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On January 16 2016 17:17 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2016 16:52 Holyflare wrote:
Well initially I was annoyed and then I didn't like that ritoky and damdred didn't respond to anything meaningfully or even post responses and so I wanted to vote damdred for not even engaging me = mafia.
But then trfel came and posted that post which was ridiculous.
##vote trfel
And I would absolutely write everything i wrote as mafia so anyone even thinking it makes me an alignment is dumb or mafia (trfel). In relation to what was happening. Get with it Rayn.
And a bit later Holyflare says Trfel looks much better now since raynpelikoneet is mafia. He even claims later on that he hasn't lied a single time in this game so if that is true (which you seem to think since you think he is town) then it should also be true for you Holyflare thinks Trfel is not mafia.
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Read the thread properly if you wanna have a productive discussion.
You probably won't because you are scum. Nothing you say makes any sense.
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On January 17 2016 01:17 Holyflare wrote:
Ve and palmar both seem to think there's a vigilante, coincidence?
I also think there is a vigilante.
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On January 17 2016 01:18 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:17 Holyflare wrote:
Ve and palmar both seem to think there's a vigilante, coincidence? I also think there is a vigilante. Coincidence?
No we probably just read the OP.
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On January 17 2016 01:19 Holyflare wrote:
I have already said where i think you are lying.
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On January 17 2016 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
ftfy
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unless you ofc for some reason want to do a countdown to EOD -1 hour.
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On January 17 2016 01:21 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:19 Holyflare wrote:On January 16 2016 23:15 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn tell me where I lied I have already said where i think you are lying. Explain it again then trash panda. What did I lie about. Why aren't you trying to get me lynched if i obviously lied and am mafia.
I don't think i can explain that more clearly than i already did.
I believe you had an intention to quit the game. You claim otherwise.
I don't believe you, i don't believe you in that you had on intention to quit the game when you made your first two posts.
As you claim you didn't, it naturally makes the post that says " /out " a lie, or it makes the post where you say you didn't have an intention to quit a lie. Now i don't believe this because if you are town it's a fucking dick move and i don't want to believe you made a dick move. It's a dick move as mafia too, but it's a bit less of a dick move.
It's a dick move because you are talking about shit that doesn't have anything to do with playing a mafia game, and if you are town there is no reason to expect you are lying (there really isn't as mafia aswell given your rl situation), but still. If you are town it confirms you as town if you are telling the truth.
The game is fucking invalid if you are town and i dont' wanna play an invalid game, i'd rather start on D2 with 8vs3. Because if i believe here, that you are telling the truth and town -- then you are fucking confirmed town and nothing you or anyone ever does is gonna change that opinion.
Yes, i am not 100% certain you are mafia, you could also be a dick. But i am voting for you since, again, if i believe you are town here, you are confirmed town and the game is invalid.
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EBWOP:
if you are town there is no reason to expect you are lying in your first two posts of the game (there really isn't as mafia aswell given your rl situation), but still. If you are town it confirms you as town if you are telling the truth.
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And now i am actually done discussing this issue.
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On January 17 2016 01:26 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, any thoughts on NocturneMage?
I think you should probably first answer this:
On January 15 2016 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote:Meh, here goes nothing. AlotSomuch is townOn January 15 2016 09:09 AlotSomuch wrote:
Think you missed your chance there HoleyFlair I don't feel like this is a post that is natural for mafia to make. In addition to taunting Holyflare, he intentionally messes with his name. Assuming for the moment that Holyflare is town, scum doesn't want to aggravate Holyflare unnecessarily, doing so in this case has no mafia motivation. This is even more crappy read than the one on ritoky to be honest. I don't think there is any way Trfel to come to this conclusion as town because this post basically says that Alot's actions are townie because he would not want to aggravate town!Holyflare (which he doesn't even necessarily think is the case here -- since this reads post, orhis other posts doesn't include a townread on Holyflare). Not to even mention Alot has never played with Holyflare earlier so there is no reason to think the thought process is legit in the first place EVEN IF Holyflare was town.
I am sorry but i don't really feel like answering you since i think you are scum unless you can reasonably explain this and i don't really feel like arguing with scum about their scumreads.
