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On October 21 2016 10:30 Bill Murray wrote:
Ok wave and exo u all are both town imo what r we gonna go with ? I like ur idea wave on stacking attacks ... I already sent mine in on tictock but I want to change it now
I heard wave is a good player so im not sold hes town :D. he could just be emo as fuck tho. Everyone is so emo its hard to get good reads. Maybe I should stop trying to target mafia and target toxicity
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On October 21 2016 14:12 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 14:08 sicklucker wrote:On October 21 2016 08:48 Bill Murray wrote:
I'm gonna spend time with my gf I'll be back on around 2 hours from now so I expect to see that hf defense by then kurumi 7 straight posts inarow sicklucker style. probably town. bill you my boy? U know if u wanna see my scum game go to witchcraft where I was nervous and shit so yeah I'm your boy. We potentially have a rly strong town circle going but we need a leader type that's active as fuck ... what do you think of imperfection? Think he could fit the mold ? Just need someone calling the shots so half don't go to rosh and half to that stupid shop
hum I think your town circle wants to kill me. I dont have many town reads and the ones I had I kind of want to burn in a fire.
Theres like 0 chance town will coordinate from reading the thread. but if it happens and there not attacking me im down.
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On October 21 2016 12:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh yeah and you think sicklucker is town somehow for not caring about shit that early in the game?
Means nothing.
Even then if you were to use that point, he very obviously does care given how often he posts about being under attack (i'm not linking very well tonight but look through his filter. It's short).
Not to mention he fakeclaims shit ALL THE TIME
thats not even true I havent fakeclaimed in like 2 years on this site. Why do you have such a boner for me I was obviously having fun yesterday
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gb I claimed my hero name (not my powers) because anyone with dota lore knowledge should know that my abilitys enhance dmg done to a single target (1 player) and the reason I claimed is because I wanted us to stack kp as a consensus town.
Now I regret it because town is playing awful :D I think rng will be better
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also I should have more time to play this game acualy. The hydra game I was in looks to be coming to a quick end ( which is good since I typed in a game where most of the players have never played with me. since we all know everyone wants to murder me the first game they play with me)
But im still not a leader and I doubt people will listen to me.
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On October 21 2016 14:26 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 14:20 sicklucker wrote:
gb I claimed my hero name (not my powers) because anyone with dota lore knowledge should know that my abilitys enhance dmg done to a single target (1 player) and the reason I claimed is because I wanted us to stack kp as a consensus town.
Now I regret it because town is playing awful :D I think rng will be better You want to stack on LT?
im not sure stackings worth it unless the majority of people are down. (they are not)
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On October 21 2016 14:18 GlowingBear wrote:
SL are you my friend?
im not your enemy
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On October 21 2016 14:30 Tubesock wrote:
SL, why are you reading iamperfection town?
He townread me :D and townread hf for the same reason I do sadly
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On October 21 2016 14:32 GlowingBear wrote:
What's your hero name SL?
bloodseeker
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oh god If i die to a weird mechanic related to claims kiill gb :D
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what? hf also wants to kill me and I just called him town. plz bro
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On October 21 2016 14:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Two things:
Regardless of who came up with it, I like the KP stacking idea. It could very well be useful for scum but it's going to be useful for us too so I'm not looking too deeply at the fact that you came up with it SL, sorry. But you shouldn't be too worried anyway, which leads me to my second point:
Why are none of you voting for mtpc right now?
Seems like pretty clear scum atm.
