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On April 25 2016 07:46 Fidei86 wrote: Okay so the town circle is:by LightningStrike, Fidei86, Koshi, Shapelog, Tumble LS never mafia here. Started lynch on DYH out of nowhere. I'm obviously not mafia here, for being second onto it. Koshi hammered. Not mafia. Shape not mafia for piling on, and also for the voting on D1. Tumble for the claim. So that means its between GB, HTS, TT, gumshoe. I think we got this boyz. Hts and tt are like 90 percent town, its def prudent to go through me and gb before any of them / : | ||
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On April 25 2016 07:51 Fidei86 wrote: Dude, and I say this as someone who cares, but STFU. Stop with the martyr thing. It is making this game needlessly hard. NEVER, I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HOLD ALL THESE CROSSES BUT THEY ARE MINE, MIIIIIIIIIINE. that said, the not so subtle context here is that if I was scum I'd be conceding right now XD so this does actually have a point : P besides me lamenting how I am consistently managing to look terrible throughout these phases. | ||
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gB is solidly in the town column for me after his case on Koshi. I just think you are wrong on GB, though I'm giving your and gum's points a harder look to see if I can justify my read against them. before I attacked gb all dyh had was this TW, GB, TT havent gotten to yet Now, why would he stick his neck out to save someone who there was no momentum on at the time (right after I made my case) and up till this pointhe conveniently hadn't read anything about but just so happens to have the same agenda as him(kill koshi)? also this post refrencing the ff lynch is eriely similar to that gb post I put up earlier There is something wrong here, either in my reads or in this wagon. Top scum is voting with top town on someone I considered nullish. gb for refrence This lunch is obviously not hitting mafia heres dyh's view on me for funsies Gumshoe is overplaying the jokes with Koshi and Damdred. Gum asked Damd to give him a reason to think HTS was more likely to be scum for real. Then, after his question is blown off with another joke, goes back to a joking tone and vote. It is the shift from a pressuring tone back to a joking tone for no reason that caught my eye. dyh has no reason to throw suspicuon onto me here for a bus, its not like I was that inactive (ala sl) or that BAD (ala onegu) heres gbs view on dyh for further funsies. Basically, from what I've read, I'm at this point: Damdred DYH Tumblewood gumshoe LightningStrike (top is green bot is red) DYH townread was because of that post that felt genuine. But it is a weak townread, I must say. After that, there was nothing memorable from him. HTS, since you're basing your reads mostly on VCA, why do you think there is mafia between me and DYH? Especially DYH who decided to vote Shapelog 15 minutes before EOD. He either knew a teammate would hammer FF or he simply is town. Because, if he is mafia, he is not saving his partner and he is not bussing for cred. For what reason he decided to vote someone else, then? Where is the Mafia motivation? You could say "to be town read like you're doing right now", and I would say it is possible. But is it most likely? I don't think so yeah..... heres all I could find on sl from dyh SL - I'm putting off making a decision on him. I don't have strong feelings either way and he promised more activity today. seems to bolster his agenda of keeping mates at arms length until he has to get involved / : nothing on dyh from sl that I could find. Seems like sl had a policy of reciprocity, gb attacked him a little so he attacked him back a little, dyh ignored him so he ignored him back. methinks this be gg / : | ||
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On April 23 2016 07:31 DoYouHas wrote: Huzzah! In retrospect, this is the saddest huzzah I ever did saw ) : | ||
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On April 25 2016 10:32 GlowingBear wrote: ROFL I was mad that people wagoned DYH but then he flipped godfather ROFL I'm so glad! Scum is getting rekt! Well, if there is a town detective, just check me if you guys think I'm Mafia. I don't know mang, vig plus dt would be pretty op XD also if your somehow actually town, you could be da miller D : | ||
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"If you guys suspect me, why don't you just check with that role you likely don't have" Kek. | ||
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On April 25 2016 11:06 GlowingBear wrote: -.- You reeeeally tbink there is no other blue role with a GF flipped? Vigis aren't that powerful. They are double edged. I bet there is another blue role + why would I do that as Mafia, gum? If there is really a detective, I'm signing my death sentence Jesus... Because if there is a dt your dead already XD so may as well stare it in the face. Also I'm not saying there isn't another blue, just that dt vig can be a bit broken as far as combos go. Vig doc or vet makes more sense, and I'm sure you know that : P | ||
