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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 25 2016 22:49 GMT
#3596
Iamp he's fine leave him alone

I have things we need to do
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 25 2016 22:54 GMT
#3603
Need a bit
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 25 2016 23:00 GMT
#3607
It makes sense. I absolutely believe his claim. Give me like 30 min I'm going to post a bunch.

I'm also going to need to know if anyone attacked me this time around.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 25 2016 23:41 GMT
#3609
I just wrote up some balance whine but I'll save it for postgame. Suffice it to say there are things in this game which I believe should have been done differently.

Only somewhat related is, how in all that is holy has hamazura not been modkilled yet?

Ritoky is he a Meepo clone and not actually a real player or something?

Anyway, moving on.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 00:00 GMT
#3610
##vote: Vivax

My list as of last night still stands, except without the giant bold red letters on sicklucker.
Assuming most (if not all) of the town believes I am town as well, why exactly did so many people still shoot into LT tonight? I suppose I can't blame you guys entirely, but Tubesock you especially (assuming you did the brunt of the damage) wasting a massive KP for town on him when I didn't list him as scum----especially when you've had me hard town forever? Bleh.

Anyway, THIS LIST, in case people have ignored it so far:

Vivax
Glowingbear
Lunatic
Kurumi
Exo
Hamazura (???)
Artanis
sicklucker
Koshi


They all need to die. In something like this order, preferably. (I added Exo)

Glowingbear is scum.
I have confirmed this, and no, you don't need to know how.
Why am I claiming this now when Vivax is already up?
In case other people have some daytime stuff we can do to remove him. I'd give Koshi a chance here to do his thing today, but the reason he is on the list, is as I stated last night, it is nearly impossible to tell if he performed the no lynch action himself or if it was instigated by scum. If he is able to do it again today, we'll obviously know but until he proves himself town somehow (since a secret vote-damage-killing ability is not even remotely solely pro-town like he says) he needs to be on the block. As I believe he is likely at low life, this shouldn't be difficult.

There are probably one or two people I'm missing and maybe someone who's wrong on there. The lurk makes things fairly difficult, but I don't believe I am massively wrong. The people who are under some amount of suspicion like Ritoky (who I have zero reason not to believe his claim), Skynx, Tubesock and Bill Murray I am fine with.

As far as sicklucker---ugh. What I said about him last night is basically true. He's in Koshi tier right now because I can't be absolutely certain he isn't being the ballsiest scum ever---I could swear he has flat out claimed or made massive fakeclaims as scum before and had it work out for him. I don't know why I think this either but I'm not going to do the legwork involved. If somebody else wants to they're more than welcome. In any case, probabyl low priority right now but eventually he may have to be removed.

Iamp you're in HF tier for me right now---that is I'm a little paranoid. You're universally townread I believe and since you can't be 3P anymore (probably) the fact that you're still alive and mostly unscathed is concerning, but not to such a degree that I;m willing to even remotely focus on you above anyone else I've listed. Just some thoughts for the future (and I say HF tier because I'm sure you could be thinking the same about me if you're town---this is how HF and I play every game together. Neither of us ever truly trust the other.)

I can't be certain if protection was used on me last night (well I can, but you guys don't need to know how I'd know that either) but I didn't take any damage. Don't claim if you helped me out.

Random thoughts:
Scum KP likely works (I hope) similarly to how I did it in LoL mafia. There is likely some large amount of factional KP (whether this has to be delivered is a hosting choice I guess, and only somewhat relevant right now), and hopefully this can be reduced once we finally start picking them off. I would say if they can somehow prevent Vivax from dying AGAIN today we're probably super fucked because it seems as though they decided to chunk a few people last night instead of outright killing any one person just in case of protection. As such, use protection accordingly.

I should be able to do a bunch more going forward assuming I'm not silenced again or somebody does something real derpy.

I know this was kinda disjointed but I wanted to get some thoughts out while they were somewhat fresh.
There might be more.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 00:03 GMT
#3611
On October 26 2016 07:17 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 07:13 Hopeless1der wrote:
I got bloody trucked. Good lord.

##vote: Vivax

I don't believe you.

Well, that's not true. I just don't believe scum could have hit you. I got hit for a metric fuckton and btdt died, almost certainly to scum damage.

Like I said, depending on HP values and between scum factional KP and abilities this is entirely possible, and I have no reason to believe the both of you didn't eat it tonight.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 00:07 GMT
#3612
What I wouldn't mind primarily if people don't blindly want to listen to me, is to discuss why my list shouldn't be followed, or to discuss any potential way we can try to organize ourselves a little better as a town. It's my belief that the balance mechanics (such as they are) heavily rely on a fairly organized town, though in a completely closed setup such as this without an effective way of communicating what our potentials might be, I feel pretty gimped.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 00:25 GMT
#3615
On October 26 2016 09:18 iamperfection wrote:
if koshi can still use his thing i have no problem putting gb in the second slot. GB has already taken damage

Yes he has.

Yesterday was just a no-lynch, right?
If it was vote-rigger we risk that shit happening again, no? They won't be able to use a no lynch ability twice (or if they can I just quit right now), but a vote-rigger in theory could mess us up again? Actually probably not because even if they took away votes or nullified some or whatever it still wouldn't have cause a no lynch. I'm going to assume we're safe and Koshi's ability, if true, is safe as well.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 00:25 GMT
#3616
Oh I wanted to look at the vote analysis thing btdt started. Gotta do that before DnD tonight
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 00:27 GMT
#3617
Also who was btdt attacking with his power? Koshi? The both of them should be nearly dead I think.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 00:38 GMT
#3624
This is gold, actually.

