Who Wants to be a Millionaire Cell Mini Mafia

On February 23 2016 08:52 ritoky wrote:


you got any read on me yet nerd? also what spot do you think our cell should go?

On February 23 2016 10:22 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


you know you are gonna have to vote every day...
and on day 6 are you gonna read like a million pages?

On February 23 2016 13:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Do you actually like your odds in a different cell?

On February 23 2016 13:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


You're saying you townlean ritoky but you don't want him as mayor because there's a 50% shot of him being scum.
This means you like your odds elsewhere.

Who, in your opinion, should be mayor?

On February 23 2016 14:43 Kuragari42 wrote:


Has a cell game ever been won with a scum mayor?

On February 23 2016 08:22 Damdred wrote:
Hello everyone,

I am damdred and I will be running for mayor in this great town! As we remember the folly of last cell games we will not repeat that and give mafia easy victories. As my cell in the last game was the only one to give town a point I think I have a rather favorable plan to help us out.

The first thing we have to decide is where we want people to go, this is important.

The order I wish to propose is

C, D, E, B, A

The reasoning behind this is simple.

Cell C is perhaps the hardest out of the people as it has a couple lynch baits and hard to read people. We put this cell up first and use our 50/50. We instantly have a innocent child in the thread and we can focus on getting the first point for town. (plus rels is really good as town in short burst situation).

Cell D is another ok cell. Breshke if town by that time will have some form of good thoughts and hopefully someone who is good at reading vayne can help in that regard.

In day three is where ask the odience comes into play we would of had a good amount of time for everyone I. The obs to have a solid opinion.

At this point we should all know 100% if vicax is scum or town by his activity and involvement and what kush has going for him. The other person I don't know I think but if we figure out that cell we have a great chance for a point and a hopeful victory still having most of the super actives in game as well.

the last two cells I picked I. That order as the mayor powers will be used and I think we will win the game with cell 3 or my cell. And if it co to yes I will have a 100% read on ritoky and hopefully SL and I consider there cell to be the best in the game.

This is the plan we should follow, our focus each day in the first 24 hours should be on each cell (if we are in that cell) we have to formulate reads o. Other people in it and push them.

Put me as mayor and you can't go wrong I will push activity and push my plan through to the fi ish.

On February 23 2016 09:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
Darthfoley I've rolled scum 4 games in a row before this so you'll be able to tell real quick what I am

On February 23 2016 20:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:

Your vote is automatically on yourself.
Is that really rofl worthy? You seem nervous.

On February 23 2016 21:08 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:

Why don't you want time to spew yourself town?

On February 23 2016 21:49 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


Fair point on kuragari but here's some things you should consider:
Mayor being scum isn't a huge deal.
Kuragari is a newb. He probably doesn't think like you. Maybe he doesn't have a great understanding of what's going on.
Ritoky is the kind of mafia who would try to get mayor. I could see the mayor race igniting his try hard.

On February 24 2016 01:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
So here are some reads:

Cell A

If anything, I don't think ritoky is the scum in this cell - I'm a huge fan of his super-American rhetoric and the fact that he's actively trying to figure out the best order and such is townpoints for him. Some of his questioning is a little all over the place but he's trying to do things and that always makes me think highly of people.

I think I'm leaning towards kura being the scum in this cell. His posts have been horribly underwhelming and he isn't even trying to talk about anything relevant. Sicklucker has some weird posts, but sicklucker always does and I don't think less of him for it. The biggest strike I can come up with against him is that he came up with some weird percentage as to why ritoky shouldn't be mayor but couldn't come up with an alternative, though I'm not sure that's a relevant point.

Cell B

I've already discussed it, but I think shapelog is the scum in our cell.

I think I'll probably end up as the competing wagon if our cell winds up for lynch but I figured as such earlier.
If we do end up using an ability here, I think 50/50 is probably better on this cell than ask the audience. Obs isn't going to be helpful since I'm basically an engima to everyone all the time. The 50/50 has a chance of clearing me and making it way easier for everyone else, but if it doesn't then it's just going to be difficult regardless.

Cell C

LightningStrike seems pretty normal from my pov - I don't see much of a reason to suspect him and his thought process seems pretty solid/followable.

Foley had some weird post earlier where he wanted his cell to go first even though he had no clue what was going on in it? He seems sort of confident that people will be able to read him town which is always nice to see in newer players so I won't hold that against him. His other big posts have been relatively solid so townlean here.

Rels hasn't posted yet so...There you go.

PoE dictates that Rels is mafia but I can't solidify that read until he does things. Foley is my least confident townread in that cell so if Rels ends up looking supertown then that's probably where I'll take a second look at things.

