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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 20 2016 15:10 GMT
#706
If nobody has a better plan, can I be force staffed to position 4 by the end of the phase? I can then choose whether I hit Vivax or Holyflare. That's awesome. They'll be dead in like 10-12 phases. Promise.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 20 2016 15:19 GMT
#716
On October 21 2016 00:11 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 00:09 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 21 2016 00:03 Kurumi wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:46 Kurumi wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:42 Acrofales wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:35 Kurumi wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:33 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:32 Kurumi wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:26 iamperfection wrote:
[quote]
Why would you block it. What possible reason could you have.


I don't. You don't, so we're even.

Are you trying to trigger me. Holyflare not completely trash player excited to play pre not playing worth killing


You are picking Holyflare over Lord Tolkien or Hopeless1der or beentheredonethat? I am supposed to be the insane one.

Yes. I actually didn't mind LT's single action so far and want to see more. H1der I don't really have a read on, but he has at least been around enough to ask questions of (at one point). You can say what you like about btdt, but he's not lurking. Convince us to lynch him if you think he's scum.

Holyflare is a great target for damaging. He has one shitty post with a throwaway reason for voting. He is a better player than that.


You see nothing wrong in claiming KP and claiming your target so early? Besides it being on the wrong person.

pretty sure everyone (or at least close) has basic KP so why not?


1) I didn't know that.
2) Openly claiming KP might let Mafia protect or stack on the person KP is claimed on. If I remember the scraps of the OP I read correctly, we won't get any information in regards to that.
3) If this claim is to make Holyflare post it's dumb. He's not around. Even if he was, he would most likely ignore it. It's not newb101 who's going to get baited.

i he keeps being afk and we attempt to policy kill a town HF mafia stacking kp on him is benificial to our goals (aka they won't)
if he doesnt thats way better
if hes mafia and they protect him somehow we can just lynch him

i dont see the downside tbh

if everyone just basic attacks a different guy we'll never get enough damage together to flip a guy


Thing is I remember there being doto heroes getting stronger through killing people. No idea if items exist or how they work, but we might also donate these to Mafia. You want to lynch him - fine, but as it stands he looks like a piss poor lynch.

Iamperfection claimed he needs heals to be effective. That reeks of Abaddon or Pudge. Pudge does also get stronger from kills. So maybe don't allow Iamp to kill shit until we are surer of his alignment.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 20 2016 15:44 GMT
#731
On October 21 2016 00:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 00:19 Acrofales wrote:
On October 21 2016 00:11 Kurumi wrote:
On October 21 2016 00:09 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 21 2016 00:03 Kurumi wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:46 Kurumi wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:42 Acrofales wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:35 Kurumi wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:33 iamperfection wrote:
[quote]
Are you trying to trigger me. Holyflare not completely trash player excited to play pre not playing worth killing


You are picking Holyflare over Lord Tolkien or Hopeless1der or beentheredonethat? I am supposed to be the insane one.

Yes. I actually didn't mind LT's single action so far and want to see more. H1der I don't really have a read on, but he has at least been around enough to ask questions of (at one point). You can say what you like about btdt, but he's not lurking. Convince us to lynch him if you think he's scum.

Holyflare is a great target for damaging. He has one shitty post with a throwaway reason for voting. He is a better player than that.


You see nothing wrong in claiming KP and claiming your target so early? Besides it being on the wrong person.

pretty sure everyone (or at least close) has basic KP so why not?


1) I didn't know that.
2) Openly claiming KP might let Mafia protect or stack on the person KP is claimed on. If I remember the scraps of the OP I read correctly, we won't get any information in regards to that.
3) If this claim is to make Holyflare post it's dumb. He's not around. Even if he was, he would most likely ignore it. It's not newb101 who's going to get baited.

i he keeps being afk and we attempt to policy kill a town HF mafia stacking kp on him is benificial to our goals (aka they won't)
if he doesnt thats way better
if hes mafia and they protect him somehow we can just lynch him

i dont see the downside tbh

if everyone just basic attacks a different guy we'll never get enough damage together to flip a guy


Thing is I remember there being doto heroes getting stronger through killing people. No idea if items exist or how they work, but we might also donate these to Mafia. You want to lynch him - fine, but as it stands he looks like a piss poor lynch.

Iamperfection claimed he needs heals to be effective. That reeks of Abaddon or Pudge. Pudge does also get stronger from kills. So maybe don't allow Iamp to kill shit until we are surer of his alignment.

look
maybe
i dont know shit about doto champs so i cant speak to that

but we can potentially have enough combined dmg to vig a scummy (or at least a useless) dude every night
essentially if we do it right we get a bonus lynch per cycle
that cant be that terrible
im pretty sure it's better than some people getting some minor bonuses
im pretty sure it's worth that one time we get screwed with, we can just do it all over again

worst case we end up lynching the scummies and shooting lurkers. you'll note that this worst case is not very bad. because i dont think it is.


unless you think theres something completely crazy that could happen but i actually think this game isn't going to be too wild, that's host wifom tho


Not being able to hit anybody who isn't next to you in the player list kinda puts a damper on that.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 20 2016 16:08 GMT
#759
On October 21 2016 01:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 00:59 sicklucker wrote:
On October 21 2016 00:55 Holyflare wrote:
100% dumb.

