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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 18 2015 18:06 GMT
#379
On October 19 2015 03:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 19 2015 03:02 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ??


i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions.

i don't see where you townread him?

On October 18 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.

He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.

So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that.

To be completely serious, I do like to generate a little discussion in games. So far what conclusions have I drawn? Well, one is that boxerfred's post just now is super awkward and I don't really like it. Another is that you are pretty probably town for coming in with a townie mindset and without addressing the possibility of what Mafia would do. So you are a town read and boxerfred is a scum read. The other dude is a town lean and GB is a null right now.

The response is adequate enough lol. I have him down as a null from my town read earlier. Don't know why you have problems with it.


oh right i just didn't see his name.

My issue is you asked him a pretty big question, literally "what is your opinion on everyone so far" clearly because you want to develop a read on the guy. Then he makes his big list post, which totally disagrees with a lot of your reads, calls you scum in it.
And rather than actually follow up or make any specific noise , i have to ask you about him and you respond just like "yeh he's null i guess but some guy said something else i should check"

for someone who is so keen on "getting a town circle" and how important that is to you it doesn't fit at all and to me it looks like you were just spamming to spam and not actually caring.

huh? kSC, you do know that I'm not the type to exactly splurge everything that's on my mind? I clearly recall in my last game where I said something like that. But then again, you were scum there so perhaps you didn't make the effort to read it. mmm...I keep my developing reads to myself unless I'm trying to provoke a reaction or I'm certain about something.


you splurge pretty much everything else.

So just to have your story down, you asked a guy to give his entire list of reads, when he did and they didn't line up with anything you had, rather than say anything you just moved on, said "eh he's null i guess I will check out what that other guy said"

I shared some thoughts, other people shared some thoughts, I realized Vonthin didn't really extrapolate on most of the people that posted so I asked him for his thoughts on people. What he said didn't line up with most of what I think but it might just be a case of newbie so I dropped him to a null in my mind, and am now checking the thread in between Splegg queues. Any other questions?


nah i got what I needed.


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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 18 2015 18:07 GMT
#381
On October 19 2015 03:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello?


so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it?


This line of questioning is kind of dumb kSC. Like lol I'm doing other things right now but do you want me to go back and look through Vonthin again at your command? I'm checking in to respond to questions right now but smh.


well to be honest the list is more important to you than anyone since you were the person who asked for it.
I shouldn't have to command you to do it.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 18 2015 18:10 GMT
#384
On October 19 2015 03:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 19 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello?


so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it?


This line of questioning is kind of dumb kSC. Like lol I'm doing other things right now but do you want me to go back and look through Vonthin again at your command? I'm checking in to respond to questions right now but smh.


well to be honest the list is more important to you than anyone since you were the person who asked for it.
I shouldn't have to command you to do it.

So you're expecting me to do something that I don't care to at the moment? I'm sorry but TL isn't more important to me than winning games of Splegg.


I mean he did it 14 hours ago I thought you might have given it more than a cursory glance. considering you asked him for it to start with.
when you get a moment then i will await your thoughts I don't want to stop you doing whatever it is you are doing.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 18 2015 18:13 GMT
#386
On October 19 2015 03:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 19 2015 03:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello?


so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it?


This line of questioning is kind of dumb kSC. Like lol I'm doing other things right now but do you want me to go back and look through Vonthin again at your command? I'm checking in to respond to questions right now but smh.


well to be honest the list is more important to you than anyone since you were the person who asked for it.
I shouldn't have to command you to do it.

So you're expecting me to do something that I don't care to at the moment? I'm sorry but TL isn't more important to me than winning games of Splegg.


I mean he did it 14 hours ago I thought you might have given it more than a cursory glance. considering you asked him for it to start with.
when you get a moment then i will await your thoughts I don't want to stop you doing whatever it is you are doing.

I just got back and I'm playing splegg. I didn't check in the meantime of however long I last posted.


ok like I said, whenever you get a moment

scott can you respond
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 18 2015 18:20 GMT
#389
just to speed this along

Farah is saying "you shouldn't have strong scum reads based on no interaction

not "you should have no scum reads"

moosy disagrees with you Farah

in general as a new who hasn't played in lots of games with moosy or anyone using meta from past games wont help you well.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 18 2015 18:37 GMT
#398
On October 19 2015 03:21 scott31337 wrote:
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On October 19 2015 02:53 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:50 scott31337 wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat.



