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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 08 2016 21:56 GMT
#1417
Emp what do you make of the wagon that has formed on you?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 08 2016 22:10 GMT
#1422
Jealous, why Emp over Kush?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 08 2016 22:19 GMT
#1427
On June 09 2016 07:12 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 07:10 Tictock wrote:
Jealous, why Emp over Kush?

Why kush over EC?


Kush has done jack all today but vote Skynx who wasn't even a scumread of his until he made that post about Skynx's case on QT.

Emp has been pretty active and open with his thoughts. I might have a really good reason to townread him actually but I have to ponder it a bit more and double check something.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 08 2016 22:22 GMT
#1428
Actually I almost forgot about this post.

On June 06 2016 12:50 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shitlist
Ec
Tt
Tw
Ff


If Emp is town then I'm 99% sure this list is all town. I'm feeling about 87% on that already actually.

+ Show Spoiler +
54% chance I'm not just pulling percentages out of my ass.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 08 2016 22:26 GMT
#1432
I really hate that Jealous asked that question >.<
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 08 2016 22:29 GMT
#1434
Yea we should be lynching Kush here guys. I'm not feeling any of these other lynches.

I will have to berate some people if Emp gets lynched and flips town.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 08 2016 22:30 GMT
#1435
Scott first and formost since he keeps referencing my first scumgame to justify his fear read of me.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 08 2016 22:36 GMT
#1438
On June 09 2016 07:32 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 07:29 Tictock wrote:
Yea we should be lynching Kush here guys. I'm not feeling any of these other lynches.

I will have to berate some people if Emp gets lynched and flips town.

It strikes me as interesting that on both days you were the third to vote for the current ban leader. Jumping on the bandwagon?


Hey as long as the wagon has the proper furnishings. This one is feeling much more comfy than QT's so I have no inklings of hopping off it like I did his.

These lynches are pretty different tbh.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 08 2016 22:41 GMT
#1442
I was thinking of giving Emp a townread simply for not instantly moving his vote to Kush when the wagons were tied.

And while I'm not thrilled by this post
On June 09 2016 07:11 emperorchampion wrote:
idk, I'm so suspicous of both scott and kush

I just realized that kush was the first to post
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 11:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On June 06 2016 05:05 scott31337 wrote:
I still haven't gotten my role and I've PM'ed all three hosts phhbbt I have to vote though


On June 06 2016 05:20 scott31337 wrote:
Alright I finally got it I'm town

I kept thinking if I was mafia with QT and had already voted for him it'd be really bad lol


oh god this is so townie unfortunately.


Which was sheeped by pretty much everyone with basically no explanation.

Scum reads all heavily favoured towns (well aparently I don't fall into that category LOL)
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 12:50 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shitlist
Ec
Tt
Tw
Ff


This is fairly towny I suppose, but maybe pushing his own logic

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 08:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On June 08 2016 08:01 Jealous wrote:
On June 08 2016 07:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
i would kill BTDT still, yeah. That post where he game QT a pass for being active but then scumread jealous without mentioning his activity is still in my mind

But how would that make sense for a scum strategy?

The only plot that would make sense to me is that he knew QT would be lynched (should verify timestamp on this post vs. vote count at the time?), which is good for scum, so he wanted to bring me down once QT flipped town because I'd be seen as the major instigator of the movement, which is good for scum because I am town.

This actually makes sense, now that I think about it. However, it depends on the timestamp. I can't check it right now and I'll be home in a few hours but if someone can do that now it would give more credit to FF's theory, imo.

You are thinking about this wrong. Scum dont enact some plot. They just try to come up with stuff to say that looks as townie as possible. Most of the time they try to not lynch their scumteam.

Often scum will townread someone who is up for lynch, because they know that person is town, and their objective to look as townie as possible is compelling them to point that out.


Otherwise I don't find much in his filter. I think these are the posts with the most content, and I don't really see what he's pushing for here. A lot of blank reads with no justification.


He took the time to dig up these posts and post this before changing his vote from Scott to Kush.

What do you guys make of that? (assuming it's not just me and Jealous here atm)
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 08 2016 22:47 GMT
#1446
On June 09 2016 07:37 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 07:36 Tictock wrote:
On June 09 2016 07:32 Jealous wrote:
On June 09 2016 07:29 Tictock wrote:
Yea we should be lynching Kush here guys. I'm not feeling any of these other lynches.

I will have to berate some people if Emp gets lynched and flips town.

It strikes me as interesting that on both days you were the third to vote for the current ban leader. Jumping on the bandwagon?


Hey as long as the wagon has the proper furnishings. This one is feeling much more comfy than QT's so I have no inklings of hopping off it like I did his.

These lynches are pretty different tbh.

If they both flip town will you feel the same way?


