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On October 22 2016 18:31 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 17:44 Holyflare wrote:On October 22 2016 17:42 Acrofales wrote:On October 22 2016 17:34 Holyflare wrote: I also kinda like hopeless a lot more after readin his night posts. Why? Isn't he just tracking claims? No? He's posted reads and tried to abuse pm timers and got annoyed with wave for hiding it and called him out. I think he should be modkilled for it because it makes him basically town and was heavily against the spirit of the game and he should know that but it's town nonetheless. You're going to have to kill him now acro. In my experience only mafia wants to modkill townies. Just saying.
Yes just like that last game where all the townies wanted towny nu to be modkilled.
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On October 22 2016 18:35 Lunaticman wrote: I'm a bit confused on how the miss lynch started. Can someone summarize how we got TickTock instead of Koshi? Who was pushing him the most etc?
It's the least confusing thing in the slightest for people that actually read the thread. I made a good case people sheeped it and he posted nothing of value.
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On October 22 2016 18:35 Holyflare wrote: Scummy:
Skynx (list post struck me as wrong but can't place finger on it) Lunaticman (crap tunnel based on nothing followed by nothing) ExO_ (why) Kurumi Vivax Koshi GlowingBear WaveofShadow
Null:
Bill Murray (said atrocious things all game but some hidden le gems)
Artanis (maybe up to scummy soon)
Btdt (artanis making me hesitant but deadline stuff was scummy)
Hamazura (need more)
Acrofales (not read at all but i don't think towny whenever read what he says)
ritoky (i think he tried to pocket me with gb/luna read but playing too stiff maybe move to scummy)
Lord Tolkien (hesitant to remove but probably should based on dmg on wave)
Tubesock (zzzz?)
HF this entire post is just undermining town authority, not one real target just suspicion on an endless merry go around. Your playing exactly like Koshi.
You also spend to much time mining credibility from other players making sure to get on their good side and playing on your reputation.
For example why are there no townies on your list? That is more important than 6 different scum reads that amount to nothing.
A more productive move would be to try to analyze how the wagon formed and why. That way we could probably see if Koshi was indeed saved by a scum mate or not.
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On October 22 2016 18:31 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 17:44 Holyflare wrote:On October 22 2016 17:42 Acrofales wrote:On October 22 2016 17:34 Holyflare wrote: I also kinda like hopeless a lot more after readin his night posts. Why? Isn't he just tracking claims? No? He's posted reads and tried to abuse pm timers and got annoyed with wave for hiding it and called him out. I think he should be modkilled for it because it makes him basically town and was heavily against the spirit of the game and he should know that but it's town nonetheless. You're going to have to kill him now acro. In my experience only mafia wants to modkill townies. Just saying. and you know, people who want to play the game instead of retarded host wifom
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on that cheery not ill be at a family thing all of today, might not be back before deadline idk really tomorrow ill also be going to le gaem day, will also take up the afternoon.
ill be back to full spam mode monday like this is my job or something
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On October 22 2016 18:39 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 18:35 Holyflare wrote: Scummy:
Skynx (list post struck me as wrong but can't place finger on it) Lunaticman (crap tunnel based on nothing followed by nothing) ExO_ (why) Kurumi Vivax Koshi GlowingBear WaveofShadow
Null:
Bill Murray (said atrocious things all game but some hidden le gems)
Artanis (maybe up to scummy soon)
Btdt (artanis making me hesitant but deadline stuff was scummy)
Hamazura (need more)
Acrofales (not read at all but i don't think towny whenever read what he says)
ritoky (i think he tried to pocket me with gb/luna read but playing too stiff maybe move to scummy)
Lord Tolkien (hesitant to remove but probably should based on dmg on wave)
Tubesock (zzzz?) HF this entire post is just undermining town authority, not one real target just suspicion on an endless merry go around. Your playing exactly like Koshi. You also spend to much time mining credibility from other players making sure to get on their good side and playing on your reputation. For example why are there no townies on your list? That is more important than 6 different scum reads that amount to nothing. A more productive move would be to try to analyze how the wagon formed and why. That way we could probably see if Koshi was indeed saved by a scum mate or not. be the change you want to see man
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On October 22 2016 12:12 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 12:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Hopeless. I have been a host, and having your game and hard work ruined because of mod confirms and shit like that SUCKS. I don't want to do it to Onegu and co. If you promise me to drop this shit I will answer you and only then. Look, I asked because I 100% believed this game would accomodate mid-phase abilities. There was already proof of host error re: my being listed twice in the lynch list. I now have damn near confirmation that there is no ability to affect the game outside of the resolution periods. Thats shitty for the hosts, but too goddamn bad, they shouldn't have said anything and stuck to their guns. It's incredibly easy for the hosts to say "whoops we fucked up" in a closed setup. But they didnt do that. I dont mean to be a dick to the hosts, I fully appreciate what you're doing to host this game for us...but the handling of my line of questioning is really subpar imo. It confirms that WoS either lied, or that the hosts fucked up. And I have no way to prove one way or the other, even if WoS is scum.
