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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 15 2015 02:52 GMT
#341
On December 15 2015 11:51 Sukrit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 08:44 Damdred wrote:
Ls why should I not vote you ^^. Will be home to read and bomb soon



This one

Oh I didn't read that second part right because of reading the first part made me mad.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 04:56 GMT
#342
too many people don't have an opinion on who is mafia. too many null reads. everyone should call someone mafia in their next post and stop wasting time pussyfooting. the time for your pointless shitty information gathering questions is past; form some opinions and stop being less useful than me.

shape is town
kush is probably town
not interested in lynching koshi
not interested in lynching damdred
not interested in lynching rels
no girls in the game so dunno LS alignment
tt is probably mafia
gb is underwhelming and should be a potential vote
gig does the whole not delivering on promises shit
every1 else is nai or unremarkable

##vote: glowingbear

i am voting on you to piss you off so that you can shit town on me and then i can lynch tt at the eod. please stop being worse than me, cuz if you're worse than me you're probably mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 15 2015 05:09 GMT
#343
I'm still reading. Just got back from an rl emergency
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 15 2015 05:27 GMT
#344
Iiiiiiiiiiiii aaaaaaaam druuuuuuuuunk
I'm adorable.
Sukrit
Profile Joined May 2015
136 Posts
December 15 2015 05:29 GMT
#345
On December 15 2015 11:26 Shapelog wrote:
And the Sukirt/Onegu vote makes sense (kinda) now on Koshi lol.


My vote was real and my read is real. I wasnt trying to tilt koshi this game. I actually like playing with Koshi, I also enjoy trolling. The problem comes if I want to play a serious game I will get scum read hard by people just based on meta of me not trolling. But I mis-read koshi once I need to go look at that game and see where I went wrong. I will give him that he looks better as of his more recent posts. I dont agree with the reads at all and it really looks like he doesnt agree with mine. This maybe bias as alot of times our reads actually match up. Read day one haunted our reads matched more than they were different. But as per normal I dont make cases anymore. I was actually trying to be much more serious and give my thought process as it happened this game.

Also just fyi I have played 3 games with scum koshi. NWM, GOT, and Horn. I called him mafia and was correct in each of these games. In horn the most recent I was the reason breshke shot him.

I dont think I want to lynch him now, but I still am nowhere near town reading him.



Ritoky can you give me a better reason as to why shape is town. I mean the setup thing is NAI. Both alignments dont read setup. I dont see why you town read him based on this.

Damdred plz comeback. I have misread you multiple times and I still dont know how to read you. You really are one of the few people on this site I do not have any confidence in my ability to read.

I still dont like TT either.

Would like a better feel on LS but he becomes on of the more easily readable people on the site as the game goes on as he really dislikes rolling scum. But the fact he has a 3 page filter and I cannot really recall anything he has said of substance is kinda telling to me.

GB is meh. Not really sure I would lynch him today though. More I think about it he is firmly null to me.

I dont get Koshi's read on giggles. And agree with GB that it is not a good reason to scum read someone.

GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 15 2015 05:31 GMT
#346
I'm also not mafia
I'm adorable.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 15 2015 05:36 GMT
#347
Finished reading through and writing general notes. Going to go through filters and hang around still. Current scum reads are on tt (again, I really don't like that list of townread retraction with NAI stuff) and shape (holy shit that random asslist in to weird sukrit fos). Might get some more/less post-filters, but we'll see.

For the record, my name has been spelled 9 different ways, so that's pretty neat. Also, these posts :D

On December 14 2015 13:40 Sukrit wrote:
Onegu hacked ritokys' account?^


On December 14 2015 23:28 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2015 23:24 Shapelog wrote:
If that is Onegu I will do a shot and watch as Koshi calls him cancer . Then just read other peoples posts responding to it.

No. This Onegu I could fall in love with. Therefore, if this would be Onegu I would kill Onegu for being Onegu in the past.

I love this new meta of mine with all these content rich posts.

AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 05:38 GMT
#348
he went derpies over a missed joke backed up by 0 setup knowledge against a strong player in damdred. he is town. there are levels to this game. my read may be on another level if you don't get it.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 15 2015 05:43 GMT
#349
I understand how that points to him being town, and I had a town read on him too for the same reason but those recent posts changed my mind especially when earlier erratic behavior can be attributed to his lack of sleep and relative forum inexperience.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 05:50 GMT
#350
bad play makes someone bad, not mafia; plus i have gotten pretty good at identifying lynch bait as town, pretty much all i am good at as town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 15 2015 05:53 GMT
#351
RITOKYYYYYYYY I'M NOT MAFIA
I'm adorable.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 15 2015 05:57 GMT
#352
GB go to bed lmao
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 06:06 GMT
#353
On December 15 2015 14:53 GlowingBear wrote:
RITOKYYYYYYYY I'M NOT MAFIA


i love it when you ramble to me. whisper your sweet nothings in my ear so i can feel like i have been enveloped in a cloud of tenderness and love. then i will brutally lynch tt.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 15 2015 06:12 GMT
#354
On December 15 2015 14:38 ritoky wrote:
he went derpies over a missed joke backed up by 0 setup knowledge against a strong player in damdred. he is town. there are levels to this game. my read may be on another level if you don't get it.