On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good.


I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here.


This is a good point - but he mentioned nothing about LoneMeow which I would think he'd have a read on.

Eversince still has not posted, either.

I'll be on and off watching american football and playing here.


who is he?



She, actually - played in the Student Mafia game before this one, was pretty obvtown. Unsure if she's AFK and had things to do, or having problems entering the thread. I go over the list to make sure I don't forget about people.

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On October 19 2015 02:54 KelsierSC wrote:
scott can you explain what you meant with this post

On October 18 2015 07:35 scott31337 wrote:
On October 18 2015 07:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak.


Explain your vote on GB like I'm five years old.

I decide to have a bit of fun as GB was my Mafia partner in the game where I doubled bused my partners. As a result, I ask him as a joke if I can bus him this game. GB understands the joke and says that I should say it in the QT. As a continuation of the joke I say it's too late and remark that I'll be confirmed town after the "bus" and then vote for GB.


Just was making sure - Thank you.

To Shining on the GB read - a bit of meta (I've guessed him correctly the last three games) - a bit of playfulness and making sense.
I mean I didn't like Kelsier's entrance persay either, but I was going to wait until later in the day to see if he shows up. I didn't see anything else really worth pointing out when I read the thread.





I am unsure which part you mean so I'll break it all down. I wanted Moosy to explain his vote on GB, and he did so. I know all about the shit double bus very well.

The GB reading still holds for me and is still a town lean.

You have looked a little better since your entrance - I mean FF hasn't done anything either - and your point about Moosy you pointed out I liked.


ok so you didn't believe moosy was just joking/having fun with GB then.

Because Rels point

On October 18 2015 20:28 Rels wrote:
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On October 18 2015 07:35 scott31337 wrote:
On October 18 2015 07:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak.


Explain your vote on GB like I'm five years old.

I decide to have a bit of fun as GB was my Mafia partner in the game where I doubled bused my partners. As a result, I ask him as a joke if I can bus him this game. GB understands the joke and says that I should say it in the QT. As a continuation of the joke I say it's too late and remark that I'll be confirmed town after the "bus" and then vote for GB.


Just was making sure - Thank you.

REALLY BRO ? YOU REMARKED HE WAS JOKING AND YOU WERE JUST MAKING SURE ??? THAT S EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT READING YOUR POSTS. NOT.
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On October 18 2015 06:33 scott31337 wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB can i bus you again?


And there is a QT to discuss this Moosy, you shouldn't be telling that to everyone else

welp too late.

##Vote: GlowingBear


And a shit early vote.

Now he's spamming up the thread.

I'm not caring for this play so far.

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On October 18 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak.


Explain your vote on GB like I'm five years old.



is here you vote him for the shit vote and spamming..

but with your "just was making sure". that makes it seem like you are saying that you knew he was joking all along.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 18 2015 18:40 GMT
#399
On October 19 2015 03:21 scott31337 wrote:
She, actually - played in the Student Mafia game before this one, was pretty obvtown. Unsure if she's AFK and had things to do, or having problems entering the thread. I go over the list to make sure I don't forget about people.



again I still don't know who you are talking about or how that relates to what I posted.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 18 2015 18:41 GMT
#400
specifically the "he has not said anything about lonemeow" who is he?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 18 2015 20:23 GMT
#418
On October 19 2015 05:22 Eversince wrote:
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On October 19 2015 05:20 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:19 Eversince wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On October 19 2015 04:55 Eversince wrote:
Also there is so much wrong with what Fecal just did. Just nooo.


Why not explain a bit more?


Sure! He's done squat all this game. Then randomly pops in to say if the current lynch isn't town he'll eat a hat. So confident in his read but doesn't care to explain why or how he came into that read. I think that's the first read he even has this game.

Is KSC the lynch? He's actually trying to play this game


If postin' filler and picking fights to muck up the thread is playing the game... I guess


mhmm ok...
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 18 2015 20:29 GMT
#424
On October 19 2015 05:26 Eversince wrote:
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On October 19 2015 05:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ok so playing traffic cop between farah and moose is which? (filler/mucking up the thread)


Then getting into a fight with Moosy himself? Some traffic cop...