I'm still catching up but I can confirm I have an ability that can be used at anytime. But mechanics discussion don't really catch scum this early.
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On October 22 2016 18:39 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 18:35 Holyflare wrote: Scummy:
Skynx (list post struck me as wrong but can't place finger on it) Lunaticman (crap tunnel based on nothing followed by nothing) ExO_ (why) Kurumi Vivax Koshi GlowingBear WaveofShadow
Null:
Bill Murray (said atrocious things all game but some hidden le gems)
Artanis (maybe up to scummy soon)
Btdt (artanis making me hesitant but deadline stuff was scummy)
Hamazura (need more)
Acrofales (not read at all but i don't think towny whenever read what he says)
ritoky (i think he tried to pocket me with gb/luna read but playing too stiff maybe move to scummy)
Lord Tolkien (hesitant to remove but probably should based on dmg on wave)
Tubesock (zzzz?) HF this entire post is just undermining town authority, not one real target just suspicion on an endless merry go around. Your playing exactly like Koshi. You also spend to much time mining credibility from other players making sure to get on their good side and playing on your reputation. For example why are there no townies on your list? That is more important than 6 different scum reads that amount to nothing. A more productive move would be to try to analyze how the wagon formed and why. That way we could probably see if Koshi was indeed saved by a scum mate or not.
If the list only contains null and scummy the other people must have disappeared into the ether.
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I also literally just told you how the wagon formed, it was me. I also talked about btdt's actioms at deadline whicj you just undermined for no reason.
You're all talk and no substance.
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On October 22 2016 10:40 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh I get it, the ninja. Yes. Well.
Um I dunno, let's chat a while. It's how I do my best work (when I do any)
Important things to look at: is there anything to be learned from EoD stuff? Who were people on, who switched to whom, when, and why?
We should sift through that. My problem is that I believe koshi more town than mafia, so the wagons are meaningless to me. The EoD stuff is therefore useless for me to analyze. I dislike HF, lunatic and acro atm. I'd like to lynch Lunatic next, and I'd like to shoot acro most atm. Notwithstanding his rosh claim early on, he basically lied about his availability and showed up to complain about a) we didnt lynch vivax and b) kp speculation type stuff.
Please elaborate on these reads a bit, what makes you think that Koshi is town etc?
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You also spend to much time mining credibility from other players making sure to get on their good side and playing on your reputation.
I'm actually really curious for examples of this. Please do give me some.
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On October 22 2016 18:54 Holyflare wrote: I also literally just told you how the wagon formed, it was me. I also talked about btdt's actioms at deadline whicj you just undermined for no reason.
You're all talk and no substance.
Chill, maybe I was a bit vague.
I wanted you to elaborate a bit more on the "case" from your perspective and why the miss lynch was so successful. So I can analyze if you are indeed town or not.
For example you look extremely scummy for saving Koshi and miss lynching. I also find it disturbing that even though you haven't contributed with anything productive for the town expect a miss lynch you still seem to want to be the town leader.
Everything I have seen from you points to you being mafia, especially from a meta perspective.
The only thing I find a bit lenient is that town tends to make more mistakes than mafia so that's nice I suppose.
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Posts by Wave that i like:
On October 21 2016 05:10 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 04:39 Lunaticman wrote:On October 21 2016 03:33 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:22 Dandel Ion wrote: apparantly you're not the only one
at this point i'd be happy just finding out what his posts mean Well it relates to Lunatic in some way right? Lunatic's filter is very scummy. Also ritoky is definitely mafia. Yeh, pmtc or whatever his name is pretty on point. Lunatic's read on koshi was after everyone else started calling out koshi. Lunatic's other reads are one liners that are throwaway comments despite making a post that only important things should be posted. Then he calls me town and mafia like to do that. Stop sheeping and undermining me, I was meta reading Koshi independently from anyone, in fact bt was sheeping my read not the other way around. HF is obviously trying to make me look scum. Obviously
On October 21 2016 10:27 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 10:16 Bill Murray wrote:On October 21 2016 09:22 WaveofShadow wrote: If you're referring to the plan to stack KP, I still think that needs to happen, and I will push for it as best I can. I think the worry about a potential PGO/bus driver/whatever/etc is silly.
