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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 17 2016 18:33 GMT
#31
/In

I like most the player list and I actually have time now.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 17 2016 20:36 GMT
#38
It's ok I'm just lynching you anyway hts for mages
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 19 2016 22:34 GMT
#77
Hello I'd advise everyone but koshi to put a number in your post so that you can keep a better check on them. Koshis just awesome enough he doesn't need it.

I think we should policy lynch hts for two reasons.

We have a pretty good chance to hit scum and she is probably drinking whiskey which is her scum drink of choice.

Fight against the powers and game mod tyranny of hts by striking her down here!

[1]
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 19 2016 22:44 GMT
#82
Listen guys I just want to make Teamliquid great again.

A vote for hts is a vote for freedom.

I want to build a wall between this town and scum. So let's go.

[2]
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 19 2016 23:13 GMT
#88
I actually think,(badish reasoning time). Gumshoe is kind of likely to be town in this situation.

I'm not sure why dyh is, trying to,differentiate between gum and shape though as gum interaction felt more authentic, not saying shapes was bad, just gum was good on the punch imo.

But yeah

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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 19 2016 23:16 GMT
#89
On April 20 2016 08:11 DoYouHas wrote:
You expressed an opinion about Plynching and then joke-scummed Damdred. The opinion has nothing to do with Damdred, he just prompted it.

Gum asked Damd to give him a reason to think HTS was more likely to be scum for real. Then, after his question is blown off with another joke, goes back to a joking tone and vote. It is the shift from a pressuring tone back to a joking tone for no reason that caught my eye.

Long explanation for a small feeling, but whatever.


This is actually a towny type thought dyh Ca do the town pile for now.

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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 19 2016 23:41 GMT
#94
It's not easy ring posts if I am putting reads into the game or was entering the game.

While it's true that scum like wasting posts so they do not have to post later in the phase I am probably doing half in the first then do 10 and saving 15 near eod. A post restrictive game doesn't have to be a dead game.

SL is obviously null

Town on gumshoe and on dyh (tentative on both for halfway meh reasons)

LS is sort of in the bottom half of null bordering on a scum lean. He entered the game bringing nothing new but rehashed something someone else said and making it look worse than it was. He could be scum.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 20 2016 20:31 GMT
#160
My phone bit the dust so I'm using farahs phone until I can go to the store and get one tommorow. But thankfully I'll still make all deadlines.

TT lynch list is pretty bad it's pretty Mich every low hanging fruit in the game at this juncture. Is scum inside it I'm not sure at this point. But it bothers me a small bit.

Koshis also is becoming more towny as he posts more. I would probably lynch any one who wants to kill him or throw suspicion on him. His push on ff wasn't bad and actually seemed logically founded. His push on hts is 100% better.

HTS is the most likely scum in the thread atm, tells koshi that if he's town but continuously talks to him like he's town and doesn't seem really to consider he's scum. And to a small degree back tracks everywhere while over explaining every little detail. It just reeks to me.

I think I'm wrong on ls and he can be town and shouldn't be lynched today.

TT I am torn on, his tone sounds towny and his approach is ok. But his lynch list is so bad and he ignores or downplays things. My gut says just activity wise he has to be town from how he's played his last few scum games.

Yeah kinda think hts is best lynch, which isn't a bad thing. I think,she's leaving her options open on ff incase a wagon builds and she can just jump on super noncommittal one that I think,about it to.

I like an hts lynch more and more
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 20 2016 21:04 GMT
#167
TT why do you ignore everything posted on hts which isn't bad even if it's in early stages, only look at tumble to scum read but ignore ff who you were unhappy with his answer to you but didn't put him in your lynch list when he semi dodged you?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 20 2016 21:24 GMT
#171
On April 21 2016 06:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
Damdred, why do you think LS is town? You said "I think I'm wrong and he can be town" but no reasoning. You also didn't comment on me, though you said koshi's pressure was(is?) logically founded.




I'm also inclined to agree with Malcolm X and Damdred about HTS. The fact that she's not posted much else isn't helping since it's getting close to bedtime in the UK which means unless she comes back soon we may not hear from her until closer to deadline.




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On April 21 2016 05:55 Tictock wrote:
On April 21 2016 05:14 Fidei86 wrote:
2/40

@TT do you 'kind of' agree with it or do you actually agree wh it. My opening wasn't long and FF's point wasn't complicated. Not sure I see much middle ground. It seems kind of a lame agreement-but-not-really from you. But I shall read the rest of your posts / the game before deciding for sure.

