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On June 11 2016 05:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
I just want to point out that the host did not answer the setup questions. You guys are about to lose the game because you lynch me. Two protective roles make absolute sense if there is a roleblocker in.
I hold Jealous' claim for genuine.
More points against Superbia: he was townread almost all the time. How is mafia not killing this guy?
Points against Moosy: why exactly did he check me? He townread me before. So why say I am scum? Because my activity Level is low enough to make me an easy target.
Also note that there are a lot of people that seem just fine doing - nothing. Those people are to blame once I flip.
Again, I am the doctor. Moosy is not the cop. In a setup based on dies, Two protective roles are possible. Especially since this game's hosting has been rather slow and lackluster, no offense.
Based on the OP 2 protective roles are impossible, and having looked at the setup enough I understand why Cop/Doc/Framer is impossible now. It seems as though mafia is guaranteed to have a RB and the role that the rolls determine is Framer/GF.
Cop/Vet setup would mean that mafia has a Framer though.
Best guess is that BtDt is the RB/Framer, and mafia tried to Frame Emp last night. Would explain why in his original claim he believed mafia had both RB and Framer (they do).
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There is one thing I could talk about, but it's not very important atm... Otherwise I don't feel like I have anything to add at this juncture.
Won't be around today, so see everyone after the flip.
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Had one a hellofa weekend...
Will be catching up with this game sometime tonight.
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Humm, slowly catching up and rereading some stuff.
I'd like to be seeing a little more out of Skynx and Scott, it's interesting that they are going after each other pretty much right off the bat.
Also I'd like to know why Scott ninja voted Emp here.
Emp what are your thoughts atm? Who do you think is scum?
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On June 14 2016 06:13 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2016 06:11 Tictock wrote:
Humm, slowly catching up and rereading some stuff.
I'd like to be seeing a little more out of Skynx and Scott, it's interesting that they are going after each other pretty much right off the bat.
Also I'd like to know why Scott ninja voted Emp here.
Emp what are your thoughts atm? Who do you think is scum? It's not a ninja vote - I'm voting with my conftown 100% Jealous
Ah thats right.
Kinda a cop out move though... eh?
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Scott do you think Skynx and EC are the last two mafia?
Personally I'm kinda coming back to this game with fresh eyes since I was away for a full couple of days. I'm seeing a couple of possible worlds that both seem equally likely atm.
I was playing this game without doing real filter dives just skimming for key posts, but I think I might need to try and cross check a few things.
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@ Emp
I'm not sure how you can look at my EoD2 and think I was hedging my bets.
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Also for Skynx.
You had a scum read on me for most of the game, can you tell me what your read of me is now and what (if anything) has changed?
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On June 14 2016 15:19 Superbia wrote:
TT why has your scumread on me evaporated? You were coming into d3 voting me, but after the red check I'm nowhere to be seen.
Why was I your hardest scum then? What happened that made you flip so enormously? From what I see you are no longer even considering me. What happened to tinfoil?
It hasn't, I was just wanting to get more out of Scott and Skynx before I try to wrap my head around this game.
Like... those 2 seemed like a good shot for the last 2 scum a few days ago but today it's not clicking in my head. Tbh they feel like the low hanging fruit of the game atm.
I think I can only see 2 teams being possible atm, Scott and Skynx or Super and Emp.
I think the biggest thing that is bugging me about you Super is stuff like this.
On June 06 2016 04:53 Superbia wrote:
I dislike that everyone was scumreading quicky that quickly (lolol), but I also don't like how quicky has been playing.
Tbh, I have looked up a game of quicky on another site (town game), and quickly looked through it on Friday. He struck me as a decently clever town player. I'm kind of missing that feeling here. He feels very defensive and uncomfortable.
But I'm pussying out and voting kush.
I think this post summarizes your D1, you spent a decent bit of time posting and pushing some idea's around the first 2 days, but when push came to shove you went with Kush both times. On the one hand that seemed fine kus Kush was def not playing up to snuff, but looking back on this post it's just not sitting right how you are pushing Quick as scum but voting Kush.
I'm also sure you could make the play to bury a teammate who got redchecked, so I'm not ready to give you a pass for pointing out mechanics that made BtDt's claim impossible.
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Yea, I think I want to lynch Emp today. Looking over his filter it all feels like fluff to me. I gave him a bunch of credit before for the late vote on Kush but I don't think that justifies a townread anymore.
Honestly my thinking here today is this. There has been a lot of pushing on Scott and Skynx such that they seemed like the next obv lynch targets. Today though I'm seeing both of them stepping up and trying to solve the game (not by huge leaps and bounds, but it's still there). Scott buddying his vote to Jealous is also coming off as town mindset to me, as in this situation town HAS to vote together otherwise scum can pile onto a mislynch and win right at the end of the day if someone is solo voting.