If you guys want to shoot someone, shoot into my list. I'll even put an order of priority:
Lord Tolk >> Glowingbear >> sicklucker
SL maybe you come off the list later today. We'll see what chhhhhappens
oh would you give me the honor oh great one :D
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On October 21 2016 16:46 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 00:57 sicklucker wrote:
if you control kp you also get more days and more lynches. Its super standard I have played more themed games then everyone here probably. You share information and know whats going on rather then chaos. A fist is stronger then a finger. Of course you need good leaders and good followers. and Im definitely not the man for the job Heh, I like the analogy. I agree that stacking attacks on someone is a great strat. It's silly to assume right off that mafia have something like a Bus Driver, and this is actually a great way to find out if they do. It sounds like a great way to get some info regardless of the outcome. There is one flaw in the event of a Bus Driver though that SL is overlooking (otherwise I agree with his posts) and it's that there is nothing to prevent scum from swapping a lurker for a good town so just kus someone gets swapped doesn't 100% mean they are scum. So while there are potential downfalls I think in the long run stacking some attacks is almost always going to give town more info and will put extra pressure on lurkers/scum. I'm for it. Having said that I'm sure people will target who they please for the most part, and having everyone attack one target might be a waste. So the idea of having 3-4 people as targets is prob the way to go.
i did bring it up. its why I said we had to attack multiple targets so were more likely to hit a mafia
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yawn I probably have to decide who to attack
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On October 21 2016 17:51 Tictock wrote:
Ok got to pg 50 before I'm burning out.
Starting to think HF might have a point about Rit, that townlist post bothered me but even moreso in how he is refusing to engage HF but asking other people their opinion of HF's read.
Ptmc is seeming like the best lynch to me atm. I already noted some stuff, and the only thing he has brought to the table is a very poorly based meta-read on Lunatic.
Koshi I could go either way on, maybe even slightly scum reading at this point as he's mostly just defended himself and posted drivel.
Iam is still on my mind as well, but I kinda want to review his filter. Kurumi is kinda in the same boat because of the weird way he was defending HF when there was only one post from HF. I think there is almost for sure scum somewhere in Iam, Kurumi, HF, and Rit but it's kinda a mess.
Ignoring the non-posters (and a few super low volume posters) the people I mentioned here are who I am considering lynching atm. I'll make a better list when I'm actually caught up which should be in a couple hours.
riks list was pretty bad. kinda just listing all the big thread presences too
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On October 21 2016 20:57 ptmc wrote:Ticktock: + Show Spoiler +
Hopeless' arguing feels town
Exo prob town for his interaction with Wave
Wave's arguing feels town
Iam feels scum
likes BM's post about Wave/Exo
dislikes HF
dislikes me for my post on Wave
likes Acro
dislikes Dandel's return on pg 23 as well as all his shitposting, but feels he has some good posts
says it is normal to not like sicklucker
Basically only productive posts. Town. Rels: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null Vivax: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null HF: + Show Spoiler +votes ritoky for meta-reads
dislikes coordinated attacks
dislikes sicklucker
dislikes koshi for only town-reads and then going afk
wary of wave, since he is only coasting
dislikes the same post that ticktock likes by BM
dislikes more posts by BM, but downgrades to a maybe mafia because he could just be retarded
Thinks Skynx has a shit filter
Thinks lunatics filter is scummy
thinks i'm on point
thinks ritoky hedges a lot
dislikes that GB only placeholder-votes for ritoky
dislikes ticktock for his general style and liking BM's post
productive -> town Skynx: + Show Spoiler +Starts really weak, but then shapes up:
dislikes Tubesock and BM
dislikes LT
pressure on lurkers