Cell D

This is a cell that I might have a problem with. I have a townlean here but it's pretty shaky so I'd suggest we use a power here to make it easier.

Fecalfeast had a good bit on Breshke that I liked, namely that he thought Breshke was boring and underwhelming at a time where I thought something relatively similar. Normally I leave him alone because he's, like, super chill you guys, and he never really bothers me at all regardless of his alignment. Still a townlean but I'll be watching this cell regardless.

VA was suspicious of me earlier, which is par for the course, but PoE'd me as scum despite the fact that shapelog never posted or did anything at that point. Why did he write me off so early and why was he ignoring shapelog? It doesn't make any sense to me, but he admitted that it's kinda shaky so maybe it's just early game paranoia. Wait and see here.

Breshke is underwhelming and boring. Possible scum. I looked through his filter to find controversial things and there just wasn't anything there. Like, at all.

Cell E

Vivax has dedicated himself to being more unreadable since he keeps getting lynched for stupid garbage and I don't really blame him, but he will absolutely step up if he's town because that's just how he is provided that he's done offering himself up for lynch just to break his meta. (I'm actually pretty sure that he finished with that a while ago but I'm not entirely sure and I refuse to do research just to figure that out.)

Kush seems relatively town and is being bad at reading me as per usual so whatever there. Kush is mediocre and apathetic as scum and is usually lynched relatively quickly, whereas he almost always looks town and plays like town as town.

Bumatlarge is doing nothing along with Vivax and that's all I can say about that slot. I've never played with him so I don't know what he's like regardless.

I can read Vivax pretty well when he starts doing work so regardless of when this cell goes I think we can make it work. First is probably not a great idea but after that it's probably fine. Vivax can only remain low-key for so long.

On February 24 2016 02:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I dare someone to call me hard to read after that.
Go on.

I'm waiting.

On February 24 2016 03:45 ritoky wrote:
the problem with that order is that rels is afk currently and gets more obv town over time, and everyone that isn't female is pretty shitty at reading LS on day 1.

On February 24 2016 22:04 Rels wrote:

I 100% disagree with both you and Damdred. The only scums that are OK with using 50/50 are scums that are heavily townread, as 1v1 puts them in a position where the other guy is lynched. Scums that are scumread do not want to 50/50 used as they might lose the 1V1 fight. If Breshke is scum, he is MORE likely to be lynched in a 1v1 than in a 1v2.

On February 25 2016 05:43 darthfoley wrote:
Okay;

in my cell, I know Rels or LS is mafia. I have already talked about why I didn't like Rels's analysis of cells D and C, which after a long period of AFK seems kinda like scum catching up. I didn't like his reasoning, but towns often see the game in different perspectives. Basically, while I disagree with Rels's methodology, our disagreement does not necessarily mean he is mafia.

If you're asking why I think Rels's VA read wasn't good, just look at my filter. He described his play as aggressive, implying he had been pushing leads and stuff. I think it's quite clear that it's either the wrong adjective to use, or a false description.

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I do however, find it odd that LS was kinda universally town read D1, and has been pretty hands off since, during the cell D discussion AND the arguments between me and Rels. After all, he knows one of us is mafia (if he's town) and would be much more invested in us. Look at my post above; I don't think that post comes from LS who's been following the game or particularly cares which one of us eventually ends up being scum read, because in this scenario, Rels and I are both town and mafia gets the +1 regardless.

On February 25 2016 08:15 LightningStrike wrote:

What is bad about his reads other than his read on me?

On February 25 2016 07:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
Alright so here's the list:
Most confident
LS - He knows his meta as scum is to not post at all and this game most of his posts are spammy and benign (I think I used the word benign already this game oops)
shapelog - I think OWS and Damdred look way more towny
Vivax - He's pushing on VA for something I honestly think is plausible. Two people with bum in their name is something that would throw me off I think.
SL - Seems right.
Breshke - I don't know, tbh, but the way vivax is pushing VA makes me think it's not VA
Least Confident

On February 25 2016 22:33 Shapelog wrote:

I am town so it is actually 4/5 wrong.

On February 26 2016 00:09 Vivax wrote:


if by people you mean rayn then you should know he rages as any alignment

On February 26 2016 00:24 Kuragari42 wrote:


I can understand where you're coming from, however, do you really believe that Breshke looks so overwhelmingly scum over Vayne? I cannot see what made them have 6-0 votes. That is why I voted the way I did.

On February 26 2016 01:41 LightningStrike wrote:

That was Sicklucker not me... Like are you blind?

On February 26 2016 04:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
Am I the only person annoyed by this influx of players that think long posts of recount and diatribe counts as them contributing

let me tell you guys something, no one reads those super long posts and you don't get town cred for it.

