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I think I may be warming up to Dis a little.
@Chez I wish we got to see a bit more of the active involved Chez of yesteryear. I don't mind a storyteller but with a player like Chez I feel like I could read a little better with more interaction.
I guess that is a two way street though. So: /inthrgamewithchez
I'm still surprised to see you voted for Koshi. I remember you've gone out of the way to defend "Inspector Koshi" before,
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On December 30 2016 03:45 disformation wrote:BTDTI think I'll ignore the confirm/forget whatever thing. That might be true. It might not be true. It might be true and hes still scum. Whatever. Lets see what he actually posted. First "real" post: Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:21 beentheredonethat wrote: Oh c'mon. Yes, I confirmed 2 days ago. Then, I had christmas dinner with gf's family, spent a nice time with her, she went home to my place with me and we continued having a nice time. Nail me on that if you feel like it and don't believe that I genuinely forgot about this game, okay. But lynching into me is the easiest thing to do for scum at this point.
Check my last town game and check my activity level there. I can and will contribute for town in the exact same way if you give me the chance to do so.
There's no way I will catch up in the like what 30 minutes or so we have until deadline. Tictock, the whole reason behind you voting me is that my vote was randomly cast on you.I checked if there was a main wagon, there wasn't, so I voted randomly.
More important even: as there seemingly aren't any clear wagons and town feels confident in lynching into afk/lurky players, I fear that mafia is currently in the driving seat of this game. Which leads my gut to Koshi who went under the radar pretty much ALWAYS when town was on the wrong track. I correctly read him as scum once already so I guess it's worth something. Koshi has 1 filter, compared to his last town game of D1 that's horrendous. Also note Time Traveler's vote on me and keep a close look on ANYONE that voted me early as I am right now a very low hanging fruit for mafia and lazy town alike.
Well town wasnt that confident in lynching into afk. Other two points not horrible. Might be flailing to get some names out there though. Waffly waffle post on the wafflemaster: Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:24 beentheredonethat wrote: I'm right now randomly diving filters. Disformation's filter looks genuinely town but he's being wishy washy. On the other hand, that's disformation pretty much for me so that's not necessarily alignment indicative.
Thing about disfo is that from what I can see, he only comments on stuff. "I like that", "I don't like that" and so on and he's not taking any actions on his own, being lazy. Seems to be willing to go after Grackaroni but rather discusses about me? Hmm Here I am like: My D1 was pretty bad. If he was scum looking for an easy out I think it would have been easy to put out something stronger against me. Esp. since some ppl werent happy with me (but not sure if he knew that). Then he goes to look at traveler: Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:28 beentheredonethat wrote:On December 29 2016 08:26 Time Traveler wrote: Yeah, I'm unvoting BtDt. I kinda random voted him because it was mandatory and I didn't have anyone clear in mind. And I still do not who to vote. Hum. You voted me without explanation. "Random" as you say. That means you didn't have a real clue who to vote on. Then, you unvote as soon as I drop one post and say "uhhh I still dunno". That's not townie Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:29 beentheredonethat wrote: Time Traveler having two pages of filter, voting me (low hanging af) then unvoting again feels scummy as fuck #gutFeelings Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:30 beentheredonethat wrote: oh he's new (to the site?) tho from what his filter says Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:30 beentheredonethat wrote:On December 28 2016 10:45 Time Traveler wrote: We're totally not lynching Ex_O. There are much better options. But you said you do not know who to lynch. What are the better options then if it's not me? Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:38 beentheredonethat wrote:On December 29 2016 08:31 Tictock wrote: Ok I think I am back to wanting to lynch Dis and maybe Traveler.
I partially started to push BtDt just to see who jumped aboard and both of them did so without a second thought.
I'm not sure about LS, he could be scum, but I think he gets credit for pointing out a BtDt lynch gives next to no info.
