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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 01 2015 15:30 GMT
#2584
i want to lynch Trfel.

i don't believe he can believe what he is saying.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 01 2015 15:54 GMT
#2588
On October 02 2015 00:35 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:02 Trfel wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
post 1 suggests that my entire play could come from mafia

post 2 Trfel backtracks and says it's referring to a tiny portion at the start?

it really makes no sense at all to me
There was a specific part of your play where you said "I never do this as mafia". I'm saying that there is absolutely no reason why you couldn't, it would be easy to do.

As for the rest of your play, you are capable of a high filter length as mafia. I see no reason why you couldn't produce an extremely high filter length in a really spammy game, if you really wanted to. If you're referring to thread involvement, I don't see you being involved to the point where you can't be mafia.

the fact you're characterising my play by filter length is pretty scummy tbh.
I don't think you want to know what I have to say about your play other than filter length.....

You do realize that you are my top townread, right?

i didn't.

i guess i'm going mad.

oh well.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 01 2015 23:40 GMT
#2851
i appear to have died.

gg
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-07 09:01:26
October 07 2015 09:00 GMT
#5183
gg wp town

GB: your post about listening to others and what have you especially applies to you. You tunnelled coolTLname to the lynch based on nothing and I told you why Damdred was 100% town and you just kept calling him mafia. It was really dull.

Day 1 The Shining was the classic of example of free hard townreads on a player for nothing.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-07 10:49:25
October 07 2015 10:46 GMT
#5186
no, the Shining townreads were quite different. My Damdred read was "he would 100% never do this as mafia, therefore he is 100% town"

none of the reads on Shining were like that.

edit: my general point was that you are actually quite obstinate yourself :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 07 2015 12:22 GMT
#5206
I just couldn't believe rsoultin's famous "tone reading" could mean that she wasn't reading me as obvious town. It was confusing.

Also the Shining stuff is kinda indicative of my decreased confidence in my own mafiareads in the last ~6 months (due to laziness/busyness/whatever).

It came to mind I'd have pushed that as a shenanny lynch much harder in times gone by and probably got it, instead of frowning and giving up.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 07 2015 13:17 GMT
#5237
the bromance is real
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 07 2015 14:22 GMT
#5254
rsoultin, for future reference, if i have my tunnel on, the way you approached my push was basically the worst way of getting me to retract my (incorrect) scumread.

repeating omgus over and over and trivialising what i said to one piece of information (the read change) wasn't good. Normally when I'm tunnelled on someone I can get off it by their defence, but on this occasion it was only your sustained posting later on d1 that got me to doubt my read and not want to lynch you at the end.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 07 2015 16:08 GMT
#5278
rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 07 2015 16:11 GMT
#5281
On October 08 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia.

I take a step forward and just quit.

that's not a step forward, that's shooting yourself in the foot.

If I can learn to sit back a bit (after a very long time always playing very intense and at a top level) so can you :>
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 07 2015 16:21 GMT
#5287
On October 08 2015 01:14 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 01:11 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia.

I take a step forward and just quit.

that's not a step forward, that's shooting yourself in the foot.

If I can learn to sit back a bit (after a very long time always playing very intense and at a top level) so can you :>

The thing is while rayn absolutely should do that you absolutely should not :p

The problem is I am very busy, I'm particularly active outside of work at the moment, weekends are usually a write-off, etc etc.

The funny thing is that on many occasions I've avoided the thread as town and thought to myself "god i'm being scummy". When I do decide to post (work is good for that) I'm very involved, but outside of work, in the times I have genuine downtime to just sit down, a lot of the time I don't want to think as much about mafia as I need to.

So... laziness.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 07 2015 16:23 GMT
#5290
On October 08 2015 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv & JAT, i really did that when i got back. I got lynched for it.
I like winning, i hate losing. People would not listen to me even after i got lynched.
What am i supposed to do?

You had a fantastic run of games this summer or so where you pretty much reigned supreme for quite a while.

There are always rough patches.

Even where I was playing my hardest/best, there were still many games I was furious, or I almost get lynched, or everything goes wrong (see Personality)

shit happens bro
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 07 2015 16:24 GMT
#5292
no-one pities you because you play like a tool, dear.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 07 2015 16:26 GMT
#5296
On October 08 2015 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:11 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia.

I take a step forward and just quit.

that's not a step forward, that's shooting yourself in the foot.

If I can learn to sit back a bit (after a very long time always playing very intense and at a top level) so can you :>

The thing is while rayn absolutely should do that you absolutely should not :p

The problem is I am very busy, I'm particularly active outside of work at the moment, weekends are usually a write-off, etc etc.

that's not a problem. you are never lynched because of it when you are town.
you have the charisma and writing skills to actually convince people to not lynch you even if they think you are mafia.

