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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 04 2016 16:29 GMT
#633
On June 05 2016 01:18 blkcoffee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2016 01:08 Skynx wrote:
I'm back early
On June 05 2016 00:34 blkcoffee wrote:
I read Jesus and at as two townies refusing to back down. I don't see much more to it .

Skynx and tumblewood both seem convinced that there has to be mafia in those two. Although skynx is sure it's qt.

I'm not convinced by either of the arguments and the case on qt by skynx seems to paint every qt action as scummy which I don't think is the correct approach.


If you read carefully, I've just called his posting pattern useless. He's not making any sensible pushes and his reads don't have any basis. Be he mafia or no, keeping him around does not benefit town.


So what exactly is your read. If he flipped what would he be in your opinion?

Depends on what happens next 24h before lynch. If he flips scum we can make cases on other peoples reaction on him. If he flips town what a shame we will have less spam for rest of the game.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 04 2016 17:11 GMT
#646
On June 05 2016 01:51 blkcoffee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2016 01:29 Skynx wrote:
On June 05 2016 01:18 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 05 2016 01:08 Skynx wrote:
I'm back early
On June 05 2016 00:34 blkcoffee wrote:
I read Jesus and at as two townies refusing to back down. I don't see much more to it .

Skynx and tumblewood both seem convinced that there has to be mafia in those two. Although skynx is sure it's qt.

I'm not convinced by either of the arguments and the case on qt by skynx seems to paint every qt action as scummy which I don't think is the correct approach.


If you read carefully, I've just called his posting pattern useless. He's not making any sensible pushes and his reads don't have any basis. Be he mafia or no, keeping him around does not benefit town.


So what exactly is your read. If he flipped what would he be in your opinion?

Depends on what happens next 24h before lynch. If he flips scum we can make cases on other peoples reaction on him. If he flips town what a shame we will have less spam for rest of the game.


Sorry I wasn't clear. Right now what is your read on qt? I'm not really too bothered on your read of him after he flips.

I'm not sure what you're trying to do here. He is scum from the way I read his posts.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 04 2016 17:12 GMT
#648
Or he is a very very bad town.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 04 2016 17:50 GMT
#658
On June 05 2016 02:35 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2016 02:30 Jealous wrote:
On June 05 2016 02:25 Tumblewood wrote:
I don't like this "detriment to the town even if he is a townie" sentiment... what is that supposed to mean? If he is a townie, he is not detrimental to the town unless he causes us to lynch him. What is he doing? "Sowing seeds of confusion?" He's not undermining anyone, confusing anyone, he's just playing the game. Either call him scum or call him town, but don't say you'd lynch him if he's town because that's totally backwards.

Let me be clear, I have the greatest suspicion of him being scum of anyone else in the thread so far, that is the main reason for my vote. However, my argument is that even if he flips town, then he was behaving in a way that is counterproductive to the town. Namely, he makes unsubstantiated reads, fake votes in this thread, and dodges questions. Thus, I''m doubly willing to take the chance on a Day 1 read and voted for him. Seems others feel the same way.

that's not counterproductive to the town though
oh my... have you heard of the player "Palmar"? most people regard him as one of the best players on the site, and he almost never substantiates his reads or answers questions on D1. This is his filter from the last game he played.
One can be helpful to town without backing up what one says.

Kinda off-topic but I was 95% sure Palmar was scum after Koshi was clipped.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 04 2016 18:23 GMT
#672
@tumble what makes you wanna plynch sqrt instead of fecalfeast who is yet to post a word since daypost.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 05 2016 13:22 GMT
#742
On June 05 2016 06:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm tired of phone reading with my girlfriend here so I'll just post what i have so far

Super probably didn't roll scum for the 10th time.
Jealous is making posts i don't really want read but is being towny
Quicktwist is being trolly but having moments of clarity so i can't be too upset with him

I think skynx is scummy because he is hardly commenting on anything relevant when he posts while also not chatting it up or anything. Posting for the sake of posting

I'm only on page 27 so grains of salt all around

I'm going for slurpees anyone want anything?

You break my heart man, but i dunno what to do now. Shall i chat shit or just post very serious stuff...
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 05 2016 13:57 GMT
#755
On June 05 2016 22:31 Superbia wrote:
Skynx can you give me some updates regarding your thoughts atm?

