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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 23 2016 22:27 GMT
#562
So what is the real reason you're voting Shape? Is that because he looks underwhelming or because of that bad meta?

Also, you said you're also voting Shape because people are pretty townie to you. So how am I "meh"? Why are you not willing to vote me? Isn't "meh" basically "underwhelming"?
Which means there are more underwhelming people in the game by your own standards. So why going against Shapelog, who actually posted a lot Day1?
By normal standards, I am kinda underwhelming this game based on my inactivity (and I'm inactive because I've been busy), DYH is also underwhelming. Why are you not talking about them? Why didn't you lynch SL who was pretty much underwhelming day1? Why did you pressured people asking them "why aren't you voting SL"?

Well imo Shape is underwhelming and explained the meta read on him. The reason I say he looks ok this game is because he has the vote on sicklucker in his back pocket.

But pure based on his posting I think he easily could be mafia.


I don't understand what the inconsistency is. I think Shape is not his townie self (and it has nothing to do with spamming and post restrictions), and I think it could indicate him being mafia in this game and just not being able to give a fuck. I don't know about this other game he is playing in but clearly he made a mistake signing up for this one or he cba to figure out this one.

I don't know what the fuck you are doing. But my guts say that you can be like this as town, and for shape it is less likely. That's why my vote was on him.


All that being said. I have not the will to push anything in this game. I am now officially observing while being ingame.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 23 2016 22:33 GMT
#563
Like... gumshoe looks so bad that it is just not normal.

D1: defends sl
D2: says mafia takes a huge risk killing damdred because he wasn't blue, so it must be the tw read. (which is 100% mafia agenda knowing that TW is town). And now basically gave up.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 23 2016 22:42 GMT
#565
On April 23 2016 06:22 Damdred wrote:
I had to run to the store so my post won't be posted maybe mafia won't kill me and I'll be able to post it when I'm home.

But ATM I have

Damdred
LS
Gumshoe
Ticktock
As my really pretty sure they are town

GB
Dyh
Koshi

As my probably town right now

Hts

Right now is a gut feel town.

I feel like tumble is really likely mafia with what I said.

Which leaves me in a world where SL, shape and james have two mafia in it from my perspective. Technically GB could drop here but idk I'm in his pocket a bit ATM with the hard town read earlier.

If I had to make a guess its James, SL and tumble. But i was still working through things

Let's say Damdred was really a high prior docsave target. Why was he killed? This post is why I don't really like killing gumshoe even though I think he should die.

Like.. Fidei or shape are the ones that look really bad. I can't see mafia taking the risk just for sl. He didn't have too much credit in this mafia team. So it was either to
1) Frame TW
2) protect a stronger mafia player (aka Fidei or Shape)





ohyeah. GB. That is also why I voted Shape I think. I already did this analysis once. It's when I said Fidei (=james?) looked bad and he went "wtf?"

If my vote was after I said that it was because some people that know Fidei say that Fidei is not mafia. (could be TT or DYH, who both could be mafia and therefore would still be correct.)
The only thing townie today in gumshie his play was this sentence
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 23 2016 22:44 GMT
#566
godfuckingdamnit

Again I pressed post too fast.

The bolded I find somewhat townie:
On April 23 2016 13:23 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 13:07 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 23 2016 12:33 gumshoe wrote:
On April 23 2016 11:59 Tumblewood wrote:
I like HtS's associative D1 reads post, but besides that I hate to inform you that you're not lynching me today no matter how shitty or lazy my play is.
+ Show Spoiler [proof] +
On April 22 2016 06:59 Tumblewood wrote:
Voting sicklucker? I don't know why everyone switched all of a sudden.
Going now but will be back just before deadline.
On April 22 2016 07:40 Tumblewood wrote:
NO gdi why did you all sheep me. Told you not to but you just wouldn't listen.
Shape/hts/gum on the tail end of the wagon... Usually i'd say there's one scum on the wagon but there might be two. Running out of phone battery though but will definitely be here before EoN1 (probably tonight though)
On April 23 2016 06:54 Tumblewood wrote:
Don't care about conserving posts because I have so many right now. Even with one post per two minutes they wouldn't run out by eon
anyway
SL is probably the one looking weirdest to me atm
damdred looking even stronger
gumshoe is looking a little better
on mobile, will be useful tomorrow though

amazing how inconsistent one's capitalization can get without anyone noticing
damn it's going to be nice to be a potential nightkill for once


Umahgod that's amazing, your incredible and I look so baaaaads XD kill me now plox, I'll just put out some reads before I die and it'll be ok.

