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Koshi
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Do I want to vote GB who had some interactions with SL but nothing that couldn't be Mafia on Mafia. Do I want to vote DYH who had some townie posts.... But SL completely 100% ignored... Do I want to vote DYH who LS claims is playing his mafia meta. Do I want to vote DYH who has the lowest filter.... | ||
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Koshi
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##vote DYH Well I don't know. Would GB and SL have those interactions? Pfff GB is yelling a lot. I just don't know........................................ Also where is gumshoe lol? | ||
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I don't have many posts left. I am currently on 84 in this game but I didn't have 45 in the first cycle. So I might just not post anymore till D3. Pretty sure I am confirmed now. Take that GB. | ||
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Top Scum 99%: Fidei ((just follow the case from TT and the Damdred nk + he made the most scummy posts. I might make a collection after night. The guy isn't reading the thread and made some really questionable observations.)) Stop hard trying like a madman scum: HTS very very very very maybe scum (I disagree with all the townreads on him, vote on sl doesn't matter, pressure from DYH+sl are his salvation): Shape very very very very very maybe scum: GB, gumshoe, TT (they are listed in the order I would currently lynch them. GB is first out of spite) ( the list should change with activity in future days) town puppy never lynch = thx: LS | ||
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Koshi
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Discuss the case from TT. That is a brilliant case and people don't comment on it. Explain to me how Fidei is not mafia? Based on the voting? TT just DEBUNKED THAT IN HIS CASE. Can't you fuckers read his case and see how Fidei was sitting on DYH while screaming that people should consolidate on KOSHI, GLOWINGBEAR OR GUMSHOE???? HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT MAKE SENSE??????????????????????? And then he gets cred for sitting on a mafia lynch? HOW THE FUCK??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Nothing in Fidei his entire filter showed him wanting to lynch DYH. Except 1 post 8 minutes before deadline. when people were considering DYH more and more. EVERY post Fidei made before that he tried to get people to vote people that WERE NOT DYH while he was voting DYH. TT quoted around 6 posts Go fucking read TT his case and come tell me why it is a bad case. And the next fucker that says Fidei is auto town because he voted for DYH gets my vote till the end of times. Holy shit stop being so fucking bad. tyvm for listening. | ||
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The guy makes a sick long case that involves 1) connecting Fidei to SL 2) shows an unnatural progression of Fidei his read on DYH 3) shows how even though Fidei is sitting on DYH, he is begging town to consolidate on gumshoe/koshi/GB so he can move his vote asap. 4) points out some other very suspicious posts like how he says HTS is not mafia with LS but offers 0 reasoning why. Basically showing how Fidei is not solving the game. And if I wanted I could add another 5 posts that Fidei made that were really bad and showed he was not reading the thread or solving the game. On top of that the Damdred kill HIGHLY points towards Fidei because Fidei was generally townread by everybody during D1 except Damdred who kept pushing him for mafia. And with Fidei being the last mafia it is pretty logical for them to go after Damdred to protect Fidei. | ||
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Koshi
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And don't make it how Fidei was sitting on mafia DYH while begging town to change his vote and therefore being confirmed town for reasons I DON'T FUCKING UNDERSTAND. GB could be mafia. I liked gumshoe his case but while reading DYH and GB their filter yesterday I kinda saw a lot of townie emotions in GB his posting. GB being a baddie and a liar is maybe just him being town and reckless. I somewhat forgot the strongest points of gumshoe his case but I don't know. Also GB and DYH pushing me and not trying to set-up a stronger ml yesterday would be odd. I don't think anybody but those 2 and HTS would ever vote me. HTS is way too hardtry to vote for. If she keeps it up I would only consider her in lylo. She doesn't make sense sometimes and makes really odd leaps in logic but I will just blame i that on her gender. (dis is joke) TT his case on Fidei was boss and I don't lynch bosses. I have not read 1 good reason why TT is mafia xcept LS his PoE. But that PoE removed people like Shape and Fidei based on voting and that is really bad to do. gumshoe was really townish before the lynch yesterday but he has the bad luck of looking like mafia the entire fucking game. So I am going to vote him before people that don't blatantly look like mafia. Shape better is a blue role. Cuz I can lynch that guy in a heartbeat. Fuck losing to him again after lynching 4 townies in a row. He is also softing blue 24/7 so if other people are blue this guy is gettting really high on my lynchlist. Just lucky that DYH wanted to lynch him and that he wanted to lynch sl. But lynching and sitting on mafia is pretty easy when you know who is mafia. Getting people to lynch mafia is harder. And that is something shape has not yet done. | ||
