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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 03:20 GMT
#1084
On October 21 2016 11:59 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 11:53 Acrofales wrote:
On October 21 2016 11:51 iamperfection wrote:
On October 21 2016 11:49 Acrofales wrote:
It's 4:30 AM and I'm awake because bed bugs wanted to eat me. I am angry and a bit delirious. Who wants to chat.

If tictock's stream of consciousness is real, he feels townie. Still deciding if real or clever scum-ploy.

post your spreadsheet

Is that allowed? I thought that got forbidden after Chrono trigger mafia.

do what i did

I have a list post. It's still mostly up to date.

I'd be happy with lynching any of the following:

Lunaticman
Glowingbear
Hazura Tako bell
Tubesock

All for being useless lurkers.

Would also lynch

Koshi: abrasive, but useless. No reads of his own. No pressure
Ptmc: blending
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 03:21 GMT
#1085
Lord Tolkien: useless, but no little M, because I sympathize with his list.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 03:24 GMT
#1087
On October 21 2016 12:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
In other news, this post scares me.
Show nested quote +
In regards to the whole WoS claiming thing... idk it all feels overblown to me. I think he started making the other "claims" kinda as a joke after Exo made his entrance. I guess it's possible he's scum, but I'm not really seeing it.


Only person who basically (mostly) nailed exactly what I did and I don't like how nobody but him seemed to pick up on it and he does so with relative ease.

Actually I'm not sure if that says more about Exo than him tbh.

I should probably go back and read iamps diarrhea explosion list


Also Acro you have bedbugs?
My brother had those. He left half his stuff in a bag in the garage for months and wouldnt go get it

Yeah. We moved into this flat before we realized it was infested. Moving out next week and we'll get the exterminator to spray out shit with poison, but we are also afraid of taking them with us. They are a fucking plague
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 03:25 GMT
#1088
On October 21 2016 12:23 iamperfection wrote:
do you think im right about exo?

No. I read ExO_ as a green around the ears green guy.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 03:29 GMT
#1092
On October 21 2016 12:23 iamperfection wrote:
do you think im right about exo?

Are you stumbling over his preemptive excuse for afk? Don't really see a problem with the heads up. Which reminds me: post the stream so I can watch some Civ6. Please show some immortal+ AI so I can decide whether to buy!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 03:33 GMT
#1099
On October 21 2016 12:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On October 21 2016 12:25 Acrofales wrote:
On October 21 2016 12:23 iamperfection wrote:
do you think im right about exo?

No. I read ExO_ as a green around the ears green guy.

So what about the others I just mentioned?
They're all acting similarly in that way.

Not really. I agree lunatic, hamazuyuykatobi are useless lurkers.

Btdt is ineffectively tunneling koshi, but he's posting a lot, and not really trying to blend. Not getting clear scum vibes for now.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 03:34 GMT
#1101
On October 21 2016 12:30 iamperfection wrote:
would you quote the fucking name you fuck

Fairly certain that's ptmc he quotes. I remember reading that and thinking "yuck".
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 03:42 GMT
#1108
On October 21 2016 12:29 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 12:25 Acrofales wrote:
On October 21 2016 12:23 iamperfection wrote:
do you think im right about exo?

No. I read ExO_ as a green around the ears green guy.

because you dont think scum come in when they see a crumb like that... but scum also like to hop on possible mistakes by town and make big deals about them then they really are

Yeah. I commented on my feels about that a couple of pages of my filter back. Just not getting that vibe.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 03:45 GMT
#1111
On October 21 2016 12:38 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 12:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
And thoughts on ptmc now?


And exo, take a hint

I think he wants you to maybe be useful and stop focusing on me for absolutely nothing

just a thought

you know

a little advice


Can we just clear it up then, why did you open the way you did? Was there a reason for fake claiming a protective role or what? Don't just be hostile and dismissive towards me, work with me a bit

He already claimed he didn't crumb Dazzle. So whatever he was hinting at, your assumptions are wrong about what he was claiming and why he was claiming it. He also gave his reasons for claiming, which don't make a lot of sense to me, but ppl do nonsensical shit all the time. So let's climb out of the tunnel on that one post? Has WoS done anything else that you think makes him mafia? How bout other people?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 08:16 GMT
#1190
Good morning. I crashed and am now awake and heading to work. Rather than pick the usual suspects, I am focusing on my acquaintances: and H1 was null in my sheet, so I opened that filter up. I think there's a good chance he's the best chance we have so far at lynching scum d1, and here's why:
He has done nothing of consequence. Scum H1 is a worse lurker than town H1, and the lurk is pretty bad in this one.

