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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18180 Posts
October 25 2016 19:30 GMT
#3501
On October 26 2016 01:46 Koshi wrote:
I am going to die so you people can read my pm. To not break the rules I will say, people that attack me get 5 damage, and this is confirmed by btdt getting 3 times 5 damage when he attacked me.

But again. You can read it yourselves soon enough.

Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 23:52 Acrofales wrote:
Koshi: is your action refunded if you get roleblocked? Why didn't you claim roleblocked FIRST THING rather than wine about the damage you took?

I wondered about 2 things.
1) Why didn't my ulti go through
2) Why did I get so much damage.

1) I still don't know because this game has a closed set up and all kind of shit can happen. But my opinion is that I got stunned by something and due to BM saying I did 5 damage to Artanis I believe people around me attacked me. Winter Wyvern just makes sense to me. So if somewhere in the game you copcheck somebody and he is WW just murder him. Also, I can't be RB'ed. So I knew it wasn't that.

2) I didn't know what happened to my ulti so I just ignored that for the time being, thought it was tied to the darkness thing, thought the night kinda came early so the EoD resolution just didn't happen, anyway, I was upset about getting so much damage so I whined about that. I felt I played a very townie D2. Almost cheated my way to confirmed town status, but you people are really just too dense.


PS: I still have my ulti. That I know.
PSII: RIP Koshi


Not role blocked, but didn't happen. And you still have the ability? What madness is this? Did you ask the hosts?
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 25 2016 19:32 GMT
#3502
I'm here til EoD.

I hated Nightstalker from the very first day I played doto where he just right clicked my hohohaha down all the way to t2...

Town is loosing traction guys. Think simple about the mechanics, only thing no-lynch did is it confirmed even more 100% Vivax mafia. Don't bother with Koshi shenanigans theorycrafting because its pointless. Mafia was getting lynched, mafia used no-lynch, simple stuff and tbh, its quite stupid to use it now cuz it just increases their night presence 5/5 for one more night, nothing else WP mafia you literally could turn 5v1 into a lylo with that op ability.

Thats why ppl should take heed attacking Vivax tonight, they will try blademails, shallow graves, whatever. Best to ensure his death by a lynch.
Vivax always always always dies tomorrow, I can't stress enough. Please delay your wrath against Lunatic/Koshi/Hama/whoever for another day.

Keep calm guys, town is not in a bad position.

Gona post my thoughts all the way from last post D2.5 now.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 25 2016 19:33 GMT
#3503
Oh yeah I didn't attack anyone, used an ability instead.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 25 2016 19:34 GMT
#3504
You can ask questions here in meantime, I keep an eye on both tabs.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18180 Posts
October 25 2016 19:38 GMT
#3505
On October 26 2016 04:34 Skynx wrote:
You can ask questions here in meantime, I keep an eye on both tabs.

Are you scum? Because that biggish post up there sure looks like it...
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 25 2016 19:45 GMT
#3506
On October 26 2016 04:38 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 04:34 Skynx wrote:
You can ask questions here in meantime, I keep an eye on both tabs.

Are you scum? Because that biggish post up there sure looks like it...

What makes you think that?

Who do you think my other partners are along with Vivax in that case?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 25 2016 19:56 GMT
#3507
because that post would have been more believable just about 20 hours earlier probably
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 25 2016 20:01 GMT
#3508
LT

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 24 2016 10:00 Lord Tolkien wrote:
1) I would really like it if we could find a way to confirm BTDT as town, despite his flagrant filter padding. That would certainly make this game easier. The best way would be for koshi to flip scum, but he is claiming the ability to double lynch, which basically confirms him town unless we don't get a double lynch. But then again, why the would he claim the ability to double lynch when there's obviously a mafia roleblock going around. That's actually a stupid thing to do even if you're under pressure from KP, it mildly makes sense given death will cancel the ability out (because it would probably fall under "other"), but actually. This is retarded and we likely have 0 way to verify because he'll never get it off.

So Koshi, please explain your double lynch more thoroughly and tell us why you'd claim it like this or die. Today, preferably. Because it makes no sense.



2) The complete lack of defense or attempt to deflect off of Vivax at all is mildly disconcerting. Plus he's on track to be modkilled D2 so...I'm not sold on the lynch anymore.