Thats the vibe I'm getting from Super and Emp too, no really strong opinions from them or pushes. Feels like lots of questions and keeping options open.
I know I'm not providing much evidence here, but I think I'm really starting to lean towards Emp/Super being the last 2 scum.
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Skynx, I know you don't exactly trust me and thats fair, but if you are town we need to be able to reach an agreement about who to vote today.
You asked me about your read on Scott, but tbh that whole post is more like you are building an association case between me and Scott, so I'm not sure how to answer besides I'm thinking Scott is town here.
It seems to me that if anyone thinks I'm scum it pretty much has to be with Emp because of how much I defended him D2.
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Nice job guys, especially Jealous for sticking with his guns.
Sorry I wasn't around, storms knocked out our power here all day.
Jealous you are like 100% the NK tonight man. You are confirmed town and scum can't afford to leave you alive, especially since you held strong and got scum lynched today.
I think the last scum has to be Super. Just reading over that EoD he did almost anything to get people to switch off of Emp, but the real nail in the coffin for me is the fact that he voted off wagon.
I made the point earlier that if one town was voting town then scum could just swap their votes last min and seal the victory. Super should know this all to well, but he was never willing to consolidate and vote Emp. Rather he was willing to risk the game to vote me.
Because of the way the votes ended up the last scum can literally only be Me or Super.
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On June 15 2016 08:00 Shapelog wrote:Final Day 4 vote count
emperorchampion(4): Jealous, Scott31337, Tictock, Skynx Scott31337(0): Skynx, EmperorchampionTictock(1) Jealous, Superbia, EmperorchampionSkynx(1): Scott31337, Emperorchampion
Err actually I'm wrong. If super is town and one of scott or skynx switched (along with Emp ofc) it would only tie things up and Emp still gets lynched.
Emp's votes here are probably WIFOM but man did he flail hard. It's kinda interesting that he didn't join Super on me in an effort to save himself.
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On June 15 2016 06:02 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2016 15:23 Superbia wrote:
EC we have two lynches. If you could decide both of them, what would they be? And why?
Why is the third person town? 1) Scott 2) Skynx Scott: got through the first 2 days based off of "I dunno who to vote I haven't gotten a role yet, I guess the person ahead of me". His one contribution was a list of reads which were based off of... well I'm not really sure. Especially odd I found was his read on TT, which was just "reminded me of another game I played". Day 3 is a wash. Now coming to day 4 he's pushing me (which is an obvious target given D2 lol), and has nothing to say about TT despite scum reading him all game (I guess for no reason after all). Hitches his vote with Jealous (who has voted incorrectly all game (not saying that I haven't), but that doesn't make any sense to me to vote with him for that reason alone). I dunno, it's like he doesn't even care if it's right or wrong. Skynx: I've felt is mafia since the beginning of the game. Maybe he can just use noob as an excuse, but he was doing everything "by the guide", which doesn't make any sense to me at all. Its another one of those "oh if I'm wrong this is why", and not taking credit for things. Scum reads me for shitposting, but also shitposts. Of course both will go for me, since I am the easy target given D2 voting. TT is town because of a number of town posts. Also I believe that we have had a similar view on the game at many points during the game. But anyways, guess I'm gettin' wagon'd again boys
Yea, pretty sure this means the last scum is never Skynx or Scott.
Clever that he threw out such a throwaway townread on me here though.
Tomorrow is 100% between me and Super.
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On June 15 2016 07:52 Superbia wrote:
Idk EC. Tbf the closer this is getting to EoD the more likely I think it is you are scum. x;
This is such a shit post right before EoD.
Spent the whole time trying to get people to move to Scott and then me, then right before the flip "oh, yea I guess you could be scum"
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On June 15 2016 16:36 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2016 11:26 Tictock wrote:On June 15 2016 07:52 Superbia wrote:
Idk EC. Tbf the closer this is getting to EoD the more likely I think it is you are scum. x; This is such a shit post right before EoD. Spent the whole time trying to get people to move to Scott and then me, then right before the flip "oh, yea I guess you could be scum" How does any of this make me scum? Your storyline is that I bus my team mate during mylo d1 super super hard and then hard defend my other team mate during mylo 2 super super hard. How does this fit the narrative for me as scum? Also I could've switched to scott (both skynx and EC were willing to vote), but didn't. What is my scum agenda TT?
BtDt had a redcheck against him Emp did not.
This aint rocket science.
Also wtf does it even matter if I was here EoD or not? Like how does that make me scum and warrent you voting me?
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Going over your play this game the whole thing fits scum agenda except for the stuff about BtDt, and I think that's pretty self explanatory when you see how many people were already on board with Moosy's claim and BtDt's fakeclaim was pretty horseshit (even without the setup logic).
Hell even the fact that you called BtDt a role or scum D1 but never followed that up with any pressure or anything screams of TMI.
