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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 07:03 GMT
#325
On August 29 2016 16:02 Trfel wrote:
Bleh, you're right. Okay, so why do you think that Vivax is town then?

his case on Rels made me laugh.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 07:08 GMT
#327
On August 29 2016 16:05 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 16:03 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 16:02 Trfel wrote:
Bleh, you're right. Okay, so why do you think that Vivax is town then?

his case on Rels made me laugh.
But you posted that Vivax is town before he posted his case on Rels?

yes, cause I liked his early posts.
now I am still thinking he is town for having made me laugh
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 07:10 GMT
#328
and with all these questions I am fairly surprised you don't ask me where the hell my incredible hard TR on TT comes from.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 07:15 GMT
#330
On August 29 2016 16:13 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 16:10 disformation wrote:
and with all these questions I am fairly surprised you don't ask me where the hell my incredible hard TR on TT comes from.
Sure, why are you so confident that Tictock is town?

For correctly using meta to TR me, when he could just sheep one of the really strong players scumreading me.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 07:18 GMT
#331
Ah, I'll go ahead and agree with palmar's read thing on RB.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 07:25 GMT
#333
On August 29 2016 16:22 Trfel wrote:
I think I kind of like DanelerH. It feels like he is involved with the game and actually interested in looking into people's thinking behind their actions. Thoughts?

I liked that he came in with an original read and did not just rehash/rephrase/do nothing. Also liked his reaction, when ppl pointed out that this is koshis usual playstyle. Feels organic and not forced.
So yes agree.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 07:28 GMT
#334
problem i am at now: besides rels there is no one in this game (besides rels for doing jack) I feel particularly inclined to call scum. So I def. missed something.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 07:33 GMT
#335
@geript:
Can you explain your Race scumread? You only say that he picked a weird pair to scumread.
Also why I am more likely to be scum than TW and Race?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 07:46 GMT
#337
On August 29 2016 16:34 Trfel wrote:
Tumblewood

Tumblewood has made several reads this game but it doesn't feel like he cares about those reads at all. One big example of this is his Palmar read:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:35 Tumblewood wrote:
maybe palmar's mafia
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:36 Tumblewood wrote:
idk I feel like if you applied that read to every situation you'd lynch scum the same amount as normal.
Tumblewood feels a bit unsure and apathetic about Palmar's scumread of Rels, but still seems to think that Palmar may be mafia. Yet when I asked him for more about this read, he said no.

In addition, there is no continuity to his reads. It just doesn't seem like he cares about his reads at all.

Thoughts?

I did like the scott spreadsheet thing. Also liked how he was just like "Koshi your read sucks" for tone reasons. Though the later one is super weak.
Rest of his filter is super bleh. Like I get demotivated from reading that, too. xD

Guess that would make for a scumlean or something.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 07:50 GMT
#338
On a side note: I am not sure I like geript not interacting with anyone and just dumping these post by post commentaries in thread.
Does feel totally different to geript when I last played with him.
But since that was a long while ago and I only played with geript once:
can the ppl who played with geript more often comment on that?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 07:57 GMT
#346
On August 29 2016 16:52 Trfel wrote:
Disformation, I have a terrible meta read that says that Tictock is mafia.

My terrible meta read is that when Tictock is mafia, he tends to cooperate with people and be a bit nicer to them. And when he's town, he can be a bit more abrasive and uses a harsher tone to voice his suspicions.

I think that this meta is semi-decent (but terrible because I am the one who said it), and I think that it points towards Tictock being mafia in this game. Do you agree with my interpretation of Tictock's meta, and if so, do you agree with my interpretation of Tictock's play this game with respect to this?

hm.
well he might be trying to pocket/buddy me. In which case he has succeeded.
I remember that TT can get into really bad tunnels as town, which is why I call him tunneltock from time to time. Don't really know about that nice/brash thing. Would have to read some old filters from him.
I remember being impressed by his scum play in a game where I shadowed... damdy?
So not sure about this without reading some old games.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 07:59 GMT
#348
Dunno. TW feels a bit like in palmars game after he gave up.
Makes no sense to have given up in this game though. xD
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 08:10 GMT
#355
On August 29 2016 17:03 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 16:03 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 16:02 Trfel wrote:
Bleh, you're right. Okay, so why do you think that Vivax is town then?

his case on Rels made me laugh.

