:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 28 2016 04:46 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't understand how Koshi is town reading LS. He came back recently and he was still focused entirely on Koshi's first post.

He's probably the most likely mafia at this point.

You be suprised how hard I can tunnel as town.



Yet you haven't tunneled anyone.

You also added onto Koshi's case on Grack with a bad point onto a case that was already bad. Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward.

I do not like this post.

I do.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 23:14 GMT
#848
On December 29 2016 08:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 08:11 darthfoley wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:08 darthfoley wrote:
On December 28 2016 06:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 28 2016 04:46 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't understand how Koshi is town reading LS. He came back recently and he was still focused entirely on Koshi's first post.

He's probably the most likely mafia at this point.

You be suprised how hard I can tunnel as town.



Yet you haven't tunneled anyone.

You also added onto Koshi's case on Grack with a bad point onto a case that was already bad. Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward.

I might be tunneled atm but I been pushing grack all day was pushing Koshi yesterday.


Why would scum!Grack defend town!Koshi early d1?

Easy town credit especially that early.

But what about all of the other people that also defended Koshi?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 28 2016 23:15 GMT
#852
On December 29 2016 08:14 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 08:12 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:12 disformation wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:08 darthfoley wrote:
On December 28 2016 06:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 28 2016 04:46 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't understand how Koshi is town reading LS. He came back recently and he was still focused entirely on Koshi's first post.

He's probably the most likely mafia at this point.

You be suprised how hard I can tunnel as town.



Yet you haven't tunneled anyone.

You also added onto Koshi's case on Grack with a bad point onto a case that was already bad. Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward.

I do not like this post.

I do.

should have specified: I dont mind the first sentence. I really do not like the second.

I liked all of it.
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