On October 20 2016 09:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 09:36 Bill Murray wrote:
Yeah well it's early not everyone has posted

aww so you mean i could have just lurked and never posted and I'd have won the game?! well shit....but what about ritoky tho? pretend i said "bill" instead of "lamp" in one of my posts asking about him if that helps.

Looks like a scum slip. Town doesn't win the game ever by lurking until lylo. Let's kill him. Not just because of this, but because his entire filter is a big pile of trash.

Here's another gem:
On October 20 2016 10:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 10:50 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 10:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 20 2016 10:46 ExO_ wrote:
Hello all. I hate day 1 but I'll be here. I'm ready for all the baseless analysis that always goes on. I have not really read the thread yet, but the first thing I notice is:

On October 20 2016 10:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Of all of the 378 heroes in this game I find it kinda funny I got this one. It's one of very few I'm actually aware exist, and it's also strangely appropriate given my name.

Some shenans defs gons be possibles this game. Keep me alive a while, k?


For those that aren't aware he's referencing the hero dazzle, who has an ability called shadow wave. Dazzle also has an ability called shadow grave, which prevents people from dying. So to anybody who's vaguely familiar with dota, he's basically coming out immediately and claiming some form of doctor.

I don't think the doc should come in and announce themselves right away. This looks hella scummy to me.

Oh the irony


What do you mean exactly?

The part where you publicly outed the "doctor". This is a heavily themed and power-heavy game btw.


Except that he didn't publicly out the doctor. Relying on scum being stupid and ignorant is never going to be a winning strategy, so this is just throwing shade.

After that he flip-flops on ExO_ a bit before he backpedals and soft-coaches ExO_. He then claims and fucks off for 20hrs. His re-entry is to do nothing and promise to play today.

There's a chance this is all just uncertain townie trying to figure it out, but it just doesn't feel that way to me. Add that to the lurk and I really want to murder H1. Let's do it!

##vote: hopeless1der
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 08:20 GMT
#1192
@WoS: I think ptmc is a good lynch too, but h1 is better. Let's do this!

@ritoky: gogo all aboard the h1 train to scumville central!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 08:25 GMT
#1195
On October 21 2016 17:18 ritoky wrote:
What is the scumslip?


On October 20 2016 09:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 09:36 Bill Murray wrote:
Yeah well it's early not everyone has posted

aww so you mean i could have just lurked and never posted and I'd have won the game?! well shit....but what about ritoky tho? pretend i said "bill" instead of "lamp" in one of my posts asking about him if that helps.

The bold bit. Town doesn't win by avoiding getting lynched, that be scum that can win that way. Town can be NK'd, or worse, left alive as that one scummy town lurker for the easy lylo mislynch.

It's not evidence of scum on its own, as H1 is responding sarcastically to BM's flippant ignoring of the non-posters. But it is another drop in the bucket of of his scummy play style.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 08:44 GMT
#1198
On October 21 2016 17:29 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 17:25 Acrofales wrote:
On October 21 2016 17:18 ritoky wrote:
What is the scumslip?


On October 20 2016 09:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 20 2016 09:36 Bill Murray wrote:
Yeah well it's early not everyone has posted

aww so you mean i could have just lurked and never posted and I'd have won the game?! well shit....but what about ritoky tho? pretend i said "bill" instead of "lamp" in one of my posts asking about him if that helps.

The bold bit. Town doesn't win by avoiding getting lynched, that be scum that can win that way. Town can be NK'd, or worse, left alive as that one scummy town lurker for the easy lylo mislynch.

It's not evidence of scum on its own, as H1 is responding sarcastically to BM's flippant ignoring of the non-posters. But it is another drop in the bucket of of his scummy play style.


..........That is so far from what I would qualify as a scum slip....


Actually there's precedent. I thought I remembered that, and I die. From the caverns of time, I bring you the first time I caught H1 with his hand in the cookie jar:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16808209

Note the first part? A similarly innocuous, yet very telling look into the mind of a scummer. Let's nail this scumbag!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 08:46 GMT
#1200
EBWOP: I did
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 09:00 GMT
#1206
On October 21 2016 17:55 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 17:23 Tictock wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:34 ritoky wrote:
town is something like:
ritoky
holyflare
iamp
btdt
exo
ptmc
kurumi
hopeless
dandel
wos


I really dislike this list...

