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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 05:45 GMT
#1171
Has GB changed since I have been gone? That is not how he used to get his HF read.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 05:48 GMT
#1172
To clarify, I have been mafia with him before and in the QT he says "I am going to rumble with HF, call him mafia or disagree with him cuz that's how I normally get a read on him." I have also seen him many times as town just fight with HF even if he doesn't believe it just to get his HF read.

Passively agreeing with him seems different. Leaning toward bad different.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 08:13 GMT
#1189
HF you around?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 08:18 GMT
#1191
What is the scumslip?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 08:23 GMT
#1194
No thanks, I think I have 2 better options for lynch. Mostly trying to figure out who to attack....probably someone super disappointing like rels.

But seriously, please explain what in that quote is a scum slip and why.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 08:29 GMT
#1196
On October 21 2016 17:25 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 17:18 ritoky wrote:
What is the scumslip?


Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 09:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 20 2016 09:36 Bill Murray wrote:
Yeah well it's early not everyone has posted

aww so you mean i could have just lurked and never posted and I'd have won the game?! well shit....but what about ritoky tho? pretend i said "bill" instead of "lamp" in one of my posts asking about him if that helps.

The bold bit. Town doesn't win by avoiding getting lynched, that be scum that can win that way. Town can be NK'd, or worse, left alive as that one scummy town lurker for the easy lylo mislynch.

It's not evidence of scum on its own, as H1 is responding sarcastically to BM's flippant ignoring of the non-posters. But it is another drop in the bucket of of his scummy play style.


..........That is so far from what I would qualify as a scum slip....
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 08:42 GMT
#1197
I think the 2 best candidates for lynch who are outside of policy-sub/modkill range are GB and Lunatic.

Lunatic's case is pretty simple: I don't think he believes or cares very much about his reads. He has said Koshi is mafia since his first post for essentially being Koshi. But he hasn't made any real substantive push to try and convince people to get on board his Koshi lynch, he has just kind of left it sitting there passively. I don't even know the details of why he believes Koshi is mafia, but he says it so much in his filter that you would think he is tunneled. But then you read his filter and he doesn't seem tunneled at all, he isn't working to get people on board his target; I think he doesn't particularly care to lynch scum. There's something funky with his HF read, primarily with its basis being garbage. He town reads him, then flips basically because of omgus, then apparently wants to lynch HF but treats him like Koshi. HF not pushing back to the point of trying to lynch Luna over this hot trash read gives me some pause, but at least he called him likely mafia.

GB is a variety of things. He is overall underwhelming thus far. He didn't show any excitement I was in the game. I don't see any of his spastic town/trying to make a play town tendencies. His just agree with HF rather than try to engage him to get a read seems off and like it may come from a place of extra information. He stated a placeholder vote, when I feel like town GB would more likely use his vote as a weapon to gauge reaction rather than literally tell me he wasn't serious about his vote.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 08:53 GMT
#1203
On October 21 2016 17:44 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 17:29 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 17:25 Acrofales wrote:
On October 21 2016 17:18 ritoky wrote:
What is the scumslip?


On October 20 2016 09:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 20 2016 09:36 Bill Murray wrote:
Yeah well it's early not everyone has posted

aww so you mean i could have just lurked and never posted and I'd have won the game?! well shit....but what about ritoky tho? pretend i said "bill" instead of "lamp" in one of my posts asking about him if that helps.

The bold bit. Town doesn't win by avoiding getting lynched, that be scum that can win that way. Town can be NK'd, or worse, left alive as that one scummy town lurker for the easy lylo mislynch.

It's not evidence of scum on its own, as H1 is responding sarcastically to BM's flippant ignoring of the non-posters. But it is another drop in the bucket of of his scummy play style.


..........That is so far from what I would qualify as a scum slip....


Actually there's precedent. I thought I remembered that, and I die. From the caverns of time, I bring you the first time I caught H1 with his hand in the cookie jar:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16808209

Note the first part? A similarly innocuous, yet very telling look into the mind of a scummer. Let's nail this scumbag!


I find those not particularly comparable in the slightest. Primarily because I think 1 is intended serious and the other is intended as a joke. But also because I reject your premise that "afking to victory is exclusively a mafia trait".
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 08:55 GMT
#1204
On October 21 2016 17:23 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 05:34 ritoky wrote:
town is something like:
ritoky
holyflare
iamp
btdt
exo
ptmc
kurumi
hopeless
dandel
wos


I really dislike this list...

