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On January 17 2016 01:21 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:19 Holyflare wrote:On January 16 2016 23:15 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn tell me where I lied I have already said where i think you are lying. Explain it again then trash panda. What did I lie about. Why aren't you trying to get me lynched if i obviously lied and am mafia.
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On January 17 2016 01:21 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:19 Holyflare wrote:On January 16 2016 23:15 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn tell me where I lied I have already said where i think you are lying. Explain it again then trash panda. What did I lie about. Why aren't you trying to get me lynched if i obviously lied and am mafia.
I don't think i can explain that more clearly than i already did.
I believe you had an intention to quit the game. You claim otherwise.
I don't believe you, i don't believe you in that you had on intention to quit the game when you made your first two posts.
As you claim you didn't, it naturally makes the post that says " /out " a lie, or it makes the post where you say you didn't have an intention to quit a lie. Now i don't believe this because if you are town it's a fucking dick move and i don't want to believe you made a dick move. It's a dick move as mafia too, but it's a bit less of a dick move.
It's a dick move because you are talking about shit that doesn't have anything to do with playing a mafia game, and if you are town there is no reason to expect you are lying (there really isn't as mafia aswell given your rl situation), but still. If you are town it confirms you as town if you are telling the truth.
The game is fucking invalid if you are town and i dont' wanna play an invalid game, i'd rather start on D2 with 8vs3. Because if i believe here, that you are telling the truth and town -- then you are fucking confirmed town and nothing you or anyone ever does is gonna change that opinion.
Yes, i am not 100% certain you are mafia, you could also be a dick. But i am voting for you since, again, if i believe you are town here, you are confirmed town and the game is invalid.
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EBWOP:
if you are town there is no reason to expect you are lying in your first two posts of the game (there really isn't as mafia aswell given your rl situation), but still. If you are town it confirms you as town if you are telling the truth.
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And now i am actually done discussing this issue.
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On January 17 2016 01:26 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, any thoughts on NocturneMage?
I think you should probably first answer this:
On January 15 2016 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote:Meh, here goes nothing. AlotSomuch is townOn January 15 2016 09:09 AlotSomuch wrote:
Think you missed your chance there HoleyFlair I don't feel like this is a post that is natural for mafia to make. In addition to taunting Holyflare, he intentionally messes with his name. Assuming for the moment that Holyflare is town, scum doesn't want to aggravate Holyflare unnecessarily, doing so in this case has no mafia motivation. This is even more crappy read than the one on ritoky to be honest. I don't think there is any way Trfel to come to this conclusion as town because this post basically says that Alot's actions are townie because he would not want to aggravate town!Holyflare (which he doesn't even necessarily think is the case here -- since this reads post, orhis other posts doesn't include a townread on Holyflare). Not to even mention Alot has never played with Holyflare earlier so there is no reason to think the thought process is legit in the first place EVEN IF Holyflare was town.
I am sorry but i don't really feel like answering you since i think you are scum unless you can reasonably explain this and i don't really feel like arguing with scum about their scumreads.
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On January 17 2016 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 01:26 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, any thoughts on NocturneMage? I think you should probably first answer this: Show nested quote +On January 15 2016 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 15 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote:Meh, here goes nothing. AlotSomuch is townOn January 15 2016 09:09 AlotSomuch wrote:
Think you missed your chance there HoleyFlair I don't feel like this is a post that is natural for mafia to make. In addition to taunting Holyflare, he intentionally messes with his name. Assuming for the moment that Holyflare is town, scum doesn't want to aggravate Holyflare unnecessarily, doing so in this case has no mafia motivation. This is even more crappy read than the one on ritoky to be honest. I don't think there is any way Trfel to come to this conclusion as town because this post basically says that Alot's actions are townie because he would not want to aggravate town!Holyflare (which he doesn't even necessarily think is the case here -- since this reads post, orhis other posts doesn't include a townread on Holyflare). Not to even mention Alot has never played with Holyflare earlier so there is no reason to think the thought process is legit in the first place EVEN IF Holyflare was town. I am sorry but i don't really feel like answering you since i think you are scum unless you can reasonably explain this and i don't really feel like arguing with scum about their scumreads. When I make reads, I generally assume that everyone else is town. This is because my reads suck and I only remember one time where I had multiple scumreads at once and at least two were actually scum. Second, I assumed (apparently incorrectly) that AlotSomuch was a smurf from TL mafia.
