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Christ my filter is long. If I were anywhere near good at this game I would have been killed ages ago.
Anyway:
Tictock (8); Vivax, Holyflare, iamperfection, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock, Dandel Ion, ritoky, Bill Murray, Koshi, beentheredonethat
Koshi (4): Lunaticman, beentheredonethat, Skynx, TubeSock, beentheredonethat, sicklucker
Lunaticman (1): ritoky, Koshi, HamazuraXTakitsubo, sicklucker, Skynx
Vivax (2): Tubesock, iamperfection, Hopeless1der, Koshi, Acrofales, Dandel Ion
Lord Tolkien (2): Kurumi, WaveofShadow
WaveofShadow (1): ExO_, Bill Murray, ptmc
Dandel Ion (1): beentheredonethat, ExO_
ritoky (1): Holyflare, Koshi, GlowingBear
So that was the old version. Let's see the new one:
Tictock (8); Vivax, Holyflare, iamperfection, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock, Dandel Ion, ritoky, Bill Murray, Koshi, beentheredonethat
Koshi (4): Lunaticman, beentheredonethat, Skynx, TubeSock, beentheredonethat, sicklucker
Lunaticman (1): ritoky, Koshi, HamazuraXTakitsubo, sicklucker, Skynx
Vivax (2): Tubesock, iamperfection, Hopeless1der, Koshi, Acrofales, Dandel Ion
Lord Tolkien (2): Kurumi, WaveofShadow
WaveofShadow (1): ExO_, Bill Murray, ptmc
Dandel Ion (1): beentheredonethat, ExO_
ritoky (1): Holyflare, Koshi, GlowingBear
Exo and Kurumi being scum fit the bill here still. At the very least I'd say one of them HAS to be since I can't believe 4 scum would all pile onto Tictock like that. This doesn't excuse Tubesock or sicklucker exactly I'd have to look at them closer.
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Dandel seriously needs to tell the truth about what he did though. Dandel says he moved and attacked my clone. Neither myself, nor my clones have taken damage all game. And Dandel moved to me, so clearly he wasn't roleblocked; which since then has had me really confused about his alignment. I assumed after sparring with him in thread that he had given me the sentry in that action, but then I said "why the fuck would a town give a sentry to a 3p dummy account"? And I haven't solved that yet.
So once again Dandel, you didn't do damage to my clone, so what were you doing to it?
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Vivax wrote:[/B]
Kinda tempting to lynch Koshi cause his play is really uninspired and inspiration is what town Koshi projects but I don't think I want to lynch him D1.
I'm placing my vote on TT for now. His reason to vote me feels super construed.[/QUOTE]
On October 24 2016 22:35 Vivax wrote:
The good:
1. Hopeless.
He played and actually cared. I've never seen him care this much I believe. Last time he was mafia he behaved and talked like a guy standing dazed in front of a naked specimen of his preferred gender, then fell unconscious and nobody ever heard of him since. He is completely incapable of playing as mafia.
2. Iamperfection. I honestly have no clue how he plays mafia. But I somehow always know when he's town. Maybe he just always rolls town, maybe I'm just this good. It certainly has nothing to do with the way he plays. But he's town. He's obnoxious towards suspicious people and frantically searches remote places for mafia. He has this righteous, condescending tone in his posts.
3. Artanis. He's serious. There's no playing around. It's the empire mafia criterion. He'll just fool around and joke rather than get to work this blatantly as mafia. So I'm doing this call just based on that. I don't think I've seen a single gif? Maybe he's ill, most certainly he's being a good townie boy his parents would be proud of.
4. Dandel. Don't ask me why, I don't think I have a logical reason to TR him it's just what feels right.
5. Exo. I liked how he went after Wave D1 with the bar example and shit. Very aggressive overall but I think that in that too calm town atmosphere he did something scum wouldn't have done: Stir things up.
The ugly:
1. Bill Murray. This guy can just do what the hell he wants cause nobody ever had any clue how to read him in the history of mafia. He actually can have decent reads as town and be scary as mafia. Just the type of guy you will get insane over at a situation like lylo. Good luck boys.
Kurumi: Not that ugly actually. His lists had a meaning, and he bothered to start communicating normally afterwards. He doesn't feel the urge to do that as mafia. If anything, when he's mafia he just trolls, posts gibberish and doesn't give a damn about your opinion. On the good side of ugly.
KamasutraXTacoshopu:
Dunno, really. Focuses on superficial things like a newbie would do (shitposters=mafia, helpful=town). Hasn't yet mastered the art of saying "I am". He's the descartian nightmare, but it seems like it's a sentient being. I'm going with town for his focus on superficial things however, seems natural enough.