Putting yourself on top is such a dick move. Also you put almost everyone I'm considering to be scum atm in this list.

And clearly missed some obv town.


Also, the bolded alone might make TT mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 09:05 GMT
#1207
On October 21 2016 18:00 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 17:55 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 17:23 Tictock wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:34 ritoky wrote:
town is something like:
ritoky
holyflare
iamp
btdt
exo
ptmc
kurumi
hopeless
dandel
wos


I really dislike this list...

Putting yourself on top is such a dick move. Also you put almost everyone I'm considering to be scum atm in this list.

And clearly missed some obv town.


Also, the bolded alone might make TT mafia.


Nice OMGUS you got there.


Maybe a bit, but no sane townie thinks like that.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 09:07 GMT
#1208
So why are 2 of you here but neither said shit about my cases.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 09:17 GMT
#1212
? I did not say either was a lurker.

1 is strongly stating that Koshi and HF are mafia, then showing no initiative to attempt to lynch people he strongly believes are scum.

The other is deviating from meta and invalidating his own vote.

Those are actively scummy things that are far from "lurker"
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 19:15 GMT
#1522
On October 22 2016 03:28 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 03:13 Acrofales wrote:
On October 22 2016 03:09 Holyflare wrote:
I think Ticktock would be a great lynch.

I disagree. Why do you think TT is scum?


I don't really care if you agree or not he feels really off.

Absolutely all of his reads are arse backwards and opposite opinions to what I see when I look at those posts.

His entrance as I said before was bs and literally a waste of time and tells us how he's going to play the game instead of playing it.

He doesn't form a coherent thought process with his perpetual catching up strategy, he says things that I have pointed, out he starts to agree with me that ritoky is weird (he seems to think my ritoky read was meta even though it's all entirely in game posts aka he isn't reading or giving a shit), he sees that kurumi was hard defending me and he hasn't disliked anything I've said but he's put me in an arbitrary "there's mafia in here" list with both ritoky and kurumi.

He points out stuff that's already been talked about and realises it and says "oh i should catch up before posting" but then repeats the same things people have said all over again.

He found ritoky suspicious for putting himself at the top of a list, ritoky pointed this out and it's actually an excellent point. Nobody gets angry at that wtf.

There's an abundance of him defending fringe people, defended sicklucker, defended hopeless, defended GB. Defending gb is also another thing that doesn't make sense from his perspective, ritoky says that gb isn't pushing me and he usually does so it's scummy but tt defends gb while pushing that ritoky was scummy for not calling me out.


He wants to lynch ptmc too and i like that guy and did before it was cool and mod related.




quality post, including the bottom. am open to switching.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 19:26 GMT
#1539
it kinda pisses me off to unvote luna when he did nothing to deserve it though.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 19:46 GMT
#1561
headed to work, available via phone only, will do my best to check thread.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 20:38 GMT
#1631
On October 22 2016 05:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Let's shennanie onto HamazuraXTakitsubo (Taco Bell guy)

He scumreads Kurumi and Lunatic which at the point he does it is exactly what people currently are all about. He never followed up on Hopeless although he "gave him scum vibes". He's been doing a lot of role guessing ("TPro", "looks like a jester") which looks like a role hunting mindset. Wants to policy lynch Dandel for shitposting but in the end says he's got a "neutral" stance towards him.

Then, he scumreads sicklucker for reaons that HF brought up but also doesn't follow up. Settles down, long story short, on Kurumi and Lunatic which is boring and following thread sentiment.

He has 2 pages of filter and has voted so he's likely to not get replaced today. I think we should shennanie here.

##unvote
##vote HamazuraXTakitsubo


didn't you want a koshi and luna flip? why are you pushing some random afk lynch over 2 plausible lynches that you want.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 20:46 GMT
#1659
On October 22 2016 05:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
While we're at it, what do you guys think about the points I posted about harakiri?


he's town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 20:48 GMT
#1663
On October 22 2016 05:47 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 05:46 ritoky wrote:
On October 22 2016 05:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
While we're at it, what do you guys think about the points I posted about harakiri?


he's town.

Why


cuz i think he's the guy who suggested there's a jester in the game, which just seems to dumb to be mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 22:14 GMT
#1729
someone copy/paste the list plz and compare it with the previous one. i am not next to who i moved and attacked at all.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 22:34 GMT
#1755
I might have been roleblocked or something. I tried to move down to attack GB, but instead I went up 3 spots.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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