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On January 17 2016 01:41 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:26 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, any thoughts on NocturneMage? I think you should probably first answer this: On January 15 2016 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 15 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote:Meh, here goes nothing. AlotSomuch is townOn January 15 2016 09:09 AlotSomuch wrote:
Think you missed your chance there HoleyFlair I don't feel like this is a post that is natural for mafia to make. In addition to taunting Holyflare, he intentionally messes with his name. Assuming for the moment that Holyflare is town, scum doesn't want to aggravate Holyflare unnecessarily, doing so in this case has no mafia motivation. This is even more crappy read than the one on ritoky to be honest. I don't think there is any way Trfel to come to this conclusion as town because this post basically says that Alot's actions are townie because he would not want to aggravate town!Holyflare (which he doesn't even necessarily think is the case here -- since this reads post, orhis other posts doesn't include a townread on Holyflare). Not to even mention Alot has never played with Holyflare earlier so there is no reason to think the thought process is legit in the first place EVEN IF Holyflare was town. I am sorry but i don't really feel like answering you since i think you are scum unless you can reasonably explain this and i don't really feel like arguing with scum about their scumreads. When I make reads, I generally assume that everyone else is town. This is because my reads suck and I only remember one time where I had multiple scumreads at once and at least two were actually scum. Second, I assumed (apparently incorrectly) that AlotSomuch was a smurf from TL mafia.
But your read is based mostly on Holyflare being town which you didn't think was the case at the time!!
It is an associative reads which is terrible in the first place and even the association does not hold up in your mind (since basically the next post of yours is a case on Holyflare being mafia.......)
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Caught up; I assume a smurf is a secondary account for an existing player?
I'm less confident on my trifle read right now, as the rest of his play today has been more on point and town. And I actually like his case on HoleyFlair. Still feel he is a good secondary wagon for right now, especially with no vote changer roles. Anyone feel like telling me about Palmira's town/scum tells?
And has Cephire even posted?
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On January 17 2016 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 01:41 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:26 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, any thoughts on NocturneMage? I think you should probably first answer this: On January 15 2016 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 15 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote:Meh, here goes nothing. AlotSomuch is townOn January 15 2016 09:09 AlotSomuch wrote:
Think you missed your chance there HoleyFlair I don't feel like this is a post that is natural for mafia to make. In addition to taunting Holyflare, he intentionally messes with his name. Assuming for the moment that Holyflare is town, scum doesn't want to aggravate Holyflare unnecessarily, doing so in this case has no mafia motivation. This is even more crappy read than the one on ritoky to be honest. I don't think there is any way Trfel to come to this conclusion as town because this post basically says that Alot's actions are townie because he would not want to aggravate town!Holyflare (which he doesn't even necessarily think is the case here -- since this reads post, orhis other posts doesn't include a townread on Holyflare). Not to even mention Alot has never played with Holyflare earlier so there is no reason to think the thought process is legit in the first place EVEN IF Holyflare was town. I am sorry but i don't really feel like answering you since i think you are scum unless you can reasonably explain this and i don't really feel like arguing with scum about their scumreads. When I make reads, I generally assume that everyone else is town. This is because my reads suck and I only remember one time where I had multiple scumreads at once and at least two were actually scum. Second, I assumed (apparently incorrectly) that AlotSomuch was a smurf from TL mafia. But your read is based mostly on Holyflare being town which you didn't think was the case at the time!!It is an associative reads which is terrible in the first place and even the association does not hold up in your mind (since basically the next post of yours is a case on Holyflare being mafia.......) I actually had a small town lean on Holyflare at the time. I just didn't think he was confirmed town.
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Alot is there a reason why you do not agree with my case on Trfel?
