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On December 28 2016 10:52 Grackaroni wrote:Because he's been actively pushing everybody. He seems too ballsy to be mafia.
His pushes seems really forced to me, I easily do that as mafia.
Any other reason?
I'm too sleepy to keep playing. I'll reassess the game tomorrow morning
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On December 28 2016 22:17 disformation wrote: Okay ppl. Did jack on purpose so far cause I wanted to focus on the qualifier game. Was hoping to get at least some nice reactions or something.
Really surprised I dont have more votes on me. Bad news: I now have a horrible cold and feel like shit, so I have no idea if I'll be able to actually do stuff today like I planned/hoped.
If you guys want me out for that its fine.
This actually makes me want to lynch you
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I'm pretty sure he is mafia. All I've heard is that he is pushing everywhere, which seems a mafia trait for me.
I'm still waiting for reasons to why he is town to reconsider. If none is given, I'll write a case.
I am asking why he is town because I'm afraid I could be tunneled. That's why I'm giving it a pause
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On December 28 2016 04:02 Time Traveler wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2016 02:09 GlowingBear wrote:On December 28 2016 01:40 Time Traveler wrote:On December 28 2016 00:41 GlowingBear wrote:On December 28 2016 00:39 Time Traveler wrote: Your constant references to other games are making me nuts lol. Calm down, we are comparing his openers. You don't actually need to get our references  So you have any reads? For now, I'm slightly town reading the "buddy triangle" as I said I don't expect Mafia to be that obvious. In fact, I think they would try to stay away from getting involved in things like that. I am also not going to consider meta as I'm new here and I'll town read Exo as well. I like him being active and questioning most things, more than anyone else here. I'll have Koshi as null because he seems to be one of the good players here in TL Mafia so I guess he has his reasons for doing that and wouldn't be that blatantly obvious. And everyone else, null with no oppinions as nothing called my attention for now. Ok. But don't you think Exo's excessive questioning is forced? When he asks if you're smurf, and does not believe in you when you say you are not, what do you think he is trying to achieve? Do you believe that information may lead to a scum/town read? If I tell you Koshi is actually a bad player, would it change your null read on him? Nah, I don't think it's forced. I've seen a lot more people scumhunting that hard and asking QUESTIONS AFTER QUESTIONS until people started to freak out. For the smurf, I don't know. Not as if it mattered anyway, I guess he'll realise by the time goes that I'm not similar to anyone here in TL. And no, I don't believe ANYTHING related to smurf can be AI. Yeah, it would change. If he wasn't a good player I would say that he rolled mafia and he was already excusing himself for future inactivity to prevent commiting slips and such.
I must say the bolded is suspicious. Why do you think he is one of the good players? Why can't a good player do exactly what you said about a bad player?
It just... feels that you needed to comment on a hot topic without having to commit yourself to give a read on him...
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On December 28 2016 23:38 Koshi wrote: So I didn't see there was a voting thread. I even went looking for it yesterday. But I voted today. Nothing much changed. TT entered the thread and did absolutely nothing but buddy me up and waffle a bit. The most interesting thing was his role suggestion, read it three times, I don't understand it, I doubt he does. lol.
Grack dismissing my case against him like a mafia would. Taking my points super literal and then weazle himself out of them using silly argumentation. Still mafia.
Really liked the reaction from GB on disformation his post. Super townie. @GB: Do not get tunneled on ExO based on his opening and a reasoning you haven't even explained to the thread fully. He is not yet lock town, but for now he is not a correct lynch, his posting pushed the game forward by a lot, people who try to push the game forwardlook bad by default because they have to create something from nothing, most of the time you do that by posting reply bait comments, I really doubt mafia!ExO opened like he did here. You better go look for the prominent posters that are blending in doing completely nothing as town, or the afkers that are hiding their alignment. Kill those first.
Grack Slam Chez TiTr Disfo TT Superbia darth LS GB ExO
Slam and Chez are high on the lynchlist because both refuse to work with town. Easy lynches. Easy vig shots. Get rid of them.
Grack is mafia.
TiTr could already have pushed mafia agenda, has complained about things he shouldn't complain about, hasn't pushed the game further, has only 1 strong read which he adopted from thread sentiment. @TiTr, try to do things other than pretending to be one of those complaining muppets from the muppet show. You do not participate at the game unless forced.
Koshi, I was usually the player that starts thread discussion, I know where you're coming from, but I don't think it looked like he was getting behind real suspicions. It actually looked like to me that he was just trying to look contributive without actually being committed to what he was pushing
If we are not lynching him we should lynch disformation
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Or Superbia. I'd lynch Superbia
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Oh I've just read the op!!!!