I got to p7 before my swim. But all I really noticed was LS was making points. So I should re-read from the start. Which I will.


I kind-of agree with it in the sense that his point tracks, but a weak open doesn't necessarily make you mafia.




I'm not sure I'll have much time tonight for this so I think I'm going to place my vote on Tumble for now.

His opening consisted of quoting and responding to 3 posts, but really had no content to it. Just feels like a "look at me talking about stuff" kinda post.
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On April 20 2016 10:02 Tumblewood wrote:
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On April 20 2016 07:30 Koshi wrote:
My vote will be on the person who I think contributed the least and will be the hardest to read town in future days.

I've been considering trying a meta like this too. Think I'm going to join you this game.
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On April 20 2016 07:39 Shapelog wrote:
On April 20 2016 07:34 Damdred wrote:
Hello I'd advise everyone but koshi to put a number in your post so that you can keep a better check on them. Koshis just awesome enough he doesn't need it.

I think we should policy lynch hts for two reasons.

We have a pretty good chance to hit scum and she is probably drinking whiskey which is her scum drink of choice.

Fight against the powers and game mod tyranny of hts by striking her down here!

[1]

Lol Damdred.

I personally hate Plynchs in general tbh. Prob. because I like content and not luck in lynching someone lol (even though I rarely make it easy for people to read me as town via content )

Also yes, was bout to do this.

[3][3/5 for off the bat]

Why do you take this opportunity to talk about plynches
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On April 20 2016 09:43 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 20 2016 09:32 Tictock wrote:
Oh cool, this started already.

I'll check in later when there is stuff to read.

kinda dislike this post because he blatantly doesn't want to stir up discussion.

I give this post a 1 out of 1. There wasn't much to make out of this, but you made all you could. Well done.

Bam look at this efficiency I do in one post what you do in three
Also was that gumshoe vote not a joke


His push on shape about plynches doesn't really make much sense. I just don't get why Shape saying he dislikes policy lynches is so important to Tumble, feels more like he is making something out of nothing.
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On April 20 2016 14:38 Tumblewood wrote:
Shape, why did you use Damdred's obvious joke as an opportunity to discuss plynches? I know that he mentioned them, but your post was a non sequitur still. Please explain.

On April 20 2016 23:57 Tumblewood wrote:
Shape is dangerously close to a "disappointing answers" scumread.
HtS is throwing me off because he's (she's?) scumreading me and LS and those are the only two people I'm thinking are town so far. The arguments feel a bit stretched but so is everything at this stage. Null for now but will become a scumread if this continues.



He says:
me [Tumblewood] and LS and those are the only two people I'm thinking are town so far.

With pretty weak reasoning for the LS townread...

His scumreads are weak.
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Shape- for not giving better answers to his Plynch questions?
HtS - kus she is scumreading his townreads (himself and LS)
Myself- Kus my first post said I would come back to the game later.


It also doesn't seem like he's reading that game too closely. His read on me is based on my first post but doesn't seem to have noticed I've made more posts than that.

Also this series of posts doesn't seem like he's reading very closly/not paying attn.
On April 20 2016 11:02 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 20 2016 10:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Are you being serious right now SL?

3

speaking on behalf of SL
no

On April 21 2016 02:37 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 21 2016 01:48 Koshi wrote:
Pure on guts I am inclined to believe LS over HTS. Rereading HTS her posts I somehow can see it coming from scum because it is pretty emotionless and at points over explained.

I also have a feeling that she can't or won't commit on a read on FF and hides after a lot of words and "lazy meta can go both ways"


I am also thinking I like Tumble his last post. That actually sounds like townie reasoning.


So I actually am more inclined to lynch HtS over FF atm but I am going to stick on FF.


I could comment on more things I think but I don't want to be the driving force behind any conversation.

Like this post but mostly because it affirms what I was already saying. Why don't you want to be the driving force behind conversation?
On April 21 2016 02:11 GlowingBear wrote:
4
Ok since SL never answered me, I must say I don't like his posts

He has an opening calling Damdred "null" (the only thing I can understabd from bolding a name) because damdred was wasting posts. This is bad because:

1) It is impossible to have contentful posts in the beginning of the game
2) Calling someone null is saying something someone did is not alignment indicative, which means (I) he is wasting a post because he is saying nothing contributive, and (ii) he is trying to look contributive while saying nothing at all.

