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On January 16 2016 06:32 Palmar wrote:
alot is just bad or troll
I am never changing my vote from HF while he's being a little bitch. If I change it, it'll be to trfel who is mafia.
I prefer lynching little crying bitches over mafia though.
On January 17 2016 00:37 Palmar wrote:
we're 100% lynching hf and shooting trfel
I'm not really gonna read anything until they're both dead.
I'm here on the laptop. Finally.
Alright, spiel on Palmar. Okay with his first point against Trfel, but here's what I don't like - why go for a policy lynch (from what I'm reading) over a scum lynch and furthermore, why is he banking on a role that may or may not shoot Trfel depending on how he's read?
There are a lot of lurkers and others in the eyes of some of the other players have reason to be shot, hence a shot on Trfel is not necessarily guaranteed.
Additionally in both cases both players are players who can more easily be read in subsequent days, it's not like HF is lurking and not able to be read. So I don't get that either.
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Because palmar's best day is day 1 unless he's mafia when it's not.
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Also something additional in Trfel's filter I recall being possibly mafia indicative, it was related to his change on reads in ritoky. And the criteria he was using in shifting those reads between ritoky and myself using disinterest....checking that now...
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I do like how nm is totally ignoring me and just doing his own thing.
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On January 17 2016 05:55 Holyflare wrote:
Because palmar's best day is day 1 unless he's mafia when it's not.
From another ongoing game I cannot mention this was brought up where he finds mafia day 1, here in this game, he has Trfel as mafia yet doesn't vote for him, so I am trying to figure out what he gets (from his view) out of a HF lynch, like what, information? not if people (from what I see Damdred, DYH) are saying, whoops no, let's just get HF out of the way via policy. Given other possible candidates I think it's a cop out unless they are legit scumreading you.
In any case I'm still catching up with the thread.
atm I can't see any possible town motivation from Palmar, so atm can switch to him if town want to consolidate on him.
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On January 17 2016 05:56 Damdred wrote:
I do like how nm is totally ignoring me and just doing his own thing.
???????
On January 17 2016 04:49 Damdred wrote:
Nm while it a true full metal for trfel did sort of fit into two I don't think that this fits exactly. At a certain point trfel just gave up that game.
Not sure about here exactly cared a bot more about getting heard want to say town still.
Something about geript makes me sorta say don't lynch today either.
HF even though I think he flips town might just be the lynch to avoid distraction this game.
But I want people's opinions elsewhere.
I was getting there?
If I missed something else you said, quote it.
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Doesn't mean I'm not going to point out other things I don't like but still.
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On January 16 2016 06:27 ritoky wrote:
in terms of game stuff i think hf and ve are town
there's also a vast difference in palmar and rayn's interactions which suggests to me that rayn probably isn't mafia unless he is with palmar.
On January 17 2016 05:38 ritoky wrote:
i kinda wanna sheep VE this phase
ritoky might be disinterested, but gut call based on these two quotes, and my read on VE, makes me think ritoky warrants a townlean here.
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You will have to explain that one a lot more
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I though I agreed with points he made last game. Maybe I'm misremembering. I though all he's done this game was vote for HF and male throwaway posts. I'll check me fax and get back with you.
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Just went through Ace's filter. I do not know how he normally plays as either alignment but overall impression from the filter is someone who is just laying back and in the event of a mislynch, we can conclude he's allowing town to destroy itself. Just seems disconnected from the thread, not clear on why he's scumreading HF (175/293 - not a policy lynch).
178 can come from either alignment. 175, the Palmar still doing town stuff allegedly part, I don't know why he doesn't just zero in on Palmar and take a stance one way or another.
But just looking at his filter, not knowing anything else, I'd say it warrants a scumlean.
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Ya okay he can live I guess. My vote is still on Trfel in spirit.
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Ace will not give his alignment away this phase. If you want to phaer lynch him that's fine, but he's good enough to hang back and be a mislynch target as town and represent doing so as mafia. We need info to see if he says things that give away his intentions later.
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On January 17 2016 06:10 Damdred wrote:
You will have to explain that one a lot more
I'll assume that's on my post on ritoky. Sure. Disinterest can come from either alignment, so I'm going to disregard that or any possible meta (my only exp with ritoky is two scum games, I've never had a town game with ritoky)
It's a shit associative read - but
It appears he's townreading VE and recognising a town and who to sheep is a town trait (yeh I realise you can sheep as mafia for shite reasons too but,....)
second, from his first post, he's not townreading Palmar. neither is/was VE, hence the connection. additionally Palmar's wanting to policy lynch over Trfel for what purpose I don't know.
like I said it might be a shitty heuristic, obviously if Palmar flips town then I have to re-evaluate.
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On January 17 2016 06:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
I though I agreed with points he made last game. Maybe I'm misremembering. I though all he's done this game was vote for HF and male throwaway posts. I'll check me fax and get back with you.
On January 17 2016 06:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ya okay he can live I guess. My vote is still on Trfel in spirit.
Except that's the thing. That's really all that Palmar has done - posts 150/212.
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Well if he gets his way that's all he has to do. HF certainly isn't hurting Palmar's chances of getting him lynched.
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Here's the thing.
I don't think that's enough to town read Ritoky on. For example,he has several scum games where he pushes the responsibility on someone else who is town. Down under I think he did this and he did it in a ongoing game which I can't talk about.
So I don't get your town read and your lack of suspicion about him after playing with two scum rut is a bit disconcerting especially when I want to tr you.
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Like I'll vote for him if he's still singing the same song at lynch time. Raym is right, either way if he doesn't care he's a good lynch.
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ASM's post, last 5-6 of his filter come off to me as a townie that just isn't confident.
Read specifically posts 254, 275, 286 and 290. I can see easily where he's grappling between Trfel and Holyflare despite him saying that Trfel's initial posts make him sceptical of what he's posted since, and the case on HF appears partially to be based on a pre-associative flip, which he seems aware of. In any case, he's showing he's thinking it through and making the best possible judgement with what he has in front of him.
DYH and Cephiro atm are coinflips, obvious, but there it is...
Right now, I'll take a re-look at Trfel and rayn interactions, etc and see if I missed anything.
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