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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 22:56 GMT
#1761
I mean, if you have any thoughts and/or preferences I'm very interested?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 23:27 GMT
#1763
On February 25 2016 08:25 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 07:56 Trfel wrote:
I mean, if you have any thoughts and/or preferences I'm very interested?

but you think the two mafia are breshke and tt right?
I feel like this is most likely, but I'm still not too confident in it. Especially since I haven't seriously looked into Breshke yet. I have seriously looked into Tictock, but I'm not 100% sure yet.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 25 2016 01:33 GMT
#1768
@Tumblewood: you say that my reads are well-reasoned, but earlier you were criticizing my reads (like my Palmar read and my Eden read)? What changed?

@Tictock: if you don't mind, I'd like to go back to this.

So when you went into that tinfoil post, before it you were thinking that scott31337 was town because the Day 1 votes suggested Town vs Town. Then you decided that making this conclusion was bad before you read more carefully, right?

So, I'm assuming that by the end of the tinfoil post, you'd read everything? So, what was your conclusion about scott31337's alignment, and why? And how and why did your previous read on the Day 1 lynch being town vs town change?

And yes, I will keep being obnoxious with questions until I figure out who is mafia
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 25 2016 02:57 GMT
#1771
On February 25 2016 11:04 Tumblewood wrote:
Trfel, your D1 reads are allowed to be bad because we had 0 flips or claims, and little filter to use.
Do you mind providing one or two examples of reads that you feel make me town this game?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 25 2016 03:26 GMT
#1773
Thanks for answering.

How about, your turn? Do you have any questions for me, anything you'd like to bring up again, anything you'd like to discuss?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 25 2016 19:40 GMT
#1824
On February 26 2016 04:35 boxerfred wrote:
/out something unforseeable happend
Lol?

Nooniansoong, I don't get why you've been saying that Tictock and Breshke are mafia for a while, and you largely ignore me in my discussions last night, and suddenly decide that Tictock is town. Why wasn't this anything you would have liked to talk about last night? And what are your actual reasons, or is it just "mafia is the least suspected people"?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 25 2016 19:46 GMT
#1827
I'd really prefer to lynch today if possible. Reason being that in less than 24 hours I will be leaving, and I'll probably barely be present after that. I'm worried that if we no-lynch, I might get modkilled, and that would be a really stupid way to end the game.

Yes, I screwed up. Yes, it was really stupid. Yes, I'm sorry. But I'd still prefer to cut my losses.

If you're fine with no-lynching, thus going into LYLO with me barely being present, then I guess that works, but I don't think it's smart, especially since rsoultin's schedule also works better with no-lynching.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 25 2016 19:48 GMT
#1828
And nooniansoong, I haven't made an actual case, or actually pushed anything (except the scott lynch at the end of Day 1). Believe me, when it comes time for a case and a push, you'll know
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 25 2016 19:55 GMT
#1831
On February 26 2016 04:50 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2016 04:46 Trfel wrote:
I'd really prefer to lynch today if possible. Reason being that in less than 24 hours I will be leaving, and I'll probably barely be present after that. I'm worried that if we no-lynch, I might get modkilled, and that would be a really stupid way to end the game.

Yes, I screwed up. Yes, it was really stupid. Yes, I'm sorry. But I'd still prefer to cut my losses.

If you're fine with no-lynching, thus going into LYLO with me barely being present, then I guess that works, but I don't think it's smart, especially since rsoultin's schedule also works better with no-lynching.


Ok, well assuming we HAVE to lynch today then.

If I were suddenly mod-killed or whatever, who would you be voting for?
No idea. Currently I think that Tumblewood is town and you are mafia, but I haven't been able to look too closely at anyone else yet.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 25 2016 20:01 GMT
#1833
Glad to know what you think my priorities should be

My top priority right now is catching up in my classes. You know, because I've been sick and unable to go to class. I think I found one scum and have presented reasons, and I'm more than willing to discuss this read with anyone (including them). We're only allowed one lynch per day.

I'll look at Breshke eventually, but on my time, not yours.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 25 2016 20:05 GMT
#1836
On February 26 2016 05:02 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2016 05:01 Trfel wrote:
Glad to know what you think my priorities should be

My top priority right now is catching up in my classes. You know, because I've been sick and unable to go to class. I think I found one scum and have presented reasons, and I'm more than willing to discuss this read with anyone (including them). We're only allowed one lynch per day.

I'll look at Breshke eventually, but on my time, not yours.


i mean in terms of who you are looking at in the game. Not over real life. Don't get snippy with me.
Seeing as I clearly said that I would look into Breshke last night, , I don't see what your point is.

On February 26 2016 04:40 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2016 04:35 boxerfred wrote:
/out something unforseeable happend
Lol?

