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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 10:15 GMT
#150
IF anything your kneejerking me =]
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 14:24 GMT
#153
Not at all an rng lynch is what i think an assasin would do for information and an excuse to vote. He might be afraid to accidentally vote the king and an rng vote is a cool way to hide that in wifmo
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 16:40 GMT
#166
I wanted a vote count so i did one myself

1. Koshi - ceph
2. Cephiro - noon
3. nooniansoong ceph
4. sicklucker sylencia
5. Sylencia sicklucker

sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 17:06 GMT
#170
On January 21 2016 01:54 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 01:40 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 21 2016 01:27 Cephiro wrote:
On January 21 2016 00:42 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 20 2016 23:45 Cephiro wrote:
Some tidbits of info: 3 votes on someone does NOT guarantee they're not the king.

I also don't agree that if someone is obviously not king that they necessarily need to be killed, if they're most certainly a valued protector of the kingdom and there is a highly suspect assassin. After all, even if it does seem obvious, mistakes can be made when taking a shot.



and you would say that as an assassin. if the assassin can cross someone off their king list it helps them. if we confirm someone not king then lynch someone else, that's two people not king.

if we lynch the person we've confirmed not king, that's one person not king, plus a possibility that the person we lynch will be the assassin.


Why would I specifically say that as an assassin?

Of course crossing of someone off their king list is useful for the assassin, that's obvious.

If we "confirm" someone not king and lynch them = 1 dead bodyguard or assassin
If we "confirm" someone not king and don't lynch them = 1 dead bodyguard or assassin + WIFOM potential

Even if we pretend someone is 100% modconfirmed not king which isn't possible, if it can also be assumed that person is very/extremely likely / "confirmed" a bodyguard, why should we kill a protector of the royal family? I value their patronage quite a fair bit you know.

While keeping the King's identity secret, we're supposed to lynch the assassin, not lynch every "not king".


In the second case it = 2 dead bodyguard because the person we lynch will be another confirmed body guard.

Anyway I have another question. Why did you claim king when koshi had already claimed... What was the value in your counterclaim?


Uh, wtf? The person up for lynch if they're confirmed not king doesn't mean they're necessarily assassin. That means we can hit the assassin just as well lynching outside of that person. I don't understand how the hell you make it up to 2 dead bodyguards? As it could also be a well-versed play to make the first person look like a bodyguard while actually being a king.

Lynching a bodyguard is never a benefit, we should always aim to lynch the assassin only, even if they're already sure one person is not the king.

I claimed because either no-one or all should claim in the optimal scenario. With some people claiming and some not, the assassin has to first decide if they think the King is claiming King or hiding by not claiming. After deciding that, they have to go through the pool of people that have taken that decision. With Koshi claiming, the pools were 1 King to 4 Nonclaimers. After me claiming, the pools were 2 Kings to 3 nonclaimers.

If there was only 1 person in a category, the assassin has one less choice to make. More choices to be made = More potential for mistakes. By causing both possibilities to have at least 2 options, I've forced the assassin to make two separate choices, where both "checks" have a chance of fail.


its acualy optimul to stop posting and just lynch that person (ticktock). If we spew shit and stuff then ya we may as well vote who we think is the assin.

But if even ticktock had only the slimmest of chance its better to stop talking lynch him and move on. Because sometimes we hit the assasin and we lose nothing because assasin would never target him
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 17:19 GMT
#173
On January 21 2016 02:16 Cephiro wrote:
No it's not optimal to stop posting and lynch someone just because they're confirmed not king.

If we're confident that we're about to hit the assassin? Sure.
Otherwise? Hell no.

Even if the one up for lynch happens to be a bodyguard, that's +1 person that can still give his thoughts on stuff and help in finding the assassin. If no-one talks and it's a bodyguard lynch, we're in the same situation but with less time and less thoughts.

This game is just as much about finding the Assassin as it is about hiding the King. I prefer overloading the assassin with as much information as possible, rather than keeping it to zero. While you could call it pretty even, I personally think it's easier to pinpoint the assassin in a surplus of information, than for the assassin to pinpoint the king.



yes it is the whole point of the game is to lynch the assasin without giving him information. If we leave ticktock in there is just more chance of spew at the same time if ticktock is the assassin he would have no hope to figure out who the king is. And thats why killing ticktock was the play
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 17:31 GMT
#175
NO time was wasted just pretend your 24 hours in the future. and his opinion was just as likely to tell the assasin who the king was then not.

Anyway its not important anymore. I think your not a better lynch because your taking a strong (incorrect) stance
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 20:46 GMT
#183
im pretty sure we kill the assassin today. may the wifmo be strong in us that are lord kingship survives
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 22:13 GMT
#188
Rly? well i need to decide after a good night sleep bad alergys today =[
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 23:38 GMT
#196
On January 21 2016 07:41 Koshi wrote:
I decided I will 100% sheep sicklucker his vote. I think he made a post to tell other bodyguards that he is a bodyguard.



thanks for the wifmo champ
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 23:43 GMT
#197
Oh my boy kush =[
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 21 2016 20:28 GMT
#203
ah man did i sleep all day...
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 21 2016 20:39 GMT
#204
I really dont want lose to ceph again hes a crafty mafia. ##vote cephiro Honestly if its not him we probably los. I think its clear cephs not the king to the assassin if hes not since everyone and his mother pushed him and voted him all game anyway
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 21 2016 20:58 GMT
#214
wut? ill vote for myself if you really want but I dont see the point
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 21 2016 21:01 GMT
#215
##unvote ##vote sicklucker

i need to reread this game fuck double signups
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 21 2016 21:09 GMT
#217
ceph I dont think you are one with the wifmo
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 21 2016 21:16 GMT
#220
Lol ok lets lynch noon
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 21 2016 21:20 GMT
#223
[b##unvote
##vote: nooniansong][/b]

you cant vote the king
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 21 2016 21:20 GMT
#224
##unvote ##vote noon
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 21 2016 21:22 GMT
#225
On January 22 2016 06:16 nooniansoong wrote:
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On January 22 2016 05:39 sicklucker wrote:
I really dont want lose to ceph again hes a crafty mafia. ##vote cephiro Honestly if its not him we probably los. I think its clear cephs not the king to the assassin if hes not since everyone and his mother pushed him and voted him all game anyway



wat... why do you even say this?
and we could have been wifoming by pretending to suspect him.


me too you see how this works? MIND=BLOWN GIF
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 21 2016 21:23 GMT
#226
Kush bounced his vote between two people for along time clearly looking for info. I have stuck it on one person each day with only wifmo at my side
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