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fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 06 2016 07:34 GMT
#19
/in
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 07 2016 01:07 GMT
#50
Just started work today, and starting school back up tomorrow. Definitely best time to return to mafia ^^
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 07 2016 08:08 GMT
#58
I don't remember receiving this test
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 08 2016 18:30 GMT
#93
I am in class until about 5-6 hours after we start, I believe. Just a heads up ^^
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 08 2016 22:45 GMT
#156
Hi, got a quick break.

I'm feeling a lot of indignation from calix, which I usually consider to be more of a town tell.
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 09 2016 00:22 GMT
#190
On September 09 2016 08:17 Vivax wrote:
The calix issue for me is that she was so intent on proceeding to splitting atoms with me when I pointed it out.

I'd have felt better about the post if I just had gotten back as answer "alright it's fluffy but I wanted to talk about setup so it's obvious that it's going to be fluffy" instead of her defending the points she made so rabidly (for example in fear of looking bad if not able to defend them).

It's early enough for me to still chill and force silent people to post without having to jump into tunnels, so I'll just judge calix based on other stuff as well, but this will definitely be an argument should I decide for myself that she's mafia.

Actually a good point, may have to reexamine your argument when I get out of class.

And I've used my 2 15 minute break to at least say something about the game (regardless of how minimal it is). Not sure I fit with anyone who's trolled or called everyone boring and skipped off.

@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 09 2016 02:33 GMT
#229
On September 09 2016 09:26 Tumblewood wrote:
fuba also seems pretty cool

While I appreciate it, it always makes me uncomfortable when people town read me, especially D1 XD
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 09 2016 02:34 GMT
#230
On September 09 2016 09:29 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2016 07:25 Shapelog wrote:
Vivax point is good (or at least points out the inconsistent in agenda)
On September 09 2016 07:21 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 09 2016 07:14 Shapelog wrote:
So....Your scum reading her, based off of (meta) pro-noun usage.


Incorrect. It's based off her fluff, her LW setup spec that didn't advantage town, and her misreading the setup.

The town roles are so straightforward, no town would think that there are PRs D1.

But you said the bold was NAI?
Also, she infered that town had PRs before they were lynched which shows she didn't correctly read the setup. It's NAI, To add to your point about her fluff: she used words like "we" -- Scum tend to use those words more than town to fit in the group. Scum!Calix uses "we" a lot.


I can kinda understand the rest.

I was expecting to find some good stuff here, but Vivax's points are actually really meh.

We're talking about the set up here. There's no reason whatsoever why scum would have worse thoughts on the setup than town.

Also fair warning: If I get lynched day 1 I'm totally shooting.

Second paragraph also a great point. Occurred to me as well, but I forgot :/
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 09 2016 02:46 GMT
#237
On September 09 2016 11:40 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2016 11:33 fuba wrote:
On September 09 2016 09:26 Tumblewood wrote:
fuba also seems pretty cool

While I appreciate it, it always makes me uncomfortable when people town read me, especially D1 XD


A) "seems pretty cool" =/= Town-read. Can hardly even call it a read.

B) I agree that you've done nothing worthy of being town-read so far. 4 "I'm alive" posts shouldn't warrant a t-r.

C) Why did you specify "especially D1"?

A) what else would it mean in the context of a mafia game?

B) Cool story bro.

C) I have no idea what to do D1. It tends to get me in hot water early. Really, I'm not all that great until a few days have passed. Great at hyper-analyzing everything everyone's said at a later date, though.
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 09 2016 03:03 GMT
#242
I can't point at anything explicitly wrong with your case, aside from the fact that the weakest reasons (at least in my eyes) could apply to me as well. The rest is enough to make it easily best case so far.

*sheeps*
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 09 2016 03:10 GMT
#245
Meh, I can live with that for now.

Only the "I like this post" part. Not a big deal.
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 09 2016 03:10 GMT
#246
And it wasn't so much straight up weak as much as I don't find it compelling because I do that too.
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 09 2016 12:32 GMT
#371
On September 09 2016 20:41 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2016 20:37 Calix wrote:
On September 09 2016 20:31 Superbia wrote:
On September 09 2016 20:26 Calix wrote:
Yo. Doesn't look like much happened. What I got was:

- Superbia is really townie given his setup-spec talk and stream-of-consciousness style posting and I don't see scum ever entering the thread like that. Also I agree with the reads he's posted. Palmar's flippancy is also kinda town although that might just be his personality. He wasn't amazingly involved in the setup talk but the way the conversation progressed made me feel good about him.

- Don't like Grackaroni. It feels like he's just hanging on the sidelines; he wasn't very involved in the discussion and most of the posts I read while catching up seemed like he was posting for the sake of looking active. Like there were a lot of places where he could have posted something substantial and he just made some joke comment instead.

