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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 04:52 GMT
#408
guess i am not gettin a response to my question. rip in pepperonis.

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“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 05:17 GMT
#410
i don't really know what to make of hama cuz idk wtf he is, but he loves acronyms. i agree with his first sentence but his explanation for how he got there is dumb. plus his hopeless read doesn't make much sense without any explanation, do you think he is being opportunistic? why does someone with the same read as you = mafia?

i think exo is tentatively town because: hey this guy is crumbing -> hey it sounds like crumbing dazzle -> dazzle is probably a protective role -> only an idiot would blatantly claim protective d1 -> WoS isn't an idiot -> lying or mafia; is a very town progression of thought that i can understand. he tunneled a bit much and it was slightly low hanging so he doesnt as much cred

i think WoS is tentatively town cuz he gave me a boner. when people basically tell their accusers to go fuck themselves it gives me a town boner; rarely does it come from mafia. also his crumb seems too shitty to be mafia, but that's a bs metric only for my head.

i don't mind LT's policyland, but do more than just make a list. some of those ppl are posting.

i don't remember any of my other thoughts.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 05:33 GMT
#414
wats the kurumi read BM? just the whole shoot/nuke stuff too audacious for mafia? or?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 18:57 GMT
#869
should i actually read the pages i was gone for? i read 2 of them and it was just 2 people talking back and forth about irrelevant shit.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 19:38 GMT
#880
On October 21 2016 04:37 Skynx wrote:
LordTolkien's entry sucks so hard.


cuz?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 19:42 GMT
#887
On October 21 2016 04:38 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 04:37 Skynx wrote:
LordTolkien's entry sucks so hard.


cuz?

“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 19:44 GMT
#891
On October 21 2016 04:43 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 04:38 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:37 Skynx wrote:
LordTolkien's entry sucks so hard.


cuz?

Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 10:38 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I vote to kill everyone who i haven't played with, and BillMurray.

all in favor?

*raises hand*

Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 13:02 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Right so, people who I haven't played with and thus don't want to bother with learning to read:

1 Tictock
5 Skynx
8 beentheredonethat
9 ExO_
10 Lunaticman
11 HamazuraXTakitsubo
12 Tubesock
16 Eversince
17 ptmc
18 Kurumiz

Please lynch someone from this list pls.

Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 13:03 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you aren't on this list and I haven't played with you, please let me know so I know I can lynch you today.


Its like he's trying to be Palmar and people ignore him and he just walks off.


Why does that suck though? What about it makes you think anything more than policy?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 19:46 GMT
#896
On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 04:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
Oh I forgot about Luna

hardcore bus entry vs Koshi yeah?


I didn't buss anyone.


What, over the course of 2 hours, made you flip your read on HF?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 19:48 GMT
#898
On October 21 2016 04:46 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 04:46 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
Oh I forgot about Luna

hardcore bus entry vs Koshi yeah?


I didn't buss anyone.


What, over the course of 2 hours, made you flip your read on HF?


I think I made at least 3 posts explaining why.


So omgus?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 19:56 GMT
#904
On October 21 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 04:44 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:43 Skynx wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:38 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:37 Skynx wrote:
LordTolkien's entry sucks so hard.


cuz?

On October 20 2016 10:38 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I vote to kill everyone who i haven't played with, and BillMurray.

all in favor?

*raises hand*

On October 20 2016 13:02 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Right so, people who I haven't played with and thus don't want to bother with learning to read:

1 Tictock
5 Skynx
8 beentheredonethat
9 ExO_
10 Lunaticman
11 HamazuraXTakitsubo
12 Tubesock
16 Eversince
17 ptmc
18 Kurumiz

Please lynch someone from this list pls.

On October 20 2016 13:03 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you aren't on this list and I haven't played with you, please let me know so I know I can lynch you today.


Its like he's trying to be Palmar and people ignore him and he just walks off.


Why does that suck though? What about it makes you think anything more than policy?

It's not about policy at all, I dunno where you got that from. He's putting himself in this almighty position by suggesting bunch of lynches out of nowhere not seemingly in a bantery manner and when he doesn't get any audience he's out of here. When I play D1 early on its fine to banter but there is a difference here, he's not saying 'hey ritoky I'm gona 100% lynch you D1", instead he's like "Alright I'm not gona read the game, here s my lynches cya kk thx".

Ignore the meta bit I suggest here but when Palmar does this shit everyone tells me to back off because he's a good player and I had to put up with that for some reason. I don't have any opinion on LT so fuck that here.


