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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
On October 25 2016 19:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also I'm confused. You think I hit you, am lying about it but also think I'm town? wut? Redirects are possible. However why do you think Koshi townreads you? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18097 Posts
On October 25 2016 19:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also I'm confused. You think I hit you, am lying about it but also think I'm town? wut? Exactly. Too many inconsistencies in Koshi's claims. Kill with fire. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18097 Posts
On October 25 2016 19:38 beentheredonethat wrote: Redirects are possible. However why do you think Koshi townreads you? 3 minutes earlier... On October 25 2016 19:35 Koshi wrote: Well I figured that out. Was fun. imo kill Vivax/Luna first. Afterthat ritoky/sicklucker/skynx/Acro. the ones who don't die and don't have damage done to them. If sicklucker is town, he should check heroes for being full hp. Endgame it is up to people to find the mafia in LT/Hama and others. If WoS is mafia it is perfect for him that he can't post. I almost can't believe it lasts till forever. sicklucker probably knows it only last for 1 phase or so. Rupture isn't forever. | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
That is not an Artanis townread. | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
Since apparently there are a bunch of towns claiming anti-townie abilities, nyeh. I'll go with gut as opposed to role analysis and peg SL as town. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On October 25 2016 19:36 beentheredonethat wrote: I think sicklucker is town. What do you think about my reasoning, 1-3 pages ago? I think he is playing extremely bad and I didn't forget his waffle on me. So he can die. If he is town he should do exactly what I say. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On October 25 2016 19:40 beentheredonethat wrote: That is not an Artanis townread. He's not scumreading me, or scumreading 8 people harder than me. That qualifies. | ||
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ptmc
Finland306 Posts
On October 25 2016 19:38 Acrofales wrote: Exactly. Too many inconsistencies in Koshi's claims. Kill with fire. there is literally no inconsistency in it. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18097 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On October 25 2016 19:37 ptmc wrote: He thinks you didn't have a choice. If I did end up attacking him I was not informed of it nor did I submit any AA action in any way. | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
Koshi Lunatic Skynx He says one mafia hides in the following players: Exo BM Tolkien Hamazura Kurumi GlowingBear 80% of his filter was about Koshi. I get paranoid about my townread again. If Koshi doesn't die this night AND if we get Vivax/Lunatic dead, I think Koshi is actually a good flip to gain information. I have reasons to townread Koshi and I stated them. On the other hand, the whole sudden passive thing is just matching too good. Also, a lot of people received 5 damage as others said. I'm really torn here. I think a Koshi flip is a good thing at this point, simply for "let's be sure" reasons. On the other hand, I don't want to waste his ability as I feel like a double lynch (town) is legit balance wise vs. a no lynch enforcement (scum). In a perfect world, we get Lunativ and Vivax killed this night, followed up by most likely losing town!Koshi. This would actually be great. To be honest, Koshi's passive is fun, but mine is even funnier. Attackers will have fun if they attack me this night  . | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
Acro, ptmc, as you stay on a hard Koshi scumread, please elaborate in a big case post which we can evaluate. I am not able to put the work in right now as I'm on lunch break at work - and I'd really like to see where exactly there is inconsistency. Koshi, please put in the work and summarize in a clean and readable and insult-free post what exactly your passive is, who attacked you and claimed to have received 5 damage, and let me know why you were so shit D1. Please, Koshi, if you're town, don't refuse this. | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On October 25 2016 19:40 beentheredonethat wrote: Still trying to figure out why NoctzrbeMage died. Four possible explanations. I'm spoilering this because it's some people think speculating NK motives is scummy and I CANT TRY AND LOOK LIKE SCUM NOW CAN I. + Show Spoiler + 1) It's either they rolechecked him D1 (would make sense to rolecheck players-about-to-be-replaced D1 sorta), found out he's rolecop, and killed him 2) A good set of reads or something in his brief burst of N1 posts. 3) "player meta", either he's an infamously good town player or someone who's familiar with wanted him dead/thought he was a threat (former based on super quick game history suggests no [4 newbie+1 non-newbie mafia games], latter has GlowingBear [2 games and 2 coach], Artanis [2 co-host, 2 coach], ritoky [1 game] with prior history) 4) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ throw off town? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Unless we get at least one or two flips off on his scum reads it's really hard to say and I vote we don't try thinking about it too hard unless you want to go down the rabbit hole. | ||
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ptmc
Finland306 Posts