In fact, I'm going to propose three town!KP targets right now that I suggest everyone with KP stack on (that doesn't have another ability they plan on using this phase).
Lord Tolkien sicklucker Glowingbear.
Stack your KPs on one of those three. I don't see a point in KPing the straight up non-posters because they will be replaced. What about tictock and the other one avoiding mod kill with 1 single post Ticktock is playing now. It's barely over 24h in, he didn't just 'avoid modkill.' I don't want to shoot into modkill potentials because they're more likely to be replaced this early. If it becomes a problem we can kill them going forward.
On October 21 2016 13:00 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm sorry I legitimately couldn't help it.
Let's be real for a second here. You are being asked to do anything, anything to make yourself more useful than you have been, and somehow that's just not possible for you because you're just stuck on this one thing?
It's a little ridiculous if you think about it.
Face the fact that you're not getting what you want, and move on. I'm more than willing to have a little chat, but not for much longer 'cause its getting late.
On October 22 2016 12:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Hopeless. I have been a host, and having your game and hard work ruined because of mod confirms and shit like that SUCKS. I don't want to do it to Onegu and co. If you promise me to drop this shit I will answer you and only then.
Posts by Wave that do not further town:
On October 20 2016 11:37 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2016 11:34 ExO_ wrote:On October 20 2016 11:29 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm honestly baffled anyone would think I'd come out and fully claim my role what, two hours into a heavily themed game with all sorts of shit flyin' around at any given moment?
I'm stunned speechless. Silent, even. So then you were literally just trolling with: On October 20 2016 10:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Of all of the 378 heroes in this game I find it kinda funny I got this one. It's one of very few I'm actually aware exist, and it's also strangely appropriate given my name.
Some shenans defs gons be possibles this game. Keep me alive a while, k? You've contributed literally nothing to the thread then. I've noticed after this post and after me pointing out you're claiming dazzle you start throwing out all sorts of other hints towards other heroes trying to backaway from the idea that you were claiming. I think you were attempting to fake claim a doctor role. And instead of trying to have a discussion with me you just keep posting trolly stuff. My conclusion from this is you are probably scum trying to fake claim, to what end though I'm not sure I don't want to have a conversation with you. ![[image loading]](https://67.media.tumblr.com/6f3f63d45462aa8129b372b38c0410e3/tumblr_n3hntvKkCm1sa9du0o1_500.gif)
On October 20 2016 13:10 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2016 13:02 Lord Tolkien wrote: Right so, people who I haven't played with and thus don't want to bother with learning to read:
1 Tictock 5 Skynx 8 beentheredonethat 9 ExO_ 10 Lunaticman 11 HamazuraXTakitsubo 12 Tubesock 16 Eversince 17 ptmc 18 Kurumiz
Please lynch someone from this list pls. My name is WaveofShadow, and I approve this message.
On October 21 2016 02:35 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 02:06 Holyflare wrote: Wave do you think my summation of your play is wrong? You've not really done anything. I never suggested it was wrong. Is there a problem?
On October 21 2016 05:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Part of me wishes I had enough time to attempt to care more about this game and attempt to take control of things because there is zero direction in this thread
And then I remember I've played like 2 games in 2 years for very good reason
Carry on everybody
On October 21 2016 05:28 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 05:26 beentheredonethat wrote:On October 21 2016 05:19 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 21 2016 05:14 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 05:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Part of me wishes I had enough time to attempt to care more about this game and attempt to take control of things because there is zero direction in this thread
And then I remember I've played like 2 games in 2 years for very good reason
Carry on everybody If you had the will to direct the thread to look more closely at say....4 people, at a glance who would those 4 people be? Hey HF, is this a scum post? Could you just answer it? This feels like you're scum, knowing that ritoky and HF are town, and you want to start a fire. Ugh this is so baaaaad Stop making posts like this
On October 21 2016 05:39 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 05:36 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 05:19 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 21 2016 05:14 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 05:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Part of me wishes I had enough time to attempt to care more about this game and attempt to take control of things because there is zero direction in this thread
And then I remember I've played like 2 games in 2 years for very good reason
Carry on everybody If you had the will to direct the thread to look more closely at say....4 people, at a glance who would those 4 people be? Hey HF, is this a scum post? I don't indulge crappy games. Ritoky drops townreads has no real drive to lynch people properly, hedges at every point and asks questions with no real follow up and doesn't seemingly care about answers. No gifs still either. Lynch plz. And yet a call to engage a seemingly disinterested waveofshadow to pay attention to the game? Fuck your meta right in the ear, good sir, because for now I'm not voting him. Will you be around later? Like...3h ish? I want to engage with someone fun.