Seriously I could not have fucked up worse, just just put me out of my misery please.

##unvote

Also pretty sure tic is town, all his points on me are solid honestly, his lung thing was just the only scummy thing I saw at the time but honestly he's just not that scummy besides that

##vote gumshoe

wtf gumshoe you didn't have to go full beggar mode there's still like 40 hours
On April 23 2016 12:40 LightningStrike wrote:
So TW actually breadcrumbed his role being Vig. Well that puts a spin on everything about today.

good use of a post ls
On April 23 2016 07:51 gumshoe wrote:
Uh, I was so wrong on sl it hurts,

This changes a lot about the day 1 lynch so hopefull there's stuff to find there.

Damdred flip does not suprise, but he was pushing hts pretty hard, so it's interesting that scum chose to take that pressure off her.

hey gumshoe here's another land mine for ya: do you imply by this that you think hts is scum[mier]?


OH MAH GAWD MORE SHELLS YAAAAY

Also dont worry, I'll def throw out as much as I can regardless, but yeah I really feel like dying today, this is just the worst string of luck bad play I have ever combined.

I was implying hts was a bit scummy yes, but then I saw the case damdred put out onto tumble and thought he was the one that killed for pressure relief.

Now that thats not the case I'm kinda coming back around to hts as scum / : (cause thats def gonna help not get me killed XD)

I will review her filter, she may very well have killed damdred to destroy the one big townie who could be a threat to her / : then pinned that scenario onto tumble, (even though he was coming around to town reading her after)

sigh duck ALL I KNOW IS SHAPE IS TOWN, ALL HAIL SHAPE.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 24 2016 13:25 GMT
#569
Well it shows that he does have some sort of ranking in his head. But sure. I think Gumshoe got to go.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 24 2016 19:12 GMT
#585
Dnu about this lynch. We are slowly going to it but I have no reasons to keep that guy alive.

##unvote
##vote Gumshoe
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 24 2016 20:27 GMT
#602
I havent' read gumshoe his big post but it seemed big enough for him to not be mafia.

##unvote
##vote Fidei


I'll sheep Damdred his read on Fidei.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 24 2016 20:35 GMT
#608
On April 25 2016 05:33 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 05:27 Koshi wrote:
I havent' read gumshoe his big post but it seemed big enough for him to not be mafia.

##unvote
##vote Fidei


I'll sheep Damdred his read on Fidei.

It's not me. If gumshoe isn't mafia, it's not for his massive WoTs late on. Whoever his scum buddy is could very easily have just gee'd him up to post stuff. Read his post and see what you think.

I have read it. I don't know if I think GB is mafia.
But I now want to lynch into GB or DYH.

I don't think 2 townies would want to lynch me.

##unvote
##vote GB


This one is fine.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 24 2016 20:42 GMT
#611
gumshoe why are you not voting GB after taht entire post you made on him. Looks odd.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 24 2016 21:36 GMT
#634
On April 25 2016 05:45 GlowingBear wrote:
ROFL KOSHI why do you not vote people you think is Mafia? You are refusing to vote gumshoe eternally, yet you've just said he looks bad. There was only ONE thing that made you think he was town, but someone pointed out it didn't make the guy town and you agreed it's flimsy

Your play makes no sense in this game, you are a liability to town even if you're town

lol "if I am town"

You have been calling me mafia for the entire game. And now I need to die because "I am a liability"

ggwp
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 24 2016 21:41 GMT
#640
Well like I said, there is 1 mafia between DYH and GB and I don't know who it is.

I am voting GB because
1) Damdred reads (which I will always keep in my back head cuz I suck)
2) DYH had some reasons to be town, I remember voting him D1 and there were a bunch of people saying he did something townie. I don't remember who. But there was 1 post I thought was townie
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 24 2016 21:48 GMT
#646
On April 25 2016 06:43 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 06:41 Koshi wrote:
Well like I said, there is 1 mafia between DYH and GB and I don't know who it is.