- I don't like Tumblewood still.

On September 09 2016 14:03 Tumblewood wrote:
On September 09 2016 11:00 Holyflare wrote:
You shouldn't expect a follow up from Tumblewood that guy is 100% free madia lynch bait.


i'm just not gonna waste 4 hours explaining myself to some scrub who thinks he's caught me in a lie
On September 09 2016 10:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 09 2016 10:21 Tumblewood wrote:
pls stop making me explain myself


It's kind of the point of the game.

If you have reads but can't express them, no one's going to follow them, and you're as useless as town-Palmar.

Explain them.

see?
it's not even my reads that are unexplained. it's my non-reads. like I have to waste my time explaining why you're all scrubs and I'm not scum for saying something but not drawing a conclusion from it
The worst post of this game and I've only read like 8 posts.

but that makes it seem less bad if it's only one of 8 posts you've seen
On September 09 2016 11:33 fuba wrote:
On September 09 2016 09:26 Tumblewood wrote:
fuba also seems pretty cool

While I appreciate it, it always makes me uncomfortable when people town read me, especially D1 XD

sorry nvm you're scum + Show Spoiler [in case you couldn't tell] +
that was a j o k e and I still think he is town

can I just complain about new players for a sec? cause I'm reading some posts by NU and he keeps attacking people for being lazy. I get the intentions and that may or not be valid on your home site but here on TL lazy is the meta. it's like a competition for who can look the laziest each game.

I want to sheep you hf but after last game I'm paranoid


I'll take "avoiding the main points being raised against me" for £200, Alex.

Add a dose of unnecessary off-topic whining about Teh N00bs. Oh noes.

That last line is really scummy. It's the classic "oh I'll give lip service to lynching X scummy person but then I'll give some bullshit excuse to not follow up on it" scum tactic when the scum feel compelled to talk about their scummy partners but don't actually want to bus them - there is literally NO reason to not vote for Ticktock at this point in time. Paranoia isn't a logical excuse - wouldn't you want to clarify your suspicions by pressuring Ticktock? Why is no-voting better exactly?

- The only point of Holyflare's that I find compelling is Ticktock's contradiction ("I find setup spec boring, here's some setup spec") since it makes his point look like filler. Everything else is just background noise compared to that point imo.

tl;dr: Grackaroni/ Tumblewood/ Ticktock are my scum-reads and the fact that they are low-key defending each other just makes me feel more confident that lynching among these three is the best option.


So:
- I'm town
- My one townread is town.
- All my mafia reads are mafia.

Good reads.

In all seriousness, nice pocket regardless of your alignment. Townpass-ish!

What do you think of NeverUnlucky? You've played with him before, right?


I have.

He's a scrub but he's town. He's more proactive and abrasive compared to his scum play. He gets mislynched a lot given he's presumptuous, arrogant, prone to trolling, has poor persuasion abilities, etc, so I am not surprised that he's under some suspicion.

I am also 99% sure that he's read like, one or two past games on this site and that's why he's acting like he knows what everyone's meta is. Recently, he read one of my scum games from five months ago and now thinks he's an expert. That's how he rolls.


Is he prone to be abrasive and yet form no actual opinion on someone? He calls TW 'lynchbait', which suggests he is TRing him, but nothing suggests he is reaching any actual conclusion. Seems weird to put seemingly that much energy/emotion into something but reach no real conclusion.

This was the one thing that really stood out to me from last night. He seems to be, at best, town reading TW and at worst, accidentally admitting he knows TW is town. I'm willing to trust calix's meta knowledge atm though. Would revisit him if something crazy happens or TW does end up flipping town.

In any case, ticktock not returning after dinner last night makes me feel even better about my vote.
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 09 2016 12:34 GMT
#374
On September 09 2016 21:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
about my vote


Wow.

You mean my vote, you belong to me now.

My apologies.
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 09 2016 17:53 GMT
#571
I'd thought that "lynchbait" is when a player is prone to attracting votes as town, which would indicate a TW town read from NU, given that he doesn't have any knowledge of TW's meta. And I was well aware that this is contrary to his general thoughts on TW at that point in the game. That's why I wouldn't really revisit it unless TW flips town (if/when that happens). I.E. if TW flips town, this could have been a slip.

Actually, mentioning that he's lynchbait is counterproductive to getting TW lynched, so why even mention it? Gonna need to think about this more after work - need my computer in front of me XD
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 09 2016 21:12 GMT
#610
On September 10 2016 03:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 02:53 fuba wrote:
I'd thought that "lynchbait" is when a player is prone to attracting votes as town, which would indicate a TW town read from NU, given that he doesn't have any knowledge of TW's meta. And I was well aware that this is contrary to his general thoughts on TW at that point in the game. That's why I wouldn't really revisit it unless TW flips town (if/when that happens). I.E. if TW flips town, this could have been a slip.