I've given a few reads and then i've been questioning people trying to figure things out. I don't see how this qualifies as mucking up the thread or filler.
If you have an issue with my questioning moosy then go right ahead and verbalise it.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 18 2015 20:30 GMT
#426
scott you disappeared on me, can you come back and answer.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 18 2015 20:47 GMT
#435
On October 19 2015 04:53 The Shining wrote:
Honestly, outside of Rels admittedly good points RE: Scott, I don't really like his catch up posts. He starts off picking on my entrance(just like GB did) and then goes on to say GB might be Mafia. If so, why did he have the same train of thought as him? Then he asks SL for his thoughts on GB, meaning he wants to try and flesh out his scumread of GB. Then he picks on another of my posts which is whatever because I know I always play weird D1s but considering I was looking for Vonthins reaction to that post, I don't like him painting a narrative of me being in a scum mentality. Especially since we rolled scum together recently and he should know that isn't my style.

Then he follows up with GB is probably town for his tryhard post. After saying he might be Mafia, and trying to flesh it out with SL, he says he is town off of one post and leaves it alone. Even goes so far as to make a lynch list including myself on it and throws GB on the town list, then asks GB what he thinks of SL? Why is he trying to throw these two against each other instead of asking anyone else? And he completely abandoned his scumread on GB to accept him as town with no interaction, just a post he saw.


I agree it felt very haphazrd but I imagined it basically him writing down thoughts as he went through the thread.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 18 2015 20:53 GMT
#437
On October 19 2015 05:50 The Shining wrote:
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On October 19 2015 05:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 04:53 The Shining wrote:
Honestly, outside of Rels admittedly good points RE: Scott, I don't really like his catch up posts. He starts off picking on my entrance(just like GB did) and then goes on to say GB might be Mafia. If so, why did he have the same train of thought as him? Then he asks SL for his thoughts on GB, meaning he wants to try and flesh out his scumread of GB. Then he picks on another of my posts which is whatever because I know I always play weird D1s but considering I was looking for Vonthins reaction to that post, I don't like him painting a narrative of me being in a scum mentality. Especially since we rolled scum together recently and he should know that isn't my style.

Then he follows up with GB is probably town for his tryhard post. After saying he might be Mafia, and trying to flesh it out with SL, he says he is town off of one post and leaves it alone. Even goes so far as to make a lynch list including myself on it and throws GB on the town list, then asks GB what he thinks of SL? Why is he trying to throw these two against each other instead of asking anyone else? And he completely abandoned his scumread on GB to accept him as town with no interaction, just a post he saw.


I agree it felt very haphazrd but I imagined it basically him writing down thoughts as he went through the thread.



But then why ask GB and SL what they think of each other at different points instead of asking them about anyone else? Even me? Since he found at least two "bad" posts of mine, why wouldn't he ask them what they thought of me? It felt like he was trying to drive them against each other. I don't see a town motivation behind that.


he asked SL about GB because he had just scumread GB and SL showed up to the thread.

then time passes I guess, he town reads GB for that post.

Then he asks him about SL...i don't know why, maybe he wants to ask his townread for an opinion.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 18 2015 20:57 GMT
#440
On October 19 2015 05:53 Eversince wrote:
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On October 19 2015 05:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:43 Eversince wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On October 19 2015 04:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ksc is town ir I'll eat my hat. Farah seems towny to me but newbs posting at all get on my good side. Not liking sicklucker tbh, he's going to say i always scum him but i feel it for real this time.

Gb is not making me praise him but I'd call him null atm. There was another newbie who posted a shitty list that keeps getting quoted i didn't like that list.

I'm in bed on my phone and don't feel like filtering at all


Town:
Ksc
Fatah

Null
GB

Scum
Sl
The other newb


And why does he have any of those reads?

Why don't you ask him?


