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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 18 2016 15:52 GMT
#222
Actually a quick glance to Shapelog's Storm filter (as scum) and from what i remember suggests that he is like... having a more hard time to entering the game as town then he does as mafia and that leads to him being more trolly and fluffy.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 18 2016 19:10 GMT
#233
I believe we talked about that in some games obs qt no? I remember you having hard time to figure out what to look for early (not really hard time posting in itself) and i think that shows. I mean as scum i have recently noticed you are ... How to say it... You look more informed than as town, in a sense that as scum you "know what to talk about" and i feel like you are not just trying to figure out things from scratch.

And i think it is definitely different here.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 18 2016 19:18 GMT
#235
Skynx can be town too. I'll explain when sauna is over.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 18 2016 20:44 GMT
#242
I'm prolly gonna call it night for today.

On June 19 2016 02:09 yamato77 wrote:
My post was more an existential crisis than any attempt at forming a read.

I'll be around later.

I would still like you to explain the post. I mean you are not just putting random words after each other right? From what i see the post clearly says something and i would like to know what the true intention of the post is in case my interpretation of it is wrong.

I also want Superbia to talk. Answer me, and talk. Idk how anyone can townread him here. If there is a reason please explain, anyone? I don't see any reasons to townread him atm, in fact atm i would be leaning to the other side more...

This is just what i was talking about earlier..
On June 18 2016 22:57 CopCake wrote:
I havent called you scum yet tho, i said it was weird.

On June 19 2016 01:28 CopCake wrote:
Hello rsoultin talk to me and tell me when you think rayn is mafia.

Which is it? What changed between those posts? Because the later post clearly implies that you think i am mafia. Also why do you direct the question to rsoultin, who is the other person you are supposedly scumreading atm, since you had no complaints about the Shapelog meta point that was debunked. Or if you do, why didn't you say anything? I mean what are you trying to achieve by basically telling your scumread to scumread your other scumread when you know (or at least should know) that rsoultin is not even scumreading me?

I think Skynx is town because when i "pushed" him for reads he didn't make anything up. I would expect that a newer player as scum would have felt the need to give me something so they don't look like a "non-contributor", especially when i had JUST made a set of posts where i clearly imply at least i have something to work with in the game. He could have jumped on yamato, Superbia, or even rsoultin (the read i hadn't clarified yet) or question me about those reads (especially the rsoultin one). Basically the only way i see him being mafia atm is if he is mafia exactly with rsoultin and rsoultin is the GF. But first of all i don't think rsoultin is mafia and second the whole thing is so far fetched i am not going further into that since there is no reason to assume that and the easiest explanation is that he is just town.

To Shapelog. Technically the correct play is what you were asking yes. The problem however is that in case we miss shooting the GF the bias is basically gonna be too much and we end up deciding the lynch in the first 48 hours, which is also bad. We should be aiming for the GF ofc, but just because someone is "too scummy to be GF" they should not get a pass. I think it's best to just play it straight up and shoot a scumym person and then lynch another scummy person based on more evidence. Cute tricks usually end up fucking the town more than they are gonna achieve. Just keep it simple.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 18 2016 21:08 GMT
#244
Like even if we end up shooting the goon there is still scum alive who is basically forced to make a bullshit read on someone on D1, and can be figured out. That's why it is crucial people play starting for the beginning. That we already have the most possible amount of reads / info before the day starts.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 18 2016 21:54 GMT
#247
Too tired today but i need to go through Superbia's filter in JAT game in the morning.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 18 2016 21:54 GMT
#248
Maybe in the newbie game that just ended too.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 18 2016 22:02 GMT
#250
i do think we should all decide who we want to vig shot as if it were a lynch...

yes ofc we will. i thought that was clear from the beginning to all people.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 19 2016 09:29 GMT
#262
Morning!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 19 2016 09:40 GMT
#265
yes. your last set of posts is the epitome of uselessness like in your filter in JAT game tbh. Do you wanna do something about that?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 19 2016 09:43 GMT
#266
I mean you just made a set of posts and followed it up with this:
On June 19 2016 08:01 Superbia wrote:
bleh I may just be spouting nonsense.

.. like in JAT game, the first ~30 posts in your filter is "start from 0 just to end back in 0".

Could you answer me regarding the Shapelog thing?
On June 18 2016 20:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2016 08:13 Superbia wrote:
I have played with you=scum before rite? storm mafia thingy? Where I was 3rdp?

Could you expand on this, mainly on why you think Shapelog is town?