LordTolkien:
It bothers me that his initial list are people he would lynch just cause he doesn't know them. If he knows how to read the other people, he should certainly be able to find scum among them? Seems like a minor rebuttal, but is telling for laziness and has shown that he rather would make a very shallow list. Wanting to lynch kurumi for the emotes is also very superficial. They actually meant something if he bothered to figure it out.
Later on he plays some thread police, posts some stuff related to game mechanics, talks about germans in lederhosen, puts up the lynch mob face for Koshi. Alrighty, if he's mafia he's doing splendidly. I can't tell for sure yet.
Acrofales: He's just here cause he's ugly. I'm firmly convinced he is. Actually I just don't want to read his posts too much unfounded hate, this guy is just a bully and bullies don't deserve attention, just basic attacks.
Koshi: Felt really underwhelming at the beginning. Lacked too much third person and typical strongheadedness. But I have seen Koshi being like this as town, actually. He's just not very consistent in his tone, and just activity wise I think he looks townie enough. Plus if his claim is real, a double lynch doesn't seem like a mafia ability. So I'm leaving him kinda in between. I feel like he's becoming more townie as time passes. I just wonder why he's not on a crusade against me yet. meh.
Glowingbear: Slight townlean. Why? Cause he is scared when he's mafia. He isn't scared here. He's acting like some innocent teddy bear everyone's supposed to leave alone. Zero aggression shown towards his attackers. When Palmar got him on the hook D1 in another game he lashed back out towards him, he didn't make puppy eyes and ask "why" like here. For the time being he's staying in the ugly though. Cause he can do better than that.
The bad:
Tubesock: Goes on a rant about me being mafia and how we will have this for days and days. Quotes a game where I have like 7 posts as example. He realizes it's not really how I always play scum after ptmc points it out but doesn't really pursue that thought further. It's obvious he is just happy with having a reason to scumread me even after having it invalidated, ends up voting TickTock with me after having that train of thought. I believe he should have been much more determined to keep his vote on me after what he said.
Koroko: Has three posts. Claims third party, wins by creating fake accounts. Sounds too good to be true. Not necessarily mafia but definitely a something from outside this world that needs cleansing.
As for SL, ptmc, WoS, Skynx, ritoky. I don't wanna put them into these categories
Off the top of my head, mafia WoS tends to longish posts. SL just loses the grip on the game and misunderstands stuff, ritoky acts smug and spams stuff for fun a bit like scumtanis. I cba to check for those tendencies on these guys I'd like to have them around a bit longer anyway.
From a glance ptmc seemed townie at first but he has kinda dropped off and his list seemed a bit superficial.
Skynx on the other hand was brutally honest about how he forgot about something and couldn't be arsed to go over it again in his list thingy and that earns him town points in my book.
Either way, I'd lynch tube and the 3p claim next.[/QUOTE]
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btw in case people want to know my actions:
d1: attack gb
n1: clone
d2: attack tubesock
n2: sentry koshi
d3: attack sicklucker
n3: clone
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i cut the quotes because i want to read this^
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On October 29 2016 14:10 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 14:07 Bill Murray wrote:On October 29 2016 14:04 ritoky wrote:
well i think we have maybe 5 potentially confirmed town + artanis (if he's 3p). i think BM is really town, i am town, wave is potentially proven town, koshi is tenuously proven town, and then we have the person who gave me a sentry ward.
i didn't see items of giving items on any dead player, so i can only assume that person is alive.
if we assume your check is legit, that leaves:
tubesock
iamp
dandel
exo
sl
-1 from this list because 1 of them is likely the person who gave me a ward.
thus we have 4 people looking for 2 or 3 mafia, with my damage and our lynches i believe that is PoE. koshi is maf so you think he is mafia with a day kill ability rather than a double lynch and he is framing his daykill as a secondary lynch?
This is absolutely possible, yes, but I still think it's way lower possibility if you consider the circumstances.
He was on board D2 to kill Lunaticman anyway and having the no lynch happen made him look like shit. If this trade is going to happen anyway (Vivax was a 100% lynch for even D3 at that point), why take the chance when you're not up on the block yourself and ruin an easy kill on town Lunatic?
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what did u get off that n2 action?
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On October 29 2016 14:16 Bill Murray wrote:
Vivax wrote:
Kinda tempting to lynch Koshi cause his play is really uninspired and inspiration is what town Koshi projects but I don't think I want to lynch him D1.
