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On October 24 2016 23:11 Vivax wrote:
I submitted my last will now I'm enjoying my last few hours of death row. At least that's what I believed.
Entertain me town.
No you dance for me.
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What were your actions vivax
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On October 24 2016 23:13 iamperfection wrote:
What were your actions vivax
Basic attack on Koshi D1. Nothing N1.
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On October 24 2016 23:15 Vivax wrote:Basic attack on Koshi D1. Nothing N1.
What do you mean nothing
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Nothing means nothing. I skipped an action.
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On October 24 2016 23:19 Vivax wrote:
Nothing means nothing. I skipped an action.
Why
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Cause Bibax was at the glacier bro
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Like why at the very least wouldn't you basic attack?
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On October 24 2016 23:00 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 22:35 Vivax wrote:
The good:
1. Hopeless.
He played and actually cared. I've never seen him care this much I believe. Last time he was mafia he behaved and talked like a guy standing dazed in front of a naked specimen of his preferred gender, then fell unconscious and nobody ever heard of him since. He is completely incapable of playing as mafia.
2. Iamperfection. I honestly have no clue how he plays mafia. But I somehow always know when he's town. Maybe he just always rolls town, maybe I'm just this good. It certainly has nothing to do with the way he plays. But he's town. He's obnoxious towards suspicious people and frantically searches remote places for mafia. He has this righteous, condescending tone in his posts.
3. Artanis. He's serious. There's no playing around. It's the empire mafia criterion. He'll just fool around and joke rather than get to work this blatantly as mafia. So I'm doing this call just based on that. I don't think I've seen a single gif? Maybe he's ill, most certainly he's being a good townie boy his parents would be proud of.
4. Dandel. Don't ask me why, I don't think I have a logical reason to TR him it's just what feels right.
5. Exo. I liked how he went after Wave D1 with the bar example and shit. Very aggressive overall but I think that in that too calm town atmosphere he did something scum wouldn't have done: Stir things up.
The ugly:
1. Bill Murray. This guy can just do what the hell he wants cause nobody ever had any clue how to read him in the history of mafia. He actually can have decent reads as town and be scary as mafia. Just the type of guy you will get insane over at a situation like lylo. Good luck boys.
Kurumi: Not that ugly actually. His lists had a meaning, and he bothered to start communicating normally afterwards. He doesn't feel the urge to do that as mafia. If anything, when he's mafia he just trolls, posts gibberish and doesn't give a damn about your opinion. On the good side of ugly.
KamasutraXTacoshopu:
Dunno, really. Focuses on superficial things like a newbie would do (shitposters=mafia, helpful=town). Hasn't yet mastered the art of saying "I am". He's the descartian nightmare, but it seems like it's a sentient being. I'm going with town for his focus on superficial things however, seems natural enough.
LordTolkien:
It bothers me that his initial list are people he would lynch just cause he doesn't know them. If he knows how to read the other people, he should certainly be able to find scum among them? Seems like a minor rebuttal, but is telling for laziness and has shown that he rather would make a very shallow list. Wanting to lynch kurumi for the emotes is also very superficial. They actually meant something if he bothered to figure it out.
Later on he plays some thread police, posts some stuff related to game mechanics, talks about germans in lederhosen, puts up the lynch mob face for Koshi. Alrighty, if he's mafia he's doing splendidly. I can't tell for sure yet.
Acrofales: He's just here cause he's ugly. I'm firmly convinced he is. Actually I just don't want to read his posts too much unfounded hate, this guy is just a bully and bullies don't deserve attention, just basic attacks.
Koshi: Felt really underwhelming at the beginning. Lacked too much third person and typical strongheadedness. But I have seen Koshi being like this as town, actually. He's just not very consistent in his tone, and just activity wise I think he looks townie enough. Plus if his claim is real, a double lynch doesn't seem like a mafia ability. So I'm leaving him kinda in between. I feel like he's becoming more townie as time passes. I just wonder why he's not on a crusade against me yet. meh.