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On January 17 2016 01:50 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:41 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:26 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, any thoughts on NocturneMage? I think you should probably first answer this: On January 15 2016 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 15 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote:Meh, here goes nothing. AlotSomuch is townOn January 15 2016 09:09 AlotSomuch wrote:
Think you missed your chance there HoleyFlair I don't feel like this is a post that is natural for mafia to make. In addition to taunting Holyflare, he intentionally messes with his name. Assuming for the moment that Holyflare is town, scum doesn't want to aggravate Holyflare unnecessarily, doing so in this case has no mafia motivation. This is even more crappy read than the one on ritoky to be honest. I don't think there is any way Trfel to come to this conclusion as town because this post basically says that Alot's actions are townie because he would not want to aggravate town!Holyflare (which he doesn't even necessarily think is the case here -- since this reads post, orhis other posts doesn't include a townread on Holyflare). Not to even mention Alot has never played with Holyflare earlier so there is no reason to think the thought process is legit in the first place EVEN IF Holyflare was town. I am sorry but i don't really feel like answering you since i think you are scum unless you can reasonably explain this and i don't really feel like arguing with scum about their scumreads. When I make reads, I generally assume that everyone else is town. This is because my reads suck and I only remember one time where I had multiple scumreads at once and at least two were actually scum. Second, I assumed (apparently incorrectly) that AlotSomuch was a smurf from TL mafia. But your read is based mostly on Holyflare being town which you didn't think was the case at the time!!It is an associative reads which is terrible in the first place and even the association does not hold up in your mind (since basically the next post of yours is a case on Holyflare being mafia.......) I actually had a small town lean on Holyflare at the time. I just didn't think he was confirmed town.
Can you explain which posts made you think Holyflare is more likely to be town than mafia at that time?
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On January 17 2016 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 01:50 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:41 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:26 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, any thoughts on NocturneMage? I think you should probably first answer this: On January 15 2016 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 15 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote:Meh, here goes nothing. AlotSomuch is townOn January 15 2016 09:09 AlotSomuch wrote:
Think you missed your chance there HoleyFlair I don't feel like this is a post that is natural for mafia to make. In addition to taunting Holyflare, he intentionally messes with his name. Assuming for the moment that Holyflare is town, scum doesn't want to aggravate Holyflare unnecessarily, doing so in this case has no mafia motivation. This is even more crappy read than the one on ritoky to be honest. I don't think there is any way Trfel to come to this conclusion as town because this post basically says that Alot's actions are townie because he would not want to aggravate town!Holyflare (which he doesn't even necessarily think is the case here -- since this reads post, orhis other posts doesn't include a townread on Holyflare). Not to even mention Alot has never played with Holyflare earlier so there is no reason to think the thought process is legit in the first place EVEN IF Holyflare was town. I am sorry but i don't really feel like answering you since i think you are scum unless you can reasonably explain this and i don't really feel like arguing with scum about their scumreads. When I make reads, I generally assume that everyone else is town. This is because my reads suck and I only remember one time where I had multiple scumreads at once and at least two were actually scum. Second, I assumed (apparently incorrectly) that AlotSomuch was a smurf from TL mafia. But your read is based mostly on Holyflare being town which you didn't think was the case at the time!!It is an associative reads which is terrible in the first place and even the association does not hold up in your mind (since basically the next post of yours is a case on Holyflare being mafia.......) I actually had a small town lean on Holyflare at the time. I just didn't think he was confirmed town. Can you explain which posts made you think Holyflare is more likely to be town than mafia at that time? On January 15 2016 10:29 Holyflare wrote:
Let me tell you a story about something I encounter in day to day work.
This is a story about consent and the lack thereof.
Consent is the permission for something to take place. Commonly consent is used in regards to a sexual nature and lack of consent leads to a charge called rape.
The serious thing about consent is that it can be given or taken away at ANY time and equally importantly if you consent ONCE it does not mean you consent EVERY time.
This is where the game falls flat. I consented to be in one game and theorised that because I am so good and have little time that I will either roll town and die n1 or roll mafia and have an afk excuse. Now, that game I consented to is gone and in this game the days don't align with me and I'm just not feeling the sexual arousal needed so you did not have my consent.
The hosts have raped me.
Mostly this thing, I've seen Holyflare do things like this before as town (or third party playing like town) but never as mafia. Holyflare is generally a bit more to the point as mafia, from my experience. I started scumreading Holyflare based on what he did when he started playing the game a bit more seriously.