still not a lot, but towny Iamp: + Show Spoiler +needs a healer
wants to coordinate
slightly town on ritoky
townreads hopeless, acro, wave, btdt
thinks acro is bad tho
thinks koshi could be town for tone
dislikes HF's lack of activity, gets in argument with Kurumi about it
dislikes Kurumis defense of HF and pushes for votes on him
agrees with HF's assessment of BM
Lists all his reads, null:
Tubesock, no interactions with the thread
Acro, now has a bad feeling about his posts
Kurumi, "nothing he does makes sense to me"
Lunaticman, "I dont fucking now"
BM, doesn't want to read his filter
Holpess, ain't doing shit, no longer tr
Ticktock, dislikes his post on BM, but waiting to see what he does
me, I voted for him and now vote for Wave because he plays sub-optimally, I might be scum
scum:
GB: scum, doesn't do anything
LT, lurker with only trash posts
Skynx: doesn't try to lynch mafia
Exo: unnatural tone, only talks about Wave, vote on Dandel
lurker:
Eversince, Vivax, Rels
Votes Exo, direkting KP towards Lurkers or GB
Wave calls iamp out for not having LT in his list, copies the same reason as he had in his list again
Tries to get Exo out of his tunnel
good read-progression, solid reads imo. town. Sicklucker: + Show Spoiler +claims Bloodseeker
wants coordination
HF leans town
Acro is mafia (soul reading)
dislikes GB
not sold wave is town
iamp is town, because he townread sl and hf
now does not want to stack kp
unsure -> null btdt: + Show Spoiler +Exo's post on Wave feels towny
Dandel is only posting shit, votes him
likes acros, dislikes Lunatics vote (disinterest or scummy)
Koshi is wishy-washy, might be scum
tries to keep the thread clean, towny tone
scumleans dandel, but will not push him atm
starts to push koshi instead
votes koshi
list: Lynch Koshi, Lunatic, Wave, Policy
Maybe Dandel
calls Koshi scum for still only being reactive
Sees even dandel trying to solve the game, but not koshi
dislikes sicklucker
dislikes iamp: not much content, soft koshi defense
dandel sucks again
sticks on Lunatic as well, no longer wants Wave dead, Iamp instead.
Says BM's weird posts fit his meta
back to disliking Wave for dodging questions
very productive, sticks to his reads -> town Exo: + Show Spoiler +Calls out Wave for (fake) claiming Dazzle
dislikes the way Wave follows up on his claim
Dislikes how Dandel clutters the thread, changes vote to dandel
slight town lean on ritoky
not a lot of variance in his filter, but I like that he sticks with his read. -> town lean Lunatic: + Show Spoiler +Koshi is "obviously" scum
does not want to clutter the thread
btdt gets a tone town read
not sure on HF
gets sr by HF, now HF is scum for defending Koshi
I wanted to sr him, but he makes good sense in his defense and provided arguments for his reads -> town lean Hamazura: + Show Spoiler +Dislikes Dandel for shitposting
Dislikes Sicklucker "for the reason HF mentioned"
very little productivity -> scum lean Tubesock: + Show Spoiler +Likes Acro, Exo, Wave, not sure who to lynch
dislikes Koshi, Hamazura, and vivax' inactivity
unsure on GB, doesn't see why people scumread SL while also wanting to consolidate
asks people for their reads
might end up on me, tries to decide about Koshi
hasn't had his eureka moment that gets him productive
nothing tangible in his filter -> scum lean BM: + Show Spoiler +Kurumi is trolling
shitposts for days
gut feeling on ritoky, one of him and hopeless will be mafia (but he could be wrong)
Wave is probably scum, Exo put into words what BM was thinking
dislikes Hopeless
Town: iamp, exo, ritoky, kurumi, Dandel
Scum: WoS, hopeless
Wave has provided enough to unvote
likes tubesock
likes lunatic
thinks koshi is genuine
votes HF
posts self meta as to why he is not mafia
ticktock is mafia
is fine with lynching kurumi for his weird defense of HF
likes Ticktock
I dislike the self-meta stuff, his read progression makes little sense to me -> likely scum Acro: + Show Spoiler +joke-votes Skynx?
votes Iamp for role-fishing
slight tr on exo, null o Wave
wants exo to stop tunneling, but wants to know why wave semi-claimed
scum vibes of koshi -> koshi is town
thread police is a role scum like to take -> btdt
calls lunatic scum for his Koshi-vote
calls HF scum for his ritoky-vote in the same vein
He can't move on his own? Has claimed roshan
unvotes iamp, because he wants to figure him out later
Playing erratic is Kurumis thing?