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On January 17 2016 01:41 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:26 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, any thoughts on NocturneMage? I think you should probably first answer this: On January 15 2016 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 15 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote:Meh, here goes nothing. AlotSomuch is townOn January 15 2016 09:09 AlotSomuch wrote:
Think you missed your chance there HoleyFlair I don't feel like this is a post that is natural for mafia to make. In addition to taunting Holyflare, he intentionally messes with his name. Assuming for the moment that Holyflare is town, scum doesn't want to aggravate Holyflare unnecessarily, doing so in this case has no mafia motivation. This is even more crappy read than the one on ritoky to be honest. I don't think there is any way Trfel to come to this conclusion as town because this post basically says that Alot's actions are townie because he would not want to aggravate town!Holyflare (which he doesn't even necessarily think is the case here -- since this reads post, orhis other posts doesn't include a townread on Holyflare). Not to even mention Alot has never played with Holyflare earlier so there is no reason to think the thought process is legit in the first place EVEN IF Holyflare was town. I am sorry but i don't really feel like answering you since i think you are scum unless you can reasonably explain this and i don't really feel like arguing with scum about their scumreads. When I make reads, I generally assume that everyone else is town. This is because my reads suck and I only remember one time where I had multiple scumreads at once and at least two were actually scum. Second, I assumed (apparently incorrectly) that AlotSomuch was a smurf from TL mafia.
But your read is based mostly on Holyflare being town which you didn't think was the case at the time!!
It is an associative reads which is terrible in the first place and even the association does not hold up in your mind (since basically the next post of yours is a case on Holyflare being mafia.......)
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Alot is there a reason why you do not agree with my case on Trfel?
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On January 17 2016 01:50 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:41 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:26 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, any thoughts on NocturneMage? I think you should probably first answer this: On January 15 2016 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 15 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote:Meh, here goes nothing. AlotSomuch is townOn January 15 2016 09:09 AlotSomuch wrote:
Think you missed your chance there HoleyFlair I don't feel like this is a post that is natural for mafia to make. In addition to taunting Holyflare, he intentionally messes with his name. Assuming for the moment that Holyflare is town, scum doesn't want to aggravate Holyflare unnecessarily, doing so in this case has no mafia motivation. This is even more crappy read than the one on ritoky to be honest. I don't think there is any way Trfel to come to this conclusion as town because this post basically says that Alot's actions are townie because he would not want to aggravate town!Holyflare (which he doesn't even necessarily think is the case here -- since this reads post, orhis other posts doesn't include a townread on Holyflare). Not to even mention Alot has never played with Holyflare earlier so there is no reason to think the thought process is legit in the first place EVEN IF Holyflare was town. I am sorry but i don't really feel like answering you since i think you are scum unless you can reasonably explain this and i don't really feel like arguing with scum about their scumreads. When I make reads, I generally assume that everyone else is town. This is because my reads suck and I only remember one time where I had multiple scumreads at once and at least two were actually scum. Second, I assumed (apparently incorrectly) that AlotSomuch was a smurf from TL mafia. But your read is based mostly on Holyflare being town which you didn't think was the case at the time!!It is an associative reads which is terrible in the first place and even the association does not hold up in your mind (since basically the next post of yours is a case on Holyflare being mafia.......) I actually had a small town lean on Holyflare at the time. I just didn't think he was confirmed town.
Can you explain which posts made you think Holyflare is more likely to be town than mafia at that time?
