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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:16 GMT
#1715
On October 01 2015 01:12 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 01:08 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 01:05 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:57 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:56 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:48 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

???

then what is this gb?


This is me agreeing with marv's argument on you?


so you're tacitly supporting a lynch on me over your scumread cause why?


Because it makes sense.

I mean, you COULD be mafia after all. I'm not townreading you after what Marv brought. I still prefer truffle's lynch. I just can't argue more than I did anymore. And I'm getting used to be very wrong. I'm not going to sacrifice my trip to repeat the same arguments to people that won't listen to me


no i can't

his case still is just that i changed my read, which does not make someone mafia...he also didn't like that i called his push on me asinine but i explained that more than adequately

so you don't care if truffle gets lynched or not? because you could be wrong? but you'd push marv when i flip town for trying to divert the lynch from truffle? that sounds like a pretty strong scumread to me...yet you're not yelling your bloody head off...because you could be wrong?

and your solution is to push to lynch an associative read over something you're so uncertain of you won't push it hard yourself...even for you this is very nonsensical

you know that damdred gets angry as town. why did you say he didn't?


I know he gets mopy as town, the only exception he got angry was that game where he had serious IRL issues.

So that's it.

I'm not yelling my head off because I don't care. I want truffle dead because I think he is Mafia. I want Damdred dead because I think he is Mafia. Those are the two I want dead. NOBODY ELSE is willing to discuss them with me, so I don't care. Rayn is completely ignoring my posts, which is boring as hell.

So yeah, I want truffle lynched but I won't put effort on it at all


case on truffle please

i don't know if you've been privy to damdred's other growls but i do know that i've told you how to read him before and you know that this isn't a scum tell at all for him. so why is he scum?


Truffle is scum because he came try harding just to look good because his big load of questions didn't have any follow up nor it had any conclusions that led him into reads in this game. It's getting close to deadline and we don't know what his reads are.

Damdred is scum for all his bait thing. He made it sound like he had a plan but he failed to explain what it was all about, and he failed to show us what reads he got from it, and yet we don't see Damdred actively trying to solve the game. He's just there, commenting stuff, barely existing.


- the no reads i'll accept...not getting something out of a question can happen with town, as well

- damdred did get reads out of his bait thing so i'm not sure what you're on about. he's also been actively trying to solve the game


Sorry, I don't see it in Damdred's filter. All I see is lack of interest and I never saw him answering me.

The problem with truffle is that he asked questions but never had follow up on them. If you ask a question on something it's because you found sometbing suspicious, mostly. I'm not going to quote again the weird question he made to Damdred in the beginning of the game


-squints at- i don't agree that it makes truffle scum but i can see why you would. i personally find nothing that strange about not asking follow-up questions when you got nothing alignment indicative from the first
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:20 GMT
#1717
On October 01 2015 01:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 01:12 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But let's lynch GB now when before we could have lynched scott, Rels or fuck... even marv!!!


yes...i didn't like GBs posts this morning after those three scumreads

except what you are doing now is questioning him for the same exact thing he has been yelling all game long. And which you didn't have any intention to dig further into above other people (like marv/me). Instead you ended up in a conclusion that marv is mafia and i am fishy (at certain point - when, again, GB was saying THE EXACT SAME STUFF HE IS SAYING HERE).

mmm... yeah no.


are you really this stupid?

like you're literally saying here that because i find things suspicious when i WAS NOT TOWNREADING GB FOR THEM earlier, i can't have other people i thought were more likely to be scum for other reasons?

and that if i decide they could be town after all i can't question GB about things he's done that prevented me from townreading him in the first place?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:21 GMT
#1720
i already fucking said that his lack of reaction this morning when he's generally reactive was giving me bad vibes...that clearly isn't something that "happened before" my reads last night

i want to say you're not this stupid but i'm not sure >< you can't see this? really?!
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:24 GMT
#1727
On October 01 2015 01:21 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
dododo

recreating town circles

-gathers truffle, shining and damdy into the fold- ^^

brain trust! \o/

not lynching moosy, rayn or sl today...i think i'll add cool here...he smells of newbie newness

ye i'm being female...so sue me

i think i actually want to lynch into rels, marv and scott

on whims, magic, and gut feels


While I was reading on my phone - you had another post of who you want to lynch - and I was not on it anymore (I'm on the west coast US so I get up later than you guys)

Could you expand on this for me? Did others become scummier?