I'm waffling a bit ATM deciding who I most want to lynch, kinda wanting to just go back to Dis. That's actually a good idea and I like that. I wondered why you pushed me especially since it felt like you're doing it only because I voted you. I would lynch Traveler over disfo but I'm with ExO in terms of "he's new". Also I haven't read the game so I probably should just sheep someone and stfu :/ but not that's boring. Wanting traveler over me makes sense, though i am not 100% sure I like him liking to lynch someone he is very waffly about. Then decides to go on Koshi (also votes here): Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:38 beentheredonethat wrote: 1-page-Koshi feels bad and I think he's a very good lynch. Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:45 beentheredonethat wrote:On December 29 2016 08:42 disformation wrote: man. do I really want to lynch Koshi D1? Yes. I'm confident he'll flip scum. Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:48 beentheredonethat wrote:On December 29 2016 08:43 Time Traveler wrote: BtDt, be honest, you just want to lynch me because I voted you without saying anything and caused all this mess by accident. And now you're like "OMG. THIS GUY ALMOST GOT ME KILLED. #DOWNWITHHIM No. 1. I don't want to lynch you as I have voted Koshi over you 2. I think you're new and that is why you're not really pushing anyone 3. I am really interested in your scum reads as one one hand, you said you don't know who to lynch, on the other hand you said something like "there are way better lynches than ExO_" Then he gets confused by my shitty EoD play and int ends in: Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:54 beentheredonethat wrote: Don't lynch LS over Koshi, really. That's nuts.
Also whatever disfo's doing there it's plain bullshit
##vote Koshi Id like to know why he doesnt want LS lynched. Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:58 beentheredonethat wrote:On December 29 2016 08:50 Grackaroni wrote: Killing Koshi was my primary goal for today but I don't feel all that great about the way it has happened lol. On December 29 2016 08:29 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 08:26 darthfoley wrote: Grack, ExO: what do you guys think about going Koshi? I am most comfortable with LS or Koshi ATM. I honestly think LS is the better lynch. But obviously I'm willing to switch to Koshi. So Grackaroni is lying about his motivations. So I actually like his posts on time and the grack one at the end. imo he should have gotten more worried from the grack thing at the end, but it was like 2mins to deadline, so no room to do anything anyway. Not sure where that confidence on Koshi came from, I think that comes from the "meta" observation in his first post. He also was on koshi fairly early. Dunno for some reason I am getting a town vibe here. I'd like him to explain why he was really against a LS lynch at the time. Don't think this is particularly scummy. Looks more like wrong town.
Actually rereading some of these posts I'm not sure how BtDt managed to put some of this stuff together in the short time he was in the game. Like I was around at the same time trying to look at stuff and was much less sure of any of my scum reads at the time.
BtDt apparently had no problem skimming a few filters and coming to some hard conclusions in a very short span of time.
I think I would shoot BtDt over anyone if I could tonight. Maybe Slam as he still isn't quite playing the game ATM. I guess there isn't a whole lot different between Slam and Chez, but Chez at least seems to have gotten invested in his role so we might be able to read him based on his actions.
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On December 30 2016 04:27 disformation wrote: i hope chez is not a 3p recruiter. xD
i think i have 4 ppl left. gb, tt1, df and exo
ill go with exo and df next, but need a small break
Given what I know about Chez it's a toss up between Recruiter/Survivor/Traitor.
Maybe one of his seeds will grow and blossom into the truth.
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On December 30 2016 04:43 Grackaroni wrote:Ok I have read through all of the filters. LS still looks very scummy and I think it is a massive red flag that Koshi got lynched over him. I think my case on LS should have gained more traction than it did. I also think that if Koshi and LS were being viewed as equally scummy then normally the lynch would land on LS. I actually think ExO came out very townie from the lynch. He was the only person that fully took control during all of the waffling and pushed through who he wanted to be lynched, which was consistent from his earlier posts. GlowingBear has seemed pretty townie to me. However, he said that he would sheep me and never moved his vote. He loses points for that. I think that if he had moved his vote then LS would have been more likely to have been lynched. Also I may be biased because he defended me at the end of the day. I think TT looks quite bad from the lynch. He started out calling Koshi very townie but he offered no real defense of him when Chezinu and BtDt voted to lynch him. Show nested quote +On December 28 2016 15:02 Tictock wrote: I started this post over twice kus I both want to let Grack and Koshi get into it, yet I also feel like I want to weigh in.
Koshi is towny AF and Grack could easily be mafia. However, I do rather like Gracks rundowns of the game.
I'm setteling in to reread Dis now but I'd also like to point out how incredibly shit GB's last batch of posts were.
Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 07:06 Tictock wrote:On December 29 2016 06:52 Time Traveler wrote: Wait, Grack actually wants Koshi dead after defending him? da fack. Guess I'll have to re-read It's about half OMGUS based, but he doesn't like that Koshi is pushing him without interacting with him. It's a fair point honestly, I just don't want to lynch Koshi today. Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:49 Tictock wrote:On December 29 2016 08:43 Time Traveler wrote: BtDt, be honest, you just want to lynch me because I voted you without saying anything and caused all this mess by accident. And now you're like "OMG. THIS GUY ALMOST GOT ME KILLED. #DOWNWITHHIM Your vote was quite opportunistic and have not really brought any scum hunting to the table yourself. Honestly if it weren't for this being your first game you would probably be the lynch right now. That is the only thing holding me back ATM and I'm wondering if that isn't completely wrong right now. I'm also not terribly keen on D1 lynching Koshi as I don't think he has really been scummy at all. He has fooled me in the past though....bleh. Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote: Meh not sure where the vote count is at. If we are actually between LS and Koshi then I'm going with LS. He also joins in with a bunch of other people blaming me for the Koshi lynch, when I had at least made a case for voting LS over Koshi. Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:59 Tictock wrote:On December 29 2016 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 08:56 darthfoley wrote: Why is Grack not voting Koshi after getting lots of us to vote Koshi? I'm feeling nervous about how easily this lynch is happening when so many people were hard townreading Koshi when I started posting today. If Koshi flips Town you are getting scrutinized to all hell tomorrow. He did nothing to prevent the Koshi lynch. He didn't even move his vote. That's scummy. I realized I'm going to have to break this post up into many parts.
In hindsight I def should have fought people wanting to lynch Koshi. My problem was I was getting waffly and didn't have any strong scum reads so I was more invested trying to find my lynch preference than paying attention to the votes.
I actually kinda thought like you that LS had some votes on him and so my final thought when I voted was that I preferred an LS lynch to Koshi, even though I wasn't too hot about either.
I actually kinda like LS a bit more with his posts tonight but mostly that's just his tone. I probably won't seriously look at LS as scum until I see BtDt flip but that's not even a strong association imo.
EoD is hard when everyone is so all over the place and I'm not tunneled on someone.
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On December 30 2016 06:53 Grackaroni wrote: I have to speed this up faster than I would like because I have to go soon. DF said earlier that he didn't want to lynch Koshi on day 1. However, his read progression seemed natural enough to me and he's made a lot of contributions that I liked.
He's one of my top town alongside ExO.
Really?
Darth's change of heart on Koshi from "never lynch" to voting him over LS is giving me trust issues about our buddy triangle.
Even after he explained it I'm still not sure it makes sense.
However Darth also had an incredibly shit D1 as Town last I played with him (he pushed against basically everyone while we lynched mafia) and when I skimmed Dis's wall about him I felt like I agreed with Dis that the progression did make some sense.
I'll reread Darth when I have time. I would like to keep the buddies alive if possible. We gotta work on confirming ourselves as Town though, if we can turn this into an actual town circle this game will get a lot better. My plan is to make sure we lynch mafia tomorrow.
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I'm still unsure of who to Invite for my sleep over. I may just roll a couple die and see who I get.
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Yo.
I had no time to do shit over the break for this game and am at work for a decent bit longer tonight.
I've also got like 5 PMs plus all the new bills to read before I even get into reading the game proper. Apparently the hosts misinformed me regarding my role, or actively misguided me, not sure which just yet.
Super is an interesting Kill as he was not terribly active and was only pushing Darth. Must have been a respect/fear kill since Super wasn't doing much to make himself a target.
I'll get caught up and do shit when I get home.
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On January 03 2017 10:05 Grackaroni wrote:DF is having too much fun. Hit him with a punishment bill. We need to keep things balanced here.
To be fair ...
this game IS amazing.
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Ok so I reread OP and some of the Pregame and I think Shape is more into messing with us rather than outright lie so I think we should generally assume what the hosts tell us is true (even when they later take back some of what was said, or change the rules around again).
Key to this game is gunna be rolling with the punches and probably being fairly open about's going on.
I can reveal one mystery, I prevented Chez from giving Dis a seed because I didn't change my invite from Chez.
Chez must be a pretty restless sleeper because he tore the bag apart during the night as well.