Tumble, emperor, you are townies
For thoughts on QT read #604
Not much of read on most others but I don't feel like lynching kush+bddt for some time
These are all just feels

+ I'm suspicious of one specific person but I'll keep that to myself for now.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 05 2016 14:00 GMT
#757
On June 05 2016 22:57 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 10:24 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:44 Skynx wrote:
So, Incognito guide tells me town likes clarity and mafia likes contentless posts.
Jealous sounds towny to me. QT also keep things clean.
Super n moosy are kinda chatting shit so I assume we can read more as game progresses.
Super is most scummy so far.


IDK what you mean by keeps things clean. I'm a messy person actually so I don't know where this is coming from.


No response from them on this.

I adressed that pretty early on
On June 04 2016 09:37 Skynx wrote:
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On June 04 2016 09:32 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:29 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:21 Skynx wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:11 Superbia wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:01 Skynx wrote:
@Super I missed the part where QT townread 4 ppl as I was the 5th to post after daypost.


? But you commented on all my posts which were mostly after daypost, no?

What? Those were after my first post of the day not sure what you're on about.
My point was him making 4 reads is impossible cuz im the 5th poster and he's one out of 4 others. I somehow missed Tumble but yeah i dont think they are serious.


Ah ok so you didn't see exactly 4 down reads. But youbsaw his 3 townreads.
Less exciting now.


Typing on a phone is difficult apparently.

So when you say that quicks townreads aren't serious. Would you consider that cluttering the thread or being clear?

Yeah i changed my mind now. QT and Superbia was just spamming and me tunnel visioning one of them didn't help. Newbie mistake.
They both sound scummy.

"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 05 2016 14:19 GMT
#760
They are all pure feels.
Your posts in last 2 pages changed my opinion for now. You were just trying to stir shit up at the beginning which i didnt like thats why i scumread you first.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 05 2016 14:19 GMT
#761
Do your 7 reads in this page have any basis?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 05 2016 14:19 GMT
#762
Fuck, the previous page then
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 05 2016 14:22 GMT
#764
I'm off to football for couple of hours btw.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 05 2016 18:46 GMT
#804
On June 06 2016 03:22 Tictock wrote:
Skynx was brought up and I had some misgivings regarding his opening (was going to include him in my post yesturday but ran out of time).

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 08:44 Skynx wrote:
So, Incognito guide tells me town likes clarity and mafia likes contentless posts.
Jealous sounds towny to me. QT also keep things clean.
Super n moosy are kinda chatting shit so I assume we can read more as game progresses.
Super is most scummy so far.


I'm really not a fan of this opening because he's useing a one line rule to throw out very unfounded reads. There is also no indication that he is actually trying to apply the rule he's using here. "Town likes clarity" into "sounds towny" or "keeps things clean".

I really have a hard time understanding why Super would have been the most scummy based on the criteria of contentless posts as well.

This also bugged me
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 08:47 Skynx wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:45 Superbia wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:44 Skynx wrote:
So, Incognito guide tells me town likes clarity and mafia likes contentless posts.
Jealous sounds towny to me. QT also keep things clean.
Super n moosy are kinda chatting shit so I assume we can read more as game progresses.
Super is most scummy so far.


Do you think quicky (QT) is town?

He doesn't sound scummy (yet)


Really odd dodgy answer after he very clearly gave QT a townread in his open (or at least a lean).

I also find it pretty interesting how he refines his read of QT but his read on Super remains static.
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 09:37 Skynx wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:32 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:29 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:21 Skynx wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:11 Superbia wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:01 Skynx wrote:
@Super I missed the part where QT townread 4 ppl as I was the 5th to post after daypost.


? But you commented on all my posts which were mostly after daypost, no?

What? Those were after my first post of the day not sure what you're on about.
My point was him making 4 reads is impossible cuz im the 5th poster and he's one out of 4 others. I somehow missed Tumble but yeah i dont think they are serious.


Ah ok so you didn't see exactly 4 down reads. But youbsaw his 3 townreads.
Less exciting now.


Typing on a phone is difficult apparently.

So when you say that quicks townreads aren't serious. Would you consider that cluttering the thread or being clear?

Yeah i changed my mind now. QT and Superbia was just spamming and me tunnel visioning one of them didn't help. Newbie mistake.
They both sound scummy.