I am voting GB because
1) Damdred reads (which I will always keep in my back head cuz I suck)
2) DYH had some reasons to be town, I remember voting him D1 and there were a bunch of people saying he did something townie. I don't remember who. But there was 1 post I thought was townie

Why only one?

cuz mafia doesn't push together.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 24 2016 21:49 GMT
#648
On April 25 2016 06:48 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 06:22 Damdred wrote:
I had to run to the store so my post won't be posted maybe mafia won't kill me and I'll be able to post it when I'm home.

But ATM I have

Damdred
LS
Gumshoe
Ticktock
As my really pretty sure they are town

GB
Dyh
Koshi

As my probably town right now

Hts

Right now is a gut feel town.

I feel like tumble is really likely mafia with what I said.

Which leaves me in a world where SL, shape and james have two mafia in it from my perspective. Technically GB could drop here but idk I'm in his pocket a bit ATM with the hard town read earlier.

If I had to make a guess its James, SL and tumble. But i was still working through things


Hey Koshi. These are Damdred's reads before he died. GB is 'probably town'. If you're sanctifying Damdred's reads, and SL flipped red and Tumble claimed green, shouldn't you be voting me?

Hey Fidei aka James. I have said that lynching you is a good play based on Damdred his posts a million times already. Literally a million times.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 24 2016 21:57 GMT
#663
On April 25 2016 06:51 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 06:49 Koshi wrote:
On April 25 2016 06:48 Fidei86 wrote:
On April 23 2016 06:22 Damdred wrote:
I had to run to the store so my post won't be posted maybe mafia won't kill me and I'll be able to post it when I'm home.

But ATM I have

Damdred
LS
Gumshoe
Ticktock
As my really pretty sure they are town

GB
Dyh
Koshi

As my probably town right now

Hts

Right now is a gut feel town.

I feel like tumble is really likely mafia with what I said.

Which leaves me in a world where SL, shape and james have two mafia in it from my perspective. Technically GB could drop here but idk I'm in his pocket a bit ATM with the hard town read earlier.

If I had to make a guess its James, SL and tumble. But i was still working through things


Hey Koshi. These are Damdred's reads before he died. GB is 'probably town'. If you're sanctifying Damdred's reads, and SL flipped red and Tumble claimed green, shouldn't you be voting me?

Hey Fidei aka James. I have said that lynching you is a good play based on Damdred his posts a million times already. Literally a million times.

Okay, that's half of it. But I don't see how Damdred's read on GB (as town) could cause you to vote him as mafia?

Try reading the thread bro. I can't help you more than that if you can't grasp why I am voting GB.

I voted Shape/Fidei/GB and gumshoe this day, maybe also TW.

I also think those names are pretty ok guesses for mafia. Atm I think gumshoe is doing pretty well. GB is yelling hysterically and being extremely bad, Fidei is doing nothing, and Shape is afk.

DYH is also a good candidate for being scum. I am not sure if I like GB more as scum than DYH. I just feel that the thread thinks it is not DYH and therefore I voted GB.


Outside those I only know LS and TW are town. HTS plays well but I don't know... Probably not mafia. So that's 3 people that normally should die before lylo.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 24 2016 21:59 GMT
#665
On April 25 2016 06:57 Fidei86 wrote:
Dani, how can Shape be mafia. What mafia gets onto a bussing wagon, then stays on it until AFTER another wagon has formed and is hitting town, to get onto the ML. That just makes no sense to me.

DYH though, I could dig. I'm going to re-read his filter again.

Well that's Shape. See... If you would read my meta post on him you should know that is how he survives as mafia. But atm his afkness is NAI, really strange that he is gone. Hopefully he is ok.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 24 2016 22:04 GMT
#675
On April 25 2016 07:00 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 06:53 Fidei86 wrote:
HTS having a seizure. Koshi and gumshoe were the two leading wagons, came into the thread and refused to vote each other. If that isn't associative, I don't know what is.


I will be honest here, I would never let koshi protect me as scum here and while I joke that is the honest truth.