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On January 17 2016 01:56 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:50 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:41 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:26 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, any thoughts on NocturneMage? I think you should probably first answer this: On January 15 2016 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 15 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote:Meh, here goes nothing. AlotSomuch is townOn January 15 2016 09:09 AlotSomuch wrote:
Think you missed your chance there HoleyFlair I don't feel like this is a post that is natural for mafia to make. In addition to taunting Holyflare, he intentionally messes with his name. Assuming for the moment that Holyflare is town, scum doesn't want to aggravate Holyflare unnecessarily, doing so in this case has no mafia motivation. This is even more crappy read than the one on ritoky to be honest. I don't think there is any way Trfel to come to this conclusion as town because this post basically says that Alot's actions are townie because he would not want to aggravate town!Holyflare (which he doesn't even necessarily think is the case here -- since this reads post, orhis other posts doesn't include a townread on Holyflare). Not to even mention Alot has never played with Holyflare earlier so there is no reason to think the thought process is legit in the first place EVEN IF Holyflare was town. I am sorry but i don't really feel like answering you since i think you are scum unless you can reasonably explain this and i don't really feel like arguing with scum about their scumreads. When I make reads, I generally assume that everyone else is town. This is because my reads suck and I only remember one time where I had multiple scumreads at once and at least two were actually scum. Second, I assumed (apparently incorrectly) that AlotSomuch was a smurf from TL mafia. But your read is based mostly on Holyflare being town which you didn't think was the case at the time!!It is an associative reads which is terrible in the first place and even the association does not hold up in your mind (since basically the next post of yours is a case on Holyflare being mafia.......) I actually had a small town lean on Holyflare at the time. I just didn't think he was confirmed town. Can you explain which posts made you think Holyflare is more likely to be town than mafia at that time? Show nested quote +On January 15 2016 10:29 Holyflare wrote:
Let me tell you a story about something I encounter in day to day work.
This is a story about consent and the lack thereof.
Consent is the permission for something to take place. Commonly consent is used in regards to a sexual nature and lack of consent leads to a charge called rape.
The serious thing about consent is that it can be given or taken away at ANY time and equally importantly if you consent ONCE it does not mean you consent EVERY time.
This is where the game falls flat. I consented to be in one game and theorised that because I am so good and have little time that I will either roll town and die n1 or roll mafia and have an afk excuse. Now, that game I consented to is gone and in this game the days don't align with me and I'm just not feeling the sexual arousal needed so you did not have my consent.
The hosts have raped me.
Mostly this thing, I've seen Holyflare do things like this before as town (or third party playing like town) but never as mafia. Holyflare is generally a bit more to the point as mafia, from my experience. I started scumreading Holyflare based on what he did when he started playing the game a bit more seriously.
Actually judging from your case you started scumreading Holyflare when he made his vote on Damdred....
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On January 17 2016 01:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alot is there a reason why you do not agree with my case on Trfel?
Had to go all the way back to the beginning to find which case you were specifically talking about (back to page 6). I agree with your point on his post, and it is part of the reason I voted and am still voting him. It's a suspicious post. I'm saying he's made some better posts throughout the day. I'm still suspicious, which is why I haven't unvoted and want to keep him as the secondary wagon, but I'm also getting more suspicious of Holeyflair. Votes currently stand at 3 votes on Holey, 2 votes on trifle. I'm ok with that right now, and I'm kind of expecting you to switch to Trifle if you feel he is the more likely scum right before EOD.
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On January 17 2016 02:01 AlotSomuch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 01:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alot is there a reason why you do not agree with my case on Trfel? Had to go all the way back to the beginning to find which case you were specifically talking about (back to page 6). I agree with your point on his post, and it is part of the reason I voted and am still voting him. It's a suspicious post. I'm saying he's made some better posts throughout the day. I'm still suspicious, which is why I haven't unvoted and want to keep him as the secondary wagon, but I'm also getting more suspicious of Holeyflair. Votes currently stand at 3 votes on Holey, 2 votes on trifle. I'm ok with that right now, and I'm kind of expecting you to switch to Trifle if you feel he is the more likely scum right before EOD.
Is there any other posts you like except the posts on Holyflare?