List: Not liking Skynx, Tubesock, me, GB, Koshi,
on the fence: Wave, iamp, btdt
Town: Damdrel, Exo, Kurumi (good vibe)
Wants to ignore BM
New list with Lunatic, GB, Hamazu, Tubesock as lynches, and Koshi and me -> Skynx missing
LT is useless but he sympathises with LT's list
rereads Helpful, and thinks he is Scum for being a useless lurker
still thinks i am a good lynch Can you please look at BM? other than that, probably town Koshi: starts with a town tone, gets way worse after #493 nothing actually noteworthy in his filter -> scumlean Eversince: afk -> null Kurumi: his posts are not really helpful, and i disagree a fair bit with his lists (if i even decipher them correctly). Posts #1009 and 1012 are decent tho. -> null/scum lean ritoky: + Show Spoiler +likes dandel, dislikes hopeless because he was present and contributed nothing
exo tentatively town
Wave tentatively town
likes that hopeless digs exo out of the tunnel
also town HF, iamp, btdt (for activity), me, kurumi, dandel
GB gets a scum lean for not fighting with HF
gives two cases, for lunatic (not pushing Koshi hard enough as his scum read, his HF read is funky) and GB (no excitement)
productive -> town lean Hopeless: + Show Spoiler +omgus pushes ritoky, but puts him back to null after answers
Charge of Darkness is very close to Wave of Shadow?
dislikes Exo's push -> Vote Exo
tries to get exo out of his tunnel
little meaningful content so far -> scum lean. Said he will play properly today Dandel: + Show Spoiler +claims Techies
reads iamp town because he is funny
gets called out for shitposting by btdt
thinks exo is scum
I liked how he brought up my point on Lunatic, and the interaction we had after it
dislikes Vivax
should be town Wave: + Show Spoiler +(disregarding his "claim" post)
doubts Dandel is scum
suspicious of btdt
Acro and Kurumi are town
lot of filler
Hamazu gets townread
wants to coordinate
sicklucker reeks of scum, would lynch SL or btdt
wants to make LT squirm
scumreads me for voting for him
Still not sure about him, so my vote seems good still. What happened with SL or btdt being your lynches? -> scumlean GB: HF and Acro might be town votes ritoky as placeholder useless lurk -> scum lean LT: wants to lynch people he hasn't played with before wants to kill Kurumi for emote spam useless lurk -> scum lean Now some of this has been outdated (started around page 61 i think), but that is where i am at right now
first game? if so I wanna town read you looks like your taking notes which is something I think I only ever did in my first game
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On October 21 2016 21:19 ptmc wrote:
This is my second game, i played in the last newbie game.
The reads for low content could easily change, if good content comes from those players. Anything specific you disagree with?
ya ok I dont get why everyone is scum reading an obv town. Like he acualy took notes doubt a first time scum is ever EVER faking that. would probably ride or die with this guy honestly
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On October 21 2016 22:09 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 20:57 ptmc wrote:Ticktock: + Show Spoiler +
Hopeless' arguing feels town
Exo prob town for his interaction with Wave
Wave's arguing feels town
Iam feels scum
likes BM's post about Wave/Exo
dislikes HF
dislikes me for my post on Wave
likes Acro
dislikes Dandel's return on pg 23 as well as all his shitposting, but feels he has some good posts
says it is normal to not like sicklucker
Basically only productive posts. Town. Rels: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null Vivax: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null HF: + Show Spoiler +votes ritoky for meta-reads
dislikes coordinated attacks
dislikes sicklucker
dislikes koshi for only town-reads and then going afk
wary of wave, since he is only coasting
dislikes the same post that ticktock likes by BM
dislikes more posts by BM, but downgrades to a maybe mafia because he could just be retarded
Thinks Skynx has a shit filter
Thinks lunatics filter is scummy
thinks i'm on point
thinks ritoky hedges a lot
dislikes that GB only placeholder-votes for ritoky