Idk, while it doesn't seem like the most pro-town perspective in the game, it is one I can understand and empathize with. As someone who doesn't play mafia anymore (and definitely is done after this game) I can sympathize with seeing a player list of half ppl you don't know and don't particularly want to get to know cuz it is irrelevant to your future. Try to solve the world you know rather than figure out a bunch of new shit.

So I guess I don't understand why his approach is specifically bad. I can understand why it qualifies him as policy lynch for inactive or not trying, but I fail to see where it is distinctly anti-town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 19:57 GMT
#905
On October 21 2016 04:50 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 04:48 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:46 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:46 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
Oh I forgot about Luna

hardcore bus entry vs Koshi yeah?


I didn't buss anyone.


What, over the course of 2 hours, made you flip your read on HF?


I think I made at least 3 posts explaining why.


So omgus?


haha yes you can say it like that if you want but it is more the way it was done. No reasoning just undermining my credibility with no reason and ignoring it as soon as possible, changing the subject from Koshi etc.


Do you have any opinions on HF's read on me?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 20:14 GMT
#912
On October 21 2016 05:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Part of me wishes I had enough time to attempt to care more about this game and attempt to take control of things because there is zero direction in this thread


And then I remember I've played like 2 games in 2 years for very good reason


Carry on everybody


If you had the will to direct the thread to look more closely at say....4 people, at a glance who would those 4 people be?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 20:34 GMT
#931
town is something like:
ritoky
holyflare
iamp
btdt
exo
ptmc
kurumi
hopeless
dandel
wos
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 20:40 GMT
#943
On October 21 2016 05:37 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 05:34 ritoky wrote:
town is something like:
ritoky
holyflare
iamp
btdt
exo
ptmc
kurumi
hopeless
dandel
wos

Lol. Why are btdt, h1 and WoS in there?


btdt has the highest activity and town anger/tryhard

h1 cuz he sincerely told exo to get the fuck out of his tunnel...also he showed read progression on me which could have pocketed me to some degree

wos because of his flippant attitude
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 20:48 GMT
#955
On October 21 2016 05:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 05:40 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:37 Acrofales wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:34 ritoky wrote:
town is something like:
ritoky
holyflare
iamp
btdt
exo
ptmc
kurumi
hopeless
dandel
wos

Lol. Why are btdt, h1 and WoS in there?


btdt has the highest activity and town anger/tryhard

h1 cuz he sincerely told exo to get the fuck out of his tunnel...also he showed read progression on me which could have pocketed me to some degree

wos because of his flippant attitude

I like the read on me of course but what makes you so certain hopeless and Btdt are sincere?


with hopeless i see no particular scum motivation for trying to dig exo out of a tunnel. you could argue pocket, but it didn't read like that. if they're teammates he tells exo to stop tunneling in qt. if hopeless is mafia and exo is town he just let's exo tunnel away like he is prone to do and let exo bury someone or bury himself.

with btdt, i don't know him so if meta-wise i am wrong i am open to being corrected, but from general policy the most active person day 1 is town over 90% of the time, and some of his frustrations with people not being as srs as him seem genuinely thread coppy.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 21:17 GMT
#968
On October 21 2016 06:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 05:49 Holyflare wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:14 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Part of me wishes I had enough time to attempt to care more about this game and attempt to take control of things because there is zero direction in this thread


And then I remember I've played like 2 games in 2 years for very good reason


Carry on everybody


If you had the will to direct the thread to look more closely at say....4 people, at a glance who would those 4 people be?

Hey HF, is this a scum post?


I don't indulge crappy games. Ritoky drops townreads has no real drive to lynch people properly, hedges at every point and asks questions with no real follow up and doesn't seemingly care about answers. No gifs still either.

Lynch plz.

And yet a call to engage a seemingly disinterested waveofshadow to pay attention to the game?

Fuck your meta right in the ear, good sir, because for now I'm not voting him.

Will you be around later? Like...3h ish? I want to engage with someone fun.


It's 90% in game posts wtf are you talking about?

Aren't you calling him scum based on how different from usual his gifs and tryahrdiness and shit is? Or am I misunderstanding?

Also Kurumi why am I a cow now and not a king?

Can I be the cow king?