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On January 17 2016 01:56 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:50 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:41 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:26 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, any thoughts on NocturneMage? I think you should probably first answer this: On January 15 2016 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 15 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote:Meh, here goes nothing. AlotSomuch is townOn January 15 2016 09:09 AlotSomuch wrote:
Think you missed your chance there HoleyFlair I don't feel like this is a post that is natural for mafia to make. In addition to taunting Holyflare, he intentionally messes with his name. Assuming for the moment that Holyflare is town, scum doesn't want to aggravate Holyflare unnecessarily, doing so in this case has no mafia motivation. This is even more crappy read than the one on ritoky to be honest. I don't think there is any way Trfel to come to this conclusion as town because this post basically says that Alot's actions are townie because he would not want to aggravate town!Holyflare (which he doesn't even necessarily think is the case here -- since this reads post, orhis other posts doesn't include a townread on Holyflare). Not to even mention Alot has never played with Holyflare earlier so there is no reason to think the thought process is legit in the first place EVEN IF Holyflare was town. I am sorry but i don't really feel like answering you since i think you are scum unless you can reasonably explain this and i don't really feel like arguing with scum about their scumreads. When I make reads, I generally assume that everyone else is town. This is because my reads suck and I only remember one time where I had multiple scumreads at once and at least two were actually scum. Second, I assumed (apparently incorrectly) that AlotSomuch was a smurf from TL mafia. But your read is based mostly on Holyflare being town which you didn't think was the case at the time!!It is an associative reads which is terrible in the first place and even the association does not hold up in your mind (since basically the next post of yours is a case on Holyflare being mafia.......) I actually had a small town lean on Holyflare at the time. I just didn't think he was confirmed town. Can you explain which posts made you think Holyflare is more likely to be town than mafia at that time? Show nested quote +On January 15 2016 10:29 Holyflare wrote:
Let me tell you a story about something I encounter in day to day work.
This is a story about consent and the lack thereof.
Consent is the permission for something to take place. Commonly consent is used in regards to a sexual nature and lack of consent leads to a charge called rape.
The serious thing about consent is that it can be given or taken away at ANY time and equally importantly if you consent ONCE it does not mean you consent EVERY time.
This is where the game falls flat. I consented to be in one game and theorised that because I am so good and have little time that I will either roll town and die n1 or roll mafia and have an afk excuse. Now, that game I consented to is gone and in this game the days don't align with me and I'm just not feeling the sexual arousal needed so you did not have my consent.
The hosts have raped me.
Mostly this thing, I've seen Holyflare do things like this before as town (or third party playing like town) but never as mafia. Holyflare is generally a bit more to the point as mafia, from my experience. I started scumreading Holyflare based on what he did when he started playing the game a bit more seriously.
Actually judging from your case you started scumreading Holyflare when he made his vote on Damdred....
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On January 17 2016 02:01 AlotSomuch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 01:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alot is there a reason why you do not agree with my case on Trfel? Had to go all the way back to the beginning to find which case you were specifically talking about (back to page 6). I agree with your point on his post, and it is part of the reason I voted and am still voting him. It's a suspicious post. I'm saying he's made some better posts throughout the day. I'm still suspicious, which is why I haven't unvoted and want to keep him as the secondary wagon, but I'm also getting more suspicious of Holeyflair. Votes currently stand at 3 votes on Holey, 2 votes on trifle. I'm ok with that right now, and I'm kind of expecting you to switch to Trifle if you feel he is the more likely scum right before EOD.
Is there any other posts you like except the posts on Holyflare?
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On January 17 2016 02:02 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:56 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:50 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:41 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:26 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, any thoughts on NocturneMage? I think you should probably first answer this: On January 15 2016 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 15 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote:
Meh, here goes nothing.
AlotSomuch is town
[quote]I don't feel like this is a post that is natural for mafia to make. In addition to taunting Holyflare, he intentionally messes with his name. Assuming for the moment that Holyflare is town, scum doesn't want to aggravate Holyflare unnecessarily, doing so in this case has no mafia motivation.
This is even more crappy read than the one on ritoky to be honest. I don't think there is any way Trfel to come to this conclusion as town because this post basically says that Alot's actions are townie because he would not want to aggravate town!Holyflare (which he doesn't even necessarily think is the case here -- since this reads post, orhis other posts doesn't include a townread on Holyflare). Not to even mention Alot has never played with Holyflare earlier so there is no reason to think the thought process is legit in the first place EVEN IF Holyflare was town. I am sorry but i don't really feel like answering you since i think you are scum unless you can reasonably explain this and i don't really feel like arguing with scum about their scumreads. When I make reads, I generally assume that everyone else is town. This is because my reads suck and I only remember one time where I had multiple scumreads at once and at least two were actually scum. Second, I assumed (apparently incorrectly) that AlotSomuch was a smurf from TL mafia. But your read is based mostly on Holyflare being town which you didn't think was the case at the time!!It is an associative reads which is terrible in the first place and even the association does not hold up in your mind (since basically the next post of yours is a case on Holyflare being mafia.......) I actually had a small town lean on Holyflare at the time. I just didn't think he was confirmed town. Can you explain which posts made you think Holyflare is more likely to be town than mafia at that time? On January 15 2016 10:29 Holyflare wrote:
Let me tell you a story about something I encounter in day to day work.
