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On September 09 2016 23:21 NeverUnlucky wrote:This Calix guy is a 'she'. c: Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 20:41 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2016 20:37 Calix wrote:On September 09 2016 20:31 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2016 20:26 Calix wrote:Yo. Doesn't look like much happened. What I got was: - Superbia is really townie given his setup-spec talk and stream-of-consciousness style posting and I don't see scum ever entering the thread like that. Also I agree with the reads he's posted. Palmar's flippancy is also kinda town although that might just be his personality. He wasn't amazingly involved in the setup talk but the way the conversation progressed made me feel good about him. - Don't like Grackaroni. It feels like he's just hanging on the sidelines; he wasn't very involved in the discussion and most of the posts I read while catching up seemed like he was posting for the sake of looking active. Like there were a lot of places where he could have posted something substantial and he just made some joke comment instead. - I don't like Tumblewood still. On September 09 2016 14:03 Tumblewood wrote:On September 09 2016 11:00 Holyflare wrote:
You shouldn't expect a follow up from Tumblewood that guy is 100% free madia lynch bait.
i'm just not gonna waste 4 hours explaining myself to some scrub who thinks he's caught me in a lie On September 09 2016 10:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 09 2016 10:21 Tumblewood wrote:
pls stop making me explain myself It's kind of the point of the game. If you have reads but can't express them, no one's going to follow them, and you're as useless as town-Palmar. Explain them. see? it's not even my reads that are unexplained. it's my non-reads. like I have to waste my time explaining why you're all scrubs and I'm not scum for saying something but not drawing a conclusion from it The worst post of this game and I've only read like 8 posts. but that makes it seem less bad if it's only one of 8 posts you've seen On September 09 2016 11:33 fuba wrote:On September 09 2016 09:26 Tumblewood wrote:
fuba also seems pretty cool While I appreciate it, it always makes me uncomfortable when people town read me, especially D1 XD sorry nvm you're scum + Show Spoiler [in case you couldn't tell] +that was a j o k e and I still think he is town can I just complain about new players for a sec? cause I'm reading some posts by NU and he keeps attacking people for being lazy. I get the intentions and that may or not be valid on your home site but here on TL lazy is the meta. it's like a competition for who can look the laziest each game. I want to sheep you hf but after last game I'm paranoid I'll take "avoiding the main points being raised against me" for £200, Alex. Add a dose of unnecessary off-topic whining about Teh N00bs. Oh noes. That last line is really scummy. It's the classic "oh I'll give lip service to lynching X scummy person but then I'll give some bullshit excuse to not follow up on it" scum tactic when the scum feel compelled to talk about their scummy partners but don't actually want to bus them - there is literally NO reason to not vote for Ticktock at this point in time. Paranoia isn't a logical excuse - wouldn't you want to clarify your suspicions by pressuring Ticktock? Why is no-voting better exactly? - The only point of Holyflare's that I find compelling is Ticktock's contradiction ("I find setup spec boring, here's some setup spec") since it makes his point look like filler. Everything else is just background noise compared to that point imo. tl;dr: Grackaroni/ Tumblewood/ Ticktock are my scum-reads and the fact that they are low-key defending each other just makes me feel more confident that lynching among these three is the best option. So: - I'm town - My one townread is town. - All my mafia reads are mafia. Good reads.  In all seriousness, nice pocket regardless of your alignment. Townpass-ish! What do you think of NeverUnlucky? You've played with him before, right? I have. He's a scrub but he's town. He's more proactive and abrasive compared to his scum play. He gets mislynched a lot given he's presumptuous, arrogant, prone to trolling, has poor persuasion abilities, etc, so I am not surprised that he's under some suspicion. I am also 99% sure that he's read like, one or two past games on this site and that's why he's acting like he knows what everyone's meta is. Recently, he read one of my scum games from five months ago and now thinks he's an expert. That's how he rolls. Is he prone to be abrasive and yet form no actual opinion on someone? He calls TW 'lynchbait', which suggests he is TRing him, but nothing suggests he is reaching any actual conclusion. Seems weird to put seemingly that much energy/emotion into something but reach no real conclusion. I lean-scum-read TW for that matter. What makes you think that this one line I made saying that TW was lynchbait took energy/emotion?
