EPTYou apparently trusted me completely before, but now you don't?!
What is that??
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You apparently trusted me completely before, but now you don't?! What is that?? | ||
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On October 29 2016 13:37 ritoky wrote: i am so sorry everyone. ..............? | ||
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On October 29 2016 13:37 ritoky wrote: i am so sorry everyone. What did you do? And/or what are you going to do? | ||
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The Koshi thing I will admit has gotten on my mind a little bit since (before I look back because I could be wrong) I feel like it's consistent with BEEG PLAYS if a lot of the scumteam bussed him. I hate that I'm thinking like that but ugh. Either way it'll be at least another couple phases until we need to worry about that. Now to read. | ||
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On October 29 2016 13:50 ritoky wrote: i am just going to come clean now cuz it's gonna be an issue later; and i should probably give you guys the most amount of time to discuss and decide on this...since if wave truly has a red check then you at least have 3+ days to make a call. i am town. i played incredibly greedy and self-interested this game. so i will at least try to explain why. very early on i realized i did not have the willpower or the desire to play how i normally play and wanted to default into a sheeping role. as a result of this, many people were scum reading me for not being the me of old, but well....i am not really that dude anymore i guess. it just ain't in me no more. in order to alleviate myself from the possibility of being lynched i fake claimed 3p. however, there's more to the story. my role has an incredibly high amount of hp (the highest of any flipped champ thus far). but when i make a clone i have send the clone some of my hp in order to make them. the upside is that for every clone i have i do quite a substantial amount of more damage. at 3 clones now i can probably 1shot over half of the remaining players per phase i am alive. i needed to avoid chip/peripheral damage (which i did taking 0 damage all game) in order to develop myself into the late game dps master that i currently am. so 3rd party claiming makes me pretty much never targeted by damaging abilities thus i can pump out more clones and deal more damage. so i am sorry for being a greedy asshole and claiming 3p as town, i am sorry my play is so shit that you probably can't read me as town and will have a hard time believing me; but at least i no longer have to perpetuate a lie and you can all understand why i did what i did. I'm actually finding I really hope this is true. And if so, don't apologize because you played this extremely well. I REALLY HOPE THIS IS TRUE BECAUSE IT CHANGES A LOT DONT BREAK MY HEART RITOKY MY ACHY BREAKY HEART | ||
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On October 29 2016 13:55 ritoky wrote: i am at full hp, i have taken 0 damage. i have to lower my max hp to create clones. Alright I'm going to assume all of the above is true. No more sheeping ritoky (aside from voting skynx). Assuming you don't care about the rest of town input, what do YOU think should be done with your shot? Who is scum? Give me something honey. | ||
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On October 29 2016 13:59 iamperfection wrote: why would you claim 3p though i dont remember you being under any pressure to be lynched this doesnt feel right. i think your scum. Well at the very least now I see how this role works outside of 3P. Why would he claim this now if scum though? | ||
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On October 29 2016 14:02 iamperfection wrote: cause i pointed out that his claim makes no sense. Oh its hard work being this damn good. Haven't people been questioning his claim for ages though? And like I said, why now? Even if he's scum, he's under no threat for ages. It doesn't even make sense as a play necessarily. | ||
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On October 29 2016 14:04 ritoky wrote: well i think we have maybe 5 potentially confirmed town + artanis (if he's 3p). i think BM is really town, i am town, wave is potentially proven town, koshi is tenuously proven town, and then we have the person who gave me a sentry ward. i didn't see items of giving items on any dead player, so i can only assume that person is alive. if we assume your check is legit, that leaves: tubesock iamp dandel exo sl -1 from this list because 1 of them is likely the person who gave me a ward. thus we have 4 people looking for 2 or 3 mafia, with my damage and our lynches i believe that is PoE. I still think kurumi is next. Where's my list? Does any of it still apply? | ||
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Anyway: Tictock (8); Vivax, Holyflare, iamperfection, Lord Tolkien, Koshi (4): Lunaticman, Lunaticman (1): Vivax (2): Lord Tolkien (2): Kurumi, WaveofShadow WaveofShadow (1): Dandel Ion (1): ritoky (1): So that was the old version. Let's see the new one: Tictock (8); Vivax, Holyflare, iamperfection, Lord Tolkien, Koshi (4): Lunaticman, Lunaticman (1): Vivax (2): Lord Tolkien (2): Kurumi, WaveofShadow WaveofShadow (1): Dandel Ion (1): ritoky (1): Exo and Kurumi being scum fit the bill here still. At the very least I'd say one of them HAS to be since I can't believe 4 scum would all pile onto Tictock like that. This doesn't excuse Tubesock or sicklucker exactly I'd have to look at them closer. | ||