3) I'm going to assume Dandel is Schrodinger's scummer, since I obv. cannot read him from the 1 game i played with him.

4) Is HxT just confused noob town or mafia using noob shield. idk, could just kill him today instead of Vivax because he's using noob shield excuse, and if he actually flips scum I can confirm BTDT. But then again he might also be modkilled and replaced so argh.

5) So GB. Why haven't you done anything if you aren't scum. You're always low-key when scum and super-active as town, so tell me. Why shouldn't we lynch you today?

6) Fun fact, I get unblockable/unredirectable KP with my basic attacks now. coo'.

7) The fuck is with this 3p meepo claim. It mildly makes sense, but when 1 meepo dies all meepos die. But then again they decided to classify my hero as an offlaner, lul, so. I'll rule it plausible.

8) SL claims BS. Hrm. Hmmmmmm. What town role does checking HP even serve for town as opposed to mafia, who are better able to coordinate KP to kill off town.

9) I will reverse my call to kill Kurumi for today. Mostly because I don't trust wave still and mostly because I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in re. to time constraints. Even if all he's promising to do is give fucking lists.

10) meh, I like iamp, but then again I know he's not posting mostly because we're playing DotA.


I'm off to play DotA, but I'm prob going to give NocturneMage a read tonight to figure out why the fuck mafia killed him tonight. Might've been rolechecked D1 but eh, think it's probably his filter.

This is just a terrible post all around. Just check the bolds: He defends Vivax, suggesting a possible modkill which is just horrible. He suggest going after another afker is even more shittier. Attacks GB for no activity (oh the irony). Where is an opinion on guys that are highly sr'd such as Koshi,Lunatic and me?

I mean my push on him from the start has been shitty because there is not something apparent. However he fits the mafia agenda, I can no longer keep him in the soft scumlean pile any longer cuz i have few reasons. He has been trolling and laying low since the start, judging by the chaotic town environment so far it'd make sense for some mafia members to just keep afk. This guy could easily be one of them, he's literally avoiding any hard contribution, hasn't done one bit of scumhunting. Just trying to stay alive really.


Tubesock

+ Show Spoiler +
My scumread earlier wasn't based on solid stuff, it was quite shitty I know. This guy has just improved tho, he's not the same person he was early D1.

On October 24 2016 06:30 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 06:21 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 23 2016 08:51 Tubesock wrote:
Actually, the best thing about this "double" lynch is that this phase won't be a snoozefest since we will be talking about who is the secondary lynch. If we just play with a single lynch in mind, it won't be as active since no one opposes the Vivax lynch.

I think the key here is to combine town players to shoot Vivax and lynch Koshi or the other way round.


I don't understand. I guess I can see have some townies coordinate to kill koshi (but then mafia can protect so...) but I don't see a problem with lynching Vivax and having a secondary lynch just in case he's telling the truth. If he's not, then what did town lose? I'm having trouble seeing the downside.

He's literally the only one talking sense on mechanics. Vivax is a guaranteed lynch, just keep enough on him and pressure someone else is quite valuable as proved on Lunatic reactions later on.

On October 24 2016 06:37 Tubesock wrote:
My scum list is scummiest to least:

Vivax, Skynx, Koshi
Hamaztubo, Lord Tolkien

Ritoky, GlowingBear
Sicklucker

My biggest problem with this is they are all lurkers. Rereading Acrofales, Dandel Ion, iamperfection I just can't see how they could be mafia. Statistically though, it's improbable that mafia are all lurkers.

I think everyone in the game would kill HF if they were mafia, so it's not really informative that HF scummed: Vivax, Skynx and Koshi (also Art, beenthere,Lunat, ExO, Kurumi, GB, WoS). But if they are mafia then it would be double motivation to kill HF. Koshi already claimed hitting him.

NocturneMage was clearly tryhard so that's a good reason to kill him too. He also scummed Koshi, Skynx and Vivax. Along with Lunatic and was suspicious of Kurumi, GB, TL, ExO, Bill, Hazmatubo.

The kills also implicate Kurumi, ExO and GB. I eliminated kurumi and ExO but don't really remember why. HF was warming up to GB.