dislikes ticktock for his general style and liking BM's post
productive -> town Skynx: + Show Spoiler +Starts really weak, but then shapes up:
dislikes Tubesock and BM
dislikes LT
pressure on lurkers
still not a lot, but towny Iamp: + Show Spoiler +needs a healer
wants to coordinate
slightly town on ritoky
townreads hopeless, acro, wave, btdt
thinks acro is bad tho
thinks koshi could be town for tone
dislikes HF's lack of activity, gets in argument with Kurumi about it
dislikes Kurumis defense of HF and pushes for votes on him
agrees with HF's assessment of BM
Lists all his reads, null:
Tubesock, no interactions with the thread
Acro, now has a bad feeling about his posts
Kurumi, "nothing he does makes sense to me"
Lunaticman, "I dont fucking now"
BM, doesn't want to read his filter
Holpess, ain't doing shit, no longer tr
Ticktock, dislikes his post on BM, but waiting to see what he does
me, I voted for him and now vote for Wave because he plays sub-optimally, I might be scum
scum:
GB: scum, doesn't do anything
LT, lurker with only trash posts
Skynx: doesn't try to lynch mafia
Exo: unnatural tone, only talks about Wave, vote on Dandel
lurker:
Eversince, Vivax, Rels
Votes Exo, direkting KP towards Lurkers or GB
Wave calls iamp out for not having LT in his list, copies the same reason as he had in his list again
Tries to get Exo out of his tunnel
good read-progression, solid reads imo. town. Sicklucker: + Show Spoiler +claims Bloodseeker
wants coordination
HF leans town
Acro is mafia (soul reading)
dislikes GB
not sold wave is town
iamp is town, because he townread sl and hf
now does not want to stack kp
unsure -> null btdt: + Show Spoiler +Exo's post on Wave feels towny
Dandel is only posting shit, votes him
likes acros, dislikes Lunatics vote (disinterest or scummy)
Koshi is wishy-washy, might be scum
tries to keep the thread clean, towny tone
scumleans dandel, but will not push him atm
starts to push koshi instead
votes koshi
list: Lynch Koshi, Lunatic, Wave, Policy
Maybe Dandel
calls Koshi scum for still only being reactive
Sees even dandel trying to solve the game, but not koshi
dislikes sicklucker
dislikes iamp: not much content, soft koshi defense
dandel sucks again
sticks on Lunatic as well, no longer wants Wave dead, Iamp instead.
Says BM's weird posts fit his meta
back to disliking Wave for dodging questions
very productive, sticks to his reads -> town Exo: + Show Spoiler +Calls out Wave for (fake) claiming Dazzle
dislikes the way Wave follows up on his claim
Dislikes how Dandel clutters the thread, changes vote to dandel
slight town lean on ritoky
not a lot of variance in his filter, but I like that he sticks with his read. -> town lean Lunatic: + Show Spoiler +Koshi is "obviously" scum
does not want to clutter the thread
btdt gets a tone town read
not sure on HF
gets sr by HF, now HF is scum for defending Koshi
I wanted to sr him, but he makes good sense in his defense and provided arguments for his reads -> town lean Hamazura: + Show Spoiler +Dislikes Dandel for shitposting
Dislikes Sicklucker "for the reason HF mentioned"
very little productivity -> scum lean Tubesock: + Show Spoiler +Likes Acro, Exo, Wave, not sure who to lynch
dislikes Koshi, Hamazura, and vivax' inactivity
unsure on GB, doesn't see why people scumread SL while also wanting to consolidate
asks people for their reads
might end up on me, tries to decide about Koshi
hasn't had his eureka moment that gets him productive
nothing tangible in his filter -> scum lean BM: + Show Spoiler +Kurumi is trolling
shitposts for days
gut feeling on ritoky, one of him and hopeless will be mafia (but he could be wrong)
Wave is probably scum, Exo put into words what BM was thinking
dislikes Hopeless
Town: iamp, exo, ritoky, kurumi, Dandel
Scum: WoS, hopeless
Wave has provided enough to unvote
likes tubesock
likes lunatic
thinks koshi is genuine
votes HF
posts self meta as to why he is not mafia
ticktock is mafia
is fine with lynching kurumi for his weird defense of HF
likes Ticktock
I dislike the self-meta stuff, his read progression makes little sense to me -> likely scum Acro: + Show Spoiler +joke-votes Skynx?