Putting yourself on top is such a dick move. Also you put almost everyone I'm considering to be scum atm in this list.

And clearly missed some obv town.


Also, the bolded alone might make TT mafia.


Nice OMGUS you got there.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 09:12 GMT
#1210
On October 21 2016 18:07 ritoky wrote:
So why are 2 of you here but neither said shit about my cases.

Because you wrote a page of text to say they are useless lurkers. Something WoS, I, and most of the rest of the thread had concluded pages and pages ago.

See here:
On October 21 2016 01:53 Acrofales wrote:
List post!

Heading for modkill:
Rels
Vivax (policy lynch anyway!)
Eversince

Not liking:
Skynx (overaggressive and useless)
Tubesock (sorta present, but useless lurking)
ptmc (see above)
Glowingbear (useless)
Koshi (scumvibe from posts #429, #541. Oddly defensive and useless about his reads in other posts)

On the fence:
WoS (playing weird, no substance, but in the spotlight)
iamperfection (fishing, improved later)
btdt (too much thread police, do like some of his posts)

Town:
DI (is reading filters and having astute observations about them)
ExO_ (tryhard newbie town)
Kurumi (get a good vibe)

No opinion so far:
the rest


and here:
On October 21 2016 12:20 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 11:59 iamperfection wrote:
On October 21 2016 11:53 Acrofales wrote:
On October 21 2016 11:51 iamperfection wrote:
On October 21 2016 11:49 Acrofales wrote:
It's 4:30 AM and I'm awake because bed bugs wanted to eat me. I am angry and a bit delirious. Who wants to chat.

If tictock's stream of consciousness is real, he feels townie. Still deciding if real or clever scum-ploy.

post your spreadsheet

Is that allowed? I thought that got forbidden after Chrono trigger mafia.

do what i did

I have a list post. It's still mostly up to date.

I'd be happy with lynching any of the following:

Lunaticman
Glowingbear
Hazura Tako bell
Tubesock

All for being useless lurkers.

Would also lynch

Koshi: abrasive, but useless. No reads of his own. No pressure
Ptmc: blending


There's definitely scum hiding in that list of loonie, gb, hazmat and tubesock. We can now add Vivax to that list, who I will happily lynch now that he won't be modkilled (/sadface).
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 10:18 GMT
#1217
On October 21 2016 19:16 Dandel Ion wrote:
sup ill actually try to read the 12 pages or so im behind on but if anybody distracts me from that i'll townread them for preserving my sanity.

so like
feel free

Meh, last 12 pages are just me being sleep deprived. Lynch H1der.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 11:45 GMT
#1245
On October 21 2016 20:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
skynx, i just dunno man

he blatantly kind-of-soft-defends koshi, and it actually looks shitty enough that i think he's serious about it
i dont like that he thinks iamps filter has nothing
i dont like that his problem with tubesocks reads are that they "come out of nowhere" (#871 cant link deal w/ it), and not the content (i remind that two of the three were essentially 'exo for what other people said' and 'wave for tone'), or even the fact that they're just TRs.
i dont mind the LT read actually
i dont like the thread policing, but maybe thats meta nowadays, lots of newbies i dont reckognize do it so w/e take it or leave it.

just post way more so i can make up my mind kthx

Oh man. You see, lurking works. I totally forgot that shit was in the game. Add him to the list of loonie, gb, hazbro, vivax and tubesock. Man, town lurkies need to step it up, because all of those look like shit atm, and they can't all be scum. Right?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 11:48 GMT
#1247
On October 21 2016 20:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 08:58 Hopeless1der wrote:
can someone explain scum!koshi meta, or point me to which games I ought to be concerned with?

Palmar Themed Game
And then the last 2 minis that weren't newbies, both hosted by btdt.

Also the last 3 games I played. Also the reason why btdt and Luna got a thing for me now.

Lets try this. Luna and btdt are both triggered by you playing the same style. How about you tell me how your style is different today, and then I will go figure out who I agree with?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
October 21 2016 13:09 GMT
#1269
On October 21 2016 20:57 ptmc wrote:
Ticktock:
+ Show Spoiler +

Hopeless' arguing feels town
Exo prob town for his interaction with Wave
Wave's arguing feels town
Iam feels scum
likes BM's post about Wave/Exo
dislikes HF
dislikes me for my post on Wave
likes Acro
dislikes Dandel's return on pg 23 as well as all his shitposting, but feels he has some good posts
says it is normal to not like sicklucker

Basically only productive posts. Town.


