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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 28 2016 23:57 GMT
#969
Weird as fuck Day1.

Better than a slow wagon onto a fairly obv towny I suppose. Maybe. We will see.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 28 2016 23:59 GMT
#977
On December 29 2016 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 08:56 darthfoley wrote:
Why is Grack not voting Koshi after getting lots of us to vote Koshi?

I'm feeling nervous about how easily this lynch is happening when so many people were hard townreading Koshi when I started posting today.


If Koshi flips Town you are getting scrutinized to all hell tomorrow.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 29 2016 01:00 GMT
#1028
After the end of each Day phase, there will be a 1 hour resolution period. You are not allowed to talk in the thread during this time.

I have Heard the Words and Heeded them for the Blessings Given.

Also I totally got the role I wanted so these Hosts rock!




Anyways not surprised Koshi flipped Town.

I think we should be lynching BtDt and Dis. I'm still not sold on LS being scum.

Grack looks super shit at EoD too. I need to reread him.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 29 2016 01:01 GMT
#1029
On December 29 2016 09:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
okay everyone who was eager to vote me and then voted koshi instead of not-voting slam needs to explain why

also grack you're fine with a koshi train and not even trying to make the LS train happen although you'd rather have lynched him? great job

disformation lynching koshi although being wishywashy as fuck and even being a crybaby that votes himself

wow


Yea we shoulda lynched you.

I'm sorry Koshi.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 29 2016 01:06 GMT
#1030
On December 29 2016 09:17 disformation wrote:
also: town is pretty much fucked. =D


Yea BtDt/Dis tomorrow.

Dis why the hell did you vote Koshi after saying you didn't want to lynch him D1?

Then these doom and gloom posts and accusations right after a Town flip are scummy as shit.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 29 2016 01:11 GMT
#1032
On December 29 2016 09:27 Superbia wrote:
Gdi I shouldn't have (fake?) claimed. I'm prob the only one who can still carry. O well


Lol.

You already got yourself killed once this game Super, I'm sure it will happen again.

Also I bet everyone got some kind of role.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 29 2016 01:15 GMT
#1035
On December 29 2016 09:36 darthfoley wrote:
Let's also not forget that btdt was whiskers away from being the lynch and LS talked many of us out of it with the "no info" line.


Humm this is true.

Though this only makes LS mafia if BtDt is mafia. Also only mostly mafia.

And what the hell were you doing voting Koshi?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 29 2016 01:18 GMT
#1036
On December 29 2016 10:08 disformation wrote:
cause he had like 5 billion votes on him already and me being on an actual wagon is better for vca.

coming back to claim PR, didnt do that earlier cause I was pissed.


Yea I'm sure mafia got Roles and shit too.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 29 2016 01:29 GMT
#1043
On December 29 2016 10:25 GlowingBear wrote:
I'M A MECHA-COW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I don't know why but suddenly I have hugely jealous.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 29 2016 01:32 GMT
#1044
On December 29 2016 10:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Sorry Koshi. I should've defended you


I feel this way too, and Mecha Cow is awesome.

So where do you sit GlowinCowBear?

Do you think you sheeped the wrong horse?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 29 2016 01:34 GMT
#1045
I am super hype for this game now if people can't tell.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 29 2016 01:42 GMT
#1047
On December 29 2016 09:25 Time Traveler wrote:
I do not completely understand why we're talking.


You are allowed to talk at Night in our games.

I know you are probably lost in this game as for whatever reason you decided to play a bastard game as your first game here.

+ Show Spoiler +


But I'm sure you can find shit to talk about.

Kus if not and nobody shoots you we need to lynch you sometime.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 29 2016 01:49 GMT
#1049
On December 29 2016 02:12 darthfoley wrote:
People we shouldn't lynch today:
Koshi
GB
TT
ExO
Chez? I'm
Grack?

The problem is that my list of D1 of off limits people is quite small.

I was town reading Grack earlier, but I do need to reread his filter. Also don't necessarily trust Koshi at this point, do not sure. Either way I think there are better lynches today.

We have two people who are so sick they can't play! While that may be true, it's also such a mafia play. Especially getting sick on lynch day. Especially when they both say, "it's fine if you lynch me." I know it's WIFOMy but I kinda don't mind policy lynching people who tell me to lynch them. These would be Superbia and disformation.

Atm I also think Time Traveler is a good lynch. I don't remember him adding anything to the game-- not even trolling. Could easily be mafia

Alakaslam is also a good lynch. I hate wasting lynches on trolly people but we don't have a vigi currently and who knows what our glorious hosts may grace us with. If we do get something like a vigi, perhaps we wait on Slam.

Btdt... well, he might just get modkilled. Nothing to say about someone who hasn't posted once since confirming. Find this very odd considering you have to confirm to have the game start.