votes Iamp for role-fishing
slight tr on exo, null o Wave
wants exo to stop tunneling, but wants to know why wave semi-claimed
scum vibes of koshi -> koshi is town
thread police is a role scum like to take -> btdt
calls lunatic scum for his Koshi-vote
calls HF scum for his ritoky-vote in the same vein
He can't move on his own? Has claimed roshan
unvotes iamp, because he wants to figure him out later
Playing erratic is Kurumis thing?
List: Not liking Skynx, Tubesock, me, GB, Koshi,
on the fence: Wave, iamp, btdt
Town: Damdrel, Exo, Kurumi (good vibe)
Wants to ignore BM
New list with Lunatic, GB, Hamazu, Tubesock as lynches, and Koshi and me -> Skynx missing
LT is useless but he sympathises with LT's list
rereads Helpful, and thinks he is Scum for being a useless lurker
still thinks i am a good lynch Can you please look at BM? other than that, probably town Koshi: starts with a town tone, gets way worse after #493 nothing actually noteworthy in his filter -> scumlean Eversince: afk -> null Kurumi: his posts are not really helpful, and i disagree a fair bit with his lists (if i even decipher them correctly). Posts #1009 and 1012 are decent tho. -> null/scum lean ritoky: + Show Spoiler +likes dandel, dislikes hopeless because he was present and contributed nothing
exo tentatively town
Wave tentatively town
likes that hopeless digs exo out of the tunnel
also town HF, iamp, btdt (for activity), me, kurumi, dandel
GB gets a scum lean for not fighting with HF
gives two cases, for lunatic (not pushing Koshi hard enough as his scum read, his HF read is funky) and GB (no excitement)
productive -> town lean Hopeless: + Show Spoiler +omgus pushes ritoky, but puts him back to null after answers
Charge of Darkness is very close to Wave of Shadow?
dislikes Exo's push -> Vote Exo
tries to get exo out of his tunnel
little meaningful content so far -> scum lean. Said he will play properly today Dandel: + Show Spoiler +claims Techies
reads iamp town because he is funny
gets called out for shitposting by btdt
thinks exo is scum
I liked how he brought up my point on Lunatic, and the interaction we had after it
dislikes Vivax
should be town Wave: + Show Spoiler +(disregarding his "claim" post)
doubts Dandel is scum
suspicious of btdt
Acro and Kurumi are town
lot of filler
Hamazu gets townread
wants to coordinate
sicklucker reeks of scum, would lynch SL or btdt
wants to make LT squirm
scumreads me for voting for him
Still not sure about him, so my vote seems good still. What happened with SL or btdt being your lynches? -> scumlean GB: HF and Acro might be town votes ritoky as placeholder useless lurk -> scum lean LT: wants to lynch people he hasn't played with before wants to kill Kurumi for emote spam useless lurk -> scum lean Now some of this has been outdated (started around page 61 i think), but that is where i am at right now The good: Seems like actual note-taking and effort went into reading the thread. The bad: Waffly and wishy washy. There's no reason scum can't make list posts, and simply calling half the players "scum leans" is not very useful. Then again, half the players are scummy bastards, so hard to make much else of that. Voting for WoS seems meh. We're not gonna kill WoS today, so put in some effort on finding someone else. For instance, you could join me on the H1 train to scumlandia! The ugly: DI claimed techies? Whut?
techies is third party or mafia for sure did someone really claim it? :D
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On October 21 2016 23:23 Tubesock wrote:
Vivax has done this a few times. Posts just enough to not get modkilled. Then the next game he's town he plays again.
hes also quite often slacked off as town day 1 and then stepped it up day two. I would give him a day. I have a rule where I just dont lynch him day 1 ever because hes such an obvious mafia by the end day 2. its the correct play!
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