Yea, QT getting lynched i feel kinda bad for kus I had the sense that the lynch was bad and didn't do much about it till too late.

Kush is a good enough player that he should be making some effort here. I wont feel bad if he flips town.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 08 2016 22:51 GMT
#1448
Well w/e it seems like it's just the 3 of us here anyways, so not much else to do but wait it out.

I don't get where Jealous is coming from at all anymore. Given his last reads post an hour or so ago he seemed to be far more suspect of Kush than Emp, and he claimed that he was fairly certain I was town. Yet none of his actions or posts since that reflect those views. If kush flips scum I think Jealous should be the lynch tomorrow.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 08 2016 22:52 GMT
#1449
On June 09 2016 07:49 Jealous wrote:
How about the Skynx bandwagon that seemingly dissipated overnight?


Reads change.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 08 2016 22:57 GMT
#1451
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 08 2016 23:05 GMT
#1458
Ugh, well shit.

No action on blkcoffee either?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 09 2016 03:32 GMT
#1484
For Science people!
On June 09 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:
Ok, wasn't sure how I wanted to do this... I'm gunna try and just keep it simple.

I've prepared a few questions for everyone, they might be a little strange but if you could humor me. This is for science.

1) Emperorchampion - How difficult is this game for you? Is it easier or harder than you expected? Is there anybody who has a style of play that you admire or enjoy?
2) Skynx - Assume you got Vig shot right this moment (eliminated from the game)... What is the first thing you would do? Both Kush and me flip scum, how might you start looking for the last scum?
4) Scott31337 - What do you like to do to develop reads? What is your opinion of the current atmosphere of the game? Disregarding low activity, who is your weakest read?
5) blkcoffee -
6) Jealous - How is the return to TL Mafia going? You suggested that you enjoy having a role with some power, have you ever played in a game where everyone has some role/ability? If not, does it sound appealing?
1) beentheredonethat - How do you feel about your play so far this game compared to past games? How confident do you feel in your reads right now?
3) MooooooosyDooooosy - Scale of 1-5 how much fun are you having in this game? Does it compare to any recent games? Assume you are able to make some very game influential move before you die, would you prefer to clinch the game near LyLo or secure an early lead?
4) nnn_thekushmountians - What has gone right this game? What has gone wrong? How should we learn from our mistakes rather than make them again?
5) Superbia - Where do you get your drive from? What gets you motivated? What needs cultivating right now?
6) FecalFeast - What do you cling to? What right now is most disturbing or upsetting to you? Is it important to keep our first impressions or should we always be letting the waves of information influence us?

This took a surprisingly long time... Was hoping to have it finished last night, but I was too tired after GSL.


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Science!
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 09 2016 20:53 GMT
#1564
On June 10 2016 04:57 Superbia wrote:
W/e I'll just die in the night and tomorrow will be a disaster bc TT is probably mafia.


Why am I mafia now?

I mean it's nice to know I'm not getting killed tonight but I'm wondering why you now think this.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 09 2016 23:19 GMT
#1573
On June 10 2016 06:17 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 05:53 Tictock wrote:
On June 10 2016 04:57 Superbia wrote:
W/e I'll just die in the night and tomorrow will be a disaster bc TT is probably mafia.


Why am I mafia now?

I mean it's nice to know I'm not getting killed tonight but I'm wondering why you now think this.

Tictock what do you think of this reveal PR role initiative?


It's not a terrible idea, we could use the extra info to help slim down the lynch pool. I'm not terribly keen on telling blues when to claim but doing so today is not bad.

I'd leave it up to the blues themselves to do what they feel is best. Keep in mind that we are potentially nearing endgame, does your role serve much purpose in the last day or two of play or can you provide town with info that may help us out.

Fake claims could be nasty though if we don't have the lynchs left to properly sort them out.

So yea, blues claiming is a bit of a double edged sword but it might be a risk town needs to take to turn this game around.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 09 2016 23:25 GMT
#1574
Good to know my read on Blkcoffee was solid even with only 5 posts to go off of. Glad he wasn't a role.

So this puts us in 5/3 which means if we mislynch today the game is over. 4/3 going into Night phase, 3/3 next day (assuming no saves, which is super unlikely). Since we can't no lynch... this is gunna be rough.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 09 2016 23:30 GMT
#1575
I feel like voting Superbia. He's suddenly scumreading me off the Kush flip which was his main scumread all game. The read flipping like that when a couple other people brought up doubts after EoD feels opportunistic.

I'm also just honestly not sure who is mafia anymore, it's time to reevaluate everyone.

##Vote: Superbia
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 09 2016 23:35 GMT
#1576
I think Jealous is town now though. His attempt at shennanies threw me a little, but he was active and engaging me around EoD. Also the concern over blues claiming feels genuine.
I can take that responsibility.
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