Tictock (8); Vivax, Holyflare, iamperfection, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock, Dandel Ion, ritoky, Bill Murray, Koshi, beentheredonethat
Koshi (4): Lunaticman, beentheredonethat, Skynx, TubeSock, beentheredonethat, sicklucker
Lunaticman (1): ritoky, Koshi, HamazuraXTakitsubo, sicklucker, Skynx
Vivax (2): Tubesock, iamperfection, Hopeless1der, Koshi, Acrofales, Dandel Ion
Lord Tolkien (2): Kurumi, WaveofShadow
WaveofShadow (1): ExO_, Bill Murray, ptmc
Dandel Ion (1): beentheredonethat, ExO_
ritoky (1): Holyflare, Koshi, GlowingBear


Look at the votes, and compare them to my list.

Tictock (8); Vivax, Holyflare, iamperfection, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock, Dandel Ion, ritoky, Bill Murray, Koshi, beentheredonethat
Koshi (4): Lunaticman, beentheredonethat, Skynx, TubeSock, beentheredonethat, sicklucker
Lunaticman (1): ritoky, Koshi, HamazuraXTakitsubo, sicklucker, Skynx
Vivax (2): Tubesock, iamperfection, Hopeless1der, Koshi, Acrofales, Dandel Ion
Lord Tolkien (2): Kurumi, WaveofShadow
WaveofShadow (1): ExO_, Bill Murray, ptmc
Dandel Ion (1): beentheredonethat, ExO_
ritoky (1): Holyflare, Koshi, GlowingBear






I mean, call it confirmation bias if you want, but it looks REEEEAAAALLL good to me.
No scum on Vivax, everyone else spread way the hell out.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 00:38 GMT
#3627
On October 26 2016 09:32 sicklucker wrote:
also how is wave of shadow talking too much? did I only stop him from posting at night? what a useless ability I have

Sit the fuck down sicklucker and let people who aren't actively trying to ruin things win the game, k?

You're free to spend another 4 pages speculating over completely useless bullshit though.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 00:40 GMT
#3628
On October 26 2016 09:38 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 09:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also who was btdt attacking with his power? Koshi? The both of them should be nearly dead I think.


Been attacked Lunaticman. + Show Spoiler +
On October 26 2016 01:16 beentheredonethat wrote:

We should attack the fuck out of Vivax and Luna and I really want town to coordinate attacks. I will attack Lunatic. Sicklucker, ptmc, WoS, please do so, too, with the maximum attack damage you have. Dandel, iamp, Acro, please attack Vivax. Artanis, you too.

Putting this out here again.


GB and Koshi should be fairly low health sans heals.

Oh that's very interesting.
Did Lunatic ever claim being hit before?
Who did btdt attack before? Was it Koshi? I guess I was assuming he'd try to max out his power by going for the same person both nights but if thought Koshi was scum D1 and then not D2 that obviously makes sense
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 00:41 GMT
#3629
On October 26 2016 09:38 sicklucker wrote:
wos list is pretty good with the potential exception of the back end of it

Yes, the back end I'm the least sure of comparatively.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 00:45 GMT
#3630
Randomly trying to figure out why they killed Nocturnemage and I can't figure it out.
I'm guess Vivax not leading the scumteam here could be part of it?

Not that I think NM was useless or anything but he just REALLY wouldn't have been my first choice of NK. Protection avoidance I guess?

DnD in 15 minutes guys come on, someone read my vote thing
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 00:49 GMT
#3631
Also note Lunaticman's vote even on D2.

LOL that vote just looks so unbelievably awful.

Him or GB next for sure.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 00:53 GMT
#3634
On October 26 2016 09:52 Tubesock wrote:
Hmmm...someone was calling for having 1 vote on Koshi D2, so it might not be too awful. And Lunat is still scumming Koshi pretty hard.

If the former is true it's not AS bad.
The latter is terrible if everyone had agreed that Vivax was confirmed scum, especially since Lunatic has been doing it the entire game. I've already posted about this before but scum are way more likely to stick with a read through hell or high water than town because they're generally more afraid to look bad for swapping around all the time, plus it's easier not to have to make reads on other people when you pretend you're a rabid dog.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 00:55 GMT
#3635
LOL if they haven't modkilled hamazura because he's scum
He also technically fits having left a random vote on Lunatic but I didn't include him in the analysis on purpose because afk is afk
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 01:06 GMT
#3636
Aaaand kurumi just scumclaimed
haha man this game just got easy
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 02:12 GMT
#3641
On October 26 2016 11:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 11:05 ritoky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 2


Vivax (10): iamperfection, Acrofales, Dandel Ion, Skynx, ExO_, Hopeless1der, Koshi, Tubesock, WaveofShadow, Bill Murray, Skynx, beentheredonethat, sicklucker, Tubesock, GlowingBear
Lunaticman (8): Koshi, ptmc, Koshi, Artanis[xP], Hopeless1der, Kurumi, ritoky, Lord Tolkien, beentheredonethat
Koshi (1): Lunaticman
Tubesock (1): Vivax
iamperfection (0): GlowingBear
HamazuraXTakitsubo (0): beentheredonethat
Lord Tolkien (0): Kurumi
Exo_ (0): Koshi
GlowingBear (0): Artanis[xP]
Skynx (0): Koshi, Hopeless1der, Skynx, Artanis[xP], Tubesock

Not voted (1): HamazuraXTakitsubo,

Well Vivax was about to be owned...but now we have a problem on our hands....

how do your reads translate to this vote count wos?

It literally doesnt matter since scum negated the lynch.

Mostly irrelevant because the lynch was predetermined for ages, and people were told what they had to do more or less.

Why, did you have any thoughts on the matter?


For that matter does anyone else?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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