I'm placing my vote on TT for now. His reason to vote me feels super construed. [/B]
On October 24 2016 22:35 Vivax wrote:
The good:
1. Hopeless.
He played and actually cared. I've never seen him care this much I believe. Last time he was mafia he behaved and talked like a guy standing dazed in front of a naked specimen of his preferred gender, then fell unconscious and nobody ever heard of him since. He is completely incapable of playing as mafia.
2. Iamperfection. I honestly have no clue how he plays mafia. But I somehow always know when he's town. Maybe he just always rolls town, maybe I'm just this good. It certainly has nothing to do with the way he plays. But he's town. He's obnoxious towards suspicious people and frantically searches remote places for mafia. He has this righteous, condescending tone in his posts.
3. Artanis. He's serious. There's no playing around. It's the empire mafia criterion. He'll just fool around and joke rather than get to work this blatantly as mafia. So I'm doing this call just based on that. I don't think I've seen a single gif? Maybe he's ill, most certainly he's being a good townie boy his parents would be proud of.
4. Dandel. Don't ask me why, I don't think I have a logical reason to TR him it's just what feels right.
5. Exo. I liked how he went after Wave D1 with the bar example and shit. Very aggressive overall but I think that in that too calm town atmosphere he did something scum wouldn't have done: Stir things up.
The ugly:
1. Bill Murray. This guy can just do what the hell he wants cause nobody ever had any clue how to read him in the history of mafia. He actually can have decent reads as town and be scary as mafia. Just the type of guy you will get insane over at a situation like lylo. Good luck boys.
Kurumi: Not that ugly actually. His lists had a meaning, and he bothered to start communicating normally afterwards. He doesn't feel the urge to do that as mafia. If anything, when he's mafia he just trolls, posts gibberish and doesn't give a damn about your opinion. On the good side of ugly.
KamasutraXTacoshopu:
Dunno, really. Focuses on superficial things like a newbie would do (shitposters=mafia, helpful=town). Hasn't yet mastered the art of saying "I am". He's the descartian nightmare, but it seems like it's a sentient being. I'm going with town for his focus on superficial things however, seems natural enough.
LordTolkien:
It bothers me that his initial list are people he would lynch just cause he doesn't know them. If he knows how to read the other people, he should certainly be able to find scum among them? Seems like a minor rebuttal, but is telling for laziness and has shown that he rather would make a very shallow list. Wanting to lynch kurumi for the emotes is also very superficial. They actually meant something if he bothered to figure it out.
Later on he plays some thread police, posts some stuff related to game mechanics, talks about germans in lederhosen, puts up the lynch mob face for Koshi. Alrighty, if he's mafia he's doing splendidly. I can't tell for sure yet.
Acrofales: He's just here cause he's ugly. I'm firmly convinced he is. Actually I just don't want to read his posts too much unfounded hate, this guy is just a bully and bullies don't deserve attention, just basic attacks.
Koshi: Felt really underwhelming at the beginning. Lacked too much third person and typical strongheadedness. But I have seen Koshi being like this as town, actually. He's just not very consistent in his tone, and just activity wise I think he looks townie enough. Plus if his claim is real, a double lynch doesn't seem like a mafia ability. So I'm leaving him kinda in between. I feel like he's becoming more townie as time passes. I just wonder why he's not on a crusade against me yet. meh.
Glowingbear: Slight townlean. Why? Cause he is scared when he's mafia. He isn't scared here. He's acting like some innocent teddy bear everyone's supposed to leave alone. Zero aggression shown towards his attackers. When Palmar got him on the hook D1 in another game he lashed back out towards him, he didn't make puppy eyes and ask "why" like here. For the time being he's staying in the ugly though. Cause he can do better than that.
The bad:
Tubesock: Goes on a rant about me being mafia and how we will have this for days and days. Quotes a game where I have like 7 posts as example. He realizes it's not really how I always play scum after ptmc points it out but doesn't really pursue that thought further. It's obvious he is just happy with having a reason to scumread me even after having it invalidated, ends up voting TickTock with me after having that train of thought. I believe he should have been much more determined to keep his vote on me after what he said.
Koroko: Has three posts. Claims third party, wins by creating fake accounts. Sounds too good to be true. Not necessarily mafia but definitely a something from outside this world that needs cleansing.
As for SL, ptmc, WoS, Skynx, ritoky. I don't wanna put them into these categories
Off the top of my head, mafia WoS tends to longish posts. SL just loses the grip on the game and misunderstands stuff, ritoky acts smug and spams stuff for fun a bit like scumtanis. I cba to check for those tendencies on these guys I'd like to have them around a bit longer anyway.
