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beentheredonethat
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On June 10 2016 17:29 Jealous wrote: I'm starting to think that I'm wholly retarded, because I don't follow your logic either. Can you explain it in greater detail, more inductive reasoning steps in between? Three possible scenarios. a) Moosy is cop, I am doc. b) Moosy is scum fakeclaiming, I am doc c) Moosy is cop, I am scum. Superbia says that a) is not possible, so it's b) or c). Since I know that I am the doctor, I say it's b) and we should lynch Moosydoosy. He will of course say the opposite. If Superbia is correct in his die simulation, we have scenario B. This means that both Moosy and me are dead, only the order is relevant. If I get lynched as Doc, Moosy will be lynched next day or shot by the potential vig next night. If Moosy gets lynched as scum, I will be shot at night by scum since I am the doc. Worst situation though is if Superbia is wrong, situtation a is possible, and situation a is given. Then it's a lose-lose-situation: it's town-doc vs. town-cop. If Moosy gets lynched as cop, I will be lynched as doc. If I get lynched as doc, Moosy will be killed as cop. Either way, situation a) would suck so I absolutely hope Superbia is right. Because if Superbia is right, then Moosy has just outed himself as scum and we lose Doctor at night vs. the first scummer. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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You guys are currently on the verge of losing this game because Moosy made a ballsy move and made the doctor claim. It's now up to you to believe me and actually see through what Moosy is doing - or follow his plan and tunnel me into oblivion, which is what Superbia is currently doing. Superbia, you're math can be correct, granted - but all you interpret into your math is that I am not the doc. Please take a step back from the thread, have a deep look at MoosyDoosy, the value he added to the town on D1 (which is none), the surprising 180 he pulled on D2 which even made me townread him, and then the claim on D3. Also keep in mind that the host did not answer anything about the setup yet, so the possibility of a framer/roleblock/?? vs. cop/doc setup should not be dismissed anytime soon. Finalizing my thoughts, I think it's time to ##vote MoosyDoosy. I'm pretty sure he's scum fakeclaiming a power role. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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I am paranoid enough by now to see a MoosyDoosy/Superbia scum team. Given superbias style of high quantity, low volume posts, I think that makes perfect sense. | ||
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On June 10 2016 23:19 Skynx wrote: I'm not trying to stir shit up or anything but His check on btdt is kinda out of nowhere imo cuz he spent entire d2 pressuring me and emp. If this is a situation where Moosy just fires shots on town btdt, he panics and screws up cc and Moosy defends his claim by just bringing up his Jealous tr on d2 we are so so fucked I mean only reason Moosy is not drawing suspicion is because btdt screwed up. This is simply wrong. I did not screw up. I am telling the truth and Moosy is scum fakeclaiming town into oblivion. Well played. He took a gamble that paid off big time. Superbia is most likely scum with him. He talked so much about roles so far that I assume he detected the setup math not just now but already earlier. Being a veteran, he used his advantage for his scum play. It is really bad that the host did not clear up the situation. And that the setup allowed this situation to happen. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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GG MoosyDoosy, Superbia, and whoever is your third. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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I hold Jealous' claim for genuine. More points against Superbia: he was townread almost all the time. How is mafia not killing this guy? Points against Moosy: why exactly did he check me? He townread me before. So why say I am scum? Because my activity Level is low enough to make me an easy target. Also note that there are a lot of people that seem just fine doing - nothing. Those people are to blame once I flip. Again, I am the doctor. Moosy is not the cop. In a setup based on dies, Two protective roles are possible. Especially since this game's hosting has been rather slow and lackluster, no offense. | ||
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I am actually not the doctor. I am the veteran. What did I think when Moosy said "hey, redchecked you": 1. "If he is genuine, there must be a framer." 2. "If he is not genuine, there will be a real cop hidden somewhere. Scum knows the setup, right?" 2. What made me claim doctor? 1. My role. I am the veteran. I can take two KPs. It would be great if scum simply shot me because it would waste one KP of them. 2. Assuming that I'd either eat the roleblock OR the roleblock plus the KP, I thought I'd give another night to the real cop to handle the situation. 3. Doctor cannot heal himself. So a dedicated roleblock to kill him would not be necessary, which made me think that scum would actually waste a KP on me without actually killing a townie and instead roleblock somewhere else. Since scum cannot know who the last blue role (because the last blue role, mind you, has not claimed!) is, scum would've guessed a roleblock somewhere - and I'd have eaten the KP. Moosy chose me as his fakeclaim target for various reasons. a) I am a low activity player and thus easy to be set up for a mislynch. b) I pressured him as scum for two consecutive days. Why did I wait so long to clarify my situation? I waited for Jealous' reaction. Remember this: Jealous was almost universally townread. He made his huge list post about who read who how at which point in time. What is easier than making up a green check on a guy who appears towny to the most anyways? That is why MoosyDoosy claims to have checked Jealous - because it is the safest call to do it. However, the almost universally townread Jealous was never a target of the scum team. Why not? Scum started D1 by killing Tumblewood, a player who was universally townread. D2 cycle ended with scum killing FecalFeast, a player that was under literally 0 pressure of being scum. But I ask ALL OF YOU: Was FecalFeast more town than Jealous? No! He was not! So the only reason that Jealous is alive is actually that he is scum with MoosyDoosy. That's is the world we live in. MoosyDoosy and Jealous are 2/3 scum players. The third one hides most likely between Superbia, Scott, Emperor, Skynx, and Tictock. The fact that Superbia was the only active person besides Moosy over the last 24-ish hours makes me believe that he is actually town, tunneling me a lot. Superbia, reconsider your read on me. You're proud of your seemingly 95% correct reads from day 1? Show me one, only one freaking game on this site where this happened. You will wake up once I hang, and you'll say something post-game like "oh damn I was so wrong, if only I had not lynched beentheredonethat". Yes. It might've been a bad play in hindsight. But I beg you guys to remember: this is a newbie game. Mistakes happen. Please - ##vote MoosyDoosy. Safe town, safe the game. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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Shame it's over in 1 hour though. I'd say scott is the blue that hasn't claimed since he's not here. Maybe Skynx, too. | ||
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On June 12 2016 07:41 MoosyDoosy wrote: i rlly hope my check was real. lol. wp to the scumteam  | ||
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On June 12 2016 07:56 Superbia wrote: Btw btdt. Next time something like this happens, you want to do that claim change right after. That way it looks more natural. x: Wow someone's riding a high horse there. Quality sportsmanship. | ||
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