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On October 29 2016 14:10 ritoky wrote: so you think he is mafia with a day kill ability rather than a double lynch and he is framing his daykill as a secondary lynch? This is absolutely possible, yes, but I still think it's way lower possibility if you consider the circumstances. He was on board D2 to kill Lunaticman anyway and having the no lynch happen made him look like shit. If this trade is going to happen anyway (Vivax was a 100% lynch for even D3 at that point), why take the chance when you're not up on the block yourself and ruin an easy kill on town Lunatic? | ||
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On October 29 2016 14:16 Bill Murray wrote: [/B]Vivax wrote: Kinda tempting to lynch Koshi cause his play is really uninspired and inspiration is what town Koshi projects but I don't think I want to lynch him D1. I'm placing my vote on TT for now. His reason to vote me feels super construed. On October 24 2016 22:35 Vivax wrote: The good: 1. Hopeless. He played and actually cared. I've never seen him care this much I believe. Last time he was mafia he behaved and talked like a guy standing dazed in front of a naked specimen of his preferred gender, then fell unconscious and nobody ever heard of him since. He is completely incapable of playing as mafia. 2. Iamperfection. I honestly have no clue how he plays mafia. But I somehow always know when he's town. Maybe he just always rolls town, maybe I'm just this good. It certainly has nothing to do with the way he plays. But he's town. He's obnoxious towards suspicious people and frantically searches remote places for mafia. He has this righteous, condescending tone in his posts. 3. Artanis. He's serious. There's no playing around. It's the empire mafia criterion. He'll just fool around and joke rather than get to work this blatantly as mafia. So I'm doing this call just based on that. I don't think I've seen a single gif? Maybe he's ill, most certainly he's being a good townie boy his parents would be proud of. 4. Dandel. Don't ask me why, I don't think I have a logical reason to TR him it's just what feels right. 5. Exo. I liked how he went after Wave D1 with the bar example and shit. Very aggressive overall but I think that in that too calm town atmosphere he did something scum wouldn't have done: Stir things up. The ugly: 1. Bill Murray. This guy can just do what the hell he wants cause nobody ever had any clue how to read him in the history of mafia. He actually can have decent reads as town and be scary as mafia. Just the type of guy you will get insane over at a situation like lylo. Good luck boys. Kurumi: Not that ugly actually. His lists had a meaning, and he bothered to start communicating normally afterwards. He doesn't feel the urge to do that as mafia. If anything, when he's mafia he just trolls, posts gibberish and doesn't give a damn about your opinion. On the good side of ugly. KamasutraXTacoshopu: Dunno, really. Focuses on superficial things like a newbie would do (shitposters=mafia, helpful=town). Hasn't yet mastered the art of saying "I am". He's the descartian nightmare, but it seems like it's a sentient being. I'm going with town for his focus on superficial things however, seems natural enough. LordTolkien: It bothers me that his initial list are people he would lynch just cause he doesn't know them. If he knows how to read the other people, he should certainly be able to find scum among them? Seems like a minor rebuttal, but is telling for laziness and has shown that he rather would make a very shallow list. Wanting to lynch kurumi for the emotes is also very superficial. They actually meant something if he bothered to figure it out. Later on he plays some thread police, posts some stuff related to game mechanics, talks about germans in lederhosen, puts up the lynch mob face for Koshi. Alrighty, if he's mafia he's doing splendidly. I can't tell for sure yet. Acrofales: He's just here cause he's ugly. I'm firmly convinced he is. Actually I just don't want to read his posts too much unfounded hate, this guy is just a bully and bullies don't deserve attention, just basic attacks. Koshi: Felt really underwhelming at the beginning. Lacked too much third person and typical strongheadedness. But I have seen Koshi being like this as town, actually. He's just not very consistent in his tone, and just activity wise I think he looks townie enough. Plus if his claim is real, a double lynch doesn't seem like a mafia ability. So I'm leaving him kinda in between. I feel like he's becoming more townie as time passes. I just wonder why he's not on a crusade against me yet. meh. Glowingbear: Slight townlean. Why? Cause he is scared when he's mafia. He isn't scared here. He's acting like some innocent teddy bear everyone's supposed to leave alone. Zero aggression shown towards his attackers. When Palmar got him on the hook D1 in another game he lashed back out towards him, he didn't make puppy eyes and ask "why" like here. For the time being he's staying in the ugly though. Cause he can do better than that. The