Not sure if I like this answer but I'll allow it.

Thank you for your generosity. :p
On August 29 2016 17:03 Trfel wrote:
Sorry, disformation, I know I've asked you a ton of questions this game, but one more....

I'm honestly not really sure where you're at, even after reading your filter. Who are some of your strongest townreads and scumreads?

Uh. That would require myself knowing where I am at?

Let me try:

wtf I dont know how to handle that
new scott

I think is town, but dont want to call town, because trust issues from last game
koshi

town lean for shitty reasons
vivax
rb
DanelerH

town read for shitty reasons
tt

actualy town read
trfel

scum leans
tw
rels royce
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 08:10 GMT
#356
On August 29 2016 17:08 Koshi wrote:
Going to run with a TW & RB mafia team. You guys can find the third.

can you explain your RB scum read for me?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 08:22 GMT
#360
On August 29 2016 17:19 Koshi wrote:
It's an unflipped association read with a pinch of TMI.


The really good stuff.

also: without any explanation whatsoever.
what do you think about that vt flavor thing he started out with?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 08:26 GMT
#362
On August 29 2016 17:24 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 17:22 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 17:19 Koshi wrote:
It's an unflipped association read with a pinch of TMI.


The really good stuff.

also: without any explanation whatsoever.
what do you think about that vt flavor thing he started out with?

goddamn that was him. Ok, that is a bit problematic.
Ok let's keep him at null then.


The only way I can see mafia do that is if there actually is VT flavor in the QT and he wanted to be brave. But I doubt it because all the roles are in the OP.

yeah, that is why I have him as a shitty town lean.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 08:38 GMT
#367
I hate how everyone seems to think I am good at this game.
Also went through geripts walls and tried to add up his reads/comments via a point system:
(note that this is an interpretation)
-: bad post
+: good post
|: meh post

trfel: - - + -
disfo: + - -
tw: - - -
palmar: | - - -
scott: + -
vivax: +
koshi: +
hf: | +
TT: + - |
rb: -

mostly lines up with his actual reads at the end of his second wall.
kinda want him to explain why he doesnt think palmar is scum despite disliking a lot of palmars posts + the questions I asked earlier.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 08:47 GMT
#369
On August 29 2016 17:33 Trfel wrote:
So I think I am at.....

Town

Palmar - Meta
Vivax? - Meta I like the way he dove in, most notably the read on Tumblewood. Though I don't like that he stopped doing stuff at roughly the same time that disformation and I called him town. That might have simply been bedtime in his part of Europe though.

Town Lean

scott31337 - He's doing stuff. Normally scott31337 doesn't do stuff. That generally isn't a meta that you break for the first time as mafia.
DanelerH?
disformation? - I'm allowed to waffle on waffle boy.

Maybe Mafia Ish?

Tictock?
Rels?
Tumblewood

Not really that sure on the rest to be honest. I really don't like geript's thing on Tictock, but the rest of it is sensible, even if not great; I don't feel super confident pursuing this yet.

vivax last post was at 00.10 his time. So yeah would make sense for him to go to bed at that time.
Can you explain that palmar meta thing when you come back?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 08:55 GMT
#370
I actually took a look at the meta read NM used to figure out scum!palmar in star wars the mafia awaken and then compared palmars filter from that game to the one he has here.
using that as a basis I too think Palmar is playing to his town meta this game.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 08:58 GMT
#371
On August 29 2016 17:55 disformation wrote:
I actually took a look at the meta read NM used to figure out scum!palmar in star wars the mafia awaken and then compared palmars filter from that game to the one he has here.
using that as a basis I too think Palmar is playing to his town meta this game.

to explain: town!palmar is very sure of himself, even if he is wrong.
in star wars awaken, he used a lot of weakish statements like "might be" "might not be" etc. and was scum.
Looking at his filter this game he seems to be pretty sure in his statements, hence that makes him more likely town.
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