Actually, mentioning that he's lynchbait is counterproductive to getting TW lynched, so why even mention it? Gonna need to think about this more after work - need my computer in front of me XD


Odd that you change your stance on this point after Vivax and I called you out for it.

Calling him bad =/= town-reading him.

What does my knowledge of TW's meta have to do with any of this?

"That's why I wouldn't really revisit it unless TW flips town (if/when that happens). I.E. if TW flips town, this could have been a slip."
So you know he is going to flip town with the addition of the 'when'. I do not see why else you found the need to add this word after 'if' which is a conditional, meaning you know he's town. Scumslip.
You're also trying to tie up TW's flip to me which is scummy as fuck. IE - X flipped town and was pushed by Y, therefore Y is scum. You are already setting up a mislynch on me knowing that TW will flip town.

What makes you say that I wanted him lynched? Scum-read =/= desire to lynch

Fuba is scum.

This is the single most nonsensical response to any post I have ever written. Excited to get home and absolutely tear it to tiny bits of terrible case.
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 09 2016 21:26 GMT
#616
On September 10 2016 06:08 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 04:40 NeverUnlucky wrote:

Why do you now think Vivax may be town? It looks self-serving that you state that you now town-read Vivax and scum-read Fuba in the same post. Especially since you are following my vote and these two reads are ones I share.


I don't see anything wrong about this? Isn't she allowed to have a few reads that are the same as yours? Or to change her mind?

Doesn't really seem like a reason to be suspicious of anything to me. I'm glad somebody else sees that fuba is playing very timidly to say the least. On top of it he attacked you with superbia for calling TW lynch bait, but not HF. Seems especially strange cause you were more vocal about the opinion on TW.

HF has the right to call TW lynchbait based off of meta. NU has to call him lynchbait based on his knowledge from this game. Which means he thinks or knows that TW is town. If that is not the case, then he should just think he is scum. Calling him lynchbait is at the least inconsistent with his scumread of TW. At worst it is a slip. And his intentional misinterpretation of the post he quoted is making me think slip.

How is this not obvious?
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 09 2016 21:44 GMT
#626
On September 10 2016 06:33 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 06:26 fuba wrote:
On September 10 2016 06:08 Vivax wrote:
On September 10 2016 04:40 NeverUnlucky wrote:

Why do you now think Vivax may be town? It looks self-serving that you state that you now town-read Vivax and scum-read Fuba in the same post. Especially since you are following my vote and these two reads are ones I share.


I don't see anything wrong about this? Isn't she allowed to have a few reads that are the same as yours? Or to change her mind?

Doesn't really seem like a reason to be suspicious of anything to me. I'm glad somebody else sees that fuba is playing very timidly to say the least. On top of it he attacked you with superbia for calling TW lynch bait, but not HF. Seems especially strange cause you were more vocal about the opinion on TW.

HF has the right to call TW lynchbait based off of meta. NU has to call him lynchbait based on his knowledge from this game. Which means he thinks or knows that TW is town. If that is not the case, then he should just think he is scum. Calling him lynchbait is at the least inconsistent with his scumread of TW. At worst it is a slip. And his intentional misinterpretation of the post he quoted is making me think slip.

How is this not obvious?


FYI Tumble is not lynch bait. When he started playing around here he was perfectly capable of concise , informative posts with lists and reasoning and stuff, and he was jailkeeper a while back and got NKd N1. Not lynched.

Not sure why he's started to go into wobbly land with his posting, but when he posts differently than in those games it's never a bad call to lynch him.

And what does this have to do with you bitching about NU for using that term but not finding it suspicious in the slightest in HF? Is there any particular wording I missed that NU used that makes it more worth noticing?

I could at least see HF having a different view of TW than you. I read the first few pages of the last game and thought TW was scum. HF was there, and said he had felt the same. In any case, it doesn't matter, because he at least has a right to an opinion of whether TW is lynchbait or not. He's seen him play as town before.

NU has not. He has no reference point from which to call TW lynchbait. Except for this game. You are lynchbait if, as town, you behave in a scummy manner. UN only has this game from which to draw a conclusion.

As I say this, I realize that I'm assuming it's his first game here rather than one of his first games here. However, assuming he's never played with TW before, my point stands strong.
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 09 2016 21:49 GMT
#631
And if the issue is that we have different definitions of lynchbait, I may have e to reevaluate everything I said, and so should he.
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 09 2016 21:49 GMT
#632
Gonna address your earlier post once I get home and walk the dog. Need quotes and such.
@theRealMkfuba07
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