Rels:
has done nothing.
Lurker -> Null

Vivax:
has done nothing.
Lurker -> Null

HF:
+ Show Spoiler +
votes ritoky for meta-reads
dislikes coordinated attacks
dislikes sicklucker
dislikes koshi for only town-reads and then going afk
wary of wave, since he is only coasting
dislikes the same post that ticktock likes by BM
dislikes more posts by BM, but downgrades to a maybe mafia because he could just be retarded
Thinks Skynx has a shit filter
Thinks lunatics filter is scummy
thinks i'm on point
thinks ritoky hedges a lot
dislikes that GB only placeholder-votes for ritoky
dislikes ticktock for his general style and liking BM's post

productive -> town

Skynx:
+ Show Spoiler +
Starts really weak, but then shapes up:
dislikes Tubesock and BM
dislikes LT
pressure on lurkers

still not a lot, but towny

Iamp:
+ Show Spoiler +
needs a healer
wants to coordinate
slightly town on ritoky
townreads hopeless, acro, wave, btdt
thinks acro is bad tho
thinks koshi could be town for tone
dislikes HF's lack of activity, gets in argument with Kurumi about it
dislikes Kurumis defense of HF and pushes for votes on him
agrees with HF's assessment of BM

Lists all his reads, null:
Tubesock, no interactions with the thread
Acro, now has a bad feeling about his posts
Kurumi, "nothing he does makes sense to me"
Lunaticman, "I dont fucking now"
BM, doesn't want to read his filter
Holpess, ain't doing shit, no longer tr
Ticktock, dislikes his post on BM, but waiting to see what he does
me, I voted for him and now vote for Wave because he plays sub-optimally, I might be scum
scum:
GB: scum, doesn't do anything
LT, lurker with only trash posts
Skynx: doesn't try to lynch mafia
Exo: unnatural tone, only talks about Wave, vote on Dandel
lurker:
Eversince, Vivax, Rels

Votes Exo, direkting KP towards Lurkers or GB

Wave calls iamp out for not having LT in his list, copies the same reason as he had in his list again
Tries to get Exo out of his tunnel

good read-progression, solid reads imo. town.

Sicklucker:
+ Show Spoiler +
claims Bloodseeker
wants coordination
HF leans town
Acro is mafia (soul reading)
dislikes GB
not sold wave is town
iamp is town, because he townread sl and hf
now does not want to stack kp

unsure -> null

btdt:
+ Show Spoiler +
Exo's post on Wave feels towny
Dandel is only posting shit, votes him
likes acros, dislikes Lunatics vote (disinterest or scummy)
Koshi is wishy-washy, might be scum
tries to keep the thread clean, towny tone
scumleans dandel, but will not push him atm
starts to push koshi instead
votes koshi

list: Lynch Koshi, Lunatic, Wave, Policy
Maybe Dandel

calls Koshi scum for still only being reactive
Sees even dandel trying to solve the game, but not koshi
dislikes sicklucker
dislikes iamp: not much content, soft koshi defense
dandel sucks again
sticks on Lunatic as well, no longer wants Wave dead, Iamp instead.
Says BM's weird posts fit his meta
back to disliking Wave for dodging questions

very productive, sticks to his reads -> town

Exo:
+ Show Spoiler +
Calls out Wave for (fake) claiming Dazzle
dislikes the way Wave follows up on his claim
Dislikes how Dandel clutters the thread, changes vote to dandel
slight town lean on ritoky

not a lot of variance in his filter, but I like that he sticks with his read. -> town lean

Lunatic:
+ Show Spoiler +
Koshi is "obviously" scum
does not want to clutter the thread
btdt gets a tone town read
not sure on HF
gets sr by HF, now HF is scum for defending Koshi

I wanted to sr him, but he makes good sense in his defense and provided arguments for his reads -> town lean

