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Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 22 2016 15:45 GMT

#2041

I could double lynch tomorrow but instead I will use 20 damage on hf. Gl hf.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 22 2016 15:46 GMT

#2042

Afk.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30774 Posts

October 22 2016 15:48 GMT

#2043

You are pathetic and it saddens me.

iamperfection

United States9642 Posts

October 22 2016 16:15 GMT

#2044

On October 23 2016 00:48 Holyflare wrote:
You are pathetic and it saddens me.

doesn't seem to be a wining scum strategy to try and piss the entire thread off espically with a heavily themed setup

Why don't you want to kill vivax.

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

October 22 2016 16:16 GMT

#2045

On October 23 2016 00:24 Tubesock wrote:

Show nested quote +

On October 23 2016 00:18 Holyflare wrote:

On October 23 2016 00:06 Tubesock wrote:
I don't buy the LT and SL are town because of targeting WoS one bit.

I absolutely do and think wave's reaction to it here:

On October 22 2016 22:53 WaveofShadow wrote:

On October 22 2016 17:32 Holyflare wrote:

On October 22 2016 17:21 Holyflare wrote:

On October 22 2016 09:41 Hopeless1der wrote:

On October 22 2016 09:34 NocturneMage wrote:
Lunatic is also rreaaaaaaalllllyyyyyy meh.

On one hand he's calling holyflare mafia with no explanation other than opportunism but then we have luna/hf both pushing each other. same time though, lunaticman points out this discrepancy though....

On October 21 2016 05:05 Lunaticman wrote:

On October 21 2016 04:57 ritoky wrote:

On October 21 2016 04:50 Lunaticman wrote:
[quote]

haha yes you can say it like that if you want but it is more the way it was done. No reasoning just undermining my credibility with no reason and ignoring it as soon as possible, changing the subject from Koshi etc.

Do you have any opinions on HF's read on me?

I think it is very shallow as expected day one. It felt like he just wanted to assign blame to someone. Throwing the first rock if you will.

I like your idea of building a town circle, that is always the most important thing the first two days.

I'm also sad to see you say you will never play again maybe your just not in the mood.

Also I'm off to bed nn.

On October 21 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote:

On October 21 2016 22:39 Koshi wrote:
Hopeless1der and Lunatic are my preferred lynches for today. Going to vote with Acrofoles because I like his case.

##unvote
##vote Hopeless1der

p60 atm

HAHA :D this made me laugh thank you.

You don't want to engage me directly but now I won't let you slip between the cracks so you just try to shade me while voting someone else entirely. And you don't even post any reasons.

It is intresting people are town reading BT and scum reading me although we both have the exact same read on Koshi. This smells like mafia trying to save mafia.

and that double standard gives me pause, atm stuck on whether he's trying to skate by or whether he's someone who speaks in simpler sentences (if that makes any sense, basically someone who makes instinct reads...) but will need to revisit him after flips or more content.

I currently have some huge associative WIFOM between koshi, HF and Lunaticman. My read of koshi is town, and it really makes me hate HF and Lunatic. The fact that HF and Luna are weakly pushing each other gives me weak bus vibes, but again this is very associative. I will note that they've said the other is scummy but never voted to match.

So if I have a choice between a town koshi or a town ticktock I go after the scrub one??? I could have easily lynched koshi but I'm waiting to see if he does something, anything in fact while i had an actual case on TT. He also claimed a town ability too. Koshi regularly gets nk on night 1 and 2 as town because he's a big threat and plays well but for some reason I'd just let him stay alive?

Wave is definitely mafia btw.

I lost 0 hp.

Ok wave might not definitely be mafia but lt/sl are practically confirmed town in my eyes now. I don't believe mafia start laying their kp on wave when they can attack better targets.

Oh actually this is a good point.
Ugh.
Stop making good points.

Is pretty bad because in my/lt/sl's world this only makes sense because we believe wave is mafia

In wave's world (if he's town) then it's his scum read lt getting rid of town wave and sl stacking with me too

But he said it's a good point which is kinda scummy response because it's only a good point if wave is mafia

I don't totally agree with that. I think that it really depends on if WoS thinks he's a town leader and that there are better targets that mafia would go after and "order" LT or SL or you to hit.

I wouldn't necessarily think that anyone attacking me would be mafia and I know I'm town.

This dude has to be town for this

Calling me a town leader rather than shift suspicion on to me when it's clear I could still go either way
The only possible scum motivation is pocketing me if he truly believes I'm a 'town leader' but I don't buy that as an effective tactic

Hopeless1der

United States5836 Posts

October 22 2016 16:19 GMT

#2046

On October 23 2016 00:45 Koshi wrote:
I could double lynch tomorrow but instead I will use 20 damage on hf. Gl hf.

If you can legitimately double lynch and chose not to....

You know thats wrong.

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

October 22 2016 16:21 GMT

#2047

There definitely something fishy going on with the targets on me but of the three the only one I do think for sure is town is LT.

This fits with how hes played in past games with me. Just wish he'd be more useful

SL or HF could be faking damage or one of them could have been RBed (HF most likely).

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

October 22 2016 16:22 GMT

#2048

On October 23 2016 01:19 Hopeless1der wrote:

Show nested quote +

If you can legitimately double lynch and chose not to....

You know thats wrong.

Can you update your actions/damage list with all the recent stuff? I want to see it.

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

October 22 2016 16:31 GMT

#2049

On October 23 2016 01:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
There definitely something fishy going on with the targets on me but of the three the only one I do think for sure is town is LT.

