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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 16 2016 22:20 GMT
#1118
Fuck Tumble has really scumread every target available to him.
OK with Vivax lynch D1.
Slam Rels maybe Shape D2.
yamato start of D3.
Now he's voting Shape.
And each time it's when other people are OK lynching these targets. Pretty sure he's scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 16 2016 22:20 GMT
#1119
Come on. Kill Tumble!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 16 2016 22:30 GMT
#1123
Yeah I skipped most of your big posts that game as I didn't have a lot of time and you have a tendency of creating narratives. Narratives don't prove anything.
But you have a good point there on yamato's geript read, would like to know the reason of the switch too.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 16 2016 22:32 GMT
#1126
cool
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 16 2016 22:37 GMT
#1132
On March 17 2016 07:34 yamato77 wrote:
My geript read was "why is he pushing a Slam lynch so hard?" into "Maybe he's mafia acting like he's just super convinced, or he could be town and actually just super convinced" to "I doubt that he was mafia with Kush" to "I super doubt he was mafia with kush and saved a town by unvoting at the last second."

Never really said much of this because it doesn't really necessitate explaining when he was never a real lynch target.

So you rethought this during the night when kush was modkilled ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 16 2016 22:38 GMT
#1133
On March 17 2016 07:35 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2016 07:30 Rels wrote:
Yeah I skipped most of your big posts that game as I didn't have a lot of time and you have a tendency of creating narratives. Narratives don't prove anything.
But you have a good point there on yamato's geript read, would like to know the reason of the switch too.

They do not prove anything.
But they sure get people lynched. Don't they KubRels?
(this is a inside joke for those not aware.)

=D
I deserved that lynch though, was playing two games at the same time and focused on the other.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 16 2016 22:39 GMT
#1134
On March 17 2016 07:35 geript wrote:
Not super stoked about Tumble lynch but eh. I'm pretty sure we get an extra day.

We have a last lynch if we mislynch garanteed.
IF we mislynch today AND there is no night kill next night, we have an extra mislynch.
Why is Tumble town ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 16 2016 22:41 GMT
#1136
On March 17 2016 07:41 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2016 07:37 Rels wrote:
On March 17 2016 07:34 yamato77 wrote:
My geript read was "why is he pushing a Slam lynch so hard?" into "Maybe he's mafia acting like he's just super convinced, or he could be town and actually just super convinced" to "I doubt that he was mafia with Kush" to "I super doubt he was mafia with kush and saved a town by unvoting at the last second."

Never really said much of this because it doesn't really necessitate explaining when he was never a real lynch target.

So you rethought this during the night when kush was modkilled ?

I re-evaluate constantly, I just don't always post the results.

No prob with that, I just want to know when that happened.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 16 2016 22:59 GMT
#1158
BS
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 13:42 GMT
#1189
So we still have 1 free mislynch (= we have 1 24 hours day and 1 48 hours day. We should lynch today IMO so we have max duration LYLO should we mislynch again
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 13:45 GMT
#1190
On March 18 2016 08:12 Shapelog wrote:
Now a question.
@Rels, what made you say BS when Koshi claim.

It was obviously BS, if Koshi had a check he would have claimed it at the beginning of the day to win the game. But then I thought it was super likely to come from VT trying to attract a hit during the night.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 13:48 GMT
#1191
On March 18 2016 09:08 Koshi wrote:
Oh and I am a veteran obviously.

You have only 1 life right ? Cause that means mafia didn't shoot two nights. Which means Shape is 99% scum. I can't see yamato or geript doing that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 13:50 GMT
#1194
On March 18 2016 14:57 geript wrote:
The thing that's honestly been bugging me is why Rels didn't unvote. like when I saw the claim at midnight I was pretty sure it was fake. But unvote to get info, get a CC, learn who the green check was, learn who the different check was. I'm half expecting a CC from someone else. Idk, I'd still like Rels to explain his reasoning and thinking.

I almost unvoted because I thought it was fake. But I realized he posted that right at deadline to attract a hit. I regretted posting "BS" BTW 'cause that showed Koshi's plan was fake, but for some reason it worked. (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 13:51 GMT
#1195
On March 18 2016 22:50 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 22:48 Rels wrote:
On March 18 2016 09:08 Koshi wrote:
Oh and I am a veteran obviously.