Talk about people that are mafia and people can figure out what they want to attack themselves. You're giving mafia perfect opportunity to skate by.


We put all the kp on one person. They redirect all that kp on me. Who cares we now know hes mafia for the rest of the game and can act accordingly. If we kill a town who cares. Its a town who was not cooperative and now we are stronger. That kp would have mostly gone on other towns anyway

This post reeks of scum

Huh? Other than him having a wrong conclusion, I don't see the problem. Why would scum redirect damage onto someone who is shitty. They redirect onto strong townies they want dead.

Dealing damage into a pool is safer in terms of how they can (ab)use town damage. It is also less useful, but still more useful than everybody just hitting whoever they feel like with no accountability at all.

Moreover, a clever scumteam doesn't only redirect off themselves. They can also redirect off a poor townie to a strong one, in order to mindfuck town. I have done it myself plenty.

Now lets kill Vivax.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 20 2016 16:12 GMT
#767
On October 21 2016 01:11 Holyflare wrote:
You fucking plebs.

Redirect off a townie.
Wasted a bunch of kp/attacks/abilities.
Watchers watching wrong people.
We lynch townie.

Could be directed to pgo mafia, pgo town. We learn nothing probably mislynch 2 people in process.

Sicklucker knows this he's king of tinfoil.

He's just afk mechanic discussioned and keft no solid reads.

Probably mafia.

Drop subject.

Now. Mafia reads.

Not reading scum on ritoky. I don't see much wrong with his gifs or his posts in general. Seems pretty null so far. Now case me up! You promised!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 20 2016 16:16 GMT
#774
On October 21 2016 01:10 sicklucker wrote:
I cant acualy think of any busdriver dota 2 lore tho. I cant think of a hero that makes sense on. Dont mean there is none tho

Well, there not being any dota abilities that have obvious redirects doesn't mean they don't exist in this mafia game. Especially given the mechanics specifically mention redirects. Blademail would be a PGO not a bus driver, I'd think.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 20 2016 16:35 GMT
#787
On October 21 2016 01:30 Dandel Ion wrote:
lets talk ptmc's #544 (soz cant link atm just look it up bois it his last post)
i thought it was fine at first but i like it less and less

basically repeats btdts content with something thats not exactly relevant to the situation but that looks like it is.

Good catch. In fact, his entire filter reads like he's trying to blend in. Follows the "bandwagon" on WoS, then agrees with the pressure on lunatic. His whole filter is bland and useless. Would lynch.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 20 2016 16:40 GMT
#788
On October 20 2016 12:09 Tictock wrote:
Well I was sorta questioning if I had the energy tonight to get going on this...

Looking over my PM I can tell that I do not. Just gunna pass out and leave this for the morning.

It's morning. Tick... tock... where are you?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 20 2016 16:53 GMT
#791
List post!

Heading for modkill:
Rels
Vivax (policy lynch anyway!)
Eversince

Not liking:
Skynx (overaggressive and useless)
Tubesock (sorta present, but useless lurking)
ptmc (see above)
Glowingbear (useless)
Koshi (scumvibe from posts #429, #541. Oddly defensive and useless about his reads in other posts)

On the fence:
WoS (playing weird, no substance, but in the spotlight)
iamperfection (fishing, improved later)
btdt (too much thread police, do like some of his posts)

Town:
DI (is reading filters and having astute observations about them)
ExO_ (tryhard newbie town)
Kurumi (get a good vibe)

No opinion so far:
the rest








Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 20 2016 17:08 GMT
#797
On October 21 2016 02:04 sicklucker wrote:
im soul reading Acrofales mafia guys. Remember after you murder me

We're murdering you? It's D1 and there is literally no pressure on you. Why u martyring?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 20 2016 17:25 GMT
#801
On October 21 2016 02:20 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 02:08 Acrofales wrote:
On October 21 2016 02:04 sicklucker wrote:
im soul reading Acrofales mafia guys. Remember after you murder me

We're murdering you? It's D1 and there is literally no pressure on you. Why u martyring?


why you howling bub

It's because I lycan you.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 20 2016 17:41 GMT
#816
On October 21 2016 02:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Your post is actually very weird.

You have no scum read, just a bunch of "not liking", most of them for being useless or lurker, which doesn't mean it is scummy

Then you have a lot of people you don't have opinion on, which are lurkers and/or useless people.

How do you trace the line between the lirkers you dislike and the lurkers you don't have opinion on?

Easily. I read the thread and get thoughts about people. I also open filters and focus on them specifically.

