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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 26 2016 21:16 GMT
#4106
On October 27 2016 06:14 Koshi wrote:
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On October 27 2016 06:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:12 Acrofales wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:04 Acrofales wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm really starting to wonder if there's any scum actually in the game.

It's not a bastard game (at least, it doesn't say so in the OP). So yes.

A bunch of 3rd parties could be considered an alternative to mafia though?

You're not making a case for yourself being a benevolent 3P... a bunch of separate 3Ps *could* take the place of a scumteam, but only if they are malevolent: cultists, SKs, stuff like that.

I know that GB and I are not like that. We had our own little game, and we will be out of the picture soon.

Just trying to explore the wtf so many 3rd party angle. It doesn't even make any sense for my own role since I can win with both town and scum so I'm not even making any sense to myself @_@

Why do you believe ritoky is 3p?

Because ritoky claimed 3P Meepo?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 26 2016 21:20 GMT
#4119
On October 27 2016 06:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Or Lunatic. Forgot all about Lunatic.
Lunatic or Kurumi? Which is the better shot?

I think Lunatic already took more damage. Funny story: yesterday I was almost certain Lunatic was my enemy and about to just shoot him in the face rather than actually checkin him, because some things made sense. But I checked him and the rest is history. Anyway, that means he's probably just scum.

Kurumi is playing even less than normal. Good chance he's also scum, but I wouldn't be surprised if he flips town or 5th party planar dragon.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 26 2016 21:23 GMT
#4126
On October 27 2016 06:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On October 27 2016 06:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:14 Acrofales wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:10 Acrofales wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
What role do you believe GB is?

Tell me what ranged heroes you have to deal damage to, and I'll see if I can help you.

Wait so you're not going to kill GB now?

Don't care how he dies. As long as he dies before I do, I win. And I have the instant killshot, so if people threaten shenannies, I'll just fire and tap out. If not, you're stuck with both of us for another 24h and I'll shoot at the deadline to not have to take another shitton of damage at the resolution period and risk actually dying.

But you're going to use it this phase?
Do you have to be the one to kill him?
If not we can try and stack on him for you and you can use your big shot on someone of our choosing, no?

If I were him I wouldn't risk it. Jussayin'.

On October 27 2016 06:19 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On October 27 2016 06:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:14 Acrofales wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:10 Acrofales wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
What role do you believe GB is?

Tell me what ranged heroes you have to deal damage to, and I'll see if I can help you.

Wait so you're not going to kill GB now?

Don't care how he dies. As long as he dies before I do, I win. And I have the instant killshot, so if people threaten shenannies, I'll just fire and tap out. If not, you're stuck with both of us for another 24h and I'll shoot at the deadline to not have to take another shitton of damage at the resolution period and risk actually dying.

But you're going to use it this phase?
Do you have to be the one to kill him?
If not we can try and stack on him for you and you can use your big shot on someone of our choosing, no?

apparantly its only 40 dmg on anybody else if that was what ptmc was hit with
so that's about as much as we would have thrown on GB probs
dont make no difference

These smart people already answered for me.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 26 2016 21:25 GMT
#4127
On October 27 2016 06:20 Koshi wrote:
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On October 27 2016 02:43 Koshi wrote:
On October 26 2016 13:07 GlowingBear wrote:
WoS, dandelion, skynx, Exo, lunaticman

Probs mafia team

Vivax, Acrofoles, skynx, ritoky, lunaticman

I am pretty much 5/5 anti town

This came after ritoky claimed and I am not anti-town. So poo.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 26 2016 21:35 GMT
#4134
On October 27 2016 03:21 Koshi wrote:
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On October 22 2016 13:39 HamazuraXTakitsubo wrote:
We were supposed to be in the night phase now right? Can anyone explain what happened to that?

Let's call this guy town. He was also arguing with HF during the night. Don't think a newb scum would do that.

He wasn't arguing with HF? He asked 2 questions that weren't even particularly critical.

And regarding his question about the night: I think it's more likely scum is irritated by people talking through the night if they think it should be silent (he's new to the TLMafia), than town. But scum would probably ask a host directly rather than throw it in the thread, so there is that too.

Anyway, he's cruising for a modkill. I wouldn't waste damage or thought on him.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 26 2016 21:44 GMT
#4142
On October 27 2016 06:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
This seems pretty silly tbh
They just shoot into the last few remaining active townies and auto win

Hey, don't blame me. I soaked up a shitload of scum KP last night.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 26 2016 21:46 GMT
#4147
On October 27 2016 06:45 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 06:44 Acrofales wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
This seems pretty silly tbh
They just shoot into the last few remaining active townies and auto win

Hey, don't blame me. I soaked up a shitload of scum KP last night.

Do you know how much?

No, but I was at 49 before last night, and when I flip you'll figure out why I don't know how much
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 26 2016 21:51 GMT
#4158
On October 27 2016 06:47 ritoky wrote:
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On October 27 2016 05:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 27 2016 04:09 ritoky wrote:
GB what exact results do your investigations return? Alignment? Name? Role? Enemy/not enemy?


Enemy/not enemy


And how did you get 3 total checks from 4 phases and only 2 of them being night? Also, why check hamalamadindong when you have literal 0 mentions of him in your entire filter?