Mooooooooooo


He's saying I am different and not having fun, which historically indicates I am mafia. Which is a fine enough read, but wrong. Mostly because I haven't played in over 6 months so I assume I am different, and I am not particularly enjoying playing.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 21:21 GMT
#971
On October 21 2016 06:08 ptmc wrote:
just some boring mechanics-stuff regarding melee attacks
+ Show Spoiler +

On October 21 2016 00:44 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 00:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 21 2016 00:19 Acrofales wrote:
On October 21 2016 00:11 Kurumi wrote:
On October 21 2016 00:09 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 21 2016 00:03 Kurumi wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:46 Kurumi wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:42 Acrofales wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:35 Kurumi wrote:
[quote]

You are picking Holyflare over Lord Tolkien or Hopeless1der or beentheredonethat? I am supposed to be the insane one.

Yes. I actually didn't mind LT's single action so far and want to see more. H1der I don't really have a read on, but he has at least been around enough to ask questions of (at one point). You can say what you like about btdt, but he's not lurking. Convince us to lynch him if you think he's scum.

Holyflare is a great target for damaging. He has one shitty post with a throwaway reason for voting. He is a better player than that.


You see nothing wrong in claiming KP and claiming your target so early? Besides it being on the wrong person.

pretty sure everyone (or at least close) has basic KP so why not?


1) I didn't know that.
2) Openly claiming KP might let Mafia protect or stack on the person KP is claimed on. If I remember the scraps of the OP I read correctly, we won't get any information in regards to that.
3) If this claim is to make Holyflare post it's dumb. He's not around. Even if he was, he would most likely ignore it. It's not newb101 who's going to get baited.

i he keeps being afk and we attempt to policy kill a town HF mafia stacking kp on him is benificial to our goals (aka they won't)
if he doesnt thats way better
if hes mafia and they protect him somehow we can just lynch him

i dont see the downside tbh

if everyone just basic attacks a different guy we'll never get enough damage together to flip a guy


Thing is I remember there being doto heroes getting stronger through killing people. No idea if items exist or how they work, but we might also donate these to Mafia. You want to lynch him - fine, but as it stands he looks like a piss poor lynch.

Iamperfection claimed he needs heals to be effective. That reeks of Abaddon or Pudge. Pudge does also get stronger from kills. So maybe don't allow Iamp to kill shit until we are surer of his alignment.

look
maybe
i dont know shit about doto champs so i cant speak to that

but we can potentially have enough combined dmg to vig a scummy (or at least a useless) dude every night
essentially if we do it right we get a bonus lynch per cycle
that cant be that terrible
im pretty sure it's better than some people getting some minor bonuses
im pretty sure it's worth that one time we get screwed with, we can just do it all over again

worst case we end up lynching the scummies and shooting lurkers. you'll note that this worst case is not very bad. because i dont think it is.


unless you think theres something completely crazy that could happen but i actually think this game isn't going to be too wild, that's host wifom tho


Not being able to hit anybody who isn't next to you in the player list kinda puts a damper on that.


On October 21 2016 00:51 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 00:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also iamp I can hit anyone I want so maybe melee/ranged is a thing?

PS before anyone starts on me, scum absolutely know all of this already.

I move in order to hit


I just thought some more about this, and what would happen if more than one melee guy hits the same target and so on.
In the resolution it says that attacks are carried out before movement, so I figure that you always hit your designated target, regardless of where you two are in regards to each other.
Then in the movement phase you are moved together, and if more than one melee guy attacks then the one closer to the top stays closer to the target.



Cool, now give me the not boring-mechanics stuff.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 04:03 GMT
#1118
give a read on me
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 04:04 GMT
#1121
On October 21 2016 12:20 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 11:59 iamperfection wrote:
On October 21 2016 11:53 Acrofales wrote:
On October 21 2016 11:51 iamperfection wrote:
On October 21 2016 11:49 Acrofales wrote:
It's 4:30 AM and I'm awake because bed bugs wanted to eat me. I am angry and a bit delirious. Who wants to chat.

If tictock's stream of consciousness is real, he feels townie. Still deciding if real or clever scum-ploy.

post your spreadsheet

Is that allowed? I thought that got forbidden after Chrono trigger mafia.

do what i did

I have a list post. It's still mostly up to date.

I'd be happy with lynching any of the following:

Lunaticman
Glowingbear
Hazura Tako bell
Tubesock

All for being useless lurkers.

Would also lynch

Koshi: abrasive, but useless. No reads of his own. No pressure
Ptmc: blending


btw i laughed for a solid 45 seconds on that.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 21 2016 04:19 GMT
#1126
On October 21 2016 13:09 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 13:03 ritoky wrote:
give a read on me


Lean Town, but slightly. You've made some very level-headed points that I largely agree with. Particularly in regards to trying to think the way other players would about the game. But I think you could just as easily do the same thing as scum. So far you don't sound scum-motivated to me though.


you should post things like this about more people.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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