You made a big bad scary post ranting on TW.
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On September 09 2016 23:20 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 17:32 Superbia wrote:
Oh fuck me. Lynched towns get to be vigi? Fuck this game lmao. Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 17:46 Superbia wrote:
I think lynching town d1 is super good to create a benevolent spirit. He also forgot what he said 15 minutes earlier. Bleh. Not a fan of this what I think could be strategic spam. I employed something similar in my scum game, just with more condensed posts. Coincidentally starts the game having the same reads as HF, but doesn't talk about HF. Calls Grack mafia on the go, then asks Calix a question about Never even though he's the guy she talked about the most and he's not within his range of suspects (TW, TT, Grack). Seems like a random question, or wants Calix to talk about the one she obviously has a strong opinion on already. Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 20:41 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2016 20:37 Calix wrote:On September 09 2016 20:31 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2016 20:26 Calix wrote:Yo. Doesn't look like much happened. What I got was: - Superbia is really townie given his setup-spec talk and stream-of-consciousness style posting and I don't see scum ever entering the thread like that. Also I agree with the reads he's posted. Palmar's flippancy is also kinda town although that might just be his personality. He wasn't amazingly involved in the setup talk but the way the conversation progressed made me feel good about him. - Don't like Grackaroni. It feels like he's just hanging on the sidelines; he wasn't very involved in the discussion and most of the posts I read while catching up seemed like he was posting for the sake of looking active. Like there were a lot of places where he could have posted something substantial and he just made some joke comment instead. - I don't like Tumblewood still. On September 09 2016 14:03 Tumblewood wrote:On September 09 2016 11:00 Holyflare wrote:
You shouldn't expect a follow up from Tumblewood that guy is 100% free madia lynch bait.
i'm just not gonna waste 4 hours explaining myself to some scrub who thinks he's caught me in a lie On September 09 2016 10:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 09 2016 10:21 Tumblewood wrote:
pls stop making me explain myself It's kind of the point of the game. If you have reads but can't express them, no one's going to follow them, and you're as useless as town-Palmar. Explain them. see? it's not even my reads that are unexplained. it's my non-reads. like I have to waste my time explaining why you're all scrubs and I'm not scum for saying something but not drawing a conclusion from it The worst post of this game and I've only read like 8 posts. but that makes it seem less bad if it's only one of 8 posts you've seen On September 09 2016 11:33 fuba wrote:On September 09 2016 09:26 Tumblewood wrote:
fuba also seems pretty cool While I appreciate it, it always makes me uncomfortable when people town read me, especially D1 XD sorry nvm you're scum + Show Spoiler [in case you couldn't tell] +that was a j o k e and I still think he is town can I just complain about new players for a sec? cause I'm reading some posts by NU and he keeps attacking people for being lazy. I get the intentions and that may or not be valid on your home site but here on TL lazy is the meta. it's like a competition for who can look the laziest each game. I want to sheep you hf but after last game I'm paranoid I'll take "avoiding the main points being raised against me" for £200, Alex. Add a dose of unnecessary off-topic whining about Teh N00bs. Oh noes. That last line is really scummy. It's the classic "oh I'll give lip service to lynching X scummy person but then I'll give some bullshit excuse to not follow up on it" scum tactic when the scum feel compelled to talk about their scummy partners but don't actually want to bus them - there is literally NO reason to not vote for Ticktock at this point in time. Paranoia isn't a logical excuse - wouldn't you want to clarify your suspicions by pressuring Ticktock? Why is no-voting better exactly? - The only point of Holyflare's that I find compelling is Ticktock's contradiction ("I find setup spec boring, here's some setup spec") since it makes his point look like filler. Everything else is just background noise compared to that point imo. tl;dr: Grackaroni/ Tumblewood/ Ticktock are my scum-reads and the fact that they are low-key defending each other just makes me feel more confident that lynching among these three is the best option. So: - I'm town - My one townread is town. - All my mafia