On October 21 2016 06:15 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 05:49 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 05:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 21 2016 05:36 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 05:19 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 21 2016 05:14 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 05:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Part of me wishes I had enough time to attempt to care more about this game and attempt to take control of things because there is zero direction in this thread
And then I remember I've played like 2 games in 2 years for very good reason
Carry on everybody If you had the will to direct the thread to look more closely at say....4 people, at a glance who would those 4 people be? Hey HF, is this a scum post? I don't indulge crappy games. Ritoky drops townreads has no real drive to lynch people properly, hedges at every point and asks questions with no real follow up and doesn't seemingly care about answers. No gifs still either. Lynch plz. And yet a call to engage a seemingly disinterested waveofshadow to pay attention to the game? Fuck your meta right in the ear, good sir, because for now I'm not voting him. Will you be around later? Like...3h ish? I want to engage with someone fun. It's 90% in game posts wtf are you talking about? Aren't you calling him scum based on how different from usual his gifs and tryahrdiness and shit is? Or am I misunderstanding? Also Kurumi why am I a cow now and not a king? Can I be the cow king? Mooooooooooo
Posts by Wave that i have reasons to scum-read him for:
On October 21 2016 12:27 WaveofShadow wrote: Also why is pmtc's vote still on me? Where has he even been? Did he park his vote at an opportune time and leave? gotta check
Why are you that afraid of a vote?
On October 21 2016 20:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Lynch the above
I post a (imo decent) reads list that also explains my vote on you further, why is this the reaction?
On October 21 2016 21:00 WaveofShadow wrote: Lol ptmc you should count your scum team there
This looks like tmi to me, but even if not, why limit my scum leans to the (presumed) amount of scum in the game?
On October 22 2016 09:41 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm cool to lynch vivax and/or koshi tomorrow, but at some point I guess I'll come up with some ideas of my own maybe?
So now all your previous ideas are wrong? What happened to LT and GB?
On October 22 2016 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh I get it, the ninja. Yes. Well.
Um I dunno, let's chat a while. It's how I do my best work (when I do any)
Important things to look at: is there anything to be learned from EoD stuff? Who were people on, who switched to whom, when, and why?
We should sift through that.
Apparently it's not because of what they did EoD?
On October 22 2016 10:43 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 10:40 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 22 2016 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh I get it, the ninja. Yes. Well.
Um I dunno, let's chat a while. It's how I do my best work (when I do any)
Important things to look at: is there anything to be learned from EoD stuff? Who were people on, who switched to whom, when, and why?
We should sift through that. My problem is that I believe koshi more town than mafia, so the wagons are meaningless to me. The EoD stuff is therefore useless for me to analyze. I dislike HF, lunatic and acro atm. I'd like to lynch Lunatic next, and I'd like to shoot acro most atm. Notwithstanding his rosh claim early on, he basically lied about his availability and showed up to complain about a) we didnt lynch vivax and b) kp speculation type stuff. Acro is at least posting readable content. I don't think it's an amazing idea to shoot into someone like that when we have Glowingbear, for example. And so what if you believe koshi is more town than mafia? Do you believe Vivax is scum? If so you should probably be interested in how his train got derailed. If you think everyone under pressure was town in some way, then maybe it's in your best interested to see who spread their votes around? Gonna read Acro.
And GB is back on the menu. What about LT?
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I didn't save koshi at all. I made a case on a compelling target, I gave him a chance to save himself multiple times and said that koshi would be the backup wagon. He didn't wrote anything compelling (he didn't even say he had a cop check.....) so I didn't switch.
I find it hilarious that you're suspicious of me for meta but then say it's suspicious i want to be the leader. All I do in this game is post what i think and make cases, i haven't even really been at the forefront of it and if anything I'm more lazy/subdued than normal.