You have only 1 life right ? Cause that means mafia didn't shoot two nights. Which means Shape is 99% scum. I can't see yamato or geript doing that.

Why would I not shoot?

There is no good explanation for that 'cause it's clearly a mistake. So you're the most likely to do that cause you're new and weird, and yamato and geript are not new.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 13:54 GMT
#1197
On March 18 2016 22:06 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote:
I know. Can you tell me who could be mafia, who is likely town and who is confirmed town for you?

I rather just claim scum again.

*sign* Town is hard.

Sure why not. I prob. will reread them (minus Yammty) and reread the game and make that list i was talking about.

Assuming there is no CCed from Yammty/Rels, you (koshi) are confirmed town.
I know my alignment, hopefully, and I am town.

That leaves Yammty, Gerpit and Rels.
+ Show Spoiler [reasoning] +

Rels: I thought he was blue (I guess i should of thought he was a PR instead but w/e) due to:
Why do i think Rels is/has been blue/PR.
His blue talk has been off the motherfucking chain. All those post about blue claiming and shit most likely is town. It kinda of hit me after the few first posts about the topic. Maybe 1 or 2 is ok, but with the amount he has, it just seems unnatural.
Also I read How to Improve mafia XXX + Show Spoiler [story] +
The way I came to mafia XXX analyst btw, I was on the recruitment page for Mafia when i saw the links. I never read them so i clicked them and decided to read them. Then in mafia XXX i found the blue hunting thing and it made me think of Rels.
for next game to see what i can improve on, and the blue thingy under the mafia section kinda reminded of Rels.

-Tries to contribute but doesn't stick their neck out
-Shows fear/wants to instinctively hide
-Drastically lower post quantity compared to games when they are green but still tries to contribute.
-Focuses most of their posts on blue roles or ignores them entirely.
-To figure out which role specifically, they will focus unnatural amounts of attention on that role, know the rules for that role thoroughly, or ignore it entirely while mentioning other blue roles. Figuring out the specific is difficult to ascertain and not always applicable, but these heuristics will hold up more often than not.

I do not know about 2-3 (i really do not know Rels meta, nor am i really a meta player) but 4-5 kinda nails him on the head.

Since he Atm is not blue, It is worth looking into him more. Worth looking into his other sus. during yesterday.

I he also has pushed every wagon come to think about it, and then some.

Pushed Slam
Pushed Vivax
Try to sus. Gerpit
Pushed Slam
Pushed Tumble
+ sus. other people
But i've done it too so i need to look into it.


Yammty i think is town due to his d1 sus on kush. Plus what happen yesterday. It is possible that he is scum, but i highly doubt it. I had some sus. with his gerpit and tumble progression (did he comment on tumble progression?) but his explaintion with gerpit makes sense plus timing shows that he did not have come up with a reason for why.


Geprit,
I kinda have forgotten he has been here. He makes a post or two and then just dissapears. I need to look to see if he follows up actually.

The only thing I remember really from him is the unvote. It makes him looks more townie.



So Yammty is most likely town.
And it is Rels Vs. Gerpit. Rels needs a look at because I realized that he has been on every wagon as well as me.

Weird that you think I wouldn't do this as VT because you obsed me doing exactly that (forcing doc to claim) during the smurf game.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 13:59 GMT
#1201
On March 18 2016 22:56 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 22:51 Rels wrote:
On March 18 2016 22:50 Shapelog wrote:
On March 18 2016 22:48 Rels wrote:
On March 18 2016 09:08 Koshi wrote:
Oh and I am a veteran obviously.

You have only 1 life right ? Cause that means mafia didn't shoot two nights. Which means Shape is 99% scum. I can't see yamato or geript doing that.

Why would I not shoot?

There is no good explanation for that 'cause it's clearly a mistake. So you're the most likely to do that cause you're new and weird, and yamato and geript are not new.

Weird maybe but new?
That is a stretch, I've played in 5 games (6 counting replaced out) and have played scum before. I wouldn't made that mistake.
Even if i was pissed (like koshi suggested) I would of gotten over it and submitted a night kill.

I know i come up with crazy ideas as scum (or at least i think i do) but fucking saying it is me because i am "New and weird" is not really fair. You are using the fact that i am a "newb" against me.