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Koshi
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His flow of thought shows beautifully and you can see how he is solving the game. You also can see he gets distracted from time to time giving his opinions on things and is not just focussing on 1 thing. He is just solving the game. Giving his opinion on a lot of things. If you read all his posts leading towards scumreading and making that case on Fidei you only need o activate 1 braincell to know he is town. Even if Fidei is not mafia it is 100% town making the case, and the build up to it. Brilliant stuff. Never ever fucking mafia unless mafia god. | ||
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Koshi
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So... hts, fidei, gb, shape and tt are left. So... We have probably at least 1 blue in there. So if we don't lynch the blue we can lynch 3/4 pretty good odds. | ||
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Koshi
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On April 23 2016 07:07 Fidei86 wrote: TT is scum, I think. This post is beyond Derp. I'm reading on a train with spotty reception so may not be able to post. If I die I strongly suggest you lynch TT. But if Dani doesn't die by day 3, it's probably her. On April 22 2016 09:34 Fidei86 wrote: Drunk James says its HTS / TT / Damdred. But this is definitely one of the weirdest games I've ever been in. If I'm vigi tonight I shoot LS though. Dude doesn't string a sentence together for four games in a row and is town. He posts a WOT tonight and nobody bats an eye. This will be my last post for a while because I need to make sure I don't go over 45 again and I like to post. But this is everything wrong with Fidei and his entire filter is filled with this. There is never any good reasoning ever in his filter on everything. Never is there I think x is town because y and y being an actually good reason. Or I think x is mafia because y and y being an actually good reason. It's all bad, unexplained stuff that I don't understand. Like how does he have those 3 names in his list but can't give a reason why HTS is mafia xcept "if she is alive in 3 days". While before all that he was townreading HTS or maybe slightly scumming her based on suspicion of others. Nothing original. Why is LS mafia because he made a WoT this game and didn't do so last games? Is this real life? Unless Fidei got the meta to be absolutely bad at the game we can give him a pass. But I don't think he is. Why is TT mafia for calling out SL there? I am sure TT asked him the same thing btw. I wonder if he answered that. On April 25 2016 05:51 Fidei86 wrote: Do we think Shape's voting exhonerates him? If he were scum, if he'd managed to be on a wagon on scum that then got overtaken by a town wagon, I don't see why you'd then flip onto a town wagon at the last moment. That's just way too much weird play to make sense from a scum perspective. Unfortunately, that also means that DYH's play makes a lot more sense. So I'm at Town: LS, Shape, TW Confused about their voting right now: Koshi, gumshoe No particular reason to lynch: DYH Not scum as not pushing me???: HTS, TT ??? GB This is how Fidei plays the game. He literally cannot produce a single believable reason to call somebody mafia ever so he does these really odd list posts during the entire game that make 0 sense. On April 23 2016 23:33 Fidei86 wrote: Having read back through the filters, I've sort of talked myself back round on HTS and TT. There is a lot lot of suspicious stuff in their filters, but nobody else seems to see the link / soft defending I see, and I may just be paranoid. Both have had some pretty good analysis since the D2 flip. And as I said before, SL went after HTS pretty hard in circumstances where it was more than possible she might actually become a target. As I said before, if Dani makes it to D4ish, I'm going to get the mega tin foil out. But for now, I'm okay with her as town. TW is town obviously. I'm pretty sold on LS as town, actually. The issue I have now is that all of Shape, GB and DYH have been particularly underwhelming. I'd put shape at the higher end of that, but DYH and GB have been borderline useless. I think looking carefully at their filters, which I'll do now, is likely to yield dividends in terms of solving this game. (Yes, I accept I just flipped on my two top scum reads, was wrong on Damdred and SL and have also been very questionable this game. But I know I'm town, so there). I don't know how the timestamps are but I am sure he isn't solving the game. Same crap over and over. On April 24 2016 00:44 Fidei86 wrote: Just had a thought: all the people TRing me for garbage meta reasons (DYH, Dani, TT) are probably all town. Because I think my play in this game has been pretty damn awful so far, and any of them could have easily pushed me as a mislynch. On April 24 2016 00:41 Fidei86 wrote: I want to believe GB is town, but he has been so low energy, and his list post was so nit-picky, I cannot rule him out. The main thing I want from GB is to get over losing