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On April 25 2016 11:19 LightningStrike wrote: Tbh it wouldn't surprise me because there is a chance of a framer or roleblocker for last role for scum but I think it more likely roleblocker so ya Cop Vig would be fine balance wise with the gf and roleblocker as the scum power roles. True, but I know at least in the other game bieng played ATM gf is just a vanity item but yeah we should probs stop the blue talk / : | ||
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On April 25 2016 11:28 LightningStrike wrote: BTW I was checking Sicklucker and DYH's filters and I think that GB is likely town because idk why the whole scum team decided to bus themselves on GB lol. Koshi is cleared due VCA and his posting been townie I think.Shapelog is cleared due to how DYH was pushing him till Day 2 and his voting on SL into FF. Gum you just a confirmed bias atm but I think it's town on town in you vs GB. So mafia would be in HTS, James, and TT. But I townreading HTS mainly because she actually was pushing the game forward although she was wrong on my alignment till later but also Sicklucker wanted to lynch HTS with me for poor reasons EoD 1 before he swap to Koshi. James been trying to help get together EoD to settle on consolidaion and decided to help me form the wagon DYH which idk why mafia James would decided EoD to bus his teammate. So by PoE it would TT for me which would mean he would of rolled scum 3 times in a row vs me which would suck hard for him. I don't know man, dudes agenda lines up perfectly with dyh's, and gb lied twice ( about associating Koshi and me and about sheeping Damdred ) and they both remarked on how bad a lynch ff was at like the same time and gbs been town reading dyh all game / : Seems like a lot to just be bad luck townie But then again this is coming from me XD so who knows. I still probes wouldn't lynch anyone before gb, just too much on the guy from mah view. And that fucking " hey gumshoe you there? Lol just kidding bro" post, this is all happening right now because of that one fucking post. Ima kill him for it, it's gotta happen, there must be precedent. | ||
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On April 20 2016 18:22 Tictock wrote: I guess I should have expected a slow start in a post restrictive game. This feels kinda nitpicky and more a narrative you are projecting on what Gum did than what actually happened LS is a bit interesting, he's half joking but a bit too serious for the start of the game imo. He goes into defensive mode here pretty quick, and his stance on Gum does a 180 here. (He said his vote was weird before, but here he says scum!Gum prob wouldn't vote anyone this early) Though tbf Gum did make a WoT post between then, still kinda a sudden flop. LS also way overuses that pic of the guy smoking a blunt in tinfoil, which I only mention kus it kinda bugs me... even if it's a good tinfoil pic. Koshi and SL are both underwhelming to me atm, but meh. Shape has me slightly worried due to the way he's setting up a posting style for himself. Prob not a good way to explain it. I like Gum for the amount of content he's putting out and for having similar thoughts to my own. That's about all I got for the moment. Well at least all I feel like sharing atm. Even though he kinda doubled back on it later, this post makes me think tick is townie. Seems wierd to use a well argued/ordered post to go after your scum mate and his agenda like this. | ||
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On April 25 2016 12:04 GlowingBear wrote: Dude. I'll just vote you tomorrow because everything you say is convoluted. I can't bear reading your posts. I've never lied a single time. If you still can't understand that the read I had on Koshi wasn't associative, there's nothing I can do. Scums counter to saying they lied "bro, I didn't lie" Blood must have blood gb. Blood must have blood | ||
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Is false, as though gb and dyh were both pushing Koshi. They were voting for me. Also dyh town reading gb just as he came into actual danger (and not saying literally anything about him in the 120 hours preceding that moment) is pretty damning. Fedie is unlikely scum given his role in the lynch So it's tt or gb given what we know ( supplemented by other basic reads)and gb is the clear scummer between them. Also for people claiming gb plays this way as town, you don't have to tell me that, I've trd twice when everyone else wanted his head (and yes I was right to do so) but this time is pretty different. Lynch with fire plox. | ||