Hosts, I want to be a mecha-cow and whatever powers a mecha-cow can have
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On December 29 2016 01:58 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 01:40 GlowingBear wrote:On December 28 2016 23:38 Koshi wrote: So I didn't see there was a voting thread. I even went looking for it yesterday. But I voted today. Nothing much changed. TT entered the thread and did absolutely nothing but buddy me up and waffle a bit. The most interesting thing was his role suggestion, read it three times, I don't understand it, I doubt he does. lol.
Grack dismissing my case against him like a mafia would. Taking my points super literal and then weazle himself out of them using silly argumentation. Still mafia.
Really liked the reaction from GB on disformation his post. Super townie. @GB: Do not get tunneled on ExO based on his opening and a reasoning you haven't even explained to the thread fully. He is not yet lock town, but for now he is not a correct lynch, his posting pushed the game forward by a lot, people who try to push the game forwardlook bad by default because they have to create something from nothing, most of the time you do that by posting reply bait comments, I really doubt mafia!ExO opened like he did here. You better go look for the prominent posters that are blending in doing completely nothing as town, or the afkers that are hiding their alignment. Kill those first.
Grack Slam Chez TiTr Disfo TT Superbia darth LS GB ExO
Slam and Chez are high on the lynchlist because both refuse to work with town. Easy lynches. Easy vig shots. Get rid of them.
Grack is mafia.
TiTr could already have pushed mafia agenda, has complained about things he shouldn't complain about, hasn't pushed the game further, has only 1 strong read which he adopted from thread sentiment. @TiTr, try to do things other than pretending to be one of those complaining muppets from the muppet show. You do not participate at the game unless forced.
Koshi, I was usually the player that starts thread discussion, I know where you're coming from, but I don't think it looked like he was getting behind real suspicions. It actually looked like to me that he was just trying to look contributive without actually being committed to what he was pushing If we are not lynching him we should lynch disformation GB do you believe that load of bullshit you just spouted? You think I was trying to look contributive without being committed to who I was pushing. It's day 1, the thread was dead and I did everything in my power to get people talking and I think it largely worked. Did you want me to pick 1 player and tunnel them into oblivion? Do you not want me to consider the possibility that other players might be mafia? And where were you? You didn't do anything to get the thread going. Anything you are saying about me could be applied to you twice as hard. Really wanna vote GB now
I did exactly the opposite of pushing everywhere, how come you can say that everything I say can be said against me twice as hard? Lol
This kind of logic that makes me think you're mafia. You take a post, exaggerate it and use it to call anyone Mafia.
You know, it's really easy to call anyone mafia. Sometimes I do that as Mafia because it's very easy and people will call me town for the same bullshit for why they are calling you town.
Yes, I am considering other people being Mafia. I've already told the thread I would lynch Disformation.
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On December 29 2016 04:16 Tictock wrote: I don't think we should lynch into Koshi or Grack today as they could both be Town and I would rather see how they progress through the game then lynch one of them D1.
GB's more recent posts feel a bit better to me but he is still in a very narrow focus on Exo. Combined with his generic opening (he always opens like that, but usually with more WIFOM if he is Town to get reactions) I'm thinking this could be a mafiabear.
Dis is kinda stepping it up a bit today but am thus far not modivated to move my vote. I only got the fleeting sense of Town!Dis in one post, though I was apparently correct that he was phoning it in a bit due to the other game. Still very possibly mafia.
Chez and Slam are coinflips right now. I actually have Town leaning gut reads on them ATM but I have no idea how to explain those.
Darth is my top Town today kus he has multiple times posted basically the same thought process I've had about things and is just generally playing the game.
Everyone else I need to reread, and should prob reread GB as well.
Hopefully BtDt gets replaced.
Why do you think I'm Mafia?
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On December 29 2016 05:06 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2016 01:58 ExO_ wrote:On December 29 2016 01:40 GlowingBear wrote:On December 28 2016 23:38 Koshi wrote: So I didn't see there was a voting thread. I even went looking for it yesterday. But I voted today. Nothing much changed. TT entered the thread and did absolutely nothing but buddy me up and waffle a bit. The most interesting thing was his role suggestion, read it three times, I don't understand it, I doubt he does. lol.
Grack dismissing my case against him like a mafia would. Taking my points super literal and then weazle himself out of them using silly argumentation. Still mafia.
Really liked the reaction from GB on disformation his post. Super townie. @GB: Do not get tunneled on ExO based on his opening and a reasoning you haven't even explained to the thread fully. He is not yet lock town, but for now he is not a correct lynch, his posting pushed the game forward by a lot, people who try to push the game forwardlook bad by default because they have to create something from nothing, most of the time you do that by posting reply bait comments, I really doubt mafia!ExO opened like he did here. You better go look for the prominent posters that are blending in doing completely nothing as town, or the afkers that are hiding their alignment. Kill those first.