Nooniansoong, I don't get why you've been saying that Tictock and Breshke are mafia for a while, and you largely ignore me in my discussions last night, and suddenly decide that Tictock is town. Why wasn't this anything you would have liked to talk about last night? And what are your actual reasons, or is it just "mafia is the least suspected people"?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 25 2016 20:27 GMT
#1839
Tictock, I'm not sure I understand. To me, your post made me feel more suspicious of Breshke, not less, as you say.

You feel that he is town because of how he interacted with Shapelog, and because he didn't talk about his read on sicklucker before he died, right? Did I miss anything?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 25 2016 20:38 GMT
#1840
On February 26 2016 05:27 Trfel wrote:
Tictock, I'm not sure I understand. To me, your post made me feel more suspicious of Breshke, not less, as you say.

You feel that he is town because of how he interacted with Shapelog, and because he didn't talk about his read on sicklucker before he died, right? Did I miss anything?
Well, I'm heading out for a while, but I don't see much reason to go one way or the other on Breshke based on the posts you quoted. And mafia wouldn't want to share their read on someone who they're about to nightkill because it's less efficient than sharing a read on someone who will still be alive, a read which you'd have the opportunity to use later.

Basically, I feel that both of those reasons are extremely poor. And how this affects your read on Breshke, or if you disagree with my statements.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 26 2016 02:46 GMT
#1844
On February 26 2016 11:41 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm seeing all of these posts on breshke and realizing more and more that my scumread on him is really weak. I'd switch back to a no-lynch, but that could end up costing us the game with Trfel 's situation, so I'm going to tictock.
+more reasons coming later, I'm phoneposting right now
When you get back, these posts about Breshke that you refer to, aren't they posts by Tictock?

If these posts are good enough to make you want to not lynch Breshke, why would this make you want to lynch the person who posted them?

Maybe Tumblewood is mafia after all.....
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 26 2016 03:41 GMT
#1846
On February 26 2016 12:04 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2016 11:46 Trfel wrote:
On February 26 2016 11:41 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm seeing all of these posts on breshke and realizing more and more that my scumread on him is really weak. I'd switch back to a no-lynch, but that could end up costing us the game with Trfel 's situation, so I'm going to tictock.
+more reasons coming later, I'm phoneposting right now
When you get back, these posts about Breshke that you refer to, aren't they posts by Tictock?

If these posts are good enough to make you want to not lynch Breshke, why would this make you want to lynch the person who posted them?

Maybe Tumblewood is mafia after all.....

Idk where this notion is coming from that I can't agree with someone if also I think they're scum. I'm not thinking this because TT said it, I'm thinking about it because he said it and coming to the same conclusion.
Sorry, to clarify, are you agreeing with Tictock in his conclusions only or in the arguments he used to arrive at his conclusion (the conclusion being that Breshke is town)?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 26 2016 04:49 GMT
#1851
On February 26 2016 13:44 rsoultin wrote:
blah truffle wuffle, you're not scum are you?

that would make me randomly proud and sad at the same time lol ><

like either this game is really super fucking easy and we're all over-analyzing everything and wifoming our way into stupid, or noon and/or truffle are playing kick-ass scum games
I'm not scum

I'm currently thinking that it's Tictock and then one of Breshke/nooniansoong, I guess. Heavily leaning towards Breshke over nooniansoong, but I haven't closely looks at either of them.

I could just be completely missing the mark, though, help?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 26 2016 04:49 GMT
#1852
On February 26 2016 12:48 Tumblewood wrote:
I wasn't convinced by his arguments, I was pushed to reexamine my read and decided that my cues on Breshke were not as damming as I thought.
Thanks, this makes sense.

I worry that I fed this out to you, though Paranoia check time.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 26 2016 04:52 GMT
#1854
On February 26 2016 13:50 rsoultin wrote:
nh...so the sudden read flip on noon's part...

that comes from looking through his scum game to see if he had static reads or not? <- need clarification lol ><

tbf tt's scumread on you makes a fair amount of sense

tch

the problem with tumble being scum is then i'm living in a world where scum is bussing each other to oblivion OR i'm misreading truffle >< fuck

sidenote: tt pushing tumble is totally what he has to do if he's scum, though ^^
So why is it not Tictock/Breshke? They're not bussing each other? Am I misreading?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 26 2016 04:54 GMT
#1857
Okay, so my paranoia check on Tumblewood showed that Tumblewood's scumread on Breshke is primarily based on Breshke's lack of activity lately. Which is something that has been discussed in the time of Tumblewood's read change.

It makes sense, even if it doesn't feel quite right to me? Meh. Not going to worry about it for now.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 26 2016 04:59 GMT
#1859
I mean, Palmar said that Breshke is mafia.

If we don't lynch Breshke and he wins, Palmar gets to taunt us forever. Is that really what we want?

Seriously though, Breshke's filter may "only" be six pages, but that takes a while to go through I'll see how far I get.

Anyway, I guess you don't like my non-association, independent reasons for Tictock being mafia?
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