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On January 17 2016 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 01:56 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:50 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:41 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:26 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, any thoughts on NocturneMage? I think you should probably first answer this: On January 15 2016 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 15 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote:Meh, here goes nothing. AlotSomuch is townOn January 15 2016 09:09 AlotSomuch wrote:
Think you missed your chance there HoleyFlair I don't feel like this is a post that is natural for mafia to make. In addition to taunting Holyflare, he intentionally messes with his name. Assuming for the moment that Holyflare is town, scum doesn't want to aggravate Holyflare unnecessarily, doing so in this case has no mafia motivation. This is even more crappy read than the one on ritoky to be honest. I don't think there is any way Trfel to come to this conclusion as town because this post basically says that Alot's actions are townie because he would not want to aggravate town!Holyflare (which he doesn't even necessarily think is the case here -- since this reads post, orhis other posts doesn't include a townread on Holyflare). Not to even mention Alot has never played with Holyflare earlier so there is no reason to think the thought process is legit in the first place EVEN IF Holyflare was town. I am sorry but i don't really feel like answering you since i think you are scum unless you can reasonably explain this and i don't really feel like arguing with scum about their scumreads. When I make reads, I generally assume that everyone else is town. This is because my reads suck and I only remember one time where I had multiple scumreads at once and at least two were actually scum. Second, I assumed (apparently incorrectly) that AlotSomuch was a smurf from TL mafia. But your read is based mostly on Holyflare being town which you didn't think was the case at the time!!It is an associative reads which is terrible in the first place and even the association does not hold up in your mind (since basically the next post of yours is a case on Holyflare being mafia.......) I actually had a small town lean on Holyflare at the time. I just didn't think he was confirmed town. Can you explain which posts made you think Holyflare is more likely to be town than mafia at that time? On January 15 2016 10:29 Holyflare wrote:
Let me tell you a story about something I encounter in day to day work.
This is a story about consent and the lack thereof.
Consent is the permission for something to take place. Commonly consent is used in regards to a sexual nature and lack of consent leads to a charge called rape.
The serious thing about consent is that it can be given or taken away at ANY time and equally importantly if you consent ONCE it does not mean you consent EVERY time.
This is where the game falls flat. I consented to be in one game and theorised that because I am so good and have little time that I will either roll town and die n1 or roll mafia and have an afk excuse. Now, that game I consented to is gone and in this game the days don't align with me and I'm just not feeling the sexual arousal needed so you did not have my consent.
The hosts have raped me.
Mostly this thing, I've seen Holyflare do things like this before as town (or third party playing like town) but never as mafia. Holyflare is generally a bit more to the point as mafia, from my experience. I started scumreading Holyflare based on what he did when he started playing the game a bit more seriously. Actually judging from your case you started scumreading Holyflare when he made his vote on Damdred.... This is not true at all, what gives you this idea?
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On January 17 2016 02:02 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:56 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:50 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:41 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:26 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, any thoughts on NocturneMage? I think you should probably first answer this: On January 15 2016 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 15 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote:
Meh, here goes nothing.
AlotSomuch is town
[quote]I don't feel like this is a post that is natural for mafia to make. In addition to taunting Holyflare, he intentionally messes with his name. Assuming for the moment that Holyflare is town, scum doesn't want to aggravate Holyflare unnecessarily, doing so in this case has no mafia motivation.
This is even more crappy read than the one on ritoky to be honest. I don't think there is any way Trfel to come to this conclusion as town because this post basically says that Alot's actions are townie because he would not want to aggravate town!Holyflare (which he doesn't even necessarily think is the case here -- since this reads post, orhis other posts doesn't include a townread on Holyflare). Not to even mention Alot has never played with Holyflare earlier so there is no reason to think the thought process is legit in the first place EVEN IF Holyflare was town. I am sorry but i don't really feel like answering you since i think you are scum unless you can reasonably explain this and i don't really feel like arguing with scum about their scumreads. When I make reads, I generally assume that everyone else is town. This is because my reads suck and I only remember one time where I had multiple scumreads at once and at least two were actually scum. Second, I assumed (apparently incorrectly) that AlotSomuch was a smurf from TL mafia. But your read is based mostly on Holyflare being town which you didn't think was the case at the time!!It is an associative reads which is terrible in the first place and even the association does not hold up in your mind (since basically the next post of yours is a case on Holyflare being mafia.......) I actually had a small town lean on Holyflare at the time. I just didn't think he was confirmed town. Can you explain which posts made you think Holyflare is more likely to be town than mafia at that time? On January 15 2016 10:29 Holyflare wrote:
Let me tell you a story about something I encounter in day to day work.
This is a story about consent and the lack thereof.
Consent is the permission for something to take place. Commonly consent is used in regards to a sexual nature and lack of consent leads to a charge called rape.