Darth, buddy, you have got to help me understand how you go from Koshi as the start of a do not lynch list to getting talked into lynching him over LS, who is not even on this list.

Especially kus most of what Koshi had posted had happened when you made this.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 29 2016 02:15 GMT
#1057
I'm looking at Gracks filter and he is super all over the place. It's really weird how he calls Koshi an easy lynch and then goes "yea I'll consolidate" after casing Koshi and being one of the main driving factors at the start of the wagon.

On December 29 2016 09:20 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 04:14 Koshi wrote:
Try your bestest Grackie. I think it is possible.

Worth for this post.


This seems overly gloaty if Grack is scum though.

I dunno I should reread Grack in more detail. I think I would still easily lynch Dis/BtDt at this point before Grack. Honestly I kinda like having Grack in the game for how active he has been.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 29 2016 02:17 GMT
#1058
On December 29 2016 11:10 Time Traveler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 10:42 Tictock wrote:
On December 29 2016 09:25 Time Traveler wrote:
I do not completely understand why we're talking.


You are allowed to talk at Night in our games.

I know you are probably lost in this game as for whatever reason you decided to play a bastard game as your first game here.

+ Show Spoiler +
https://youtu.be/0gTX2tyZUIw


But I'm sure you can find shit to talk about.

Kus if not and nobody shoots you we need to lynch you sometime.


That definitely makes me want to prove my utility.


I honestly don't give a shit about your utility. I just need some evidence you have thoughts about the game.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 29 2016 02:20 GMT
#1061
On December 29 2016 11:01 darthfoley wrote:
I tried to get people to take my Superbia and LS trains seriously but no one did so I was forced to look elsewhere.

It's true that Koshi had already posted much of his filter by then, but I hadn't really thoroughly read over Grack's response to him at that point; plus Grack's persistence against his points today swayed me.

The only reason I had him on my no lynch list was sort of a reverse policy lynch (I.e. I won't lynch Koshi on D1) but with no consolidation, a ton of afks and LS point about btdt, I thought Koshi was the best realistic lynch today


I dunno about realistic as that lynch was basically totally up in the air until the last fifteen min.

I do wish we had lynched BtDt now though.

He fought way too hard to stay in a game he had forgotten about and only cared to put a throwaway vote in.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 29 2016 02:39 GMT
#1064
I think I'm gunna put the game down for awhile.

I wound up grabbing the sleeping bag btw. I'm thinking of having a sleepover for the New Year.

I will pick the coolest person to invite near the end of night.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 29 2016 02:46 GMT
#1067
Almost forgot.

On December 29 2016 08:50 Chezinu wrote:
KOSHI SAVE THYSELF!!!


Chez how was your vote supposed to help Koshi save himself?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 29 2016 16:03 GMT
#1130
On December 29 2016 23:25 disformation wrote:
Grack:
Push/Case on Koshi during the day. (triggered by koshi scumreading grack).
Then starts on LS around ~1h prior to DL:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 07:36 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm souring on LS.

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 07:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like that first he was calling me scum for being Koshi's scum partner and now he's saying that I'm scum because my Koshi fight seems like it's between town and scum. Those are opposite reasons but I always seem to end up the lynch over Koshi.

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 07:43 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 29 2016 07:40 darthfoley wrote:
I still find LS's Koshi v Grack analysis very very troubling and i'm nervous about it

On December 28 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
I too think Grack is potential mafia too due to how when I was hard pushing you Koshi earlier he kept trying to steer it away to Slam who we both know is harder to read based on pure pushing.


this post man??? Grack did a better job of pointing out the inconsistencies it assumes, but c'mon like what

What bothers me more is that while I think that's an acceptable post to see from LS, I can't see how Koshi would be able to call that post excellent.

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 07:47 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 29 2016 07:45 LightningStrike wrote:
We not lynching ExO I think he's a paranoid town. He shown this in his last game.

This again is wtf level.

He made three reads at the start of the game. ExO seems townie. Koshi is mafia. Grack is mafia for deflecting off of Koshi.
Every post he has made since then has just been reiterating the exact same reads while changing around the reasoning behind them.

I don't think he can come up with his own reads. At this point I think we just kill LS.

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 08:00 Grackaroni wrote:
Can we lynch LS? I think he's more likely to be scum than Koshi. Koshi was just bothering me more.
On December 29 2016 07:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like that first he was calling me scum for being Koshi's scum partner and now he's saying that I'm scum because my Koshi fight seems like it's between town and scum. Those are opposite reasons but I always seem to end up the lynch over Koshi.

On December 29 2016 07:47 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 29 2016 07:45 LightningStrike wrote:
We not lynching ExO I think he's a paranoid town. He shown this in his last game.

This again is wtf level.