reads are mafia. Good reads. In all seriousness, nice pocket regardless of your alignment. Townpass-ish! What do you think of NeverUnlucky? You've played with him before, right? I have. He's a scrub but he's town. He's more proactive and abrasive compared to his scum play. He gets mislynched a lot given he's presumptuous, arrogant, prone to trolling, has poor persuasion abilities, etc, so I am not surprised that he's under some suspicion. I am also 99% sure that he's read like, one or two past games on this site and that's why he's acting like he knows what everyone's meta is. Recently, he read one of my scum games from five months ago and now thinks he's an expert. That's how he rolls. Is he prone to be abrasive and yet form no actual opinion on someone? He calls TW 'lynchbait', which suggests he is TRing him, but nothing suggests he is reaching any actual conclusion. Seems weird to put seemingly that much energy/emotion into something but reach no real conclusion. This is one of the most misused arguments on the forum. Calling somebody lynch bait doesn't equal calling him town. It just means he's lynch bait. It's like he's trying to get Calix to scumread Never, but he isn't scumreading him either. Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 21:27 Superbia wrote:Rofl this game has the potential to be amazing. Both HF and Palmar seem to be town. We'll see. They seem pretty null to me. HF opens like that as any alignment. Palmar only did some setup speculation. Super could just be handing out a few easy townreads to potentially dangerous players here. Super can get lynched if he so badly wants to, I'm down.
Verrryyy nitpicky. Incorrect on several points.
You OMGUSing?
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Actually everything you said is incorrect.
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On September 09 2016 23:26 Vivax wrote:
This might just be the game where I'm calling HF mafia. I'm feeling it, but it's not going to happen this early.
Had to laugh when he said "rip tl mafia" after waiting for 10 minutes for a reply though. The restlessness is real.
Vivax is your read on me OMGUS-based?
Seems like you went to pour over my filter for possible scummy things after I called you scum.
Am I right here?
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On September 09 2016 23:31 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 23:27 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2016 23:26 Vivax wrote:
This might just be the game where I'm calling HF mafia. I'm feeling it, but it's not going to happen this early.
Had to laugh when he said "rip tl mafia" after waiting for 10 minutes for a reply though. The restlessness is real. Vivax is your read on me OMGUS-based? Seems like you went to pour over my filter for possible scummy things after I called you scum. Am I right here? I don't respond to claims whether I'm omgusing or not. It's just an easy way for you to discredit my points, which all still stand and your blanket statement that they're incorrect is not going to change anything about that.
They're all really bad dude.
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On September 09 2016 23:20 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 17:32 Superbia wrote:
Oh fuck me. Lynched towns get to be vigi? Fuck this game lmao. Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 17:46 Superbia wrote:
I think lynching town d1 is super good to create a benevolent spirit. He also forgot what he said 15 minutes earlier. Bleh. Not a fan of this what I think could be strategic spam. I employed something similar in my scum game, just with more condensed posts.
I just said benevolent spirit instead of vengeful spirit. x; I feel to see how this is alignment indicative, but please, do enlighten me. :D
On September 09 2016 23:20 Vivax wrote:Coincidentally starts the game having the same reads as HF, but doesn't talk about HF.
Calls Grack mafia on the go, then asks Calix a question about Never even though he's the guy she talked about the most and he's not within his range of suspects (TW, TT, Grack). Seems like a random question, or wants Calix to talk about the one she obviously has a strong opinion on already.
Regarding HF: I have not shared all of my reads. I had a townlean on him at that point, which has gotten somewhat stronger. But I'm interested to see how both TT and TW react.
I also ask Calix specifically about the one post from NU because it strikes me as the most alignment indicative (I also skimmed the first x posts, so I actually don't know what has been said between the two exactly).
On another note, do you seriously expect a town to be like "well, I have 3 suspects, I'm done!"? Because that's kinda what you are implying in your post.
