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On October 24 2016 10:00 Lord Tolkien wrote:
1) I would really like it if we could find a way to confirm BTDT as town, despite his flagrant filter padding. That would certainly make this game easier. The best way would be for koshi to flip scum, but he is claiming the ability to double lynch, which basically confirms him town unless we don't get a double lynch. But then again, why the would he claim the ability to double lynch when there's obviously a mafia roleblock going around. That's actually a stupid thing to do even if you're under pressure from KP, it mildly makes sense given death will cancel the ability out (because it would probably fall under "other"), but actually. This is retarded and we likely have 0 way to verify because he'll never get it off.
So Koshi, please explain your double lynch more thoroughly and tell us why you'd claim it like this or die. Today, preferably. Because it makes no sense.
2) The complete lack of defense or attempt to deflect off of Vivax at all is mildly disconcerting. Plus he's on track to be modkilled D2 so...I'm not sold on the lynch anymore.
3) I'm going to assume Dandel is Schrodinger's scummer, since I obv. cannot read him from the 1 game i played with him.
4) Is HxT just confused noob town or mafia using noob shield. idk, could just kill him today instead of Vivax because he's using noob shield excuse, and if he actually flips scum I can confirm BTDT. But then again he might also be modkilled and replaced so argh.
5) So GB. Why haven't you done anything if you aren't scum. You're always low-key when scum and super-active as town, so tell me. Why shouldn't we lynch you today?
6) Fun fact, I get unblockable/unredirectable KP with my basic attacks now. coo'.
7) The fuck is with this 3p meepo claim. It mildly makes sense, but when 1 meepo dies all meepos die. But then again they decided to classify my hero as an offlaner, lul, so. I'll rule it plausible.
8) SL claims BS. Hrm. Hmmmmmm. What town role does checking HP even serve for town as opposed to mafia, who are better able to coordinate KP to kill off town.
9) I will reverse my call to kill Kurumi for today. Mostly because I don't trust wave still and mostly because I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in re. to time constraints. Even if all he's promising to do is give fucking lists.
10) meh, I like iamp, but then again I know he's not posting mostly because we're playing DotA.
I'm off to play DotA, but I'm prob going to give NocturneMage a read tonight to figure out why the fuck mafia killed him tonight. Might've been rolechecked D1 but eh, think it's probably his filter.
1) I would really like it if we could find a way to confirm BTDT as town, despite his flagrant filter padding. That would certainly make this game easier. The best way would be for koshi to flip scum, but he is claiming the ability to double lynch, which basically confirms him town unless we don't get a double lynch. But then again, why the would he claim the ability to double lynch when there's obviously a mafia roleblock going around. That's actually a stupid thing to do even if you're under pressure from KP, it mildly makes sense given death will cancel the ability out (because it would probably fall under "other"), but actually. This is retarded and we likely have 0 way to verify because he'll never get it off.
So Koshi, please explain your double lynch more thoroughly and tell us why you'd claim it like this or die. Today, preferably. Because it makes no sense.
2) The complete lack of defense or attempt to deflect off of Vivax at all is mildly disconcerting. Plus he's on track to be modkilled D2 so...I'm not sold on the lynch anymore.
3) I'm going to assume Dandel is Schrodinger's scummer, since I obv. cannot read him from the 1 game i played with him.
4) Is HxT just confused noob town or mafia using noob shield. idk, could just kill him today instead of Vivax because he's using noob shield excuse, and if he actually flips scum I can confirm BTDT. But then again he might also be modkilled and replaced so argh.
5) So GB. Why haven't you done anything if you aren't scum. You're always low-key when scum and super-active as town, so tell me. Why shouldn't we lynch you today?
6) Fun fact, I get unblockable/unredirectable KP with my basic attacks now. coo'.
7) The fuck is with this 3p meepo claim. It mildly makes sense, but when 1 meepo dies all meepos die. But then again they decided to classify my hero as an offlaner, lul, so. I'll rule it plausible.
8) SL claims BS. Hrm. Hmmmmmm. What town role does checking HP even serve for town as opposed to mafia, who are better able to coordinate KP to kill off town.
9) I will reverse my call to kill Kurumi for today. Mostly because I don't trust wave still and mostly because I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in re. to time constraints. Even if all he's promising to do is give fucking lists.
10) meh, I like iamp, but then again I know he's not posting mostly because we're playing DotA.
I'm off to play DotA, but I'm prob going to give NocturneMage a read tonight to figure out why the fuck mafia killed him tonight. Might've been rolechecked D1 but eh, think it's probably his filter.
This is just a terrible post all around. Just check the bolds: He defends Vivax, suggesting a possible modkill which is just horrible. He suggest going after another afker is even more shittier. Attacks GB for no activity (oh the irony). Where is an opinion on guys that are highly sr'd such as Koshi,Lunatic and me?