Since I'm finding QT fairly scummy myself I tend to agree with Skynx's little case on him, but I'm also aware that a fair few of his points were just parroting what had been mentioned already.

I might be pretty fine with lynching Skynx today.




Disclaimer: This post was written over a much longer period of time than it should have. There has been a random bit of roommate drama over that past hour so I've been a little distracted while trying to put my thoughts together.

I'm gunna take a bit to resolve things then I'll do my little skim-over/catch-up and see how things feel as we are getting into EoD here.

Oh, I'm sorry. So you claim I was parroting what was mentioned already while I'm the only one to make a proper case?
I'm seeing too many of these "I feel QT is scummy" posts but only 3 votes on him so far.
Please make your intentions clear people, me doing so and getting scumread for it is quite amusing.

For reference:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 06 2016 00:15 Tumblewood wrote:
Having trouble justifying not voting QT, but not feeling good about voting him, either.


+ Show Spoiler +
On June 05 2016 22:30 Superbia wrote:
The jealous/quicky 'debate' was unlikely to be TvT. And I'm tempted to call quicky the mafia, because of jealous reads actually progressed during the 'debate'. But I'm not completely convinced yet.


+ Show Spoiler +
On June 05 2016 08:23 scott31337 wrote:
I read QuickTwist's filter since he's the one I'm tied in votes for, and it's 6 pages of one-liners and a couple of magic early townreads and a "Maybe scum" on Tictock. It's pretty bad - wouldn't mind voting for him


+ Show Spoiler +
On June 05 2016 19:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Strongly considering stfu lynching qt

"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 05 2016 21:21 GMT
#885
On June 05 2016 01:51 blkcoffee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2016 01:29 Skynx wrote:
On June 05 2016 01:18 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 05 2016 01:08 Skynx wrote:
I'm back early
On June 05 2016 00:34 blkcoffee wrote:
I read Jesus and at as two townies refusing to back down. I don't see much more to it .

Skynx and tumblewood both seem convinced that there has to be mafia in those two. Although skynx is sure it's qt.

I'm not convinced by either of the arguments and the case on qt by skynx seems to paint every qt action as scummy which I don't think is the correct approach.


If you read carefully, I've just called his posting pattern useless. He's not making any sensible pushes and his reads don't have any basis. Be he mafia or no, keeping him around does not benefit town.


So what exactly is your read. If he flipped what would he be in your opinion?

Depends on what happens next 24h before lynch. If he flips scum we can make cases on other peoples reaction on him. If he flips town what a shame we will have less spam for rest of the game.


Sorry I wasn't clear. Right now what is your read on qt? I'm not really too bothered on your read of him after he flips.

Where are you? Lots of Jealous vs QT in last couple of pages so you can make up your mind.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 05 2016 21:22 GMT
#886
Same for moosy, please give your reads.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 05 2016 21:40 GMT
#895
On June 06 2016 00:00 QuickTwist wrote:
OK I reread the thread, here are my reads:

Skynx and Ticktock are far and away my strongest scum reads and I really want one of them to get lynched today. I would be OK with a scott lynch.

The Town AF people are:

Emperorchampion
blkcoffee
beentheredonethat
Tumblewood

These are the people I will not be voting all game.

After posting this why would you vote Jealous? Scott was tied with you for a long time and you making an impossible case 5 hours befour lynch?
If you're really VT your moves dont make any sense.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 05 2016 22:57 GMT
#935
How is no one mentioning blackcoffee?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 06 2016 00:31 GMT
#964
Meh
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 06 2016 10:32 GMT
#1043
Just poppin in, I was lurking for strategic reasons.
That last min shennanie was nasty but doesn't necessarily make anyone scum for reasons btdt listed. Last few pages were interesting tho as I didn't think most people would list clear reads in night as they are powerless.

I'll be flying back home today so not much activity til day. Gn town.

On June 06 2016 07:57 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 07:57 Skynx wrote:
How is no one mentioning blackcoffee?


Oh hello there.

Hi TT!
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 07 2016 13:16 GMT
#1140
On June 07 2016 14:22 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 14:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 07 2016 14:15 Superbia wrote:
Anyway pressure on skynx is prob okay for now

why should i listen to you you're not my dad


Guy said he was afk for strategic reasons and has been defensive

Yo I was afk just before d1 ended. For the night I was travelling, not much I could do anyways.

Lemme catchup.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
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