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On April 26 2016 08:31 Koshi wrote: I cannot believe how pissed off I would be in TT his shoes. The guy makes a sick long case that involves 1) connecting Fidei to SL 2) shows an unnatural progression of Fidei his read on DYH 3) shows how even though Fidei is sitting on DYH, he is begging town to consolidate on gumshoe/koshi/GB so he can move his vote asap. 4) points out some other very suspicious posts like how he says HTS is not mafia with LS but offers 0 reasoning why. Basically showing how Fidei is not solving the game. And if I wanted I could add another 5 posts that Fidei made that were really bad and showed he was not reading the thread or solving the game. On top of that the Damdred kill HIGHLY points towards Fidei because Fidei was generally townread by everybody during D1 except Damdred who kept pushing him for mafia. And with Fidei being the last mafia it is pretty logical for them to go after Damdred to protect Fidei. It's a bad case Koshi. 1) he does not connect sl to fedie, he makes a tinfoil post on how fedie subtlety implied that we should give lurkers a break. That's not scummy as it applied just as much to people who were town (according to you gb and I are town, we were both fairly inactive along with sl) tt admitted hîmself it was tinfoil"" also it's not like sl was a role locker or anything, outside of powers there's no reason to save a scum mate who won't save himself, you just go down with him. 2)up till 2 hours before the lynch, I was a lock, the situation evolved rapidly and dyh came off as very scummy through it all(his whatever I'm not gonna defend you, I just want to lynch Koshi post was particularly bad) fedie may very well have read into dyh's behaviour in those closing moments and didn't have time to properly explain himself. His vote on dyh in such a volatile sitatuiom is super duper townie and no amount of tinfoil and self importance should change that Koshi. 3) begging town to consolidate has nôthing to do with saving dyh, it has to do with that awful day 1 were we wound up lynching town with a nightmare spread. 4) solving the game is something lots of townies don't bother to do. Yesterday I was basically not playing' today everyone basically knows I'm town. That aside I think this comment is unfair, fedie has been trying' I don't know how you can say otherwise / : 5) I made this post purely because your bieng a dick Koshi, insults don't make your opinions strong, a wall of text does not inherently deserve reverence (trust me on that point) what makes a case strong is how well it survives discourse and counter points. You've definitely drawn my attention Koshi with your rage and disrespect, but you've made your case harder to make in doing so" Lastly, though my push vs gb looks like a shouting match, that has more to do with my flaws as a player then the actual solidity of the case. To Which so far the only counter point I've seen is "is does this look like scum on scum?" If it made you doubt them as a team and didn't result in any real consequences, then that is exactly what scum on scum looks like. Also I caught gb lying to make himself look better twice -_- and I have a strong aptitude for reading into gb in general. Tts case is in no way stronger then mine / : | ||
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On April 27 2016 00:49 GlowingBear wrote: HtS: 1) I'm voting gumshoe because I can't play with someone that misrepresents me so intensively. Those mistepresentations reeks Mafia to me, and if he is town at least I can play the game without being pissed off 2) Those are the people that are probably Mafia based on VCA solely. I don't base reads solely on VCA. I'm townreading TT for the content of his posts. He looks contributive. 3) gumshoe voted DYH when he was already hammered. Once your partner was hammered, staying outside the wagon is suspicious, so I can see Mafia joining the wagon after the hammer. 1) you don't get to vote people just because they piss you off, remember when you were certain I was mafia in vanilla and I had to swear on my life to get you to back off? Isn't it kinda super fucking hypocritical of you to straight up lynch someone just because you can't see their side of things and don't want to bother understanding them? Your never gonna actually be good at this game if you cantlearn to look at things without overwhelming bias. 2) is this the first actual read you've offered in like days XD 3) yeah I acknowledged how terrible I look purely based off the votes so far. To be honest, though I joke, that actually makes me super fucking townie as if I was scum I could have easily not extended myself like that. You can't dodge traps your not aware of gb / : | ||
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Then you accosted Koshi for not voting me even though I was the clear wagon, implying you thought we were scum together, denied it, got proven wrong and yet continued to deny it saying I was twisting your words -_- Your inability to see the validity of these points leads me to bilieve that you simply cannot do so, as that would effectively be a confession XD I have nothing against you gb, but I don't think I'm wrong here. | ||
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On April 27 2016 02:19 Fidei86 wrote: TT do you see any way that it is HTS or gumshoe? I literally cannot understand why you and HTS continue to hard TR each other despite both of you being implicated by the EOD2 VCA. Maybe Artanis included Masons and didn't put it in the opening post?? Hts is pretty try's are omega townie, could be scum but should def be a last resort lynch. I'm more likely then her, but I really wouldn't have fallen into as many shitty spots on the vote as I have as scum XD It's pretty clearly gb here guys / : | ||
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