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I still find BtDt's change of pace from
On December 29 2016 06:38 beentheredonethat wrote: oh shit
forgot about this game, have my gf here :<
will catch up tomorrow.
voting tictock because I have to vote
To
On December 29 2016 08:24 beentheredonethat wrote: I'm right now randomly diving filters. Disformation's filter looks genuinely town but he's being wishy washy. On the other hand, that's disformation pretty much for me so that's not necessarily alignment indicative.
Thing about disfo is that from what I can see, he only comments on stuff. "I like that", "I don't like that" and so on and he's not taking any actions on his own, being lazy. Seems to be willing to go after Grackaroni but rather discusses about me? Hmm
The change from "I've got no time and forgot this game existed" to "Fuck that I am not getting lynched, Time to read anything I can" is super dramatic.
Then posting this after the flip:
On December 29 2016 09:14 beentheredonethat wrote: okay everyone who was eager to vote me and then voted koshi instead of not-voting slam needs to explain why
also grack you're fine with a koshi train and not even trying to make the LS train happen although you'd rather have lynched him? great job
disformation lynching koshi although being wishywashy as fuck and even being a crybaby that votes himself
wow
Whole thing is just a bunch of shit putting blame on everyone.
Especially the line about people not voting Slam, when I don't see anything about Slam in any of BtDt's posts.
I think I was def onto something with this before doing something stupid and reconsidering.
##Vote: BeenThereDoneThat
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I kinda like Slam and Traveleres posts today but I prob shouldn't be swayed by silly things so easily.
Dis is looking pretty good too, sorry I kept you from getting a seed buddy.
Other people I need to reread later. We have company over and I prob will be distracted for a bit.
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Sorry I've been pretty distracted by stuff this week. I'm also just having a hard time getting back into this after a few day break.
I'll try and force myself to play a bit, or at least read a little and respond?
I doubt I'm getting into filters atm.
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On December 29 2016 21:29 Time Traveler wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 20:32 beentheredonethat wrote: Although I'm paranoid about ExO being scum because everyone townreads him. Then stop being paranoid. That makes you unable to make town circles because you'll be continously doubting everyone else. However, I'm interested on why you include ExO in your town circle after you say that he may be Mafia for "controlling" the thread. A TOWN CIRCLE IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, BRAH.
On December 29 2016 21:44 Time Traveler wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 21:39 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 20:29 beentheredonethat wrote: Also, Alakaslam disappeared, even got warned. The whole "lynch the inactive" story line that some people seem to rely on died with the Koshi flip, why is that? Note how there was no counter wagon. This thread is currently being driven by mafia. ExO is driving this thread, Tictock, even darthfoley is. So there's most likely one mafia in them. Chez doing the drive-by posting but Chezinu is pretty much unreadable to me tbh.
disformation then again claims to have a bad scum game (correct me if I'm wrong) and what he's doing right now is either a bad town game or a bad scum game so I'm perfectly fine in lynching him. Grackaroni's EoD was a joke.
btdt confirmed not caring for my alignment. i kinda hope he is just scum trying to tilt/ml me. saving grace is him admitting that grack also had a horrible eod. I think you're misrepping BtDt. I've seen people saying that and it doesn't mean that he doesn't care about your alignment. He basically hates your way of contributing.
These are the only posts from Traveler that aren't pretty throwaway today.
But even from these I have no idea how Traveler is approaching this game.
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I kinda want to give Darth and Dis a town pass today for being the main people driving the game.
Dis has been more and more townie to me as the game goes on. I'm gunna write off my D1 suspicions due to him playing in multiple games.
Darth has been a bit too whiney for info without being too sharing himself imo. Still seems like he is pretty invested in solving this game to me.
I think the trust issues in the buddy triangle are at least patched up for the moment.
I actually should reread Grack but I'm ok with the push on Slam to get a bit more out of him.
I don't want Chez nuked mostly kus he reacted pretty well to it happening but the only thing I had which might have helped has been torn asunder.
Humm I did hear a rumor about an item that seems to have power and has apparently been forgotten. I have no idea what such a trinket might do, but there is always a chance it might help.
Maybe not a rumor but more a dream as when I try to put words to it they seem to float away.
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Is GB the only person to not even post today?