Glowingbear: Slight townlean. Why? Cause he is scared when he's mafia. He isn't scared here. He's acting like some innocent teddy bear everyone's supposed to leave alone. Zero aggression shown towards his attackers. When Palmar got him on the hook D1 in another game he lashed back out towards him, he didn't make puppy eyes and ask "why" like here. For the time being he's staying in the ugly though. Cause he can do better than that.
The bad:
Tubesock: Goes on a rant about me being mafia and how we will have this for days and days. Quotes a game where I have like 7 posts as example. He realizes it's not really how I always play scum after ptmc points it out but doesn't really pursue that thought further. It's obvious he is just happy with having a reason to scumread me even after having it invalidated, ends up voting TickTock with me after having that train of thought. I believe he should have been much more determined to keep his vote on me after what he said.
Koroko: Has three posts. Claims third party, wins by creating fake accounts. Sounds too good to be true. Not necessarily mafia but definitely a something from outside this world that needs cleansing.
As for SL, ptmc, WoS, Skynx, ritoky. I don't wanna put them into these categories
Off the top of my head, mafia WoS tends to longish posts. SL just loses the grip on the game and misunderstands stuff, ritoky acts smug and spams stuff for fun a bit like scumtanis. I cba to check for those tendencies on these guys I'd like to have them around a bit longer anyway.
From a glance ptmc seemed townie at first but he has kinda dropped off and his list seemed a bit superficial.
Skynx on the other hand was brutally honest about how he forgot about something and couldn't be arsed to go over it again in his list thingy and that earns him town points in my book.
Either way, I'd lynch tube and the 3p claim next. What about me 
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On October 21 2016 03:24 sicklucker wrote:
koshi will never role mafia when im town. so hes clear 100%
On October 22 2016 05:48 sicklucker wrote:
the thing going against koshi while I didnt read his posts is that hes roled mafia alot lately so if he got town I would expect him to be into it. so ya hes probably way better then ticktock ill vote him if I have too
On October 22 2016 05:57 sicklucker wrote:
koshi littteraly gives no fucks... I expect a fight
--- EOD1. Makes sense, since TT was a solid TR of SL
On October 22 2016 08:40 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 08:36 NocturneMage wrote:On October 22 2016 08:29 sicklucker wrote:
Koshi was pissing people off and didnt really care about the game. Kind of somewhat standard koshi but he rolled mafia 3 or so games inarow so I would have expected him to try as town in a fun game like this. this is also how he was when I played against him in star wars minus the pissing people off part, but I haven't played against him in awhile, still good to know. i mean ya his play is not out of his town range (EXCEPT HIM NOT EVEN TRYING AT DEADLINE WHEN HE WAS A WAGON) The more I think on it. Hes just rolled mafia again and does not want to try. Its a double edged sword because I would also expect him to try when he has not rolled town in awile
On October 23 2016 13:26 sicklucker wrote:
well if koshi is scum hes doing everything a scum should do at the bottom of the barrel. trying to get votes/kp off him
not wrong
On October 23 2016 13:33 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 13:27 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 23 2016 13:26 sicklucker wrote:
well if koshi is scum hes doing everything a scum should do at the bottom of the barrel. trying to get votes/kp off him sure, but he's also promised a double lynch, I'm willing to give him a cycle to produce it before he enters auto-lynch territory like vivax. Granted, I'm a little more lenient since I think hes town but nonetheless, he either gives us our double lynch or he gets killed himself. a second lynch barely favors town tho. infact its completely null
This is bs imo, but:
On October 23 2016 13:45 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 13:44 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 23 2016 13:41 sicklucker wrote:On October 23 2016 13:35 Hopeless1der wrote:
do you fundamentally misunderstand how this game works SL? /ignore before i give myself an aneurism of course I do. you do know if he has that abilty and we lynch a mafai with it he can just choose not to use it and then we lynch him next...like wtf are you even arguing here? ??? no because we wont know if koshis double lynched didnt work because the target or mafia or if koshi was lying all along because him stalling is also the correct mafia play
On October 23 2016 13:47 sicklucker wrote:
like if koshi claims a double lynch and that double lynch does not go through we do not know the alignment of that said person you retard. Because koshi can do it both to save a team mate if he really has the ability or he could completely make up this ability to get kp and lynches off of him onto other towns.
im allowed to say retard because you called me a retard
On October 24 2016 03:39 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 00:09 Koshi wrote:
I like how there are so many people calling a double lynch not pro-town and how many people need to know the specifics. Well if my double lynch doesn't go through it is 85% on you all.