Why ask this and not just tell me? I mean it's pretty obvious I'd like to know.
It's important for Farah, because you haven't done it at all yet.
When I made my first post on you, you had 3 post. 2 completely filler post followed with that.


whilst it is true that ff hasn't been posting a lot, you haven't exactly been a shining beacon of town leadership so rather than this shit maybe you could just ask him and get this over with.

then expand on your reads because so far you "don't like" shining over a post from like the first page, ff is mafia because he gave reads on players and i'm mafia for not traffic copping and "fighting" / mucking things up so if you could get on with explaining all that it would be useful.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 18 2015 21:01 GMT
#442
OT is over so you're out of excuses scott
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 18 2015 21:05 GMT
#445
On October 19 2015 06:02 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 05:53 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:50 The Shining wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 04:53 The Shining wrote:
Honestly, outside of Rels admittedly good points RE: Scott, I don't really like his catch up posts. He starts off picking on my entrance(just like GB did) and then goes on to say GB might be Mafia. If so, why did he have the same train of thought as him? Then he asks SL for his thoughts on GB, meaning he wants to try and flesh out his scumread of GB. Then he picks on another of my posts which is whatever because I know I always play weird D1s but considering I was looking for Vonthins reaction to that post, I don't like him painting a narrative of me being in a scum mentality. Especially since we rolled scum together recently and he should know that isn't my style.

Then he follows up with GB is probably town for his tryhard post. After saying he might be Mafia, and trying to flesh it out with SL, he says he is town off of one post and leaves it alone. Even goes so far as to make a lynch list including myself on it and throws GB on the town list, then asks GB what he thinks of SL? Why is he trying to throw these two against each other instead of asking anyone else? And he completely abandoned his scumread on GB to accept him as town with no interaction, just a post he saw.


I agree it felt very haphazrd but I imagined it basically him writing down thoughts as he went through the thread.



But then why ask GB and SL what they think of each other at different points instead of asking them about anyone else? Even me? Since he found at least two "bad" posts of mine, why wouldn't he ask them what they thought of me? It felt like he was trying to drive them against each other. I don't see a town motivation behind that.


he asked SL about GB because he had just scumread GB and SL showed up to the thread.

then time passes I guess, he town reads GB for that post.

Then he asks him about SL...i don't know why, maybe he wants to ask his townread for an opinion.


Makes sense but now I'm sad it isn't coming from him. Because he can just agree with what you said now lol. But why not ask your townread for an opinion on someone who's posts you thought were bad? I'd prefer he answered that


i mean i don't know why he asked GB about SL specifically so you can ask him that/
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 18 2015 21:06 GMT
#446
On October 19 2015 06:02 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 05:57 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:53 Eversince wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:43 Eversince wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On October 19 2015 04:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ksc is town ir I'll eat my hat. Farah seems towny to me but newbs posting at all get on my good side. Not liking sicklucker tbh, he's going to say i always scum him but i feel it for real this time.

Gb is not making me praise him but I'd call him null atm. There was another newbie who posted a shitty list that keeps getting quoted i didn't like that list.

I'm in bed on my phone and don't feel like filtering at all


Town:
Ksc
Fatah

Null
GB

Scum
Sl
The other newb


And why does he have any of those reads?

Why don't you ask him?


Why ask this and not just tell me? I mean it's pretty obvious I'd like to know.
It's important for Farah, because you haven't done it at all yet.
When I made my first post on you, you had 3 post. 2 completely filler post followed with that.


whilst it is true that ff hasn't been posting a lot, you haven't exactly been a shining beacon of town leadership so rather than this shit maybe you could just ask him and get this over with.

then expand on your reads because so far you "don't like" shining over a post from like the first page, ff is mafia because he gave reads on players and i'm mafia for not traffic copping and "fighting" / mucking things up so if you could get on with explaining all that it would be useful.

Damn, what a filler post. How have I been so blind?

+ Show Spoiler +


you will have to expand on those reads at some point though.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 18 2015 21:19 GMT
#456
so every post I made is mafia?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 18 2015 21:33 GMT
#466
On October 19 2015 06:14 Eversince wrote:
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On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat.



On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good.


I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here.

Implied question
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On October 19 2015 02:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat.



On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good.


I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here.

It's pretty exciting don't you think? My initial gut reads on Rels have led me to scum read him in the past 2 games where he was scum but I always ignored them because of what everyone else said. Now that my initial gut read is town that means I can hard town read him without a doubt. Hm...maybe a bit later down the line, but not for now.

Also, I do believe that finding town is just as important as finding scum so that I can prevent mislynches and create my standard townie circle early on.

My thoughts on your question? I think it's garbage! ^-^


I don't remember asking you a god damn thing


Forced rage for getting a response.

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On October 19 2015 02:15 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat.



On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good.


I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here.