Then there is the way that you acted around both town lynches. I quoted your post about "Well QT looks like scum, and meta supports it, but Kush!" from D1 then D2 you went "well Idk if Kush is actually scum, but I'm just gunna stay here anyways". D3 yea you provided setup proof that BtDt's claim wasn't legit, though you also kept asking for another claim to disprove Moosy's. Really though yesturday was pretty telling. I don't recall you once giving an opinion on Emp, but you pushed pretty hard for Scott and then when I wasn't around EoD you started freaking out and pushed me.
Way too much of your play aligns with scum agenda Super, and nothing is helping me see you as town.
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On June 16 2016 03:16 Jealous wrote:
So TT, it would be fair to say that you think Superbia nailed BtDt's coffin with his mathematical analysis in order to curry favor with town? Like, he was worried someone else might jump on the inconsistency?
What bothers me about this is that I doubt BtDt made a claim like that without conferring with his scum colleagues, so this would mean that Superbia would have to have told BtDt to claim an impossible role, reveal that it was impossible to curry favor, have BtDt continue to incriminate himself by claiming yet another role, and thus eliminate any chance of scum winning on D3. That just doesn't seem like a smart thing to do.
Humm this is actually a pretty good point.
I'll relook at things in a few hours.
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Humm, initial thought is that these posts don't naturally come from Scum.
On June 06 2016 23:23 Superbia wrote:
Fml they may have a framer. Cop, do what you want.
On June 06 2016 23:24 Superbia wrote:
Like if I flip tonight you guys need to question emperor on his scumread on me thoroughly
Though tbh they also feel a little WIFOM, as is this post...
On June 07 2016 05:06 Superbia wrote:
Give your opinion near eon. 1m before deadline. I sincerely hope this is a play bc if you're town mafia can just nk you to put pressure on me throughout the game
It's actually kinda tempting to think that the Tumble NK points to Super being scum, given that Fecal was very likely killed due to his pressure on Emp.
These are talking about blkcoffee.
On June 08 2016 05:42 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 05:41 Tictock wrote:
Uhh nothing new to go on so my read hasn't changed.
Yolo He's probably going to get replaced or modkilled. I think we shouldn't give his slot a pass if he gets replaced. Agreed?
On June 08 2016 05:42 Superbia wrote:
I don't think we should*
On June 08 2016 05:50 Superbia wrote:
Tbf I hope he gets modkilled as long as he's not a PR.
On June 08 2016 05:50 Superbia wrote:
Actually that loses us a lynch so maybe not.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but Super starts off implying blk coffee could be scum then concludes him being modkilled loses us a lynch. Yet blkcoffee flipping only lost us a lynch if he flipped town, so Super is concluding here that blkcoffee is town.
I think this is the first mention of BtDt in Supers filter (about 1/3 of the way in)
On June 08 2016 06:43 Superbia wrote:This is also unlikely to come from a teammate of Emp... though it's also unlikely there would be a Vig holding his shot on N2 as well. Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 16:20 Superbia wrote:
Man. Sorry guys. I need to step up my game and take control more. =/ Work just has me pinned down and it also prevents me from being here during EoD.
I'm going to be super selfish and request a medic save on me. Tomorrow is Friday and I can start pouring some actual time into the game. Also I can finally be part of EoD.
If there is a vigi, you should probably shoot emperorchampion. It's paramount that we figure out how the wagons were set up. I want to know why no one is interested in beentheredonethat anymore
On June 09 2016 18:10 Superbia wrote:
If blkcoffee is flipping/getting modkilled then vigi should shoot emperorchampion. Otherwise we hold the vigi shot because we get an extra day and therefore an extra night of night actions.
Made it about halfway through Super's filter before I'm deciding to take a break. 30 pages is kinda an insane filter given how this game has been going.
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EBWOP:
I think this is the first mention of BtDt in Supers filter (about 1/3 of the way in)
On June 08 2016 06:43 Superbia wrote:
I want to know why no one is interested in beentheredonethat anymore
This is also unlikely to come from a teammate of Emp... though it's also unlikely there would be a Vig holding his shot on N2 as well.
On June 09 2016 16:20 Superbia wrote:
Man. Sorry guys. I need to step up my game and take control more. =/ Work just has me pinned down and it also prevents me from being here during EoD.
I'm going to be super selfish and request a medic save on me. Tomorrow is Friday and I can start pouring some actual time into the game. Also I can finally be part of EoD.
If there is a vigi, you should probably shoot emperorchampion. It's paramount that we figure out how the wagons were set up.
On June 09 2016 18:10 Superbia wrote:
If blkcoffee is flipping/getting modkilled then vigi should shoot emperorchampion. Otherwise we hold the vigi shot because we get an extra day and therefore an extra night of night actions.
Made it about halfway through Super's filter before I'm deciding to take a break. 30 pages is kinda an insane filter given how this game has been going.
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