Of course I am. What is weird with my thinking ? If I was scum, game would be over 'cause I wouldn't ever hold my shot. I think it's the same for yamato and geript. On the other hand, you're a kinda crazy guy that do not have a lot of experience yet.
Like, scum didn't hold his shot once but fukcing twice. It cannot be a mistake, it was deliberate.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 13:59 GMT
#1202
BTW you were the guy that immediately thought scum hold their shot N2 right ? I think yamato or geript remarked that. Will check that
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 14:00 GMT
#1203
This is all assuming Koshi is vet BTW. I think only yamato didn't post since end of night, if he counterclaims game is over as we just lynch the two of them.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 14:01 GMT
#1204
On March 18 2016 22:58 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 22:54 Rels wrote:
On March 18 2016 22:06 Shapelog wrote:
On March 18 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote:
I know. Can you tell me who could be mafia, who is likely town and who is confirmed town for you?

I rather just claim scum again.

*sign* Town is hard.

Sure why not. I prob. will reread them (minus Yammty) and reread the game and make that list i was talking about.

Assuming there is no CCed from Yammty/Rels, you (koshi) are confirmed town.
I know my alignment, hopefully, and I am town.

That leaves Yammty, Gerpit and Rels.
+ Show Spoiler [reasoning] +

Rels: I thought he was blue (I guess i should of thought he was a PR instead but w/e) due to:
Why do i think Rels is/has been blue/PR.
His blue talk has been off the motherfucking chain. All those post about blue claiming and shit most likely is town. It kinda of hit me after the few first posts about the topic. Maybe 1 or 2 is ok, but with the amount he has, it just seems unnatural.
Also I read How to Improve mafia XXX + Show Spoiler [story] +
The way I came to mafia XXX analyst btw, I was on the recruitment page for Mafia when i saw the links. I never read them so i clicked them and decided to read them. Then in mafia XXX i found the blue hunting thing and it made me think of Rels.
for next game to see what i can improve on, and the blue thingy under the mafia section kinda reminded of Rels.

-Tries to contribute but doesn't stick their neck out
-Shows fear/wants to instinctively hide
-Drastically lower post quantity compared to games when they are green but still tries to contribute.
-Focuses most of their posts on blue roles or ignores them entirely.
-To figure out which role specifically, they will focus unnatural amounts of attention on that role, know the rules for that role thoroughly, or ignore it entirely while mentioning other blue roles. Figuring out the specific is difficult to ascertain and not always applicable, but these heuristics will hold up more often than not.

I do not know about 2-3 (i really do not know Rels meta, nor am i really a meta player) but 4-5 kinda nails him on the head.

Since he Atm is not blue, It is worth looking into him more. Worth looking into his other sus. during yesterday.

I he also has pushed every wagon come to think about it, and then some.

Pushed Slam
Pushed Vivax
Try to sus. Gerpit
Pushed Slam
Pushed Tumble
+ sus. other people
But i've done it too so i need to look into it.


Yammty i think is town due to his d1 sus on kush. Plus what happen yesterday. It is possible that he is scum, but i highly doubt it. I had some sus. with his gerpit and tumble progression (did he comment on tumble progression?) but his explaintion with gerpit makes sense plus timing shows that he did not have come up with a reason for why.


Geprit,
I kinda have forgotten he has been here. He makes a post or two and then just dissapears. I need to look to see if he follows up actually.

The only thing I remember really from him is the unvote. It makes him looks more townie.



So Yammty is most likely town.
And it is Rels Vs. Gerpit. Rels needs a look at because I realized that he has been on every wagon as well as me.

Weird that you think I wouldn't do this as VT because you obsed me doing exactly that (forcing doc to claim) during the smurf game.

I didn't ob smurf.......Only reason why i even batted a eye at it was because someone thought i was playing. I didn't read shit that game.
I am not even on the ob list for that game.

Thought you did 'cause you posted in it. Alrigtht. Then go read the last days to confirm / deny then if you want to attack me on that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 14:10 GMT
#1208
On March 17 2016 02:26 geript wrote:
Tbh. I'm really curious why he thinks Mafia wouldn't shoot. That's a really different conclusion to make.

Yeah found it. Gotta find the original post now.
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