Hamazura:
+ Show Spoiler +
Dislikes Dandel for shitposting
Dislikes Sicklucker "for the reason HF mentioned"

very little productivity -> scum lean

Tubesock:
+ Show Spoiler +
Likes Acro, Exo, Wave, not sure who to lynch
dislikes Koshi, Hamazura, and vivax' inactivity
unsure on GB, doesn't see why people scumread SL while also wanting to consolidate
asks people for their reads
might end up on me, tries to decide about Koshi
hasn't had his eureka moment that gets him productive

nothing tangible in his filter -> scum lean

BM:
+ Show Spoiler +
Kurumi is trolling
shitposts for days
gut feeling on ritoky, one of him and hopeless will be mafia (but he could be wrong)
Wave is probably scum, Exo put into words what BM was thinking
dislikes Hopeless
Town: iamp, exo, ritoky, kurumi, Dandel
Scum: WoS, hopeless
Wave has provided enough to unvote
likes tubesock
likes lunatic
thinks koshi is genuine
votes HF
posts self meta as to why he is not mafia
ticktock is mafia
is fine with lynching kurumi for his weird defense of HF
likes Ticktock

I dislike the self-meta stuff, his read progression makes little sense to me -> likely scum

Acro:
+ Show Spoiler +
joke-votes Skynx?
votes Iamp for role-fishing
slight tr on exo, null o Wave
wants exo to stop tunneling, but wants to know why wave semi-claimed
scum vibes of koshi -> koshi is town
thread police is a role scum like to take -> btdt
calls lunatic scum for his Koshi-vote
calls HF scum for his ritoky-vote in the same vein
He can't move on his own? Has claimed roshan
unvotes iamp, because he wants to figure him out later
Playing erratic is Kurumis thing?

List: Not liking Skynx, Tubesock, me, GB, Koshi,
on the fence: Wave, iamp, btdt
Town: Damdrel, Exo, Kurumi (good vibe)

Wants to ignore BM
New list with Lunatic, GB, Hamazu, Tubesock as lynches, and Koshi and me -> Skynx missing
LT is useless but he sympathises with LT's list

rereads Helpful, and thinks he is Scum for being a useless lurker
still thinks i am a good lynch

Can you please look at BM? other than that, probably town

Koshi:
starts with a town tone, gets way worse after #493
nothing actually noteworthy in his filter -> scumlean

Eversince:
afk -> null

Kurumi:
his posts are not really helpful, and i disagree a fair bit with his lists (if i even decipher them correctly). Posts #1009 and 1012 are decent tho. -> null/scum lean

ritoky:
+ Show Spoiler +
likes dandel, dislikes hopeless because he was present and contributed nothing
exo tentatively town
Wave tentatively town
likes that hopeless digs exo out of the tunnel
also town HF, iamp, btdt (for activity), me, kurumi, dandel
GB gets a scum lean for not fighting with HF
gives two cases, for lunatic (not pushing Koshi hard enough as his scum read, his HF read is funky) and GB (no excitement)

productive -> town lean

Hopeless:
+ Show Spoiler +
omgus pushes ritoky, but puts him back to null after answers
Charge of Darkness is very close to Wave of Shadow?
dislikes Exo's push -> Vote Exo
tries to get exo out of his tunnel

little meaningful content so far -> scum lean. Said he will play properly today

Dandel:
+ Show Spoiler +
claims Techies
reads iamp town because he is funny
gets called out for shitposting by btdt
thinks exo is scum
I liked how he brought up my point on Lunatic, and the interaction we had after it
dislikes Vivax

should be town

Wave:
+ Show Spoiler +
(disregarding his "claim" post)
doubts Dandel is scum
suspicious of btdt
Acro and Kurumi are town
lot of filler
Hamazu gets townread
wants to coordinate
sicklucker reeks of scum, would lynch SL or btdt
wants to make LT squirm
scumreads me for voting for him

Still not sure about him, so my vote seems good still. What happened with SL or btdt being your lynches? -> scumlean

GB:
HF and Acro might be town
votes ritoky as placeholder

useless lurk -> scum lean

LT:
wants to lynch people he hasn't played with before
wants to kill Kurumi for emote spam

useless lurk -> scum lean


Now some of this has been outdated (started around page 61 i think), but that is where i am at right now

The good:
Seems like actual note-taking and effort went into reading the thread.

The bad:
Waffly and wishy washy. There's no reason scum can't make list posts, and simply calling half the players "scum leans" is not very useful. Then again, half the players are scummy bastards, so hard to make much else of that. Voting for WoS seems meh. We're not gonna kill WoS today, so put in some effort on finding someone else. For instance, you could join me on the H1 train to scumlandia!

The ugly:
DI claimed techies? Whut?
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