On October 25 2016 19:53 beentheredonethat wrote: Acro, ptmc, as you stay on a hard Koshi scumread, please elaborate in a big case post which we can evaluate. I am not able to put the work in right now as I'm on lunch break at work - and I'd really like to see where exactly there is inconsistency. Koshi, please put in the work and summarize in a clean and readable and insult-free post what exactly your passive is, who attacked you and claimed to have received 5 damage, and let me know why you were so shit D1. Please, Koshi, if you're town, don't refuse this. I'm not scum-reading Koshi? I think he is more likely town but about to die soon. I also really dislike either acros posts or his reading comprehension. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18097 Posts
On October 25 2016 19:57 beentheredonethat wrote: Also, why exactly are we all townreading ptmc? Please point me to the post that confirmed him. It's mod wifom. But I think it's probably true. On October 21 2016 23:36 ptmc wrote: I have healing targeting specifically one of them, and i would like to know if you are among them. If you don't want to tell me i'll just have to try at some point. And in response: On October 22 2016 01:33 AFK Jungle wrote: Another thing on this. If your ability has any restrictions you may not say what those restrictions are. If your ability targets only dire. You may not say this. You can ask someone if they are dire. But you may not say why you are asking. Doing so past this point will result in you losing that ability. Yes we are reading the game. Usually in themed games, this type of warnings and restrictions are given so that town can't use ability claims to break the game. It was triggered by ptmc, and thus ptmc is most likely town. | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
This guy comes on my scum pile. Also, Skynx, as he dropped again under the radar and I cannot tell if he actually did something this game or not. He's absolutely unmemorable and I don't think that this is good. Dandel posted in a not-really-contributing way D2. Was happy with having voted and did some banter, including gems like "u fokkin wat mate??". Then, some sicklucker stuff, mainly about having two actions. Which actually is an interesting point. I can do one action per cycle. Sicklucker claims to have done two in one cycle? The more I hear about this guy the more I want him dead. He's just creating more and more confusion (nevertheless I think he's actually town). Well, Dandel... yeah, no, that's not enough for a town read. Bill Murray at this point goes on the "lynch/kill idc" pile, i.e. scum. Self-explanatory. Not participating at all, he should be modkilled as soon as possible. It's absolutely frustrating to have such players in a game where you put effort in. I still haven't got a final judgement of Artanis. It's interesting that he seemingly was fine with believing Koshi's claim D2 (telling me even that Koshi's rage is town indicative for him) yet he's neither hard defending nor is he pushing him. He's wishywashy at best at this point. Also, he's hard townreading ritoky for meta reasons which I absolutely do not like. Tubesock and Acro are in his "people-that-are-present-and-kinda-doing-things range" which he claims to be a town lean - and with that, he never looked into them again. Hard scumread on Vivax, soft defense on Lunatic, meta reasons again. Gets called out for that Lunatic meta read tho and gets proven wrong. Decides to townread Acro, puts Wave into the center of attention and townreads him, townreads Sicklucker, too. After all, his filter has a lot of reads which are kinda ballsy and not exactly thread-sentimenty. Artanis comes on the town pile now. ExO_ completely disappeared. Four pages of filter. Lynch or kill, who cares. There we go, scum list. Acro stays town. Another update: beentheredonethat Koshi sicklucker Artanis Acrofales Vivax Lunaticman HamazuraXTakitsubo ritoky Skynx Bill Murray ExO_ 4 iamperfection 9 Dandel Ion 10 Koroko 13 Kurumi 14 Hopeless1der 17 Tubesock 19 GlowingBear 20 Lord Tolkien 22 WaveofShadow So far, so good. Lunch break over. Will look into the guys I haven't a clear read on. | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
On October 25 2016 20:03 ptmc wrote: I'm not scum-reading Koshi? I think he is more likely town but about to die soon. I also really dislike either acros posts or his reading comprehension. Bad reading comprehension on my part. I read "There's literally no consistency in it". But you wrote "There's literally no inconsistency in it". My bad. | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
On October 25 2016 20:02 Lord Tolkien wrote: Four possible explanations. I'm spoilering this because it's some people think speculating NK motives is scummy and I CANT TRY AND LOOK LIKE SCUM NOW CAN I. + Show Spoiler + 1) It's either they rolechecked him D1 (would make sense to rolecheck players-about-to-be-replaced D1 sorta), found out he's rolecop, and killed him 2) A good set of reads or something in his brief burst of N1 posts. 3) "player meta", either he's an infamously good town player or someone who's familiar with wanted him dead/thought he was a threat (former based on super quick game history suggests no [4 newbie+1 non-newbie mafia games], latter has GlowingBear [2 games and 2 coach], Artanis [2 co-host, 2 coach], ritoky [1 game] with prior history) 4) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ throw off town? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Unless we get at least one or two flips off on his scum reads it's really hard to say and I vote we don't try thinking about it too hard unless you want to go down the rabbit hole. Can't tell what I do not like about this post besides "everything" somehow. I can't get a grap on why exactly it's bad but I feel like it's bad. | ||
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