bad: Tubesock: Goes on a rant about me being mafia and how we will have this for days and days. Quotes a game where I have like 7 posts as example. He realizes it's not really how I always play scum after ptmc points it out but doesn't really pursue that thought further. It's obvious he is just happy with having a reason to scumread me even after having it invalidated, ends up voting TickTock with me after having that train of thought. I believe he should have been much more determined to keep his vote on me after what he said. Koroko: Has three posts. Claims third party, wins by creating fake accounts. Sounds too good to be true. Not necessarily mafia but definitely a something from outside this world that needs cleansing. As for SL, ptmc, WoS, Skynx, ritoky. I don't wanna put them into these categories Off the top of my head, mafia WoS tends to longish posts. SL just loses the grip on the game and misunderstands stuff, ritoky acts smug and spams stuff for fun a bit like scumtanis. I cba to check for those tendencies on these guys I'd like to have them around a bit longer anyway. From a glance ptmc seemed townie at first but he has kinda dropped off and his list seemed a bit superficial. Skynx on the other hand was brutally honest about how he forgot about something and couldn't be arsed to go over it again in his list thingy and that earns him town points in my book. Either way, I'd lynch tube and the 3p claim next.[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] BM you know that doesn't mean shit right? He's scum. He can put whatever he wants. | ||
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On October 29 2016 14:12 ritoky wrote: Dandel seriously needs to tell the truth about what he did though. Dandel says he moved and attacked my clone. Neither myself, nor my clones have taken damage all game. And Dandel moved to me, so clearly he wasn't roleblocked; which since then has had me really confused about his alignment. I assumed after sparring with him in thread that he had given me the sentry in that action, but then I said "why the fuck would a town give a sentry to a 3p dummy account"? And I haven't solved that yet. So once again Dandel, you didn't do damage to my clone, so what were you doing to it? Dandel has yet to show up. Losing townpoints by the minute. ExO/Kurumi/Dandel could be a scumteam. Problem is there are other people it could be. I'm still pretty impressed if Dandel is scum. (More if iamp is lol) | ||
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On October 29 2016 14:19 ritoky wrote: anyone think of a dota character that thematically would have a heal + double lynch or heal + daykill? I don't know dota very well, and I don't think it's worth speculating that hard. Just like in my LoL game, some of the powers seem thematically relevant for the heroes involved, and some of them aren't really. | ||
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Iamp do you REALLY think ritoky is scum here? I need some input on Dandel as well. He's fallen off fairly hard. (also maybe the probability of Koshi being scum despite the no lynch and whatnot) | ||
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On October 29 2016 14:21 Bill Murray wrote: i want to preface this in saying .. koshi left A LOT of people off his list, A LOT of which are still alive (4-5 players easily) so this MIGHT be circumstantial evidence ... or correlation without causation... i just see koshi being obvious maf. what he is doing, to reiterate... ive literally used that play before on this site. as mafia. exact same play, regarding the daylynch which is really a maf kill. vivax distanced from him and was like oh hes in the ugly pile, but then, while talking about why he wasnt scum, and why he was town, i noticed he seemed almost trying to trick his own mind, as if convincing himself. it's weird. he did the same thing about kurumi in that post too. he put him in the ugly and then talks about how he has looked town. kinda off. whatever. maybe i just cant understand vivax; i never have. he also had a post that was the JEEP tell which was one of his earlier posts BM you can't take scum's reads into account nearly as well as town's. They can fabricate anything and everything they want. Still like the post though somewhat. I think you've reaffirmed yourself town for me if that matters at all. | ||
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Some players just play like that. | ||
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On October 29 2016 14:55 ritoky wrote: just read exo's filter. no clue. he probably is never mafia with tubesock, there's that.....the only town exo i really remember is a massive tunneler and he isn't that this game; but the fuck do i know about meta-reading people anymore. he types some shit about allowing the mod to kill vivax instead of lynching him and gets mad when i point it out which isn't very good looking. he also says he is going to do more things than he actually does. but i don't really see glaring mafia and i can understand his thought progression a decent amount of the time. Wat That's exactly what he's been this game? Exo tunneled the shit out of me, then Koshi I think. Also BM please stop before my brain explodes. I have literally no idea what you're doing. | ||
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