It's pretty exciting don't you think? My initial gut reads on Rels have led me to scum read him in the past 2 games where he was scum but I always ignored them because of what everyone else said. Now that my initial gut read is town that means I can hard town read him without a doubt. Hm...maybe a bit later down the line, but not for now.

Also, I do believe that finding town is just as important as finding scum so that I can prevent mislynches and create my standard townie circle early on.

My thoughts on your question? I think it's garbage! ^-^


I don't remember asking you a god damn thing


There was a question implied in it because you were addressing the statement to me than to everyone else so I responded.

But that's semantics which I enjoy debating anyway. But for the sake of everyone else who dislikes spam, I think I'll just end the conversation here.

-snip-


There was actually no question involved , the impression I got from your posting is you were more concerned with letting people know you think Rels is town than actually hunting scum. which is an incorrect priority.

like bf is weird and probably, scum , yeh scott could be scum. BUT FUCKING RELS IS TOWN HOLY COW.

maybe but idgaf

Rehashed to get mad because Moosy thought an implied question wasn’t a question? What is gained from it?

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On October 19 2015 02:19 KelsierSC wrote:
for an actual question, what's your opinion of the new guy, vonthin?

Asked question. Moosy answered. Obviously it wasn’t good enough for him but whatever, lets skip that for now.

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On October 19 2015 02:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:19 KelsierSC wrote:
for an actual question, what's your opinion of the new guy, vonthin?


null. I thing someone brought something up about him which I need to look back for.


well just to speed things up for you or jog your memory.
you asked him this. along with a lot of other stuff you typed.

On October 18 2015 09:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 09:52 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 18 2015 08:38 Vonthin wrote:
I don't understand this game lol, nothing like the few games I've played in or obs'd. So much shitposting to provoke people or to just cause chaos, I don't know why towns people would do this


And why do you think they're town?

As a continuation of this, what alignment do you think people are so far?


In his response he gave a big list of everyone as promised.

On October 18 2015 12:50 Vonthin wrote:
My reads so far:

Town:

Scott-No shitposts, most of his posts are good questions

Farah- Not much to read on but I've like what I've seen so far

Glowingbear-Besides some of the banter with Moosy his posts look pro town to me, raising good points and asking good questions especially to myself

Shining - See no problems with his filter cept he went with the funny opening for too long

Boxer- Not much for me to go on, asked Mooser to stop shitposting was nice but I feel like the limited time thing is an excuse I have seen scum use often. More of a null read but 2 lazy to make a category just for him since he is the only one besides the 4 who haven't posted

Scum

Mooser- Lots of shitposting and spamming posts without any substance. This post still bothers me, even if you are town and want to spam non stop you still should care about looking town which makes things easier for the rest of us

On October 18 2015 05:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:45 Vonthin wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:44 boxerfred wrote:
hey guys I'm here.

I plan to spam so hard you won't be able to read me.


Don't you want to be read as a townie though?

I don't particularly care tbh.


Fecalfeast - His first post was not a good way to start imo, second one doesn't tell me anything earlier though I do have some sympathy for the allergies.

Kelseir - His posts were all fluff and negative for the most part


Anyways its bed time


Most of this disagrees with your reads.

So asking for someones opinion on the entire game, having them disagree with you, call you scum.

I think "null someone said something" is a lame response. Unless you just asked the question without caring for the response


Big post saying everything he’s already said again. We get it, you don’t like Moosy’s response, does that make Moosy mafia or not? Why or why not? Should be the next post. I’m pretty sure you should have accomplished the idea that your proddin’ at him isn’t getting you more. So the logical step is to think about if he has malicious motives for not disclosing it to you. Simple.

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On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ??


i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions.

i don't see where you townread him?

Crap, he says the same thing again instead!

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On October 19 2015 02:53 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:50 scott31337 wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat.



On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good.


I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here.


This is a good point - but he mentioned nothing about LoneMeow which I would think he'd have a read on.

Eversince still has not posted, either.

I'll be on and off watching american football and playing here.


who is he?


Pointless post. Someone in the game. Obviously. Why make this post? You were prodding on scott before this if I remember correctly. Why not follow that here instead of asking about me?(if I am confusing Kelsier for another person here ignore the bit about talkin’ to scott.)

So this next post really has to be a conclusion on if Moosy is scum for not spillin’ the marbles right??!