Wanting to lynch LS in the beginning of the game for wasting posts just reinforces this perspective

Also like this post, GB gets to be a townlean for now. Solid, original insight.

On April 21 2016 02:40 Tumblewood wrote:
Actually no
The post I think you're talking about-- are you sure that's serious? Could easily be a joke or to get a reaction.


##Vote: Tumblewood



-Bad opening
-pushing a weak reason for a scumread
-not reading closely


Sounds like my town game most of the time

9 i think


I currently have no opinion about you specifically I have a horrible associative read that involves you I'd rather not say yet.

And I can like someone's push without having a read on the person they are pushing at that point. It showed a towny mindset for koshi that is about far as ny opinion has went.

As for ls I had a scum read in one of my posts about his opening and him rehashing earlier posts.

Now I think he's been ok, he's been helpful and has tried to eliminate people based off meta. I'm not 100% it makes him lock town but it's enough to give him time see how he handles lynch without pressure on him and what he does with his time.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 20 2016 22:06 GMT
#189
On April 21 2016 07:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
LS you're using so many posts just trying to discredit what people say about you rather than trying to find scum.


And this is different than every other game how?

Anyway I'm going to hedge on hts now until tommorow.

It is bothering me sl is getting so little attention especially with his lack of try hard as s um lately.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2016 02:46 GMT
#213
For people who claim to read my filter and try to nitpick posts you guys sure do miss context even when posts I'm quoted are right there.

If you read ff post he's mainly talking about the amount of times is spending defending himself. How you guys can say damdred says its not scummy L's wasting posts is beyond me.

Also hts saying I'm still basically going to vote her is just dead wrong when I've clearly said I'm not going to lynch her today based on her largish post.

Why Hts and shape both attack MW over the same obvious misrepresentation I'm not sure and it could possibly be scum trying to discredit me. I'll de ide on that soon.

GB does bother me to not involved in early enough so far but still have a few hours left to de idea on him.

SL also made some sense so dangerous game
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2016 20:45 GMT
#270
I'm not sure why SL jeeps somehow avoiding people's lists, he's almost done the least amount in game and hasn't posted in forever.

Besides that I am curious how tumble has such a hard town read on gb in this situation?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2016 20:48 GMT
#272
Also the vote count looks exceptionally nasty.

I don't think ls or hts should,be up for lynch today. Especially ls hrs been one towny mother fuckers this game.

Koshis is never scum here I think so SL is voting someone who he thinks is probably town but doesn't care another scum point.

Tt and did really aren't pushing as hard as I thought.

Any way I think we need to get this down a bit more to a couple wagons to,get real,information instead of so spread out doing whatever we want.

And no ls no lynching hts today maybe tommorow, hoe she's randomly dropping names to see if people think they ate scum bothers me.

Anyway.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2016 20:55 GMT
#276
I do think dyh is a horrible lynch even if he is a low activity atm.

There are two posts I really like that I think shows a towny mindset.

The first is when he is paranoid of me because how I was getting behind koshi and dropped things when,he did.

And though pepple don't like when he's reexplaining his shape read I actually liked it. It showed a caring to not be misunderstood and I see town do that a million times mote than scum.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2016 20:59 GMT
#279
Actually I just read gb filter wouldn't lynch him either but could be a super hard pocket so maybe tumble can be town for paying attention. Or at least not the lynch.

Kinda leaves,me where
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2016 21:02 GMT
#280
Bah phone cuts off

Leaves Mr where the pool is super small in

Shape
Ff
SL
Gumshoe
Fid

I haven't filtered all of them yet but I have reasons not to lynch into,everyone else for today who h is probably bad. And if I remember Initial reaction was gum was town so I'm sticking with that for Damdred gut feels trademark pending.

Which leaves shape, ff, SL, fid

Looking at did but I think I prefer a SL or ff lynch.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2016 21:06 GMT
#282
Getting you to Delurk was worth it ff
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2016 21:16 GMT
#284
Idk I kinda just want to lynch sl

He thinks koshi is town and voted him anyway total throw away vote.

Hasn't really done anything.

His ls read is strange to a point so are a few others.

But I'm having a hard time finding someone I want to lynch in the actives
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2016 21:29 GMT
#287
LS is town reading people for ok reasons, isn't being lazy.

Is going out of his way to scum read people and somewhat pushing a lynch.

Scum ls is the most passive person in the world and waits and sheep's is lazy and usually doesn't have scum reads.

Ie he is town here. Plus all his posts feel ok
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