This is a good post to end my filter on

On February 26 2016 07:02 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
everyone here irght now gets town points cause they were curious about the flip.

On February 26 2016 09:25 Shapelog wrote:
What happen during linux that made LS unable to read SL? it is bad enough that some of those reads are purely meta (with me, darth, and Kura all not going to know it.) but I do not get not being able to read someone because of 1 game.

On February 28 2016 07:14 Vivax wrote:
If we hit right today the last cell should be a breeze, sicklucker being 100 % afk at lynch and on top of it on a mislynch incriminates him pretty heavily already. Still have to read his filter thoroughly.

On February 28 2016 06:32 Rels wrote:

fuck you

On February 23 2016 07:05 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Make me Mayor. I have sick strats and I will listen to my electorate.

On February 25 2016 22:33 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Looking forward to rels/darth/LS, I've narrowed it down to rels vs LS.

Rels - pushing superficial cases.
LS - a meta black hole. I don't recall every experiencing scumLS and townLS always looks scummy to me. So just approaching his filter without meta, I think I like it.

Therefore I will probably be voting rels.

On February 29 2016 02:25 bumatlarge wrote:
lol look at his last scum game
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?user=kushm4sta

it's like something out of my imagination. You think that's the same kush?

Out of respect to vivax, I'll look hard into him, but I know he's scum so my glasses might be rose colored

On March 01 2016 04:44 ritoky wrote:
my cell is so worthless. i should have put us early or given damdred mayor. i got 1 guy who fucks off for 46 hrs a phase, and the other one who is here and just does nothing.

don't mind me i am salty as shit over the voting stuff i found.

On March 01 2016 06:20 ritoky wrote:
voted bum cuz i don't think i have the time or the influence to push it elsewhere. i suspect it is kush. i have severe doubts it is bum, but obs qt might be > me

if bum flips town, i suspect that OWS and SL are the final 2 mafia.

if bum flips mafia, then shape and kura probably.

if damdred is mafia i am a goat being led to the slaughter. i will read his filter before the end of next phase in the very least.

On March 02 2016 05:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Mafia in cell 2 was LS: I seriously doubt both of the others in my cell voting him up to dead even was an attempt at wifom - that cell was a necessity for mafia to even come close to winning this game.

For Rels to be mafia indicates that whoever the scum is among the other two was so ballsy that they thought they could win cell 3 and stay in the game despite bum being a sinking ship.

As for who the scum in our cell is, I want to say shape but I'm still working through the "why" and what Vivax posted about Damdred.

On March 02 2016 08:03 ritoky wrote:
SL, last time you talked about this cell you thought it was obi? still the case? why?

On March 01 2016 10:13 sicklucker wrote:
Well yesterday i was sure today was gonna be an easy obi vote. but shapelogs play yesterday was pretty bad. He waited till the end and tried to get the wagon to switch multitple times

On March 02 2016 10:10 Shapelog wrote:
Ok I am barly able to see the screen anymore and I am just looking at my keyboard to type.

My tinfoil theory (which i have not fully looked at btw) basically puts Damdred/Sl as scum together because of a few reasons.
One, He seems tunneled on Kura, but rarely meations SL. even called SL useless and not caring (but yet that does not seem to send off red flags as of late.)
however I soon as i say i thought Kura was town. Damdred jumped on me.
Two, He does not even seem to really care about Cell A. He is like "wow your cell is hard." yet it was one of the easier cells in the game tbh. there is not really a lot to ponder other which of the 2 do you think is more lazy.

There is more, But i need eyes really to fitler dive. Prob. worth doing a associative read for both OWS and Damdred with the 2 flipped scum (and maybe Darth as well, though, that might not be fair tbh).

On March 02 2016 10:19 Shapelog wrote:

Blue. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503525-shin-megami-tensei-the-devil-inside-mafia

On March 03 2016 00:41 Shapelog wrote:
I am just happy I have a small filter for my rep. this game. 16 pages without a filter restriction!!!!
My town game is surely improving.

On March 03 2016 00:53 Damdred wrote:


I thought we all agreed that ls was the scum not rels?

On March 03 2016 01:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


How?

On March 03 2016 01:45 Shapelog wrote:
Like SL, can you please explain why you think so instead of spamming SHAPELOG SCUMMMM over a joke?
You getting out classes by kura

On March 03 2016 02:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Both of my suspects in the final cell are voting shape...

On March 03 2016 02:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Sicklucker are you ever going to bother explaining your reads?

On March 03 2016 04:23 Kuragari42 wrote:
I wanted to filter dive Damdred but 5 pages in I realized I was diving ritoky...

Anyone want a ritoky read post before dam/obi? lol.

On March 03 2016 04:57 ritoky wrote:
is there any way i can rig this so i auto win tomorrow if i am wrong?