This is a story about consent and the lack thereof.
Consent is the permission for something to take place. Commonly consent is used in regards to a sexual nature and lack of consent leads to a charge called rape.
The serious thing about consent is that it can be given or taken away at ANY time and equally importantly if you consent ONCE it does not mean you consent EVERY time.
This is where the game falls flat. I consented to be in one game and theorised that because I am so good and have little time that I will either roll town and die n1 or roll mafia and have an afk excuse. Now, that game I consented to is gone and in this game the days don't align with me and I'm just not feeling the sexual arousal needed so you did not have my consent.
The hosts have raped me.
Mostly this thing, I've seen Holyflare do things like this before as town (or third party playing like town) but never as mafia. Holyflare is generally a bit more to the point as mafia, from my experience. I started scumreading Holyflare based on what he did when he started playing the game a bit more seriously. Actually judging from your case you started scumreading Holyflare when he made his vote on Damdred.... This is not true at all, what gives you this idea?
It is a part of your case. Unless you decided to quote a post in your case which is NOT part of your case.
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Well who do you think should be lynched Damdred?
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On January 17 2016 01:56 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:50 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:41 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:26 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, any thoughts on NocturneMage? I think you should probably first answer this: On January 15 2016 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 15 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote:Meh, here goes nothing. AlotSomuch is townOn January 15 2016 09:09 AlotSomuch wrote:
Think you missed your chance there HoleyFlair I don't feel like this is a post that is natural for mafia to make. In addition to taunting Holyflare, he intentionally messes with his name. Assuming for the moment that Holyflare is town, scum doesn't want to aggravate Holyflare unnecessarily, doing so in this case has no mafia motivation. This is even more crappy read than the one on ritoky to be honest. I don't think there is any way Trfel to come to this conclusion as town because this post basically says that Alot's actions are townie because he would not want to aggravate town!Holyflare (which he doesn't even necessarily think is the case here -- since this reads post, orhis other posts doesn't include a townread on Holyflare). Not to even mention Alot has never played with Holyflare earlier so there is no reason to think the thought process is legit in the first place EVEN IF Holyflare was town. I am sorry but i don't really feel like answering you since i think you are scum unless you can reasonably explain this and i don't really feel like arguing with scum about their scumreads. When I make reads, I generally assume that everyone else is town. This is because my reads suck and I only remember one time where I had multiple scumreads at once and at least two were actually scum. Second, I assumed (apparently incorrectly) that AlotSomuch was a smurf from TL mafia. But your read is based mostly on Holyflare being town which you didn't think was the case at the time!!It is an associative reads which is terrible in the first place and even the association does not hold up in your mind (since basically the next post of yours is a case on Holyflare being mafia.......) I actually had a small town lean on Holyflare at the time. I just didn't think he was confirmed town. Can you explain which posts made you think Holyflare is more likely to be town than mafia at that time? Show nested quote +On January 15 2016 10:29 Holyflare wrote:
Let me tell you a story about something I encounter in day to day work.
This is a story about consent and the lack thereof.
Consent is the permission for something to take place. Commonly consent is used in regards to a sexual nature and lack of consent leads to a charge called rape.
The serious thing about consent is that it can be given or taken away at ANY time and equally importantly if you consent ONCE it does not mean you consent EVERY time.
This is where the game falls flat. I consented to be in one game and theorised that because I am so good and have little time that I will either roll town and die n1 or roll mafia and have an afk excuse. Now, that game I consented to is gone and in this game the days don't align with me and I'm just not feeling the sexual arousal needed so you did not have my consent.
The hosts have raped me.
Mostly this thing, I've seen Holyflare do things like this before as town (or third party playing like town) but never as mafia. Holyflare is generally a bit more to the point as mafia, from my experience. I started scumreading Holyflare based on what he did when he started playing the game a bit more seriously.
How the fuck can you come to a conclusion this could be alignment indicative in ANY way????
Especially in the direction you claim.
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So you like townread him for not doing anything (=playing properly) and when he continued doing anything (=not playing properly) then you scumread him for it?
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