No I am not backtracking.
But stop asking dumb shit and just make a second BIG wagon. its not that a double lynch wouldnt be pro town. its that we kind of have to trust you
like this it makes sense (to me). We just have some trust issues with you, is all.
On October 23 2016 08:24 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 08:23 Koshi wrote:On October 23 2016 08:22 sicklucker wrote:
no but really im bloodseeker I can check your hp Well if no townie attacked me it must have been mafia. well then if no one claims it I suggest we dont lynch you so I can check your claim. Like the bloodseeker in dota 2 I can only see your hp if its below a certain threshold tho
Maybe Koshi doesn't answer further since his HP are still too high?
On October 23 2016 13:27 sicklucker wrote:
also i brought up my ability to detect his hp but when I did that he dropped. also makes no sense for scum to target him so hes scum
So there are town targetting him without claiming? why?
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I lost over 30hp bro. He can check me.
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On October 24 2016 22:19 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 22:17 ptmc wrote:On October 24 2016 22:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
every lurker is scum until they prove otherwise I agree. I don't feel strongly for a Skynx-Lynch (only read his filter, did I miss a case?) Lunatic however is still only a weird tunneling lurker, which would be a fine second lynch. ## vote lunaticman I agree Lunatic is the worst of the bunch. And this also beyond doubt proofs I am 100% confirmed town. ##unvote
## vote lunaticman
IF people make sure the wagons aren't too close together I am OK with this
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On October 23 2016 04:54 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 04:45 beentheredonethat wrote:On October 23 2016 04:35 ritoky wrote:On October 23 2016 04:29 beentheredonethat wrote:On October 23 2016 04:26 ritoky wrote:
btdt you probably don't want to hear this from a washed up salty dog like me, but if you're town; 2 pieces of advice for future games: 1) posts that list every player are less beneficial than posts that focus hard in on a few and 2) generally speaking don't post glowing town reads during night phase, you only put targets on people/help mafia. nevertheless, what do you think about my scumreads? i think you're wrong on hamamuratacobellchalupa but my reason is awful. i realize he has done literal stone nothing, but the suggesting a jester thing as a new player (i think) to this site just seems like such a dumb town tell to me. the rest of your hard scum reads are very bland and thread sentimenty to me. you said nothing i felt was a keen observation or original that made me think they were more scum or you were more town. plus you insulted me, and i shed a tear. That strikes me as odd. Let me explain: First of all, you brought your argument of a dumbtell on taco bell before already. I know that, so you're not adding anything new. Which is fine as I didn't raise anything new either but I wished that my scumread would make you re-read and reconsider. You chose to hard defend taco bell so you should be interested in doing a bit more than just dropping the same thing again, right? Then, you say I'd follow thread sentiment. Except I was the one who started the Koshi wagon and pushed for it over the course of day 1. Going with Vivax isn't thread sentimenty as it's objectivally a good thing to lynch him. Same applies to Lunatic. Keep in mind that the goal of listing my scumreads is not to make myself town but instead raise awareness and get others to pursue those guys, too. You're not doing that, you're reading my list only in the context of beentheredonethat's alignment. Why do you focus so hard on me? It's not directly scummy to do that, yeah, but I think there are plenty of people to talk about. If you choose to try to read me, then ask questions, read my filter or whatever, but don't sacrifice my reads. I actually want to talk about my reads. Please do so  . 1) because while other people think it is stupid and have told me so on multiple occasions and lynched me over it; i am a firm believer in the game philosophy that 1 moment in someone's filter can make them irrevocably town or mafia. i think this is especially the case with new players. many people lose sight of a moment of clarity over the course of 10 days as it gets muddled in shitwater; i try to hold on to those moments. 2) it's 100 pages, i don't remember who started trains that 15 people agree on, maybe it was you. but what you said about those trains i had read before from multiple people. so basically what i am saying is it didn't advance my opinion to a new understanding about the players you were scum reading, and didn't spark interest/awareness; it simply re-hashed whats already been said. it also lacked an a-ha or keen observation which would make me think "wow btdt is really looking at this game critically, damn sooooo town." so basically it didn't adjust my read on your scum reads or you. i do like that you care about your reads though, that's more than many.