Damdred, his only strong read, and tell the rest of us what he's thinking. Just look at all the reasoning. It follows no story. It just random things. He does not solve the game. He just finds something random to say and says it. Like... If he finds something about anybody he says it. But he is not trying to find the mafia. He doesn't try to make his pool smaller. He just does things. Impressive communication between scumpartners. On April 24 2016 00:33 Fidei86 wrote: @DYH what's going on in your personal life bro? Busy at work? New girlfriend with legs that go all the way down? On April 25 2016 05:33 Fidei86 wrote: It's not me. If gumshoe isn't mafia, it's not for his massive WoTs late on. Whoever his scum buddy is could very easily have just gee'd him up to post stuff. Read his post and see what you think. On April 25 2016 06:48 Fidei86 wrote: Hey Koshi. These are Damdred's reads before he died. GB is 'probably town'. If you're sanctifying Damdred's reads, and SL flipped red and Tumble claimed green, shouldn't you be voting me? Like... What is this guy doing? That question just shows he is just not solving the game and just being in the thread. I voted him, I commented on him being mafia based on Damdred his posts. And then he asks me that... Pff. Poor play. Get him out of here. His filter is without doubt the weakest of all. Maybe Shape his filter is worse but like I said. I hope he is blue. | ||
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Koshi
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On April 26 2016 07:37 Fidei86 wrote: Koshi I presume you are joking. Don't make me get out the sock-puppets to explain why I'm not mafia. The lynch today is TT, HTS or GB. Everyone should read all three filters, plus DYH and SL's filters, and decide which we go for. Ok really last post. Get rekt scum. If you want to survive. I suggest you pull out the sock puppets and start to explain why others are mafia. Something that you haven't done once in this entire game. Or explain to me why you are not mafia, but it better not be that you were sitting on mafia screaming to lynch everybody except the person you were sitting on. Because that my friend makes you mafia. It would have been better for you if you were not sitting on mafia tbh. Then at least you were wrong all the way. But being right when the flips happen after being wrong in every other post you made leading up to that buys you 0 credit. | ||
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Koshi
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And mafia needed to get some cred so sitting on buddy while yelling town should lynch somebody else is actually a really logical play for mafia to make. But w.e Let's say we ignore the fact you sat on mafia and yelled to lynch town. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE THIS GAME? You have the worst filter out of everybody. Show me somewhere you tried to actually remove people from your lynchlist by using actual ingame based reasoning and then sticked to it the next time you gave a list post. Show me that. And stop yelling "I lynched mafia so I am town" because I don't give a single fuck about it and I will get you lynched. | ||
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Koshi
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On April 26 2016 16:35 Fidei86 wrote: I wasn't "screaming to lynch others". I was saying that if people didn't move from the 3,2,2,2 formation we had, I would consolidate. Again, if you can't tell the difference between those two things, I cannot and will not waste my time explaining it to you. I haven't played great this game, but then look at TT and HTS - both have made tons of WOTs and haven't been right on a single fucking thing all game. Yes, but they both are logical in their filter. You see TT say 50 times he thinks you are mafia, it starts with "I think Fidei might be mafia" then "I think x,y might be mafia" then comes back to "I think Fidei is still mafia" etc etc into that case on you. There is progress and I like that in his filter. With you there is nothing like that. You just give random reads (that aren't really good) and then in the very next listpost you completely "forgot" every read you gave and seemingly start over again. And this is the case for your entire filter. You haven't given a single read on anybody this game full explained. aka You haven't helped town for a single read on anybody this game. | ||
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On April 26 2016 16:43 Fidei86 wrote: Sure Mafia need town cred now. I don't see why I as Mafia with DYH would have needed town cred, when we just could have easily mislynched any of you, gum and GB. I'm not going to defend my filter because I freely admit that I haven't played amazingly this game. I've struggled to form reads and most of my thoughts have been pretty random. But all I can say to that is that nobody apart from Tumble was really on SL, and nobody apart from LS (and then me and you) was on DYH. Long filter dive posts don't make you right. Gut reactions based on how the game developments don't make you wrong. Well just start being town and I can easily change my view on you. Just like gumshoe did. But looking at how your read progression goes on HTS during your entire filter and if I compare that on the read progression on you