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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 28 2016 20:14 GMT
#1029
On April 28 2016 07:40 gumshoe wrote:
1 small welp for gumshoe, one giant welp for townkind

finding TvT arguments is one of my few strengths in this game
wish I had been around to actually do something about it
welp
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 30 2016 05:31 GMT
#1065
On April 30 2016 00:29 Tictock wrote, among other things:I've also got a pretty terrible, wifom, reason why you probably aren't the last mafia Shape... + Show Spoiler +
Last game as the last mafia alive Shape took 2 blue's with him into 3 man lylo, and here we know that Fidei was RB'd D1 so the last mafia has to be the RB. If Shape was scum here I'm like 90% sure he would have RB'd Fidei and left him alive for the WIFOM, especially since Fidei was fairly set in his scumread on HtS.

You are correct: This is a terrible reason. First rule of nightkills is that they never make anyone town or scum because they're drenched in wine.
On April 30 2016 00:47 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2016 23:56 Half the Sky wrote:
2/40

Shape, with those last two mafia games from Tictock, aside from what you presented, I'm seeing a few more parallels.

In the Devil Inside, both Trfel and Kushmasta both called Tictock out for misrepresenting their posts/reads. In this game, we have that read on Tumblewood.

In Devil, Kushmasta called Tictock out (post 1207 that game) for ignoring reads that he updated. You have the exact same situation here with when he called Koshi's reads bullshit - it was after Koshi re-evaluated his read on LS and he didn't at all take into consideration why Koshi changed his read on LS.


It's not like town doesn't read into posts and find things that aren't there. Also it was still a good point I had against Tumble, it's super weird to say "I think LS and me are probably town"

I said Koshi's read on LS was BS, as in it was a terrible reason to townread LS. Given that it's Koshi we are talking about, him having weird/bad reads is actually more town indicative imo, which is what I concluded based on that. You brought this point up earlier and concluded the opposite irrc.

+ Show Spoiler [Just something I noticed] +
While this isn't really conclusive I also can't help but notice you've been referencing posts almost exclusively by post number rather than providing the post itself. I point it out kus I used the same tactic in my last scum game (as shitty as it was) because I realized it makes it harder for people to fact check the points you make, it puts the onus on us to plug that number in and find the post you are referring to ourselves. Though I've seen you do this in Obs and such before too (course you can't really quote in those) so idk if that really means much.
Unless you are gumshoe, reading into posts and finding things that aren't there is a trait of someone trying to make a case out of nothing. This is a tactic of a scum, a bad town, or anyone who needs to case someone based on PoE but has no good reasons. And your point on me sucked, what anyone says with regards to their own alignment is 99% NAI.
no comment on that second paragraph because I've hardly been reading the thread
Re: "Just something I noticed" - Does this make HtS town or scum? It looks like you're trying to cast shade over HtS without actually going so far as to-- god forbid-- say that referencing post numbers only is scummy.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 30 2016 05:41 GMT
#1067
On April 30 2016 08:49 Tictock wrote, among other things:
From my pov we have confirmed town Tumble, Koshi is is almost certainly town (or deserves the win if mafia), Shape who is probably town from DYH's D1 push and my shitty reasoning from earlier. Which leaves HtS and Gum.
I don't like the comment "or deserves the win if scum". I don't know whether that's because I think it's scummy, or entirely because that's a stupid phrase. Just leave it out. Say, "Koshi is almost certainly town." There. 1 scum point awarded to TT for saying something so bad, like town would award scum a win for playing so well.
onto relevant points
I think your Shape townread is unfounded, but it's an odd read for scum to make, because Shape is a totally viable mislynch target for scum.

arrrghhh I have weak reasons but strong vibes
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
May 01 2016 22:12 GMT
#1092
Gee, everyone has forty posts per cycle but no one's even hitting ten
I want to ask scum to kill me but I might not be the one who needs it the most
good times for all
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