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On October 22 2016 19:07 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 18:54 Holyflare wrote: I also literally just told you how the wagon formed, it was me. I also talked about btdt's actioms at deadline whicj you just undermined for no reason.
You're all talk and no substance. Chill, maybe I was a bit vague. I wanted you to elaborate a bit more on the "case" from your perspective and why the miss lynch was so successful. So I can analyze if you are indeed town or not. For example you look extremely scummy for saving Koshi and miss lynching. I also find it disturbing that even though you haven't contributed with anything productive for the town expect a miss lynch you still seem to want to be the town leader. Everything I have seen from you points to you being mafia, especially from a meta perspective. The only thing I find a bit lenient is that town tends to make more mistakes than mafia so that's nice I suppose.
I am also extremely extremely confused how these two bolded things go together.
A) you haven't even read the deadline because you haven't got a single clue how ticktock got lynched yet you're saying I'm scummy for not lynching koshi
How on earth would you know these things without reading deadline and if you did read deadline you're asking pointless questions for the sake of it.
B) you call me potentially TOWN for being wrong
Wtf is it am I mafia for being wrong or town for being wrong??
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On October 22 2016 19:13 Holyflare wrote: I didn't save koshi at all. I made a case on a compelling target, I gave him a chance to save himself multiple times and said that koshi would be the backup wagon. He didn't wrote anything compelling (he didn't even say he had a cop check.....) so I didn't switch.
I find it hilarious that you're suspicious of me for meta but then say it's suspicious i want to be the leader. All I do in this game is post what i think and make cases, i haven't even really been at the forefront of it and if anything I'm more lazy/subdued than normal.
I don't like your attitude, it's like being a super power and then renouncing any responsibility. You single handedly got someone lynched day one and than your like "I haven't even really been at the forefront".
Your playing exactly like you did in the palmar/kosh/hf mafia game in my opinion.
Lynching someone for not writing anything compelling is not a good enough excuse to lynch them. That doesn't necessarily make them town or mafia.
I suppose you think Koshies defense of "I*M IMPORTANT PLAYER; PLX SAVE ME FOR MY ABILITIES" is a better defense? That just screams mafia trying to live another day.
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No, I just don't care that I mislynched him really. I made a good case and was wrong, it happens a lot. I did give him outs though because I had the potential to be wrong and people often soew more at deadline.
He didn't give me a reason to switfh off him and that's a highly compelling reason to stay.
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On October 22 2016 19:16 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 19:07 Lunaticman wrote:On October 22 2016 18:54 Holyflare wrote: I also literally just told you how the wagon formed, it was me. I also talked about btdt's actioms at deadline whicj you just undermined for no reason.
You're all talk and no substance. Chill, maybe I was a bit vague. I wanted you to elaborate a bit more on the "case" from your perspective and why the miss lynch was so successful. So I can analyze if you are indeed town or not. For example you look extremely scummy for saving Koshi and miss lynching. I also find it disturbing that even though you haven't contributed with anything productive for the town expect a miss lynch you still seem to want to be the town leader. Everything I have seen from you points to you being mafia, especially from a meta perspective. The only thing I find a bit lenient is that town tends to make more mistakes than mafia so that's nice I suppose. I am also extremely extremely confused how these two bolded things go together. A) you haven't even read the deadline because you haven't got a single clue how ticktock got lynched yet you're saying I'm scummy for not lynching koshi How on earth would you know these things without reading deadline and if you did read deadline you're asking pointless questions for the sake of it. B) you call me potentially TOWN for being wrong Wtf is it am I mafia for being wrong or town for being wrong??
I usually start reading from the most recent and working myself backwards, since sometimes you miss people that might otherwise have been online once you finish reading, like you might have logged off when I finished reading 15 pages.
But I just wanted you to articulate it in your own words what occurred.
I'm saying I think you look like a mafia, but it is possible that you are not a mafia. I mean how often is the day 1 lynch ever going to hit a mafia?
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I still don't understand how the TT lynch happened. Especially because it seems like iamp (prob town) and DI (prob town) were on it early and pushing it without a critical thought in their mind. Like... when I left the Vivax train was slowly gathering steam. He came in, made 2 shitty posts, one of which about how scummy TT looked, and fucked off again, and presto, everybody was aboard the TT train. Like, really bizarre.
Going shopping. Will read more later
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