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On October 19 2015 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ??


i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions.

i don't see where you townread him?

On October 18 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.

He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.

So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that.

To be completely serious, I do like to generate a little discussion in games. So far what conclusions have I drawn? Well, one is that boxerfred's post just now is super awkward and I don't really like it. Another is that you are pretty probably town for coming in with a townie mindset and without addressing the possibility of what Mafia would do. So you are a town read and boxerfred is a scum read. The other dude is a town lean and GB is a null right now.

The response is adequate enough lol. I have him down as a null from my town read earlier. Don't know why you have problems with it.


oh right i just didn't see his name.

My issue is you asked him a pretty big question, literally "what is your opinion on everyone so far" clearly because you want to develop a read on the guy. Then he makes his big list post, which totally disagrees with a lot of your reads, calls you scum in it.
And rather than actually follow up or make any specific noise , i have to ask you about him and you respond just like "yeh he's null i guess but some guy said something else i should check"

for someone who is so keen on "getting a town circle" and how important that is to you it doesn't fit at all and to me it looks like you were just spamming to spam and not actually caring.

What?! It’s not?! Instead we just get a rehashing of the same stuff again. Yeh friend, we got it, you don’t like his response!
Surely this next post will be it!

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On October 19 2015 03:02 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ??


i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions.

i don't see where you townread him?

On October 18 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.

He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.

So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that.

To be completely serious, I do like to generate a little discussion in games. So far what conclusions have I drawn? Well, one is that boxerfred's post just now is super awkward and I don't really like it. Another is that you are pretty probably town for coming in with a townie mindset and without addressing the possibility of what Mafia would do. So you are a town read and boxerfred is a scum read. The other dude is a town lean and GB is a null right now.

The response is adequate enough lol. I have him down as a null from my town read earlier. Don't know why you have problems with it.


oh right i just didn't see his name.

My issue is you asked him a pretty big question, literally "what is your opinion on everyone so far" clearly because you want to develop a read on the guy. Then he makes his big list post, which totally disagrees with a lot of your reads, calls you scum in it.
And rather than actually follow up or make any specific noise , i have to ask you about him and you respond just like "yeh he's null i guess but some guy said something else i should check"

for someone who is so keen on "getting a town circle" and how important that is to you it doesn't fit at all and to me it looks like you were just spamming to spam and not actually caring.

huh? kSC, you do know that I'm not the type to exactly splurge everything that's on my mind? I clearly recall in my last game where I said something like that. But then again, you were scum there so perhaps you didn't make the effort to read it. mmm...I keep my developing reads to myself unless I'm trying to provoke a reaction or I'm certain about something.


you splurge pretty much everything else.

So just to have your story down, you asked a guy to give his entire list of reads, when he did and they didn't line up with anything you had, rather than say anything you just moved on, said "eh he's null i guess I will check out what that other guy said"

Rehashed like four times and you still don’t “have his story down”? Are you being for real right now?

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On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello?


so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it?


Random prod that he already knows he’s not going to get more information from.

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On October 19 2015 03:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:02 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ??


i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions.

i don't see where you townread him?

On October 18 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.

He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.

So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that.

To be completely serious, I do like to generate a little discussion in games. So far what conclusions have I drawn? Well, one is that boxerfred's post just now is super awkward and I don't really like it. Another is that you are pretty probably town for coming in with a townie mindset and without addressing the possibility of what Mafia would do. So you are a town read and boxerfred is a scum read. The other dude is a town lean and GB is a null right now.

The response is adequate enough lol. I have him down as a null from my town read earlier. Don't know why you have problems with it.


oh right i just didn't see his name.

My issue is you asked him a pretty big question, literally "what is your opinion on everyone so far" clearly because you want to develop a read on the guy. Then he makes his big list post, which totally disagrees with a lot of your reads, calls you scum in it.
And rather than actually follow up or make any specific noise , i have to ask you about him and you respond just like "yeh he's null i guess but some guy said something else i should check"

for someone who is so keen on "getting a town circle" and how important that is to you it doesn't fit at all and to me it looks like you were just spamming to spam and not actually caring.

huh? kSC, you do know that I'm not the type to exactly splurge everything that's on my mind? I clearly recall in my last game where I said something like that. But then again, you were scum there so perhaps you didn't make the effort to read it. mmm...I keep my developing reads to myself unless I'm trying to provoke a reaction or I'm certain about something.


you splurge pretty much everything else.