This fits with how hes played in past games with me. Just wish he'd be more useful

SL or HF could be faking damage or one of them could have been RBed (HF most likely).

Can you explain this please? (Just the LT part)

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

October 22 2016 16:58 GMT

#2050

On October 22 2016 23:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
See the problem I see is, if you were actually RBed it makes you town but nothing is stopping any one of you from lying about actually targeting me and there's no way anyone even claims rb so it doesn't really amount to anything in the end anyway.

An interesting question: are you allowed to do nothing during a phase? Because people took penalties for not submitting stuff, but are you allowed to choose not to? I guess not?

Being rolebloxked doesn't confirm him. You even say that there might be town roleblocker in yet you say it would confirm. Getting scum vibes here,the post is not only highly hypothetically but its also wrong and totally empty.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

October 22 2016 17:07 GMT

#2051

Also, Koshi should definitely be the lynch, even over Vivax. He was the "counter" wagon. HF, to clarify a bit more (if you still scumread me), town was pretty much afk EoD1, so there was no point in pursueing Koshi. My shennanies weren't executed due to this, too, so it was the best thing to consolidate on Tictock in case he was scum.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

October 22 2016 17:10 GMT

#2052

Koshi, Lunatic etc. - or, use night abilities that deal damage to kill Koshi. Even better IMHO.

Skynx

Turkey7150 Posts

October 22 2016 17:13 GMT

#2053

Tictock lynch is beyond horrible, I hold HF and iamp you guys are terribad

I took 5 dmg to myself cuz I forgot action cuz I'm bad aswell.

Skynx

Turkey7150 Posts

October 22 2016 17:14 GMT

#2054

Koshi I voted you cuz I warned you before that you need to start doing shit. You said you're not going to, so you're scum. Please don't manipulate shit and say you're genuine and all...

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

October 22 2016 17:14 GMT

#2055

On October 23 2016 02:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
Also, Koshi should definitely be the lynch, even over Vivax. He was the "counter" wagon. HF, to clarify a bit more (if you still scumread me), town was pretty much afk EoD1, so there was no point in pursueing Koshi. My shennanies weren't executed due to this, too, so it was the best thing to consolidate on Tictock in case he was scum.

I'm confused. So, you thought town was afk, so instead of going for Koshi, who've you were after, you decide to go after hazmatubo which no one was on. And would have required A LOT more people to be around to execute?

I think you were trying to deflect and make some chaos.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

October 22 2016 17:16 GMT

#2056

On October 23 2016 02:14 Tubesock wrote:

Show nested quote +

Except you have the order wrong. I pushed for shennanies, saw it didn't work out, then I chose to consolidate instead of voting for Koshi.

Also, why should I stir up chaos as scum given that the Tictock wagon was not going to be derailed?

Skynx

Turkey7150 Posts

October 22 2016 17:16 GMT

#2057

@Tubesock, iamp, HF. I'm also sick of your antics calling me useless with shit list but then feel not sure about my alginment. Man the fuck up vote me and see if you can convince other 20 people playing the game that I'm scum based on whatever reasons you have, if you have any if that is.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

October 22 2016 17:17 GMT

#2058

Also you're forgetting that my shennanies as well as my vote were completely irrelevant for the outcome of the day.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

October 22 2016 17:18 GMT

#2059

On October 23 2016 02:16 Skynx wrote:
@Tubesock, iamp, HF. I'm also sick of your antics calling me useless with shit list but then feel not sure about my alginment. Man the fuck up vote me and see if you can convince other 20 people playing the game that I'm scum based on whatever reasons you have, if you have any if that is.

Feels like a genuine town reaction.

Acrofales

Spain17997 Posts

October 22 2016 17:18 GMT

#2060

Ok, been going over the damage and the claims. Biggest discrepancies so far:

Sicklucker claims he can RB AND do a basic attack. I was told I have one action per phase, and basic attacks are actions, so I call bullshit.

WoS didn't take enough damage. Claims 16 dmg. HF claims he hit for 5, LT claims 10, sicklucker claims unknown amount.

ExO_ claims he hit Koshi, but he cannot have moved to Koshi. In fact, he cannot have moved anywhere except to me.

Acro took too much damage. I took 7 dmg. Nobody claims an attack.

Koshi didn't take enough damage. Claims 12 dmg. btdt claims he did 8. ExO_ claims unknown amount (4?).

GB didn't take enough damage. Claims 6 dmg. Iamperfection claims > 6. Koshi claims 7. ritoky claims he tried, but was roleblocked.

ptmc claims he hit BM. He cannot have moved to BM, and can only have hit Hamazooka (host error is possible, because if ptmc moved to where BM was BEFORE his move, then it all works)

Questions:
@ExO_: how much do you hit for? Someone could have redirected you to me. Not sure why, but we'll figure that out later.
@ptmc: can you ask the hosts if they processed your move correctly?

Will work on reads post and it will be up before just before resolution. I am around for chats.

If you are looking for a target to shoot at tonight, I highly recommend, in order of importance:

Vivax. Kill with fire
Koshi. Disruptive scummy dirtbag.
Skynx. 100% trash filter, and seriously flying under the radar.
H1der. Scum until I say otherwise.
LT. Lurker.
GB. Lurker.
HF. Haven't figured out the TT train yet, and while the case seems sincere (if just plain wrong), there is something off about him.
Artanis. Lurker.

That should do it for now.

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