We get a check every phase. I checked WoS, kurumi, H1 and luna. Was going to check artanis or GB this phase, but I figured my enemy was probably Hama (only one that hasn't moved, and hasn't claimed attacks or other night actions that seem to check out).
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 26 2016 22:35 GMT
#4167
16 town, 4 scum, 4 "neutral" 3p doesn't sound balanced. If we assume the 3p are at worst a distraction for town, then this means a town:scum ratio of 4:1. This is very town favored, More likely is 15:5 for a 3:1 ratio. Expect a 5man scumteam, and/or some nasty 3p shenannies.

@ptmc: my check is completely useless for helping town or scum. It only informs me about whether the target is my enemy or not.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 27 2016 06:32 GMT
#4194
On October 27 2016 11:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
So paranoia has kicked in.

Acro I'd really appreciate if you could do away with GB with enough time left in the day for us to organize ourselves.
It's not that I don't trust you, but I don't trust you.


Guys, unless Acro does this, I expect you to be stacking KP onto GB. Doesn't seem too unreasonable.

Yeah. No problem.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 27 2016 08:06 GMT
#4195
Ok. D1 movement is still bizar. Given the claims, it just doesn't make sense. GB claims role blocked, so my best bet is Rubik lifted him, and he landed where he landed.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 27 2016 12:07 GMT
#4226
If scum has a multiple no-lynch ability the balance for this game is fucked. Forget it. It's a one-off. Probably like Lina's ultimate non-refundable if roleblocked too.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 27 2016 12:09 GMT
#4227
Also, don't count on gb or my vote for the lynch or whatever koshi claims he can do.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 27 2016 13:57 GMT
#4237
On October 27 2016 21:56 disformation wrote:
We went and triple checked all the movements and discovered an error we made in the resolution of D1 movement. The result of D1 movement should have been:

1 Bill Murray
2 Rels
3 Dandel Ion
4 Holyflare
5 Skynx
6 iamperfection
7 beentheredonethat
8 Lunaticman
9 HamazuraXTakitsubo
10 ptmc
11 ExO_
12 Acrofales
13 Eversince
14 Kurumi
15 Hopeless1der
16 sicklucker
17 WaveofShadow
18 ritoky
19 Vivax
20 Koshi
21 GlowingBear

22 Tubesock
23 Lord Tolkien

All the other movement is correct based on the D1 result we gave you.

Again we are terribly sorry.


Think this makes even less sense with the claims, but my spreadsheet and my phone don't like each other very much. :/
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 27 2016 14:00 GMT
#4238
On October 27 2016 22:57 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 21:56 disformation wrote:
We went and triple checked all the movements and discovered an error we made in the resolution of D1 movement. The result of D1 movement should have been:

1 Bill Murray
2 Rels
3 Dandel Ion
4 Holyflare
5 Skynx
6 iamperfection
7 beentheredonethat
8 Lunaticman
9 HamazuraXTakitsubo
10 ptmc
11 ExO_
12 Acrofales
13 Eversince
14 Kurumi
15 Hopeless1der
16 sicklucker
17 WaveofShadow
18 ritoky
19 Vivax
20 Koshi
21 GlowingBear

22 Tubesock
23 Lord Tolkien

All the other movement is correct based on the D1 result we gave you.

Again we are terribly sorry.


Think this makes even less sense with the claims, but my spreadsheet and my phone don't like each other very much. :/


Ok, makes sense if LT was roleblocked. I didn't see him claim roleblocked tho...
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 27 2016 14:08 GMT
#4239
Oh. He probably didn't basic WoS, but shuriken'd him. Then it checks out.

Just ExO_'s movement is wonky on D1. Don't trust him too much despite that early town feel. His films progressively bad, and someone hit me for 7 on D1 and didn't claim it.

On D2, Skynx and iamp switched places for no claimed reason. No clue what to make of that either.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 27 2016 14:51 GMT
#4243
Also, I won't ever be able to use my sentry ward, so I might as well tell everyone exactly how they work.

I received a sentry ward at the start of N2. I figured a townie gave it to me, but it might be the mods distribute items randomly. It is a one-off watcher ability that can onlybe used at night. It is returned if roleblocked and doesn't mention redirection at all. It can't be given away and counts as an action. If you talk about the item before using it, it disappears. The ward goes to the grave with me if i die.

I believe ritoky really is actually neutral 3p mainly because of the claim. Scum/SK wouldn't use a sentry ward if they got it, and koshi targeting himself panned out. Ritoky and koshi being in the same team could be, but given the heat on koshi, is stupidly risky play. So ritokynot scum.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 27 2016 15:20 GMT
#4247
Get ritoky and exo to vote loonie. That's 9-4. Coerce Kurumi to switch. Vivax won't help town, and the fact that he's not happily voting Luna makes me more confident Luna is also scum. I doubt hamazumumuzu is still playing. Mb 1 person switching is still safe, to make it 8-5. That's fairly safe to vote rigging shenanigans: it would require 2 ppl to switch.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 27 2016 15:22 GMT
#4248
Bleh. If Kurumi votes Luna, it's 9-5. 1 person switching is 8-6, but even 1 vote being rigged would still lynch Vivax, because he'd be first.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18106 Posts
October 27 2016 15:57 GMT
#4252
Btdt claimed he'd hit Luna before he died (8 dmg if not roleblocked). Luna claimed 5 dmg on D2. If there was anything else, I didn't add it to my spreadsheet.
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