Well... I would still do it because fuck playing as mafia. lol.




I don't know who is mafia. I am somewhat entertained that 2 people think that I am mafia.



If GB is not mafia (which is possible from my POV), game will become even more entertaining.




But with 2 people screaming like mad men for my lynch. I think it is better to lynch within Koshi/GB/DYH atm though. Most likely 2 town and 1 mafia there.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 24 2016 22:06 GMT
#679
If GB is mafia, scum might as well surrender. So that in theory speaks against GB being mafia tbh. lol.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 24 2016 22:07 GMT
#682
On April 25 2016 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I think we should lynch DYH over GB and Gumshoe now. I know I didn't put a big fancy case about DYH but still red his filter this game and his filter from his latest scum that I linked. I pretty certain we should lynch DYH for now and we can have a cop or tracker if we got one of those to check gumshoe or GB.

Well I am ok with doing that. Do you have any reasons for GB being town?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 24 2016 22:11 GMT
#688
On April 25 2016 07:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 07:07 Koshi wrote:
On April 25 2016 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I think we should lynch DYH over GB and Gumshoe now. I know I didn't put a big fancy case about DYH but still red his filter this game and his filter from his latest scum that I linked. I pretty certain we should lynch DYH for now and we can have a cop or tracker if we got one of those to check gumshoe or GB.

Well I am ok with doing that. Do you have any reasons for GB being town?

He been doing his own thing pressuring people although I think his gumshoe read in OMGUS I had him do that as town in Student Newbie XX regarding scum Artanis's case on him.

1 more thing. Do you think that everything gumshoe said about gb isn't good enough or what is your opinion on those posts?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 24 2016 22:14 GMT
#693
On April 21 2016 09:30 sicklucker wrote:
Dont want to lynch Ls hes so cute and trying hard
Ticktock is looking really strong
I do want to lynch koshi but hes probably town. Not sure I can do another koshi game
Gum probably town from what I know about him
FF was not even in the top 3 people for wasting posts early so im not sure why hes being attacked.
Hts seems over defensive but maybe thats just the koshi factor
wish I could read shapelogs posts but luckily he does not have one
I want to lynch gb a lil for this posts
4
Ok since SL never answered me, I must say I don't like his posts

He has an opening calling Damdred "null" (the only thing I can understabd from bolding a name) because damdred was wasting posts. This is bad because:

1) It is impossible to have contentful posts in the beginning of the game
2) Calling someone null is saying something someone did is not alignment indicative, which means (I) he is wasting a post because he is saying nothing contributive, and (ii) he is trying to look contributive while saying nothing at all.

Wanting to lynch LS in the beginning of the game for wasting posts just reinforces this perspective

He clearly missed the many posts by me and my comrades that my post ment nothing.

sicklucker here pushed GB

On April 21 2016 09:31 sicklucker wrote:
Gb do you or do you not just always push me everytime you get a red pm in the inbox?

Did GB answer this? Is this talk between buddies?

On April 22 2016 07:21 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 07:17 Half the Sky wrote:
20/40

On April 21 2016 22:56 Half the Sky wrote:
15/40

[...]

sicklucker, I went through your post and I have a few questions

(1) Why is Tictock strong?
(2) LS has faked his meta as mafia (which you allude to as cute) in Cell Mafia. Give me something more concrete as to why he's town
(3) Shapelog hasn't made concrete reads - that should tell you something. His filter isn't very long...
(4) Expand on GB's scum meta of pushing you - I've played with you both quite a bit and I'm completely unaware of it.


sicklucker, I had these questions of your list post.

And Fecalfeast, what prompted you to suggest voting me?




1 . Cant even remember I got 5 minutes. He had good long posts early when I read the game idk
2. He was quite active for him and doing his usual routine like hes town
3. vote him then? Dont read his posts at all see storm qt
4. gb pushes me everygame as scum. I think thats pretty plane as day. he pushes me quite alot as town tho but he has a 100% rate over a pretty big sample of games 20_ of always trying to lynch me but never succeeding. probably why I dont respect his scum game despite it having a good win percentage

more about GB



So is this between buddies or not? I don't know. Do you know?
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