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On January 04 2017 16:04 Time Traveler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2017 04:08 beentheredonethat wrote:Time Traveler - lol. On December 27 2016 20:23 Time Traveler wrote:On December 27 2016 19:59 disformation wrote:Hardclaiming 3P Planar Dragon. I can vig ppl, but need to send the hosts a case as to why the play of the person I want to vig doesnt make sense as either alignment. I win with the side that had the least amount of players that make no sense by the end of the game. If scum/town are tied I need to survive. On December 27 2016 09:16 ExO_ wrote: Hi, claiming VT please don't kill me day 1 as VT again. Three times a charm. ##vote: ExO_ How is this possible? Weren't we supposed to know when Balance Bills are happening? Plus they can only happen at the end of phases. Why is he asking that when only shortly before, this happened: + Show Spoiler [this] +On December 27 2016 10:28 Time Traveler wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2016 10:10 darthfoley wrote:On December 27 2016 10:01 Time Traveler wrote: Also, it's not true that we're all VT for sure. Hosts could already have implemented a bill which added new roles. Pretty sure that's not possible, or we'd know. "These will be added to the game when the phase ends (day/night post)" We haven't had a phase end yet, so I doubt any bill is implemented I see. I wonder if I could get punished for not being 100% aware of the Mechanics  That's like the try-hardest (most try-hard?) dumbtell if I've ever seen a dumbtell. I don't think I'm buying this "I'm so new" shit. Also, I'm still waiting for the follow-up on my question regarding On December 28 2016 10:45 Time Traveler wrote: We're totally not lynching Ex_O. There are much better options. Because I don't know the better options he's talking about. BUT apparently, I am one: On December 29 2016 07:40 Time Traveler wrote:On December 29 2016 07:39 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 07:38 Time Traveler wrote:On December 29 2016 07:34 Tictock wrote: Oh wow Ninja vote from Traveler.
Humm... Your vote system here in TL is strange as fuck. Normally we explain why we're voting for somebody here before we vote in the voting thread. Well, then I can say that I voted BtDt because #yolo. Or, not: On December 29 2016 08:26 Time Traveler wrote: Yeah, I'm unvoting BtDt. I kinda random voted him because it was mandatory and I didn't have anyone clear in mind. And I still do not who to vote. Hum. There's nothing in Time Traveler's filter that contributes to the game. Like, really nothing. No reads, no follow-ups on any questions, he's not deducing anything from whatever he's asking, he just appears to be there every now and then - full stop, that's it. Maybe I ate the whole "He's new" thing from ExO EoD1 too early. I actually don't mind being punished. It kind of adds interest to the game. Exo was not a better option because he was town-read by a lot of people and he was the one who was talking the game seriously. I voted you because It was mandatory and you: 1- Hadn't talked. 2- Were not being voted. So I just voted you because the chances of you suddenly being almost lynched were very small (and it happened, dang). But I obviously wojld prefer you than Exo. Then, you suddenly came back and started posting so I felt like huh, he deserves his chance to play.
I thought you voted BtDt kus of the push I started on him near EoD.
You actually voted him because you thought he hadn't posted?
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On January 04 2017 20:47 beentheredonethat wrote: Exo/darthfoley/tictock. There's most likely one scum between them but its hard to express why.
Let me try. D1 was driven by scum or by wrong-guessing town. No counter wagon to Koshi. Given that Koshi is a heavy weight player on both alignments, I assume that scum just laid back and was fairly okay with that lynch. Question is if scum pushed the Koshi lynch (which would point towards exo) or if the lynch just happened with scum maybe being the hammering votes (pointing towards tictock/df?)
Uhh expect I stated multiple times that I did not think Koshi was a good D1 lynch and never voted for him?
Also why do you not include Grack in this?
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A decent bit behind still but I should be around code EoD, although I have a feeling work is going to ask me to stay late.
I think I'm between Traveler and BtDt as my top lynches today. Exo looks like shit today but I'm not quite ready to flip that read just yet.
3 days off is rough in a game like this and almost everyone's activity has taken a hit. So I'm not sure that's a great metric right now.
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Though if you are Town Exo you really need to play better than claiming Town 50 times
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On January 04 2017 21:56 disformation wrote: Erm? Lynching Chez makes no sense, unless you think the nuke is fake or will be shot down. Both for which there is 0 evidence.
This is part of why I want to lynch BtDt still.
He seems to still not know what is happening in this game.
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