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On June 20 2016 22:05 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2016 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 20 2016 18:47 Skynx wrote:
Its wierd of you to push me btw, I was the only one to get the goon correct. You realize that's not really a point in favor of you being town? I don't see how you conclude this. If we lynched Yamato they would have to kill one of remaining 5 now meaning more information for us and anyway we lynch Super today and win. But you guys didn't want that to happen.
And you didn't vocally object that. I mean, i am not saying it makes you mafia but it definitely doesn't make you town. Just because you have not played as much as other people in this game doesn't mean you shouldn't voice your opinion / make your stance perfectly clear. You are allowed to say and object things you think are going to end up being a wrong decision.
If you are not mafia, then who is? I am not pushing for your lynch here, now. I am trying to figure out what is the most likely answer and from what i know, rsoultin is not the correct answer for being mafia, and i am almost sure Cake is not mafia either. If you disagree with me, let me know why. If you think i am mafia, let other people know why - and give me a chance to answer your accusation. The fact is that "figuring out who is the goon" doesn't make you town and while it doesn't make you mafia either saying that i look fishy (or whatever you are saying) is kinda bs because i have in my opinion clearly elaborated on how i have come to my conclusions in this game.
Just saying "he is calling me mafia so i call him mafia" is not a valid reason, and that's what i see you saying atm. Or like.. at least vocally attacking me just because i am entertaining the possibility of you being mafia.
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Okay. I am letting it go, in fact i wasn't even calling you mafia for it in the first place, i just said i don't count it as a reason that would make you town. 
Because if you are mafia that's what you would want and that's how you would most likely approach it.
Anyways, when you can, i'd like to hear more elaboration on who IS mafia. We've got time, but i'd rather start figuring this out sooner than later since i am not sure who is mafia at this point.
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On June 20 2016 07:17 Shapelog wrote:
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But in all seriousness, I had nothing to do with shooting Yammty, and wouldn't. If I was scum, I would of taken the easy ML (going off of what rsoul last post said, due to me being absent) since my 3 for 3 scum streak is alive.
I read/catch up now
On June 20 2016 08:39 Shapelog wrote:
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Meh
Was going to say something about yammty, but I forgot he flipped so lol.
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Do you want to say something about this Shapelog?
I actually find it quite hard to believe that you forgot, in 1 hour and 12 minutes, when you were doing a re-read, who flipped. Especially since basically yamato being shot is the "reason" you are being accused of being scum for -- or part of it.
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yes.
We still have time though. I am not going to decide this now just because i don't have to. I am just saying regardless of who yamato voted for being shot he said, in thread, that Skynx is in his opinion most likely to be mafia.
But yes, you are right. I have a hard time seeing anything else as a possible solution. But I am not going to just decide that's it, because i still remember how marv could never be mafia with DP and has to be mafia with Rels because "otherwise he would have voted Rels" in the RSM II game. I'd actually like to not lose this game so anyone is town please do not get lazy now, we already basically got saved with the yamato shot lol.
After dinner i am gonna go see who Cake shot in the PYP game on final nights. Just to have a perspective on if it's totally out of her "league" to make a shot like that or not.
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EBWOP: possible solution to the night kill...
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What i mean regarding Skynx is that yamato actually started posting. yamato is one of the people with highest number of games on this forum. It's not totally out of question yamato starts being active at D2 and towntells and the right people figure out he is town, if Skynx is the godfather.
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meh she didn't kill anyone when she was alive alone...
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Cake would you or would you not shoot yamato if you were mafia? Why?
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I kinda am thinking (and I will admit cake, this might be paranoid) that the shot was a frame shot on me due to my meta. The prob. is that I cannot just go "Oh it is one of ryan/rsoul, due to them knowing my scum meta." because super was scum, and could of told either skynx or cake about how I shot.
This is the important thing Shape. This is the answer you will give as either alignment most likely.
But for the real answer. Who did it and where is the evidence for that?
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Shapelog so you think Skynx is the towniest person in the game besides you correct?
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Yes, just do stuff when you are not working aka night.
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On June 21 2016 05:04 CopCake wrote:
Like the right answer here rn is that whoever shot Yamato is newbie or is me or is someone that knows me (pointing you and rsoul)
Well that covers everyone in this game.....
Also why do you say this?
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On June 21 2016 05:09 CopCake wrote:
Oh i know everybody here? I dont know i dont remember meeting shape.
no i meant your answer said "anyone in the game" into "who you think would kill yamato".
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i can sorta kinda make an argument for rayn independent of my read on how he's playing (which is actually how i always read him and has proven to be accurate way beyond my usual level of accuracy with other players) that he might be concerned about a shot on me when he's the more obvious scum shot. but that would involve discarding my read. it's paranoia and nothing else really
What does this mean in 5yr old english?
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On June 21 2016 05:15 CopCake wrote:
Rayn you can like take every word i say with tissues because of my grammar, the person that killed yamato is either:
- newbie
- rsoultin or you
- myself
Obvs is not me because I am town.
yes and for the players who are not Superbia in this game that includes all the players in the game since Shapelog and Skynx are newbies (in relation to other players and their experience with them) and rest of them are you, me and rsoultin.
So i was kinda looking for the answer for "who would in your opinion most likely shoot yamato" and you said "anyone".
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On June 21 2016 05:19 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2016 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:i can sorta kinda make an argument for rayn independent of my read on how he's playing (which is actually how i always read him and has proven to be accurate way beyond my usual level of accuracy with other players) that he might be concerned about a shot on me when he's the more obvious scum shot. but that would involve discarding my read. it's paranoia and nothing else really What does this mean in 5yr old english? it means that i think you're town based on my usual method of reading you, which i've had a lot of success with it means that objectively, the most townread player might choose to shoot someone who isn't because it would look weird for me to die over him it means that despite that i trust my read more than the paranoid, maybe rayn shot yamato cause he couldn't shoot himself, thought make sense?
yes, makes sense.
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So,
rsoultin thinks mafia is Shapelog.
Cake thinks mafia is Shapelog?
I am about 55% Shapelog 44% Skynx, 1% Cake.
Shapelog thinks mafia is rsoultin (or cake or Skynx??? i am not sure)
I don't know who Skynx thinks is mafia.
Skynx when you get back, who is mafia.
Shapelog too.
If you don't know who is mafia or cannot make an educated guess, i'd like more questionmarks in your posts.
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What i mean is noone is gonna come and say "yo i am scum" and both of you cannot be mafia anyways. So dig further if you can't make a decision.
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Shapelog have you looked at how the last ~5 hours of the night evolved? This is based on your theory answer.
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EPT