On September 09 2016 23:20 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 20:41 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2016 20:37 Calix wrote:On September 09 2016 20:31 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2016 20:26 Calix wrote:Yo. Doesn't look like much happened. What I got was: - Superbia is really townie given his setup-spec talk and stream-of-consciousness style posting and I don't see scum ever entering the thread like that. Also I agree with the reads he's posted. Palmar's flippancy is also kinda town although that might just be his personality. He wasn't amazingly involved in the setup talk but the way the conversation progressed made me feel good about him. - Don't like Grackaroni. It feels like he's just hanging on the sidelines; he wasn't very involved in the discussion and most of the posts I read while catching up seemed like he was posting for the sake of looking active. Like there were a lot of places where he could have posted something substantial and he just made some joke comment instead. - I don't like Tumblewood still. On September 09 2016 14:03 Tumblewood wrote:On September 09 2016 11:00 Holyflare wrote:
You shouldn't expect a follow up from Tumblewood that guy is 100% free madia lynch bait.
i'm just not gonna waste 4 hours explaining myself to some scrub who thinks he's caught me in a lie On September 09 2016 10:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 09 2016 10:21 Tumblewood wrote:
pls stop making me explain myself It's kind of the point of the game. If you have reads but can't express them, no one's going to follow them, and you're as useless as town-Palmar. Explain them. see? it's not even my reads that are unexplained. it's my non-reads. like I have to waste my time explaining why you're all scrubs and I'm not scum for saying something but not drawing a conclusion from it The worst post of this game and I've only read like 8 posts. but that makes it seem less bad if it's only one of 8 posts you've seen On September 09 2016 11:33 fuba wrote:On September 09 2016 09:26 Tumblewood wrote:
fuba also seems pretty cool While I appreciate it, it always makes me uncomfortable when people town read me, especially D1 XD sorry nvm you're scum + Show Spoiler [in case you couldn't tell] +that was a j o k e and I still think he is town can I just complain about new players for a sec? cause I'm reading some posts by NU and he keeps attacking people for being lazy. I get the intentions and that may or not be valid on your home site but here on TL lazy is the meta. it's like a competition for who can look the laziest each game. I want to sheep you hf but after last game I'm paranoid I'll take "avoiding the main points being raised against me" for £200, Alex. Add a dose of unnecessary off-topic whining about Teh N00bs. Oh noes. That last line is really scummy. It's the classic "oh I'll give lip service to lynching X scummy person but then I'll give some bullshit excuse to not follow up on it" scum tactic when the scum feel compelled to talk about their scummy partners but don't actually want to bus them - there is literally NO reason to not vote for Ticktock at this point in time. Paranoia isn't a logical excuse - wouldn't you want to clarify your suspicions by pressuring Ticktock? Why is no-voting better exactly? - The only point of Holyflare's that I find compelling is Ticktock's contradiction ("I find setup spec boring, here's some setup spec") since it makes his point look like filler. Everything else is just background noise compared to that point imo. tl;dr: Grackaroni/ Tumblewood/ Ticktock are my scum-reads and the fact that they are low-key defending each other just makes me feel more confident that lynching among these three is the best option. So: - I'm town - My one townread is town. - All my mafia reads are mafia. Good reads. In all seriousness, nice pocket regardless of your alignment. Townpass-ish! What do you think of NeverUnlucky? You've played with him before, right? I have. He's a scrub but he's town. He's more proactive and abrasive compared to his scum play. He gets mislynched a lot given he's presumptuous, arrogant, prone to trolling, has poor persuasion abilities, etc, so I am not surprised that he's under some suspicion. I am also 99% sure that he's read like, one or two past games on this site and that's why he's acting like he knows what everyone's meta is. Recently, he read one of my scum games from five months ago and now thinks he's an expert. That's how he rolls. Is he prone to be abrasive and yet form no actual opinion on someone? He calls TW 'lynchbait', which suggests he is TRing him, but nothing suggests he is reaching any actual conclusion. Seems weird to put seemingly that much energy/emotion into something but reach no real conclusion. This is one of the most misused arguments on the forum. Calling somebody lynch bait doesn't equal calling him town. It just means he's lynch bait. It's like he's trying to get Calix to scumread Never, but he isn't scumreading him either.
Ok? Then he hasn't reached any conclusion on TW at this point?
Also "trying to get Calix to scumread him". uwotm8? I'm asking Calix (whose alignment I do not know) to give a read on NU, a player which Calix is familiar with. Specifically regarding a post that I find scummy. And you're concluding I'm trying to manipulate Calix here? I am assuming NU and Calix are both town for you based on the conclusion you have reached here, yes?
