On February 18 2016 03:43 Shapelog wrote:
OH HE IS A COUNTERWAGON???
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And there goes one possible reason to read Shapelog as town, that he wouldn't vote for survival. Cool OH HE IS A COUNTERWAGON???
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Trfel
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On February 18 2016 03:43 Shapelog wrote: And there goes one possible reason to read Shapelog as town, that he wouldn't vote for survival. Cool Show nested quote + On February 18 2016 03:42 The Shining wrote: On February 18 2016 03:36 Trfel wrote: On February 18 2016 03:34 The Shining wrote: And someone else sees it On February 18 2016 03:27 Shapelog wrote: *Sigh* Kush I believed in you :/ Oh well, At this point I guess who I think should get lynch does not matter. Not changing my vote thou to a counter wagon that will just end up hammering a Town. I am just going to post reads at this point. Put my death to good use. This post is weird. How do you know a counter wagon would be town? And why would you think who should be lynched doesn't matter? It always matters, especially since you said you'd be giving reads. You are saying who you should lynch won't matter. Then you're saying you'll give reads, implying they'll matter. I don't understand. ![]() If you look at the vote count, it's even more weird. The other wagons are all at basically the same vote count, he can make his own counterwagon. he said I was the lynch scum wanted and implies one or both were scum. When I asked, he said SL could be scum, not Eden and used a post of SLs. SL is a viable counterwagon to Shape and he said SL could be scum. Why is he not voting SL and saying a counter wagon would be town? OH HE IS A COUNTERWAGON??? ##UnvoteVote:Saltlicker ![]() | ||
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On February 18 2016 03:59 GlowingBear wrote: We're basically lynching between Shapelog and sicklucker and maybe Palmar. Not much happening.Dude, catching up is exhausting. I'm on page 21 and I'll keep catching up later but I need a break. Can someone summarise what's going on right now for me? Shapelog is in the lead, I suggest you take a look at him. | ||
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On February 18 2016 04:07 Breshke wrote: I mean, maybe you're right. Part of the problem is that it's extremely subjective, while I personally feel that that initial question went nowhere, I can see how people would feel that it really did have a point behind it. I can also see how people wouldn't care enough to respond and say so, unfortunately.last few pages from shape seem really really scummmy. Especially this Show nested quote + On February 18 2016 03:20 Shapelog wrote: On February 18 2016 03:19 nooniansoong wrote: um shape why are you voting trfel for a joke...? Because I am tired of voting off GB L33t. But Srs. he is prob mafia. I'm not sure if he is reffering to trefel or GB here im fairly sure it's trefel but he doesn't bring it up again when he should 100% be trying to push a counter wagon especially if someone is "prob mafia". I get that he also scumreads SL but it just seemed like the easy way out and he ahsn't explained this read at all. ##Vote Shapelog Also trefel it might not be important now but how do you think that no one responds to you when you point out my early questions went nowhere and correctly idenify this as something I do as scum. Makes me feel that there is scum in people that are more familiar to me and are resigned to not lynching me. Is this a bad assumption? I think it's probably more of people just not wanting to talk about you, other than maybe Palmar, anyway. I guess it would make sense for scum to push you more than they have, assuming you are town, but I'm not yet sure what that means. | ||
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On February 18 2016 04:08 GlowingBear wrote: The reasoning for Palmar being mafia is that his reads are lazy and he's being bad.Show nested quote + On February 18 2016 04:00 Trfel wrote: On February 18 2016 03:59 GlowingBear wrote: We're basically lynching between Shapelog and sicklucker and maybe Palmar. Not much happening.Dude, catching up is exhausting. I'm on page 21 and I'll keep catching up later but I need a break. Can someone summarise what's going on right now for me? Shapelog is in the lead, I suggest you take a look at him. My vote is on Sicklucker, but can you direct me to the reasoning of why Shapelog and Palmar are Mafia? I really didn't see anything alignmrent indicative during my read-through I think that this reasoning is a bit poor, to say the least. Shapelog is mafia because he hasn't had a push or direction to his play until he became the leading wagon. Only at this point did he show an actual interest in scumreads, and he seems to be flailing wildly instead of actually figuring out who is scum. | ||