Also, I did kinda say that, didn't I. No matter. Now you're playing, I can lynch you. Yippee!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 20 2016 17:43 GMT
#818
EBWOP: also, "not liking" is as close to a scumread as I'm going to get based on about 20 hours of game.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 20 2016 19:39 GMT
#884
On October 21 2016 03:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
im kind of curious about ritoky but that might just be off and i could be wrong. just a gut feeling something is wrong with one or two posts he made. one of him or hopeless will prob be maf - i dont think both are maf given their interactions. even i could be wrong ..i dont think i am


Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 14:18 Bill Murray wrote:
TLDR ritoki is probably town because i see ritoky + hopeless interaction as town/maf interaction and i think WoS is being mafcoached by hopeless

that leaves me here
town: bill , i am perfection, exo, ritoky, kurumi
scum: WoS, hopeless1der

i am NOT doing null this game so if my scum list exceeds 10 people or more i dont give a flying **** these are just my opinions


I was all ready to say bm kinda looked ok for the first quote after all but then he's making really weird leaps and his thoughts aren't congruent and look like setups for later.

Would probably lynch too.

BM always looks like that. He always makes bizar logic leaps that just look bad. I just ignore him on d1.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 20 2016 20:13 GMT
#910
On October 21 2016 04:56 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:44 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:43 Skynx wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:38 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:37 Skynx wrote:
LordTolkien's entry sucks so hard.


cuz?

On October 20 2016 10:38 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I vote to kill everyone who i haven't played with, and BillMurray.

all in favor?

*raises hand*

On October 20 2016 13:02 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Right so, people who I haven't played with and thus don't want to bother with learning to read:

1 Tictock
5 Skynx
8 beentheredonethat
9 ExO_
10 Lunaticman
11 HamazuraXTakitsubo
12 Tubesock
16 Eversince
17 ptmc
18 Kurumiz

Please lynch someone from this list pls.

On October 20 2016 13:03 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you aren't on this list and I haven't played with you, please let me know so I know I can lynch you today.


Its like he's trying to be Palmar and people ignore him and he just walks off.


Why does that suck though? What about it makes you think anything more than policy?

It's not about policy at all, I dunno where you got that from. He's putting himself in this almighty position by suggesting bunch of lynches out of nowhere not seemingly in a bantery manner and when he doesn't get any audience he's out of here. When I play D1 early on its fine to banter but there is a difference here, he's not saying 'hey ritoky I'm gona 100% lynch you D1", instead he's like "Alright I'm not gona read the game, here s my lynches cya kk thx".

Ignore the meta bit I suggest here but when Palmar does this shit everyone tells me to back off because he's a good player and I had to put up with that for some reason. I don't have any opinion on LT so fuck that here.


Idk, while it doesn't seem like the most pro-town perspective in the game, it is one I can understand and empathize with. As someone who doesn't play mafia anymore (and definitely is done after this game) I can sympathize with seeing a player list of half ppl you don't know and don't particularly want to get to know cuz it is irrelevant to your future. Try to solve the world you know rather than figure out a bunch of new shit.

So I guess I don't understand why his approach is specifically bad. I can understand why it qualifies him as policy lynch for inactive or not trying, but I fail to see where it is distinctly anti-town.

Agreed. I read it and agreed with the sentiment. It's not indicative of alignment, though. He's just a null lurker so far.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 20 2016 20:37 GMT
#939
On October 21 2016 05:34 ritoky wrote:
town is something like:
ritoky
holyflare
iamp
btdt
exo
ptmc
kurumi
hopeless
dandel
wos

Lol. Why are btdt, h1 and WoS in there?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 20 2016 20:49 GMT
#957
On October 21 2016 05:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
kurururu i'd like to say i agree but im not sure we'd put the same titles to some of those groups tbh

and of course that one read
you know which one

I got ninja'd. Although *that one* probably referred to someone else for us.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 20 2016 20:52 GMT
#960
On October 21 2016 05:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 05:48 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:40 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:37 Acrofales wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:34 ritoky wrote:
town is something like:
ritoky
holyflare
iamp
btdt
exo
ptmc
kurumi
hopeless
dandel
wos

Lol. Why are btdt, h1 and WoS in there?


btdt has the highest activity and town anger/tryhard

h1 cuz he sincerely told exo to get the fuck out of his tunnel...also he showed read progression on me which could have pocketed me to some degree

wos because of his flippant attitude

I like the read on me of course but what makes you so certain hopeless and Btdt are sincere?


with hopeless i see no particular scum motivation for trying to dig exo out of a tunnel. you could argue pocket, but it didn't read like that. if they're teammates he tells exo to stop tunneling in qt. if hopeless is mafia and exo is town he just let's exo tunnel away like he is prone to do and let exo bury someone or bury himself.

thats actually close to where im at on hopeless

i guess i wont lynch this guy today


The random role claim into 20hr lurk tho...
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 21 2016 02:49 GMT
#1065
It's 4:30 AM and I'm awake because bed bugs wanted to eat me. I am angry and a bit delirious. Who wants to chat.

If tictock's stream of consciousness is real, he feels townie. Still deciding if real or clever scum-ploy.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
October 21 2016 02:53 GMT
#1070
On October 21 2016 11:51 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 11:49 Acrofales wrote:
It's 4:30 AM and I'm awake because bed bugs wanted to eat me. I am angry and a bit delirious. Who wants to chat.

If tictock's stream of consciousness is real, he feels townie. Still deciding if real or clever scum-ploy.

post your spreadsheet

Is that allowed? I thought that got forbidden after Chrono trigger mafia.
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