So, anyone want to talk about LT, Ritoky, or GlowingBear? I think Hazmatubo will be replaced, and I think Sicklucker will be figured out a little bit better later. (I'm right about Siclucker 50% of the time 70% of the time)


His points are all valid here. Thats one important thing about not being mafia: mafia has to jump on wrong conclusions to lynch town but they have to make up reasons for that cuz they know the information. HF and NM kills do indicate Koshi, Vivax, Lunatic and me. The whole post just adds up, I'm town but i played bad D1 so sr'ing me would make sense in that regard, rest are mafia anyways.

I mean actually just read his this and previous page in filters, there is no way this guy is mafia he's clearly trying to solve the game.

"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 25 2016 20:02 GMT
#3509
On October 26 2016 04:56 Dandel Ion wrote:
because that post would have been more believable just about 20 hours earlier probably

What difference there is between posting now and after flip?

If you talking about my activity yeah shit happens uni was busy yesterday I couldn't sit on computer at all, tough shit.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 25 2016 20:05 GMT
#3510
said 20 hours

not really but it doesnt help
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 25 2016 20:06 GMT
#3511
iamp moves up on my town rank. Read 135-140, there is just no way this guy is mafia.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 25 2016 20:07 GMT
#3512
On October 26 2016 05:05 Dandel Ion wrote:
said 20 hours

not really but it doesnt help

I don't see what you mean, you clearly think I'm talking bullshit right now but somehow I made these posts 2 hours after flip you would think they were legit shit?

Thats what your original quote is saying.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 25 2016 20:09 GMT
#3513
maybe
it wouldnt make them such
but i may be mad and not notice
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 25 2016 20:10 GMT
#3514
Koshi rage is bollocks. No one should buy it cmon guys...

On October 24 2016 21:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 21:39 ExO_ wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:35 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
Could that ability be a mafia ability, too?

Everything can be mafia, my hero is pretty mafia aka evil, but it is 100% FUCKING PRO TOWN 100% CONFIRMED HOLY SHIT.

lynch Koshi next he's full of shit

One can not be this fucking dense.

##unvote
##Vote ExO_

"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 25 2016 20:11 GMT
#3515
On October 24 2016 22:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 22:17 ptmc wrote:
On October 24 2016 22:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
every lurker is scum until they prove otherwise


I agree. I don't feel strongly for a Skynx-Lynch (only read his filter, did I miss a case?)
Lunatic however is still only a weird tunneling lurker, which would be a fine second lynch.

## vote lunaticman

I agree Lunatic is the worst of the bunch. And this also beyond doubt proofs I am 100% confirmed town.

##unvote
## vote lunaticman

Then sheep ptmc to switch nice one bro.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 25 2016 20:14 GMT
#3516
Koshi is confirmed by ultimate meta to be mafia guys. None of his play adds up.

Please don't get lost in emotional shit/rage/spam and all that. This is not how he plays its fucking scripted. There is no cases, lists, last wills no nothing, nothing. He's a town pillar when he is actually town, he's now just trying to survive and spread chaos. I'm comfortable enough on this to take bets.

Please kill after Vivax.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
October 25 2016 20:23 GMT
#3517
Wat
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 25 2016 20:24 GMT
#3518
On October 24 2016 23:56 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 23:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 24 2016 23:48 Lunaticman wrote:
Also either of Art and Koshi are mafia so you remember when I die.


I have asked this of you before, but why?


The lynch on Koshi day one should have been successful, he played awful and was way to engaged for a regular townie. His tone and meta is/was way to easy to read. Just look at him now, using game mechanics to scare you into not lynching him. The mafia obviously saved him by going for HF:s lynch instead day 1.

Art is purely based on HF, you were a 100% lock scum read. I have no reason why I shouldn't trust HF:s read.




Rels got replaced EoD1, posting only once. So Artanis did enough in one nightphase to confirm himself to HF of all people and this is your reason for last will???

Koshi I agree but bus is bus.

Lynch after Vivax.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
October 25 2016 20:26 GMT
#3519
Hi
brain=dead. We still murdering Vivax at night ye?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18180 Posts
October 25 2016 20:27 GMT
#3520
It's more that people moaning about the sad state of the game are usually scum gloating about how well they are doing. Town might rage at a mislynch, but don't usually wallow. That post felt as if it was wallowing.
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