All through you/rayn/marv/etc - I was looking for who would come to defend you and/or not post. You and rels noted my presence, but that's because of the above - I wasn't going to fire up the laptop on the bus.
I noted Moosy defends you and thinks you are town now
Trfel didn't post - but I'm thinking he's not on the same team as you
LS defends you later.
Damdred and CoolTLName did not post either.

I was thinking, if you are mafia - and the votes so close - in theory they would defend right? But they may have stayed on the sidelines. I didn't really come up with much here.

I think you're still scummier then Trfel though.

LS was in the null pile and did more play by play uselessness - moves to the scummier pile.

I'm pretty confident Shining is town and he would be high up there.

Rels gets a light townlean.

I still think GB is town but he's getting into his alcohol and crack stash again.


i don't don't want to lynch you if that makes you feel any better xP

more seriously gb and rayn are itching at me more and the nullish people i could kinda care less about presently
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:26 GMT
#1730
meh i'm gonna step away

have fun
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:30 GMT
#1734
okay so in all reality, before i step away

i'm not lynching damdred, marv, truffle or shining today for any reason

so even those of you i'm leaning town on, if you're the alternative to me or truffle (or any of the other three, though i don't see those lynches taking place) i will yolo vote you

fair warning
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:32 GMT
#1736
On October 01 2015 01:28 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 01:08 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 01:05 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:57 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:56 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:48 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

???

then what is this gb?


This is me agreeing with marv's argument on you?


so you're tacitly supporting a lynch on me over your scumread cause why?


Because it makes sense.

I mean, you COULD be mafia after all. I'm not townreading you after what Marv brought. I still prefer truffle's lynch. I just can't argue more than I did anymore. And I'm getting used to be very wrong. I'm not going to sacrifice my trip to repeat the same arguments to people that won't listen to me


no i can't

his case still is just that i changed my read, which does not make someone mafia...he also didn't like that i called his push on me asinine but i explained that more than adequately

so you don't care if truffle gets lynched or not? because you could be wrong? but you'd push marv when i flip town for trying to divert the lynch from truffle? that sounds like a pretty strong scumread to me...yet you're not yelling your bloody head off...because you could be wrong?

and your solution is to push to lynch an associative read over something you're so uncertain of you won't push it hard yourself...even for you this is very nonsensical

you know that damdred gets angry as town. why did you say he didn't?


I know he gets mopy as town, the only exception he got angry was that game where he had serious IRL issues.

So that's it.

I'm not yelling my head off because I don't care. I want truffle dead because I think he is Mafia. I want Damdred dead because I think he is Mafia. Those are the two I want dead. NOBODY ELSE is willing to discuss them with me, so I don't care. Rayn is completely ignoring my posts, which is boring as hell.

So yeah, I want truffle lynched but I won't put effort on it at all


case on truffle please

i don't know if you've been privy to damdred's other growls but i do know that i've told you how to read him before and you know that this isn't a scum tell at all for him. so why is he scum?


Truffle is scum because he came try harding just to look good because his big load of questions didn't have any follow up nor it had any conclusions that led him into reads in this game. It's getting close to deadline and we don't know what his reads are.

Damdred is scum for all his bait thing. He made it sound like he had a plan but he failed to explain what it was all about, and he failed to show us what reads he got from it, and yet we don't see Damdred actively trying to solve the game. He's just there, commenting stuff, barely existing.


- the no reads i'll accept...not getting something out of a question can happen with town, as well

- damdred did get reads out of his bait thing so i'm not sure what you're on about. he's also been actively trying to solve the game


It's not "not getting something out of a question"

It's the three pages of filter of questions with getting nothing out of them.


let gb defend himself and his reads, scott

i already acknowledge that truffle's lack of reads are a valid reason to scumread him. i still think he's town cause i have a nose for these things when it comes to him, but that's not what gb said. he was referring specifically to the follow-up on the question to damdred
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:33 GMT
#1737
On October 01 2015 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
there is actually very little reasons for reading Trfel town.


you're right and i still do lol ><

it's tonal and it's because even if he isn't producing amazing cases or some such he's poking at things that i'd expect him to poke at

i don't expect people to agree with me

doesn't mean i'll lynch him
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:34 GMT
#1739
On September 30 2015 12:50 Trfel wrote:
Someone please talk to me about sicklucker...

Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 12:36 sicklucker wrote:
On September 30 2015 12:24 Trfel wrote:
On September 30 2015 12:21 sicklucker wrote:
As for trefl I feel like he was trying to deflect on me when I entered the thread after ignoring me early so I dont think hes a bad lynch. Feel like hes trying to get a lynch on me no now that hes under presure. If thats true your a fool. but trefl is a strong town player i think scotts a better lynch
So I'm scum for being suspicious of you now, and not earlier, for posts that you made after I left, and only saw in the past two hours or so?

And then you insult my play, and then call me a strong town player? You can't have it both ways.


i also complimented you! well yesterday you ignored me it was only after you had 4 votes on you that you seemed interested in anything I had to say or have said.
This feels sort of apologetic, almost a little scared of me? Sicklucker should never be scared of me, ever...
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 12:41 sicklucker wrote:
Dear trefel dont try to spin this

On September 29 2015 09:18 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 09:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 29 2015 09:11 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 09:08 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 09:05 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 09:01 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:56 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

lol silence mortal! you do not see with the eyes of the enlightened!

mmm...what makes you think Trfel is town so far?


amazingness and wizardry

namely, the post he thinks he caught me with lol apparently assuming that i don't know what he's doing and would react like some sort of ignorant buffoon who has never seen his play before ^^
I don't understand what you're saying here at all...

I'm going to reread the thread now. This is getting unbearable.


then let me make this simple for you

you often lead (when you have the time) with a post that you think makes you look scummy...in part because of GB's coaching (thus the reference to acolyte)

i posted while waiting to see if anyone would take the bait, you're right. but your little theory falls apart because you assume that i'd for some god-awful reason not link this to the other myriad times you did it and at worst null read you for it

-flicks- now go be productive and actually find scum
I expected you to largely ignore my opening few posts? (unless you cared to discuss musical taste)

My read on you is based on entirely different reasons? I actually had no clue you posed a ....

And MoosyDoosy, I haven't started my reread yet. I'm slow

I'm asking for initial thoughts on your first read. Just as a basis for how your reads shift post-reread. So just list people who you are going to look specifically at during your re-read.
Read my filter, I've posted basically all of my thoughts (even if it's not really explained). I'm going to be specifically looking at everyone who has posted, with the possible exception of sicklucker.

Hope that helps you!


Here you specifically state you are not trying to read me lolz


On September 30 2015 11:03 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 10:48 sicklucker wrote:
As of now i would vote j roc that opening was so bad as he missed two points in the thread in his very small opening.

Not reading the thread = mafia. I should know I role mafa alot
Does anyone else want to lynch sicklucker?


1 hour ago (when your the leading wagon) out of no where you bring my name up almost as if your seeing if there is any interest in lynching me and not you.

THESE ARE YOUR ONLY MENTIOINS OF ME IN YOUR FILTER BEFORE THAT. You cant make up lies like "well i was not in the thread" you had 30 some hours lol
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 12:44 sicklucker wrote:
On September 30 2015 12:24 Trfel wrote:
On September 30 2015 12:21 sicklucker wrote:
As for trefl I feel like he was trying to deflect on me when I entered the thread after ignoring me early so I dont think hes a bad lynch. Feel like hes trying to get a lynch on me no now that hes under presure. If thats true your a fool. but trefl is a strong town player i think scotts a better lynch
So I'm scum for being suspicious of you now, and not earlier, for posts that you made after I left, and only saw in the past two hours or so?

And then you insult my play, and then call me a strong town player? You can't have it both ways.


tref is lying here guys... thoughts?
And this progression simply doesn't make sense. Argument aside.

Here is his progression:

Semi-friendly worded clarification
Don't try to spin things, depending on how you answer this I might vote for you
Trfel is lying, everyone please talk about this (before he answers)

Which is a completely nonsensical progression. Town should never, ever act like this.

As for the argument itself, I had no opinion of sicklucker last night. I have an opinion of sicklucker now because he did scummy things in between last night, when I stopped reading the thread, and tonight, when I have been reading the thread again. Which is exactly what I stated in my previous post. He chooses to say that I was in the thread and that I was lying for no reason at all? When talking politely to me a few minutes before?