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On February 18 2016 04:31 GlowingBear wrote: Hm, I haven't seen any genuine insights from him. Please explain?Show nested quote + On February 18 2016 04:15 Trfel wrote: On February 18 2016 04:08 GlowingBear wrote: The reasoning for Palmar being mafia is that his reads are lazy and he's being bad.On February 18 2016 04:00 Trfel wrote: On February 18 2016 03:59 GlowingBear wrote: We're basically lynching between Shapelog and sicklucker and maybe Palmar. Not much happening.Dude, catching up is exhausting. I'm on page 21 and I'll keep catching up later but I need a break. Can someone summarise what's going on right now for me? Shapelog is in the lead, I suggest you take a look at him. My vote is on Sicklucker, but can you direct me to the reasoning of why Shapelog and Palmar are Mafia? I really didn't see anything alignmrent indicative during my read-through I think that this reasoning is a bit poor, to say the least. Shapelog is mafia because he hasn't had a push or direction to his play until he became the leading wagon. Only at this point did he show an actual interest in scumreads, and he seems to be flailing wildly instead of actually figuring out who is scum. I don't think Shapelog is the lynch for today. I've seen him droppig some genuine insights that showed fair amount of effort behind it. He could be Mafia but there are far better lynches today | ||
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I think kill sicklucker for being willing to kill Shapelog after earlier saying that he wanted to be safe and not kill power roles | ||
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Shapelog may very well be mafia, but that's for time to figure out. Not right now. I don't have much of an opinion on nooniansoong, but he has been fairly noncommittal as town. See Outlaw Mafia, for example. | ||
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On February 18 2016 04:59 Breshke wrote: He did?Show nested quote + On February 18 2016 04:58 Trfel wrote: No don't kill Shapelog I think kill sicklucker for being willing to kill Shapelog after earlier saying that he wanted to be safe and not kill power roles also he literally just said he didnt want to work out shape because he was an enigma, shape then claims blue and now he says he will risk it. Sl did claim blue also though Well, if both of them are telling the truth, then I have no clue what's going on. I guess probably either nooniansoong or GlowingBear? This is kinda stupid. | ||
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This is pretty not ideal. Someone help? | ||
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Maybe just lynch him? | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:24 Tumblewood wrote: I remember being willing to lynch him earlier. The reasons are in my filter.Show nested quote + On February 18 2016 05:18 Trfel wrote: Oh yeah, scott31337's in the game. Maybe just lynch him? This feels scummy to me... Town doesn't just settle for a lynch like that, especially when there are other valid options. Basically he has no drive to lynch mafia. He went from "I'm scumreading Breshke" to "placing my vote on GlowingBear for now" without explanation. And his Tumblewood read doesn't feel natural at all. He's very uninvested and dry. The Shining's anger at being scumread felt a bit towny, maybe I'm misreading things, but I don't really think so? Damdred says that the best way to read The Shining is to look for his displays of emotion, and here those felt natural to me? I'll read his filter again, but I'd appreciate it if people would look at scott31337. | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:33 rsoultin wrote: I've looked at his filter and I only have one reason to think that he is mafia. The reason is that he had one very strong scum read, but then resorted to doing nothing and asking for people's cases, like he doesn't care about his earlier read. And as town, Palmar generally cares a whole lot about his early reads.Show nested quote + On February 18 2016 05:29 Trfel wrote: On February 18 2016 05:24 Tumblewood wrote: I remember being willing to lynch him earlier. The reasons are in my filter.On February 18 2016 05:18 Trfel wrote: Oh yeah, scott31337's in the game. Maybe just lynch him? This feels scummy to me... Town doesn't just settle for a lynch like that, especially when there are other valid options. Basically he has no drive to lynch mafia. He went from "I'm scumreading Breshke" to "placing my vote on GlowingBear for now" without explanation. And his Tumblewood read doesn't feel natural at all. He's very uninvested and dry. The Shining's anger at being scumread felt a bit towny, maybe I'm misreading things, but I don't really think so? Damdred says that the best way to read The Shining is to look for his displays of emotion, and here those felt natural to me? I'll read his filter again, but I'd appreciate it if people would look at scott31337. nh, i can look at scott again, but palmar? Which is a pretty good argument, but other than this, Palmar seems like clear town. I'm worried that I'm just missing something. | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:39 Breshke wrote: YES SOMEONE SEES THE LIGHTI read scotts filter and don't understand why he is voting GB and not me Plus maybe I'm not lynching Shapelog because of his claim, but I don't really want to vote with him.... @rsoultin, in simple words, trolling Palmar is town Palmar. Surely you remember this. You may not agree, and yes it's simple, but as a general rule it's a real thing. | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:44 rsoultin wrote: Okay, so why isn't it that simple? My read on Palmar has been pretty good ever since probably Linux/Assassination mafia, unless I'm being selective with my memory.Show nested quote + On February 18 2016 05:41 Trfel wrote: On February 18 2016 05:39 Breshke wrote: YES SOMEONE SEES THE LIGHTI read scotts filter and don't understand why he is voting GB and not me Plus maybe I'm not lynching Shapelog