So just to have your story down, you asked a guy to give his entire list of reads, when he did and they didn't line up with anything you had, rather than say anything you just moved on, said "eh he's null i guess I will check out what that other guy said"

I shared some thoughts, other people shared some thoughts, I realized Vonthin didn't really extrapolate on most of the people that posted so I asked him for his thoughts on people. What he said didn't line up with most of what I think but it might just be a case of newbie so I dropped him to a null in my mind, and am now checking the thread in between Splegg queues. Any other questions?


nah i got what I needed.



What?! All this and you don’t even give us the juicy part where you develop a read on him?

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On October 19 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello?


so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it?


This line of questioning is kind of dumb kSC. Like lol I'm doing other things right now but do you want me to go back and look through Vonthin again at your command? I'm checking in to respond to questions right now but smh.


well to be honest the list is more important to you than anyone since you were the person who asked for it.
I shouldn't have to command you to do it.

Oh wait! There’s more, almost like he wants to drag this out for as long as possible for no reason or somethin’!

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On October 19 2015 03:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello?


so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it?


This line of questioning is kind of dumb kSC. Like lol I'm doing other things right now but do you want me to go back and look through Vonthin again at your command? I'm checking in to respond to questions right now but smh.


well to be honest the list is more important to you than anyone since you were the person who asked for it.
I shouldn't have to command you to do it.

So you're expecting me to do something that I don't care to at the moment? I'm sorry but TL isn't more important to me than winning games of Splegg.


I mean he did it 14 hours ago I thought you might have given it more than a cursory glance. considering you asked him for it to start with.
when you get a moment then i will await your thoughts I don't want to stop you doing whatever it is you are doing.


What new is said in this post over the last 1600 of them? Same words, but at least he’ll be polite and wait. Even though he’s actually just being passive aggressive.

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On October 19 2015 03:20 KelsierSC wrote:
just to speed this along

Farah is saying "you shouldn't have strong scum reads based on no interaction

not "you should have no scum reads"

moosy disagrees with you Farah

in general as a new who hasn't played in lots of games with moosy or anyone using meta from past games wont help you well.

Reiterates Farah point. Pointless game advice. We do happen to have coaches this game for giving that.

This is just too much.

[b]##vote: KelsierSC


I don't really know you that well and you have never seen me play town so let me just explain what is happening as you seem to be having a lot of trouble with a coherent thought.

I was asking moosy questions because I felt his response was inadequate and I was pushing him for it. His play didn't make sense to me and I wanted him to answer for it. I believe you said this

Big post saying everything he’s already said again. We get it, you don’t like Moosy’s response, does that make Moosy mafia or not? Why or why not? Should be the next post. I’m pretty sure you should have accomplished the idea that your proddin’ at him isn’t getting you more. So the logical step is to think about if he has malicious motives for not disclosing it to you. Simple.


The post you are referencing there is actually the first time I brought this issue up so I don't really see how this says "everything i've already said again".

I wanted moosy to give more. I am still waiting on him to give more. I would counter and ask how questioning moosy and forcing him to give more on vonthin is in anyway different to you forcing FF to give more on his reads.

moving on, I believe you also made points about "forced rage" or something like that, the "i don't remember asking you a god damn thing" is a movie quote. the capitalisation in the other post is a paraphrase of moosy's post. In either case you haven't explained how this rage is forced or even if it really exists. but i suppose it's a nice buzzword to throw in.

I believe next you called me mafia for traffic copping but not traffic copping. Simply put farah and moosy were not understanding points and I clairified it to move things along, I then explained to Farah why using meta on someone you have never played with is a bad idea. ok maybe he has a coach who gave him this advice, maybe not. I feel it needed to be said. is my advice bad? why does this make me mafia?

so to sum up. your push on me comes down to you thinking I "faked rage", that I pushed on moosy too much, and I clarified a situation and gave some advice to a newbie. Apparently this is

"JUST TOO MUCH" and so you feel you have to vote me.

Interesting.

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just to dot the i's , I believe you also found me scummy for asking scott a question. I am asking him to clarify who he is talking about. I would be happy to know why this makes me scummy.

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