I just don't see any town thought process in this at all.


this is pretty classic town!truffle, tbh
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:37 GMT
#1741
On October 01 2015 01:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 01:33 rsoultin wrote:
it's tonal and it's because even if he isn't producing amazing cases or some such he's poking at things that i'd expect him to poke at

i don't expect people to agree with me

well you/trfel/damdred "tone read club" fell apart a couple of games ago so i don't trust shit about what any of you say on each other tonewise regardless of any of your affiliation.


lol yes damdred can be wrong on me you're right

he never has on an early townread on me, note he was suspicious of both truffle and myself right out the gate in the game you're referring to

but as with anything this could be the one exception to the rule! \o/

and as for me, i hard townread townies i'm "supposed" to know well as scum all the time and very rarely scumread them...in fact i can't think of an instance where i ever have scumread my pocket toneread players as scum unless they were scum, too

but again

this could be that one exception

keep thinking it
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:38 GMT
#1743
On October 01 2015 01:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the argument was dumb in both ways.


oh sure

it's still classic town truffle though

no one said i thought the argument

that i broke up

wasn't dumb
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:40 GMT
#1746
On October 01 2015 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like it's really fucking easy to tell what sicklucker was trying to say.
it's really fucking easy to tell he is not trying to make a read out of nowhere.


i'd argue that it's equally easy to tell where truffle was coming from, here...namely getting upset at being called bad and keying in on the inconsistency

you of all people should know that doesn't make someone scum >>

but for me it's mostly the entire approach tbh and not the specific read, though yes, truffle is huge on wording and not great with the subjective parts of this game. he doesn't even value them most of the time
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:42 GMT
#1747
On October 01 2015 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 01:37 rsoultin wrote:
but as with anything this could be the one exception to the rule! \o/

didn't you just end up with "Trfel is mafia" on N1 when you got shot?
I would dare to say the last game you played with Trfel. He was town.


oh right :/ yeah i was wrong on him there lol >< i was town though

like i said i think he's town if people don't believe me that's fine. my point was when i'm scum i tend to townread people i'm supposed to be good at reading to avoid the reactions and tunnels and headaches -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:43 GMT
#1750
On October 01 2015 01:39 marvellosity wrote:
my lead-up to deadline is gonna be busy as usual. hopefully you guys can be pretty cool.


you should stop voting for me

that would be cool

you really want to lynch a town rsoul? i'm not as valuable as a town marv (normally) or a town rayn (sometimes) or a town several other people but i'm still pretty fucking valuable to lynch when you're doubting -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:44 GMT
#1751
On October 01 2015 01:42 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, role PMs aside, why can't I be mafia with you?


cause i'm not mafia?

and i'd probably be bussing you here xP let's be honest

i'm more likely to late game than you are
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:46 GMT
#1753
scum rsoul worries that hard townreading scum truffles and scum damdreds will get scum rsoul lynched when they flip scum

that at least i've been fairly consistent on. i'd sow doubt in there somewhere if we were scum together out of late game considerations
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:46 GMT
#1755
On October 01 2015 01:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 01:43 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not as valuable as a town rayn (sometimes)

still voting mafia in over 60% of the games this year D1.


so? you saying i'm not valuable?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:46 GMT
#1756
On October 01 2015 01:46 rsoultin wrote:
scum rsoul worries that hard townreading scum truffles and scum damdreds will get scum rsoul lynched when they flip scum

that at least i've been fairly consistent on. i'd sow doubt in there somewhere if we were scum together out of late game considerations

"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:47 GMT
#1758
On October 01 2015 01:46 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 01:44 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 01:42 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, role PMs aside, why can't I be mafia with you?


cause i'm not mafia?

and i'd probably be bussing you here xP let's be honest

i'm more likely to late game than you are
True, however you called me town many times before the wagon on you started. I think that if you had attempted to bus me you would die.

Do you have any other reasons? Or any reasons why the above is wrong?


also why does this matter? this is only relevant if we're both scum @.@ since i'm not and you should at least be pretending not to be if i'm wrong on you, i don't get this
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On October 01 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 01 2015 01:46 rsoultin wrote:
scum rsoul worries that hard townreading scum truffles and scum damdreds will get scum rsoul lynched when they flip scum

not true tbh.


completely true tbh

prove it wrong because you can't
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