The serious thing about consent is that it can be given or taken away at ANY time and equally importantly if you consent ONCE it does not mean you consent EVERY time.
This is where the game falls flat. I consented to be in one game and theorised that because I am so good and have little time that I will either roll town and die n1 or roll mafia and have an afk excuse. Now, that game I consented to is gone and in this game the days don't align with me and I'm just not feeling the sexual arousal needed so you did not have my consent.
The hosts have raped me.
Mostly this thing, I've seen Holyflare do things like this before as town (or third party playing like town) but never as mafia. Holyflare is generally a bit more to the point as mafia, from my experience. I started scumreading Holyflare based on what he did when he started playing the game a bit more seriously. Actually judging from your case you started scumreading Holyflare when he made his vote on Damdred.... This is not true at all, what gives you this idea?
It is a part of your case. Unless you decided to quote a post in your case which is NOT part of your case.
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I'm actually halfway certain that Trfel is town here.
1) The way trfel is handling himself when interacting with people seems to have a genuine mindset of wanting to work with the thread. Most of the questions trfel aka are ok and doesn't really drop them.
2) While some of the reads or progression are questionable I don't think that's necessarily scum indicative of trfel. I think part of his response especially Sally to talking to me stepping back to reevaluate seems towny and even as he does this he has another thought process to talk about ie nm.
I like trfel I don't think he's lock town but definitely don't think he should,be lynched today
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On January 17 2016 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 02:02 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:56 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:50 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:41 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2016 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2016 01:26 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, any thoughts on NocturneMage? I think you should probably first answer this: On January 15 2016 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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This is even more crappy read than the one on ritoky to be honest.
I don't think there is any way Trfel to come to this conclusion as town because this post basically says that Alot's actions are townie because he would not want to aggravate town!Holyflare (which he doesn't even necessarily think is the case here -- since this reads post, orhis other posts doesn't include a townread on Holyflare). Not to even mention Alot has never played with Holyflare earlier so there is no reason to think the thought process is legit in the first place EVEN IF Holyflare was town. I am sorry but i don't really feel like answering you since i think you are scum unless you can reasonably explain this and i don't really feel like arguing with scum about their scumreads. When I make reads, I generally assume that everyone else is town. This is because my reads suck and I only remember one time where I had multiple scumreads at once and at least two were actually scum. Second, I assumed (apparently incorrectly) that AlotSomuch was a smurf from TL mafia. But your read is based mostly on Holyflare being town which you didn't think was the case at the time!!It is an associative reads which is terrible in the first place and even the association does not hold up in your mind (since basically the next post of yours is a case on Holyflare being mafia.......) I actually had a small town lean on Holyflare at the time. I just didn't think he was confirmed town. Can you explain which posts made you think Holyflare is more likely to be town than mafia at that time? On January 15 2016 10:29 Holyflare wrote:
Let me tell you a story about something I encounter in day to day work.
This is a story about consent and the lack thereof.
Consent is the permission for something to take place. Commonly consent is used in regards to a sexual nature and lack of consent leads to a charge called rape.
The serious thing about consent is that it can be given or taken away at ANY time and equally importantly if you consent ONCE it does not mean you consent EVERY time.
This is where the game falls flat. I consented to be in one game and theorised that because I am so good and have little time that I will either roll town and die n1 or roll mafia and have an afk excuse. Now, that game I consented to is gone and in this game the days don't align with me and I'm just not feeling the sexual arousal needed so you did not have my consent.
The hosts have raped me.
Mostly this thing, I've seen Holyflare do things like this before as town (or third party playing like town) but never as mafia. Holyflare is generally a bit more to the point as mafia, from my experience. I started scumreading Holyflare based on what he did when he started playing the game a bit more seriously. Actually judging from your case you started scumreading Holyflare when he made his vote on Damdred.... This is not true at all, what gives you this idea? It is a part of your case. Unless you decided to quote a post in your case which is NOT part of your case. My interpretation of that post changed based as Holyflare did more (or rather, didn't...), and as I thought about it differently.
Initially I had no problems with it, however as Holyflare posted more reads, I felt that he was making a ton of scumreads and not actually caring about them. This is not a conclusion that could be made until Holyflare made more posts (including showing that he was actually caring about the game).
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Well who do you think should be lynched Damdred?
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EPT