On September 09 2016 23:20 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 21:27 Superbia wrote:Rofl this game has the potential to be amazing. Both HF and Palmar seem to be town. We'll see. They seem pretty null to me. HF opens like that as any alignment. Palmar only did some setup speculation. Super could just be handing out a few easy townreads to potentially dangerous players here.
I'm not a pussy. I'm perfectly fine with drawing temporary conclusions and see where they take me.
It seems to me like you have hastily drawn shitty conclusions from the interaction between Calix and myself regarding NU. This suggests to me that you were out to call me scum before you started reading your filter. Is this correct?
Feel free to say no and get lynched.
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before you started reading [b]my[/b ]filter.*
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Okay I'll expect a super townie response post-haste, Vivax. Thanks!
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Anyway heading home so brb.
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Jesus my reaction post has so many grammatical errors. Apologies.
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My solution is usually to read the thread but not the content of posts. Especially long posts. People have boring opinions that are usually wrong and always inferior to my own.
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On September 10 2016 00:08 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 00:08 Superbia wrote:
My solution is usually to read the thread but not the content of posts. Especially long posts. People have boring opinions that are usually wrong and always inferior to my own. I usually read entire posts of Race, is something wrong with me?
That's fine for a tier 4 player.
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Oh jesus not this shit again
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Is anyone taking vivax seriously? I'd prefer to ignore giant posts
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On September 10 2016 00:16 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 00:14 Superbia wrote:
Is anyone taking vivax seriously? I'd prefer to ignore giant posts He's my strongest town-read (even stronger than myself, kek).
You're also tring me sson
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Fwiw tumble is more mafia to me than tt bc he is either non commiting on lynch bait or team mate (rhymes!). It works both ways
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Seems more likely the latter
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Btw vivax pls consider that half the thread has the same scum team as the one I put down. You think they all town or wut
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On September 10 2016 00:13 Vivax wrote:A simple summary/caselet of scummy shit superbia did: - Spammed the early game up with the stream thingy cause it tends to get people townread, got sloppy about it for the sake of spamming and made the mistake about the roles. - While having a circle of suspects of TW/TT/Grack, the best question that comes to his mind for Calix is about NeverU, literally the guy calix talked about the most so far. Any other question could have been more productive. Calix opinion on NeverU was already fairly obvious from earlier convos. - That question wasn't related to superbias current circle of suspects -> ergo it was just a question to appear active, get people to talk about what they want to talk. And on top of it, it was a question easy for Calix to answer given that her opinion on NU is probably the most fleshed out in the game. - One point that isn't as important to me, but still relevant: The fact he had the same early scumreads as HF but somehow didn't relate to what HF wrote about them, or talked about HFs posts on them. This usually wouldn't be a problem if superbia actually brought up points of his own that seemed better to him than HFs points, but since I don't really see anything explaining why TT is mafia, this isn't the case. Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 22:03 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2016 21:55 Holyflare wrote:
How are both those people related?
(shit did someone say something earlier and now my thread reading is a lie?) They're both in this game. I have been inclined to group them together though I believe this has been covered by Calix before. TW's read on TT seemed non-existent and kind of forced. Plus he was willing to ignore your push on him because of 'paranoia'. Felt awkward. Like "look at how townie-paranoid I am" while not committing to anything. This is the reason superbia believes them to be suspect. It looks entirely based on TWs read on TT. You tell me if that's a good reason.
Srsly dude.
This is your case:
- I did x because it makes people TR me (this can literally be applied to anything townie in the game and is literally reverse logic. Rather than say x makes you scum, you say you're scum and therefore you did x).
- I ask someone about someone else's meta. And both are out of my 'suspect' circle. What? Why the fuck do you expect a townie to look at a select number of people. I have refuted this point and you have repeated it yet again.
- "I did x because it makes people TR me (this can literally be applied to anything townie in the game and is literally reverse logic. Rather than say x makes you scum, you say you're scum and therefore you did x)."
- I form my own opinions because HF is not reliable as I don't know his alignment. Also I'm better than HF.
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