because of his claim, but I don't really want to vote with him.... @rsoultin, in simple words, trolling Palmar is town Palmar. Surely you remember this. You may not agree, and yes it's simple, but as a general rule it's a real thing. o.0 yeah um...no. like seriously, just no. if palmar were that easy to read i'd already have a godread on him @bresh...the only thing i could think of was that gb had a wagon on him and you and tumble didn't, but since he started the wagon it makes no sense I mean, okay, it's not quite that simple, but that's the basic idea. Can you show me a game of Palmar's Linux/Down Under level trolling where he is mafia? | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:47 rsoultin wrote: If you're talking about Outlaw, which I assume you are, then I read him as mafia in that game Show nested quote + On February 18 2016 05:45 Trfel wrote: On February 18 2016 05:44 rsoultin wrote: Okay, so why isn't it that simple? My read on Palmar has been pretty good ever since probably Linux/Assassination mafia, unless I'm being selective with my memory.On February 18 2016 05:41 Trfel wrote: On February 18 2016 05:39 Breshke wrote: YES SOMEONE SEES THE LIGHTI read scotts filter and don't understand why he is voting GB and not me Plus maybe I'm not lynching Shapelog because of his claim, but I don't really want to vote with him.... @rsoultin, in simple words, trolling Palmar is town Palmar. Surely you remember this. You may not agree, and yes it's simple, but as a general rule it's a real thing. o.0 yeah um...no. like seriously, just no. if palmar were that easy to read i'd already have a godread on him @bresh...the only thing i could think of was that gb had a wagon on him and you and tumble didn't, but since he started the wagon it makes no sense I mean, okay, it's not quite that simple, but that's the basic idea. Can you show me a game of Palmar's Linux/Down Under level trolling where he is mafia? specifically that level? dunnae...he just fooled me his last scum game though where i thought he seemed pretty town for the not give a fucks ![]() His trolling wasn't on the same level as the "interview" joke, or the three Palmars talking to each other. And his reads were more of a "standard" approach, aka giving reasons and then making reads based on those reasons. Again, the way he dropped his Breshke read makes no sense, but at the same time I don't feel very confident at all in lynching him, I'd still say he's more likely town. Given how this is gone I just want to cut losses, and scott31337 is a good lynch. | ||
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Anyway, I really feel that scott31337 is a decent lynch for both lynching mafia and not screwing up bigtime. Palmar is #1 in the power rankings, you don't lynch him for awful reasons when the day is going like this. | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:54 rsoultin wrote: If Palmar is scum, he'll go down later. I don't feel like Palmar can escape this if he is scum. He should never have escaped in Outlaw anyway.Show nested quote + On February 18 2016 05:51 Trfel wrote: On February 18 2016 05:47 rsoultin wrote: If you're talking about Outlaw, which I assume you are, then I read him as mafia in that game On February 18 2016 05:45 Trfel wrote: On February 18 2016 05:44 rsoultin wrote: Okay, so why isn't it that simple? My read on Palmar has been pretty good ever since probably Linux/Assassination mafia, unless I'm being selective with my memory.On February 18 2016 05:41 Trfel wrote: On February 18 2016 05:39 Breshke wrote: YES SOMEONE SEES THE LIGHTI read scotts filter and don't understand why he is voting GB and not me Plus maybe I'm not lynching Shapelog because of his claim, but I don't really want to vote with him.... @rsoultin, in simple words, trolling Palmar is town Palmar. Surely you remember this. You may not agree, and yes it's simple, but as a general rule it's a real thing. o.0 yeah um...no. like seriously, just no. if palmar were that easy to read i'd already have a godread on him @bresh...the only thing i could think of was that gb had a wagon on him and you and tumble didn't, but since he started the wagon it makes no sense I mean, okay, it's not quite that simple, but that's the basic idea. Can you show me a game of Palmar's Linux/Down Under level trolling where he is mafia? specifically that level? dunnae...he just fooled me his last scum game though where i thought he seemed pretty town for the not give a fucks ![]() His trolling wasn't on the same level as the "interview" joke, or the three Palmars talking to each other. And his reads were more of a "standard" approach, aka giving reasons and then making reads based on those reasons. Again, the way he dropped his Breshke read makes no sense, but at the same time I don't feel very confident at all in lynching him, I'd still say he's more likely town. Given how this is gone I just want to cut losses, and scott31337 is a good lynch. nh :/ fine lol yolo...but i blame you if palmar turns out to be scum. you'll like...have to grovel at me and idk play a game with lex and myself later THE HORROR! But if he's town, like I feel is more likely, I'd really like him alive. | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:56 GlowingBear wrote: But why are you calling him scum is the question?Like seriously, there is no reason to call Kush town here VOTE KUSH I don't really know why he's scum. | ||
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