Grack Slam Chez TiTr Disfo TT Superbia darth LS GB ExO
Slam and Chez are high on the lynchlist because both refuse to work with town. Easy lynches. Easy vig shots. Get rid of them.
Grack is mafia.
TiTr could already have pushed mafia agenda, has complained about things he shouldn't complain about, hasn't pushed the game further, has only 1 strong read which he adopted from thread sentiment. @TiTr, try to do things other than pretending to be one of those complaining muppets from the muppet show. You do not participate at the game unless forced.
Koshi, I was usually the player that starts thread discussion, I know where you're coming from, but I don't think it looked like he was getting behind real suspicions. It actually looked like to me that he was just trying to look contributive without actually being committed to what he was pushing If we are not lynching him we should lynch disformation GB do you believe that load of bullshit you just spouted? You think I was trying to look contributive without being committed to who I was pushing. It's day 1, the thread was dead and I did everything in my power to get people talking and I think it largely worked. Did you want me to pick 1 player and tunnel them into oblivion? Do you not want me to consider the possibility that other players might be mafia? And where were you? You didn't do anything to get the thread going. Anything you are saying about me could be applied to you twice as hard. Really wanna vote GB now I did exactly the opposite of pushing everywhere, how come you can say that everything I say can be said against me twice as hard? Lol This kind of logic that makes me think you're mafia. You take a post, exaggerate it and use it to call anyone Mafia. You know, it's really easy to call anyone mafia. Sometimes I do that as Mafia because it's very easy and people will call me town for the same bullshit for why they are calling you town. Yes, I am considering other people being Mafia. I've already told the thread I would lynch Disformation. You're misrepresenting what I said (or are too stupid to comprehend it). I never said you were pushing everywhere, I implied the opposite. You accused me of trying to look contributive without contributing. I've contributed at least twice the amount you have. I got in and drove up a dead thread, while you sat around and did nothing.
That's not the heart of the things I'm accusing you.
You've pushed silly things, like, for example, forcing time traveler to reveal himself if he is a smurf. This is a thing that doesn't matter in any way. When he said he wasn't a smurf but a new player you kept pushing him saying you don't believe him lol. This kind of push is just apparently contributive, but it actually does nothing because him being s smurf or not being a smurf tells nothing about his alignment. And that's what I saw you doing.
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> "Anything you said about me could be applying twice as hard" > I said you were pushing everywhere > I'm clearly focused on pushing you > Therefore the first statement isn't true
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On December 29 2016 05:13 disformation wrote: Bad news: I am back meaning you will have to read more of my posts.
did a peak at TT2. Just overall not much to go on tbh. Slightly better than Slam or Chez.
I am going to put my vote on Slam for now. Hope he comes back with a good post or something.
And what happens if he comes back? You'll change your vote?
Who do you think is scum?
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On December 29 2016 05:13 GlowingBear wrote:> "Anything you said about me could be applied to you twice as hard" > I said you were pushing everywhere > I'm clearly focused on pushing you > Therefore the first statement isn't true 
Fixed
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I've reread Superbia and I don't want to lynch him today anymore
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People, we are running out of time and we need to decide the lynch or Mafia will probably have this today.
Let's make a list of 3 people you want to lynch today?
Mine, in order:
1) Disformation 2) Exo 3) Time Traveler
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On December 29 2016 05:19 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 05:14 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2016 05:13 disformation wrote: Bad news: I am back meaning you will have to read more of my posts.
did a peak at TT2. Just overall not much to go on tbh. Slightly better than Slam or Chez.
I am going to put my vote on Slam for now. Hope he comes back with a good post or something. And what happens if he comes back? You'll change your vote? Who do you think is scum? Just played with Slam in a game that finished yesterday, where he was able to post very towny posts. So far there was 0 of that. So if he comes back and posts rubbish ill want to lynch him, if he does a good post Ill vote someone else. easy. not sure tbh. I am not feeling too hot with grack. do not want to lynch into: darthfoley, koshi, you tt1 is okay. then we have like slam and chez and tt2. who all are super null. i know chez can be like this as town. slam i know can post a lot better (see above). new guy is new guy and hasnt posted enough to make me think new scum or new town. grack is a scum lean, as posted earlier.
Here is what I don't understand, disfo:
You have grack as a scum lean and slam as null, but I don't see you pushing grack and then you vote slam?
I mean, you're voting someone because he is absent of townie posts over someone who has scummy posts (in your POV)? Why?