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 19 2016 09:47 GMT
#268
To be completely honest, people who post a shitton of one-liners and "fail to realize" what are the important discussion points -- or ignore stuff i find to be relevant -- (or don't really bring up anything new on the table) are super hard to read for me. In the latest newbie game the whole D1 was basically Jealous vs QT and there too Superbia basically avoided touching the whole issue with even a long stick, and since he is a player who is actually capable of quite decent play and capable of leading the town i found that highly unlike that he was town in that game. I was horribly wrong.

Anyways Superbia, my opinion atm is that if the latest burst of posts is the best you can offer you can get lynched or shot.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 19 2016 09:47 GMT
#269
On June 19 2016 18:44 Superbia wrote:
How do you feel about cake's push on you?

It's dumb but idk if it makes her scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 19 2016 09:48 GMT
#271
I don't even know if it is a push or not because she still hasn't clearly clarified if it is or not... Which obviously makes it look worse.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 19 2016 09:50 GMT
#273
On June 19 2016 18:48 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2016 18:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean you just made a set of posts and followed it up with this:
On June 19 2016 08:01 Superbia wrote:
bleh I may just be spouting nonsense.

.. like in JAT game, the first ~30 posts in your filter is "start from 0 just to end back in 0".

Could you answer me regarding the Shapelog thing?
On June 18 2016 20:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 18 2016 08:13 Superbia wrote:
I have played with you=scum before rite? storm mafia thingy? Where I was 3rdp?

Could you expand on this, mainly on why you think Shapelog is town?



One thing I noticed about shapelog as mafia is that his trolling is inherently awkward and forced. So hes superjumpy and actually superdefensive (in qt he genuinely freaks out when I joke about being the cop and having a red on him, even though its super obv a joke). His reaction to my initial prod is comfortable

Okay. So why the questionmarks in your post?
On June 18 2016 08:13 Superbia wrote:
I have played with you=scum before rite? storm mafia thingy? Where I was 3rdp?

What does this post mean?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 19 2016 09:51 GMT
#274
On June 19 2016 18:50 Superbia wrote:
The way I play and get reads is just a little different :p also my new schedule makes it superhard to be a leader bc eods are during my sleep

I understand that and i am not saying it makes you mafia. But if you choose to ignore everything that is important, or as i said, start from 0 and end back to 0 with your posts that DOES make you mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 19 2016 09:54 GMT
#276
On June 19 2016 07:59 Superbia wrote:
rayn's posts are way too long for me to read at this time of the night x;

On June 19 2016 08:00 Superbia wrote:
I have a vague idea what he is but need to revisit tomorrow.

I mean, what the fuck are posts like this?
If you have time to make these posts why don't you -- instead of posting this -- tell us what you think for reals?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 19 2016 09:55 GMT
#277
On June 19 2016 18:54 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2016 18:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 19 2016 18:48 Superbia wrote:
On June 19 2016 18:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean you just made a set of posts and followed it up with this:
On June 19 2016 08:01 Superbia wrote:
bleh I may just be spouting nonsense.

.. like in JAT game, the first ~30 posts in your filter is "start from 0 just to end back in 0".

Could you answer me regarding the Shapelog thing?
On June 18 2016 20:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 18 2016 08:13 Superbia wrote:
I have played with you=scum before rite? storm mafia thingy? Where I was 3rdp?

Could you expand on this, mainly on why you think Shapelog is town?



One thing I noticed about shapelog as mafia is that his trolling is inherently awkward and forced. So hes superjumpy and actually superdefensive (in qt he genuinely freaks out when I joke about being the cop and having a red on him, even though its super obv a joke). His reaction to my initial prod is comfortable

Okay. So why the questionmarks in your post?
On June 18 2016 08:13 Superbia wrote:
I have played with you=scum before rite? storm mafia thingy? Where I was 3rdp?

What does this post mean?


Being lazy. I sometimes mix player meta up (eg i thought moosy was shape in d1 prev newb game)

So you actually meta town read Shapelog without actually remembering how he played in the game you referenced to? Is that what you are saying? Or what?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 19 2016 09:59 GMT
#280
Why rsoultin?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 19 2016 10:08 GMT
#281
On June 19 2016 02:14 Skynx wrote:
Well I didn't pick up anything interesting other than that Yamato post.
I agree with ryan on fact that its not reactive. Its almost too wifom to be scum, if not just a very pointless post from town perspective.

Actually what do you mean with this Skynx?
Isn't "too wifom to be scum" = "very pointless post from town perspective" = "town"?
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