from TT his filter than there is no doubt in my mind you need to get lynched first. And sitting on mafia while screaming to lynch town does not buy you all the fucking cred in the world. Which you aggressively try to push into this thread as soon as HTS made that comment on you still possible being mafia after we lynched DYH. Which is basically the only thing you did since the lynch. That and give 3 names we should lynch into without any form of reasoning or your own opinion. Your read progression on HTS + Your read progression on DYH while still voting him is really suspicious. HTS you keep saying is town except when she is alive D3 or D4. That is your only argument since the beginning of time. But still you keep saying she is mafia in every listpost you make and you never try to figure out her alignment by conversation or try to put pressure on her based on her posts. I really hope you can do that starting from now. Read posts and make cases. Because I promise you. I will lynch you today if your play stays like this. | ||
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GB - Good emotions in his posts last day. This combined with the analysis he did in those posts makes him pretty townie for me. If town decides they want to lynch him over you I will make a post on why GB is town. Now I cba. TT - I start with saying he could be mafia. But even though he is a bit more less involved than I know he was in previous games as town, he is looking for mafia and he is helping town solve the game. He made a great case on you and if he is mafia, he did a really good job on that. HTS - She is playing a really really good game as either alignment. If a game was filled with only HTS type players mafia could be a national spectator sport. And due to this fact it is way more likely she is town because it is easier to play a great game as town. And that people have been "wrong" in this game is logical. The current flipped mafia were afk bitches. There was nothing to say about SL during D1. And DYH same shizzle. I think I actually voted DYH D1 and there were some people who defended him against my push. I don't know who that was. But it were 2 people. But it also felt genuine somehow because I did change my view on him. | ||
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I hated that townread HTS gave DYH based on the fact he made a perfect argument based on Shape his filter and then wrote an entire paragraph on what DYH did while DYH didn't do that at all. Fuck now I will actually have to read all those posts from HTS looking for mafia traits. On April 21 2016 22:53 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote DoYouHas reasoning is the read on Shape. I don't understand how that makes anybody scum. I don't understand how town DYH has Shape as his top scumread: On April 22 2016 00:36 Koshi wrote: The ceveat on Damdred is reasonable but it could also be that Damdred changed his view on HtS around the same time as I did. But the part he said about Shape has nothing to do with what you said he did: Where did you see DYH make an argument on Shape that had anything to do with alignment related posts? in my eyes mafia DYH looked for something to contribute and found himself writing down something completely NAI against Shape who just makes odd posts. Anyway, point out to me where DYH made the argument that Shape is not making enough alignment related posts. He said nothing about that. On April 22 2016 01:50 Koshi wrote: "not doing much" is fucking super easy read to make as mafia. You going to townread him for that HTS? On April 22 2016 01:53 Koshi wrote: Nope. Because mafia atm doesn't know what might happen. So there is no problem atm. Fucking disgusted atm by hts again defending somebody writing down so many things based on the fact this person said "X is not doing much". Like......... Which mafia has ever done less than make the super insightful read "X is not doing much" God fucking damn. Bonus content on the fact our vigi is a brilliant mind. Too bad a scum vigi is impossible so that his genius is also confirmed to come from town: On April 22 2016 04:43 Koshi wrote: 7. DoYouHas 9. GlowingBear 12. gumshoe These 3 people look fine to lynch. I think I want to keep HTS around. But I think LS is at least twice more townie than HTS. But I don't know if I want to lynch in them atm. On April 22 2016 05:15 Tumblewood wrote: I do not want to lynch any of those people except maybe DYH Gumshoe will probably make his alignment obvious, given time. GB is just town though. Agree on keeping HtS around because I don't want to lynch her if she is town. | ||
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1) To raise awareness that also HTS could be mafia. 2) Because she wrote 5 lines on why FF was null early in the game that made me puke. 3) Because she wrote this to defend DYH, which made 0 sense because that wasn't even anything DYH did: Koshi - read Shapelog's filter and tell me that DYH's conclusion on him isn't reasonable. He has ZERO concrete reads. Talking about himself doesn't make him scum but the argument that Shape isn't doing or saying anything alignment related with his posts is pretty spot on. I was hoping I'd have seen some clarification after I AFKed but not much in the way of that either. 4) Because I can | ||
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