From a glance ptmc seemed townie at first but he has kinda dropped off and his list seemed a bit superficial.
Skynx on the other hand was brutally honest about how he forgot about something and couldn't be arsed to go over it again in his list thingy and that earns him town points in my book.
Either way, I'd lynch tube and the 3p claim next.[/QUOTE]
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BM you know that doesn't mean shit right?
He's scum. He can put whatever he wants.
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koshi claimed that he healed himself that night.
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anyone think of a dota character that thematically would have a heal + double lynch or heal + daykill?
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On October 29 2016 14:12 ritoky wrote:
Dandel seriously needs to tell the truth about what he did though. Dandel says he moved and attacked my clone. Neither myself, nor my clones have taken damage all game. And Dandel moved to me, so clearly he wasn't roleblocked; which since then has had me really confused about his alignment. I assumed after sparring with him in thread that he had given me the sentry in that action, but then I said "why the fuck would a town give a sentry to a 3p dummy account"? And I haven't solved that yet.
So once again Dandel, you didn't do damage to my clone, so what were you doing to it?
Dandel has yet to show up. Losing townpoints by the minute.
ExO/Kurumi/Dandel could be a scumteam. Problem is there are other people it could be.
I'm still pretty impressed if Dandel is scum.
(More if iamp is lol)
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On October 29 2016 14:19 ritoky wrote:
anyone think of a dota character that thematically would have a heal + double lynch or heal + daykill?
I don't know dota very well, and I don't think it's worth speculating that hard.
Just like in my LoL game, some of the powers seem thematically relevant for the heroes involved, and some of them aren't really.
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i want to preface this in saying .. koshi left A LOT of people off his list, A LOT of which are still alive (4-5 players easily) so this MIGHT be circumstantial evidence ... or correlation without causation...
i just see koshi being obvious maf. what he is doing, to reiterate... ive literally used that play before on this site. as mafia. exact same play, regarding the daylynch which is really a maf kill.
vivax distanced from him and was like oh hes in the ugly pile, but then, while talking about why he wasnt scum, and why he was town, i noticed he seemed almost trying to trick his own mind, as if convincing himself. it's weird.
he did the same thing about kurumi in that post too. he put him in the ugly and then talks about how he has looked town. kinda off. whatever. maybe i just cant understand vivax; i never have.
he also had a post that was the JEEP tell which was one of his earlier posts
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Exo also has yet to show up, and all Kurumi has done has been to apologize all game. I think I did that in my last scumgame too (even if it was true---and he could be telling the truth about not being able to play and still be scum).
Iamp do you REALLY think ritoky is scum here?
I need some input on Dandel as well. He's fallen off fairly hard.
(also maybe the probability of Koshi being scum despite the no lynch and whatnot)
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On October 29 2016 14:19 ritoky wrote:
anyone think of a dota character that thematically would have a heal + double lynch or heal + daykill?
IDK BUT THINK ABOUT THAT + OMNIKNIGHT .... SEEMS LIKE A COMBO HUH? Koshi is scum!!!
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On October 29 2016 14:21 Bill Murray wrote:
i want to preface this in saying .. koshi left A LOT of people off his list, A LOT of which are still alive (4-5 players easily) so this MIGHT be circumstantial evidence ... or correlation without causation...
i just see koshi being obvious maf. what he is doing, to reiterate... ive literally used that play before on this site. as mafia. exact same play, regarding the daylynch which is really a maf kill.
vivax distanced from him and was like oh hes in the ugly pile, but then, while talking about why he wasnt scum, and why he was town, i noticed he seemed almost trying to trick his own mind, as if convincing himself. it's weird.
he did the same thing about kurumi in that post too. he put him in the ugly and then talks about how he has looked town. kinda off. whatever. maybe i just cant understand vivax; i never have.
he also had a post that was the JEEP tell which was one of his earlier posts
BM you can't take scum's reads into account nearly as well as town's.
They can fabricate anything and everything they want.
Still like the post though somewhat. I think you've reaffirmed yourself town for me if that matters at all.
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On October 29 2016 14:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Exo also has yet to show up, and all Kurumi has done has been to apologize all game. I think I did that in my last scumgame too (even if it was true---and he could be telling the truth about not being able to play and still be scum).
Iamp do you REALLY think ritoky is scum here?
I need some input on Dandel as well. He's fallen off fairly hard.
(also maybe the probability of Koshi being scum despite the no lynch and whatnot)
vivax did the EXACT SAME THING HE DID WITH KOSHI WITH KURUMI
im ALL FOR dmging or lynching kurumi
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i dont know the point that you brought up has me thinking
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