Help me get to your level. I don't think he went "against" Damdred. He says it's a bit far fetched and that he took a note of it being possible and moved on. I agree with Sukrit that both sides make setup mistakes. He then talked primarily about Koshi and Sukrit. Maybe I'm thinking that going against someone is more like how Sukrit is on Koshi or you are on TT?

Even counting this as towny points, you can't say the rest of his posts are any good. Is this really the only thing you are looking at in evaluating Shapelog?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 15 2015 06:16 GMT
#355
GB who do you want to lynch?

GiygaS anything new in your notes? Who do you want to lynch?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 06:17 GMT
#356
On December 15 2015 15:12 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 14:38 ritoky wrote:
he went derpies over a missed joke backed up by 0 setup knowledge against a strong player in damdred. he is town. there are levels to this game. my read may be on another level if you don't get it.


Help me get to your level. I don't think he went "against" Damdred. He says it's a bit far fetched and that he took a note of it being possible and moved on. I agree with Sukrit that both sides make setup mistakes. He then talked primarily about Koshi and Sukrit. Maybe I'm thinking that going against someone is more like how Sukrit is on Koshi or you are on TT?

Even counting this as towny points, you can't say the rest of his posts are any good. Is this really the only thing you are looking at in evaluating Shapelog?


as of now it is literally the only thing i am evaluating him on because it is the only thing that matters. 1 moment can make someone irrevocably town or irreversibly mafia. it is good to recognize those moments and never forget them because the rest does not matter. they eye of the chupazi sees moments of truth, it wades through the spam and locates certainty in an uncertain world.

+ Show Spoiler +
if he goes and tries to put 8 lynches on town or gets tracked to a kill or some shit, then maybe i will reconsider but probably not cuz i like being right


+ Show Spoiler +
this message was hard to make on an ipad, fuck vacations; overrated
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 15 2015 06:35 GMT
#357
Still looking over everyone, but I'm sort of stuck on rels. Like I just don't understand his play coming from an experienced player (at least I presume he is based on posts). Like in addition to the things Koshi already said about him, his question seemed to go towards this weird meta-lynch on LS. Like look at this post:

On December 15 2015 08:05 Rels wrote:
I stayed up for posting this. I thought the deadline was 1 hour earlier.

Here is LS filter from the game I just played, in which he was town:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/498635-dark-tournament-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike

Here is his filter from this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=LightningStrike

It's a schocking difference. LS as town in dark tournament mafia posted reads, questionned stuff and overall looked to solve the game. In this game, he had NO game-related post until I asked him for a list of reads.

I think this guy is scum.
##Vote LightningStrike


There's 9 hours between this post and LS replying to his list. In these 9 hours, LS is pretty on top of things, his content isn't isolated to this list that was requested, and they're pretty relevant to the game. I don't think LS is particularly townie, but this is a pretty bullshit case on him.

It just feels like rels posted a weird question and then wanted to attach meaning to it so he put up this weird argument that doesn't even make sense. He even ignored that already noted scummy post from LS (the one where he's talking about conserving posts for the filter), the dude he's talking about.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 15 2015 06:45 GMT
#358
I didn't notice the time change. I think LightningStrike kinda falls into the Chezinu Rule (weird posters get attacked by mafia since they are so easy to lynch). I really didn't like how he came in scummed LS and bailed. Koshi has good points on him too. Plus, maybe he will spew townbows.

##Vote: Rels
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 15 2015 06:47 GMT
#359
On December 15 2015 15:16 Tubesock wrote:
GB who do you want to lynch?

GiygaS anything new in your notes? Who do you want to lynch?


Drunk senses say we should lynxh Koshi
I'm adorable.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 15 2015 06:53 GMT
#360
On December 15 2015 15:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 15:16 Tubesock wrote:
GB who do you want to lynch?

GiygaS anything new in your notes? Who do you want to lynch?


Drunk senses say we should lynxh Koshi



Don't get me wrong, my best theories were drunk theories but Koshimizu doesn't seem mafia at all. What makes you think so?
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