Do you have any examples of other games, where you caught scum on one detail with none believing you?
And do you have other such moments in this game except for Hamazus dumb-tell?
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On October 24 2016 23:26 Koshi wrote:
I lost over 30hp bro. He can check me.
What do you scum lean ritoky for? He feels a bit limp, but has some thoughts that he sticks to.
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On October 24 2016 23:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 22:50 Koshi wrote:On October 24 2016 22:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Bleh Acro's filter has a shitton of original thought so prob not. Maybe Wave? Hmm. I think Acro/iamp/DI/WoS are fine atm. ritoky/sicklucker are more likely active mafia. Could be that my ritoky townread is off-point. He's a sly bugger but I think it's still likely accurate. SL I mostly townread for having similar thoughts but that's pretty meh. Wish Rso was in the game so I could tell if he's scum or not from whether he reads her posts. Problem is neither of those fit the feeling I'm getting. I guess it could be something like SL/Tubesock and other mid-range posters creating that feeling? Still going through Wave's filter but not really noticing anything that makes me scream scum. He comes off as very nonchalant but it doesn't come off scripted. Blehhhhhhh
Scripted?
Bitch plz.
My scumgame is off-the-cuff and nothing but pure gold.
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On October 24 2016 23:36 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 22:19 Koshi wrote:On October 24 2016 22:17 ptmc wrote:On October 24 2016 22:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
every lurker is scum until they prove otherwise I agree. I don't feel strongly for a Skynx-Lynch (only read his filter, did I miss a case?) Lunatic however is still only a weird tunneling lurker, which would be a fine second lynch. ## vote lunaticman I agree Lunatic is the worst of the bunch. And this also beyond doubt proofs I am 100% confirmed town. ##unvote
## vote lunaticman IF people make sure the wagons aren't too close together I am OK with this
If we want to be sure, let's put 7 votes on Lunatic.
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On October 24 2016 23:36 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 22:19 Koshi wrote:On October 24 2016 22:17 ptmc wrote:On October 24 2016 22:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
every lurker is scum until they prove otherwise I agree. I don't feel strongly for a Skynx-Lynch (only read his filter, did I miss a case?) Lunatic however is still only a weird tunneling lurker, which would be a fine second lynch. ## vote lunaticman I agree Lunatic is the worst of the bunch. And this also beyond doubt proofs I am 100% confirmed town. ##unvote
## vote lunaticman IF people make sure the wagons aren't too close together I am OK with this
Also, no mafia is going to show face for Lunatic.
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I don't have time for this so I'm fine with a lynch but I'm surprised you would lynch me over Koshi.
The mafia town circle is strong in this one.
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On October 24 2016 23:41 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 23:36 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 24 2016 22:19 Koshi wrote:On October 24 2016 22:17 ptmc wrote:On October 24 2016 22:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
every lurker is scum until they prove otherwise I agree. I don't feel strongly for a Skynx-Lynch (only read his filter, did I miss a case?) Lunatic however is still only a weird tunneling lurker, which would be a fine second lynch. ## vote lunaticman I agree Lunatic is the worst of the bunch. And this also beyond doubt proofs I am 100% confirmed town. ##unvote
## vote lunaticman IF people make sure the wagons aren't too close together I am OK with this Also, no mafia is going to show face for Lunatic.
Fair, but stupider things have happened.
Koshi you know you could have made this way less complicated somehow. I won't know how that was until I see what your role is, but srsly.
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