I mean my push on him from the start has been shitty because there is not something apparent. However he fits the mafia agenda, I can no longer keep him in the soft scumlean pile any longer cuz i have few reasons. He has been trolling and laying low since the start, judging by the chaotic town environment so far it'd make sense for some mafia members to just keep afk. This guy could easily be one of them, he's literally avoiding any hard contribution, hasn't done one bit of scumhunting. Just trying to stay alive really.
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My scumread earlier wasn't based on solid stuff, it was quite shitty I know. This guy has just improved tho, he's not the same person he was early D1.
He's literally the only one talking sense on mechanics. Vivax is a guaranteed lynch, just keep enough on him and pressure someone else is quite valuable as proved on Lunatic reactions later on.
His points are all valid here. Thats one important thing about not being mafia: mafia has to jump on wrong conclusions to lynch town but they have to make up reasons for that cuz they know the information. HF and NM kills do indicate Koshi, Vivax, Lunatic and me. The whole post just adds up, I'm town but i played bad D1 so sr'ing me would make sense in that regard, rest are mafia anyways.
I mean actually just read his this and previous page in filters, there is no way this guy is mafia he's clearly trying to solve the game.
On October 24 2016 06:30 Tubesock wrote:
I don't understand. I guess I can see have some townies coordinate to kill koshi (but then mafia can protect so...) but I don't see a problem with lynching Vivax and having a secondary lynch just in case he's telling the truth. If he's not, then what did town lose? I'm having trouble seeing the downside.
I don't understand. I guess I can see have some townies coordinate to kill koshi (but then mafia can protect so...) but I don't see a problem with lynching Vivax and having a secondary lynch just in case he's telling the truth. If he's not, then what did town lose? I'm having trouble seeing the downside.
He's literally the only one talking sense on mechanics. Vivax is a guaranteed lynch, just keep enough on him and pressure someone else is quite valuable as proved on Lunatic reactions later on.
On October 24 2016 06:37 Tubesock wrote:
My scum list is scummiest to least:
Vivax, Skynx, Koshi
Hamaztubo, Lord Tolkien
Ritoky, GlowingBear
Sicklucker
My biggest problem with this is they are all lurkers. Rereading Acrofales, Dandel Ion, iamperfection I just can't see how they could be mafia. Statistically though, it's improbable that mafia are all lurkers.
I think everyone in the game would kill HF if they were mafia, so it's not really informative that HF scummed: Vivax, Skynx and Koshi (also Art, beenthere,Lunat, ExO, Kurumi, GB, WoS). But if they are mafia then it would be double motivation to kill HF. Koshi already claimed hitting him.
NocturneMage was clearly tryhard so that's a good reason to kill him too. He also scummed Koshi, Skynx and Vivax. Along with Lunatic and was suspicious of Kurumi, GB, TL, ExO, Bill, Hazmatubo.
The kills also implicate Kurumi, ExO and GB. I eliminated kurumi and ExO but don't really remember why. HF was warming up to GB.
So, anyone want to talk about LT, Ritoky, or GlowingBear? I think Hazmatubo will be replaced, and I think Sicklucker will be figured out a little bit better later. (I'm right about Siclucker 50% of the time 70% of the time)
My scum list is scummiest to least:
Vivax, Skynx, Koshi
Hamaztubo, Lord Tolkien
Ritoky, GlowingBear
Sicklucker
My biggest problem with this is they are all lurkers. Rereading Acrofales, Dandel Ion, iamperfection I just can't see how they could be mafia. Statistically though, it's improbable that mafia are all lurkers.
I think everyone in the game would kill HF if they were mafia, so it's not really informative that HF scummed: Vivax, Skynx and Koshi (also Art, beenthere,Lunat, ExO, Kurumi, GB, WoS). But if they are mafia then it would be double motivation to kill HF. Koshi already claimed hitting him.
NocturneMage was clearly tryhard so that's a good reason to kill him too. He also scummed Koshi, Skynx and Vivax. Along with Lunatic and was suspicious of Kurumi, GB, TL, ExO, Bill, Hazmatubo.
The kills also implicate Kurumi, ExO and GB. I eliminated kurumi and ExO but don't really remember why. HF was warming up to GB.
So, anyone want to talk about LT, Ritoky, or GlowingBear? I think Hazmatubo will be replaced, and I think Sicklucker will be figured out a little bit better later. (I'm right about Siclucker 50% of the time 70% of the time)
His points are all valid here. Thats one important thing about not being mafia: mafia has to jump on wrong conclusions to lynch town but they have to make up reasons for that cuz they know the information. HF and NM kills do indicate Koshi, Vivax, Lunatic and me. The whole post just adds up, I'm town but i played bad D1 so sr'ing me would make sense in that regard, rest are mafia anyways.
I mean actually just read his this and previous page in filters, there is no way this guy is mafia he's clearly trying to solve the game.