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On December 29 2016 05:20 GlowingBear wrote: People, we are running out of time and we need to decide the lynch or Mafia will probably have this today.
Let's make a list of 3 people you want to lynch today?
Mine, in order:
1) Disformation 2) Exo 3) Time Traveler
We could all make this list to see if we agree about a player
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On December 29 2016 05:23 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 05:12 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2016 05:06 ExO_ wrote:On December 29 2016 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2016 01:58 ExO_ wrote:On December 29 2016 01:40 GlowingBear wrote:On December 28 2016 23:38 Koshi wrote: So I didn't see there was a voting thread. I even went looking for it yesterday. But I voted today. Nothing much changed. TT entered the thread and did absolutely nothing but buddy me up and waffle a bit. The most interesting thing was his role suggestion, read it three times, I don't understand it, I doubt he does. lol.
Grack dismissing my case against him like a mafia would. Taking my points super literal and then weazle himself out of them using silly argumentation. Still mafia.
Really liked the reaction from GB on disformation his post. Super townie. @GB: Do not get tunneled on ExO based on his opening and a reasoning you haven't even explained to the thread fully. He is not yet lock town, but for now he is not a correct lynch, his posting pushed the game forward by a lot, people who try to push the game forwardlook bad by default because they have to create something from nothing, most of the time you do that by posting reply bait comments, I really doubt mafia!ExO opened like he did here. You better go look for the prominent posters that are blending in doing completely nothing as town, or the afkers that are hiding their alignment. Kill those first.
Grack Slam Chez TiTr Disfo TT Superbia darth LS GB ExO
Slam and Chez are high on the lynchlist because both refuse to work with town. Easy lynches. Easy vig shots. Get rid of them.
Grack is mafia.
TiTr could already have pushed mafia agenda, has complained about things he shouldn't complain about, hasn't pushed the game further, has only 1 strong read which he adopted from thread sentiment. @TiTr, try to do things other than pretending to be one of those complaining muppets from the muppet show. You do not participate at the game unless forced.
Koshi, I was usually the player that starts thread discussion, I know where you're coming from, but I don't think it looked like he was getting behind real suspicions. It actually looked like to me that he was just trying to look contributive without actually being committed to what he was pushing If we are not lynching him we should lynch disformation GB do you believe that load of bullshit you just spouted? You think I was trying to look contributive without being committed to who I was pushing. It's day 1, the thread was dead and I did everything in my power to get people talking and I think it largely worked. Did you want me to pick 1 player and tunnel them into oblivion? Do you not want me to consider the possibility that other players might be mafia? And where were you? You didn't do anything to get the thread going. Anything you are saying about me could be applied to you twice as hard. Really wanna vote GB now I did exactly the opposite of pushing everywhere, how come you can say that everything I say can be said against me twice as hard? Lol This kind of logic that makes me think you're mafia. You take a post, exaggerate it and use it to call anyone Mafia. You know, it's really easy to call anyone mafia. Sometimes I do that as Mafia because it's very easy and people will call me town for the same bullshit for why they are calling you town. Yes, I am considering other people being Mafia. I've already told the thread I would lynch Disformation. You're misrepresenting what I said (or are too stupid to comprehend it). I never said you were pushing everywhere, I implied the opposite. You accused me of trying to look contributive without contributing. I've contributed at least twice the amount you have. I got in and drove up a dead thread, while you sat around and did nothing. That's not the heart of the things I'm accusing you. You've pushed silly things, like, for example, forcing time traveler to reveal himself if he is a smurf. This is a thing that doesn't matter in any way. When he said he wasn't a smurf but a new player you kept pushing him saying you don't believe him lol. This kind of push is just apparently contributive, but it actually does nothing because him being s smurf or not being a smurf tells nothing about his alignment. And that's what I saw you doing. Most of ExO's posts were from the early game. It's not really a fair comparison.
Then answer me: if he was someone really interested to get the game going, why having a burst of pressure early game but then not being pushy by the end of the day?
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On December 29 2016 05:25 disformation wrote:tbh it is an ass read, but I dont think scum would propose a game like: Show nested quote +On December 28 2016 04:39 Superbia wrote:Let's spice this up. I have a proposition mods. Flip your almighty coin: Heads—Kill a person of my choice. Tails—Kill me. to the hosts. :p also made me laugh
Scum would, but that's not the reason why I'm unsure about lynching him, brb
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On December 28 2016 03:37 Superbia wrote: Actually I retract calling darth cool. His read progression on TT seems pretty weird.
This is a post where it looks like he is thinking critically about the game. It gave me pause when I've read his filter.
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