I'm not talking about in terms of getting lynched. It's clear lynching me as town is nearly impossible.

I mean in terms of game-solving, the thought it requires, the going back and checking/looking at stuff, missing and being unable to direct the flow of the game for long periods, etc etc
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 07 2015 16:30 GMT
#5299
On October 08 2015 01:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:11 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia.

I take a step forward and just quit.

that's not a step forward, that's shooting yourself in the foot.

If I can learn to sit back a bit (after a very long time always playing very intense and at a top level) so can you :>

The thing is while rayn absolutely should do that you absolutely should not :p

The problem is I am very busy, I'm particularly active outside of work at the moment, weekends are usually a write-off, etc etc.

that's not a problem. you are never lynched because of it when you are town.
you have the charisma and writing skills to actually convince people to not lynch you even if they think you are mafia.

Except when he isn't around. It almost happened :/

I've actually had more close shaves than I care to remember in this 3 year streak I'm on.

Palmar (as town) came within about a vote of getting me lynched in a large game quite a long time ago.
Had to claim cop to avoid a lynch in some game.
Almost got lynched by you in that game and got v lucky with chess timings.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 07 2015 16:31 GMT
#5301
On October 08 2015 01:26 Onegu wrote:
Alright marv just for you the next game we play together I will play serious and get my game face on.

<3 I'm only teasing (ish).

:p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-07 16:36:32
October 07 2015 16:35 GMT
#5305
On October 08 2015 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 01:26 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:11 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia.

I take a step forward and just quit.

that's not a step forward, that's shooting yourself in the foot.

If I can learn to sit back a bit (after a very long time always playing very intense and at a top level) so can you :>

The thing is while rayn absolutely should do that you absolutely should not :p

The problem is I am very busy, I'm particularly active outside of work at the moment, weekends are usually a write-off, etc etc.

that's not a problem. you are never lynched because of it when you are town.
you have the charisma and writing skills to actually convince people to not lynch you even if they think you are mafia.

I'm not talking about in terms of getting lynched. It's clear lynching me as town is nearly impossible.

I mean in terms of game-solving, the thought it requires, the going back and checking/looking at stuff, missing and being unable to direct the flow of the game for long periods, etc etc

mmm okay. but like... when you are not considered town noone will listen to you (unless you yell it to their faces).
except for you. you are listened to, always.

For example take Titanic VII or the game where Koshi mindlessly tunneled me and lynched me ove Onegu who was scum. I was so fucking close to throw that game for reals..... I hate that shit. I was right on everything (when it mattered) but he decided to call me mafia all game long.

idk... it's one thing to miss important stuff, but it's another thing for the town to miss ALL important stuff and cover it with dumbass meta shit. And that's what has happened lately.

Mafia by nature of the game is full of flawed, egotistical individuals (just to be clear, i'm not saying anyone who plays mafia is more flawed than anyone who doesn't :p) who make mistakes. Of course this doesn't stop me ranting about things that annoy me (unexplained firm townread meta) but meh, it is what it is, and when that fad passes, an equally dumb one will probably take its place.

Mafia is very much a game of imperfection and you're trying to approach it from an idealistic standpoint that the nature of the game isn't suited to

edit: yes, it's also very nice to have everyone listen to you by default somehow.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 07 2015 16:41 GMT
#5308
Townies were not stupid, or the circumstances of the game were that you were able to read townie stupidity as townie stupidty and not mafia stupidity, you happened to be in a rich vein of form, or however many other factors.

Like I said before there will always be highs and lows.

Enjoy the highs, and then just ride out the lows. Quitting because everyone is being shit just makes you a pussy. Don't be a pussy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 07 2015 16:44 GMT
#5310
hahahaha. that was great.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 07 2015 16:54 GMT
#5314
On October 08 2015 01:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not quitting because i am a pussy.
I ma quitting because i don't enjoy playing with people who don't play.

I am playing fairly well as either alignment when people play (like XXX), and while i heavily disagree with the outcome of that game because it was for shit reasons, i agree with it. Like i should prolly killed other people or played better, or me and JAT should both played better on D1. But that game was actually a GAME, other games have felt like shit (in a sense that it's just -- boring) lately. deconduo game was good imo, except i didn't really get to play it because of the shit moosy pulled off. but it was a good game, for sure.

There will always be people who don't play too.

That's not a new thing. Maybe some games will have more inactivity or shitness than others, that will always be the case.

There's definitely a group of newer players who all play pretty hard though (Fidei, Rels etc, all these players I know next to nothing about :p)

Anyway I'm not going to carry on trying to convince you of anything. I just think you're being silly.

I would like you to continue playing. With me. You enhance my experience. Stop being selfish :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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