He made three reads at the start of the game. ExO seems townie. Koshi is mafia. Grack is mafia for deflecting off of Koshi.
Every post he has made since then has just been reiterating the exact same reads while changing around the reasoning behind them.

I don't think he can come up with his own reads. At this point I think we just kill LS.

On December 29 2016 05:36 GlowingBear wrote:
I must say I'm disliking LS. I remember Tina saying something about him being more "mechanical" when he is Mafia?

##Vote: LS

Note the bolded in above post.
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 08:29 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:26 darthfoley wrote:
Grack, ExO: what do you guys think about going Koshi? I am most comfortable with LS or Koshi ATM.

I honestly think LS is the better lynch. But obviously I'm willing to switch to Koshi.

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 08:32 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:31 disformation wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:24 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:20 disformation wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:17 darthfoley wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:15 disformation wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:14 disformation wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:12 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:12 disformation wrote:
[quote]
I do not like this post.

I do.

should have specified: I dont mind the first sentence. I really do not like the second.

I should go to bed.
specifically i dislike the "Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward." because i feel it is not true at all



Yea okay you've now used three posts to tell us you don't like it. Why is it not true? Who/what has he pushed that have been original points?

On December 27 2016 12:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I going to put a vote on Koshi for right now because his opening was pure shit and not like any town opening I remember him doing.
##Vote: Koshi

On December 27 2016 12:15 LightningStrike wrote:
I also really liking ExO already too he trying to push a town agenda and get this game rolling off the bat.

On December 27 2016 14:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Tbh Grack's defense of Koshi is a little bit strange can't remember if he did the same thing regarding me in my very first game together. Anyways I think we should leave Slam alone and see what he does because one of the ways Geript had a good read on to Slam is if Slam does his own thing which would mean he would be town so I rather see what he does later.

On December 28 2016 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 28 2016 03:45 disformation wrote:
I like GB.
I like Koshi liking GB.
I dislike Koshi liking ExO_

but tbh Im just policy voting ExO_ :D

Pretty terrible policy vote tbh. I think he's more likely town than scum at this point and we shouldn't lynch him.

On December 28 2016 10:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Nothing really was going on and post game of the other game just started.
@Darth thoughts on Koshi?

On December 28 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
I too think Grack is potential mafia too due to how when I was hard pushing you Koshi earlier he kept trying to steer it away to Slam who we both know is harder to read based on pure pushing.


Really?

The original Koshi push was a follow up of ExO's push.

There's a bunch of duplicate town reads on ExO

And then 2 posts on my Koshi post that DF (and I) already addressed.

Now here's an experiment for you. Go through my filter just starting around page 5 or 6 and make a comparison.

I dont think LS filter will ever look like one of yours regardless of alignment.
If only based on the fact that he isnt posting as much.
But I think I feel actually better not lynching you.

That's a fair point. But I've definitely had games where I've gotten strong town feelings from LS before and this just isn't one of those for me.

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 08:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Killing Koshi was my primary goal for today but I don't feel all that great about the way it has happened lol.

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:56 darthfoley wrote:
Why is Grack not voting Koshi after getting lots of us to vote Koshi?

I'm feeling nervous about how easily this lynch is happening when so many people were hard townreading Koshi when I started posting today.

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 08:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Anyway I'll consolidate.

TBH it is not as slam dunk as I did remember it.
But there are two things that stick out:
"Can we lynch LS? I think he's more likely to be scum than Koshi. Koshi was just bothering me more."
"Killing Koshi was my primary goal for today but I don't feel all that great about the way it has happened lol."

Primary goal for today doesnt sound town at all to me, but more like it was his mafia agenda for the day. And getting the guy lynched that was scumreading you, is a damn fine goal for scum.
And again if LS is more scummy, why was Koshi the primary goal? Just weird to state it like that as town.

The progression itself isnt that horrible. Picks up a bunch of points on LS, makes a small case wants him over koshi. Gets confused when suddenly everyone wants koshi. Though that confusing can him being knowing koshi will flip green and not knowing what the best position is here for him, cause that will have caught scum by surprise too.

So not as slam dunk as I thought, but it is still pretty bad.


This is not all that different than what my take-away from rereading Gracks EoD was.

I feel like a Scum!Grack would be all too happy to go back to Koshi given the investment he made in pushing him earlier in the day. Having cold feet about Koshi when he did seems more like a paranoid townie to me than mafia making their own position look shit.

@ BtDt
I think it is shit that you got super uppity and aggressive about us pushing you for clearly making no attempt to play the game. Then after the flip you've been in everyone's face placing blame.

Have you even fully read the game at this point?

Like there is just this huge disconnect between your opening post and everything after that, and it all just SCREAMS playing for survival to me.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 29 2016 16:04 GMT
#1131
I forgot I have to work today won't have as much time as I wanted to be around.
I can take that responsibility.
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