On March 03 2016 05:03 Shapelog wrote:

Lol technically I also have killed 2 scum.

On March 01 2016 06:17 Shapelog wrote:
Urg, PoE says Bum is mafia, but my gut tells me it is kush.

On March 01 2016 05:13 Shapelog wrote:
It is funny that Kush calls the last cell hard but aviods ever talking about it or giving his thoughts about it as of late :/

On March 01 2016 04:56 Shapelog wrote:
Fuck it, I am sure that a Town Kush would not just disappear like this.

On March 01 2016 04:58 Shapelog wrote:
Like, from what Ik of kush, scum kush does not care. Town does.

On March 01 2016 06:21 Shapelog wrote:

Well Vivax to me is town. And I can not find anything really to scum read/file a case against Kush that to me, convinces me that he is scum. Other than a course his awful vote yesterday and lack of care (he is doing it again).

so that leaves you Bum. But I have goosebumps voting you.

On March 03 2016 05:24 Shapelog wrote:
Like for real, both you and damdred are pushing something that does not exist. Or if it does, prob. is taken out of context.

Did i think kush was scum at one point yes. Did i push and debated his death no. My vote was influence by others yes, did i expect others to follow, prob. but it was not realistic.

On March 03 2016 05:32 ritoky wrote:


does breshke really count for anyone? and don't forget the dead town you afk voted in the middle there.

On March 03 2016 05:49 ritoky wrote:
because this cell makes no fucking sense to me.

firstly all 3 people in this cell think LS is mafia now, which blows my fucking mind, but i guess i shouldn't expect anything less because if rels is mafia then we just vote OWS and SL and we will win the game 100% of the time.

secondly the person i initially thought was scum gets voted on by both people in my cell which makes him incredibly less likely to be scum.

BUT THEN no1 votes him.....we have been sitting here for hours and no1 has voted him....it is easy for the mafia of this cell to just contrive some shit to vote and then you're sitting in a locked majority unless a town unvotes....but that hasn't happened, which is what i have been sitting here trying to bait....so that shit is blowing my mind.

and then i got people telling me damdred is mafia, which i am just never buying this game cuz if he is then he pocketed me many days ago when he bitched at me for not listening to him and i trust my read on him better than anyone elses...even though it has gotten worse over time.....

and then i got shape typing to OWS like he is confirmed town....this cell is just confusing to me right now.

On March 03 2016 06:55 ritoky wrote:
please just win the game here....f3 too stressful.

On March 03 2016 07:08 sicklucker wrote:


lol i wonder

On March 03 2016 06:48 Kuragari42 wrote:


I didn't read the other 2 before voting Shape so I felt it would be spitting in his face if I straight up tunneled without checking other options.

On March 03 2016 05:42 Kuragari42 wrote:
Well I probably am not going to be on until right before the deadline so I wanted to post my incomplete look into Damdred.

Damdred -

Post 137: I would have to disagree with shape? on the bottom of null read being scum indicative. It was really early and Breshke didn't have many posts to go off of.+ Show Spoiler +

Page 2 has much newbie buttoning.

Post 431: I'd agree with his point on shape.+ Show Spoiler +

Post 473: He wants to first form reads on cells that go early. Yes, I can sometimes find assumed town tells.+ Show Spoiler +

Post 560: False logic. Scum would most likely only want the 50/50 used on them if they were being town read. + Show Spoiler +

Post 1302: He TR a scum here. + Show Spoiler +

Actively pressured/bussed bum.

On February 24 2016 03:59 Kuragari42 wrote:
B should go first.

On February 24 2016 04:00 Damdred wrote:
Why B?

On February 24 2016 04:11 Kuragari42 wrote:


Shapelog doesn't spew town.. he just spews..

On February 28 2016 07:12 Kuragari42 wrote:


If LS is scum, then scum wouldn't care which one was lynched.

On March 03 2016 06:52 Kuragari42 wrote:


No more qualms.

On March 04 2016 07:57 ritoky wrote:
was expecting posts about why the other guy is mafia when i came back....got nothing.

she liked the otters and the octopus the most, sharks are too big for her i think

On February 24 2016 02:05 Kuragari42 wrote:
This Obi guy is hard to read.

On March 05 2016 07:10 LightningStrike wrote:
sicklucker I think your biggest issue was you not trying hard during my Cell or Bum's Cell like you kinda gave up :\

On March 05 2016 09:19 Kuragari42 wrote:


Hahahaha! I really hope that is heavy sarcasm! I would of lynched me even if I didn't post this: + Show Spoiler +!

Like how did no one notice this?!?!?

On March 05 2016 08:31 Rels wrote:
You were fucked anyway after all those days of not doing anything